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Sketchable, Stretchable Circuits (acs.org)

Posted by Soulskill on from the pen-is-mightier-than-the-pcb dept.

JMarshall writes: A new, elastic silver ink allows stretchy circuits to be drawn using a regular pen. Unlike previous inks, which have been made with silver nanoparticles and are prone to clog pens over time, this ink begins as a silver salt mixed with adhesive rubber (abstract). After writing, the ink is brushed with a formaldehyde and sodium hydroxide solution that reduces the silver ions to conductive silver nanoparticles. Researchers strung 14 LED lights together using the ink. The lights stayed lit even through stretching and bending the rubber sheet the circuit was drawn on.

34 comments

  1. Pencil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Doesn't your standard graphite pencil do this?

    1. Re:Pencil by diamondmagic · · Score: 2

      Graphite is less conductive than silver.

      If you're looking to "draw" a resistor, then graphite might be a good choice.

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    2. Re:Pencil by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      If you're looking to "draw" a resistor, then graphite might be a good choice.
      In Apollo 13, I believe, one uses a pencil and a pice of paper and fills the surface of the paper with graphite and then rolls it, giving it to his partner and says: "this, I believe, is a resistor". It was needed for some equipment that has failed before.

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    3. Re:Pencil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Less conductive sure, but a heck of a lot cheaper.

    4. Re:Pencil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not using a pen at all and leaving the page blank is even cheaper. That doesn't mean that it works for its intended purpose.

    5. Re:Pencil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you show us how you can do it with your standard graphite pencil, then we'll talk.

  2. Why? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    Why do they keep experimenting with silver? Isn't it too expensive to ever be viable in commercial manufacturing?

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not for special projects.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..what? Silver is super cheap and it's been used for decades in RF. Silver-plated brass waveguides, silver-plated boards and silver-plated aluminum enclosures.

    3. Re:Why? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Silver is a consumable commodity. By some estimates, nearly half the silver ever mined since ancient times is gone. When silver supplies start running low, prices will go up substantially. But not anytime soon.

    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do all the preppers hoard Silver then? There's even a company seilling Ron Paul silver coins????

    5. Re: Why? by WarJolt · · Score: 1

      It's difficult to make an ink that comes close to the conductivity of copper used in pcbs. It's even more difficult to make it stretch. Silver is a great conductor. We use gold because it doesn't corrode, but it sounds like silver has some desired properties that would be difficult to reproduce with another metal.

    6. Re: Why? by WarJolt · · Score: 1

      Doesn't take much silver to make an electrical connection.

    7. Re: Why? by WarJolt · · Score: 2

      Silver is an element. If you recycle your electronics it can be recovered. when it becomes scarce enough to care we'll just melt down our trash and get the precious metals out of it.

    8. Re:Why? by solidraven · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Screen printed silver is the main conductor for cheap printed electronics... Two barely trained operators with a small machine can run a batch of a few hundred thousand pieces within a week with screen/stencil printing equipment. So a bucket of silver paste, some plastic sheets, and a moderately clean space will do. In the meanwhile copper might look cheaper at first glance, but you need to consider the processing cost as well. When considering a single sided circuit with the same volume you'll need at least a few you need hundred square meters of photoresist, large quantities of obnoxious chemicals (degrease, developer, etchant, stripper, plating solutions or OSP), way more space for the lines (degrease, roll laminate photoresist, illuminate, remove protective foil, develop, etch, strip, OSP immersion/spray or plating), not to mention the cost of the water treatment plant assuming you're not running it in China where you can just dump it into the river I suppose. For assembly the circuit boards still have an advantage: solder paste is a lot more forgiving than conductive adhesives. Needless to say, PCBs are well on their way out for certain applications! Obviously copper still has a few major advantages, it's a great heatsink, mechanically more forgiving, able to carry great currents easily, and is very easy to assemble components on. But think about medium volume RFID, keyboards, signs, etc. and you'll usually end up with screen printed silver paste as most economical solution for medium to lower-end high volume manufacturing. For extremely high volumes you could consider aluminium as conductor in more than a few cases, but lets not get into those pesky details!

    9. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm. I think that you answered yourself on that one.

    10. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mass production isn't the only thing that happens in the world.

      I work in development and often order 5-10 pieces to test new designs before they go to production.
      These days you can get 2 layer prototype boards in a day or two, but if I could just print out the PCB and have it directly it would be worth to pay extra for it.
      Since the boards often are gold plated anyway I don't see how using silver in the ink would make it more expensive than real boards.

    11. Re:Why? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      CNC PCB mill.

    12. Re:Why? by solidraven · · Score: 1

      You might want to look into the machines LPKF is selling these days. Additionally two days is slow, we've gone from initial design to finished device in less than 8 hours at work. I should probably point out that's with some help of a LDI system and the fact we're running our own in-house prototyping lines. Most high-end board houses can also do same day delivery if the laminate isn't too complex and you're willing to dish out the money for it. (Be prepared to cough up a couple of thousand euro for a single set of boards if you do that.)

  3. Haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On Slashdot
    Stream of tranquil water
    In the Springtime

    1. Re:Haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bird is true

  4. Re:Expect the Republucans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the cows AC way more than I like this AC.

  5. Re:Expect the Republucans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOOOOOOOOOO!

  6. Re:Expect the Republucans... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    The cow AC at least is somewhat creative and funny. This Republucan AC is so rarely accurate and seems to lack any creativity at all.

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  7. Re:Expect the Republucans... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Funny

    LOL .. you are all Republicows! Moo you damned Repulicows! Moo!

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  8. Where's the cow guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol..... He's late.

    Better than GNAA, anyway.

    (I think the GNAA stuff was Weev, anyhow. He's probably posting on Stormfront now. The American Justice system turned him into a NAZI).

  9. Surface mount by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those 3mm LED's look like through-hole components. How well will it work with surface mount components and solder paste?

    -JS

    1. Re:Surface mount by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Or more to the point, how well will this stuff handle being in a reflow oven?

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  10. Re:Expect the Republucans... by Coren22 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Republican cows say Moo Guns Moo

    And they poop on gay people's shoes.

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  11. Re:Expect the Republucans... by truck_soccer · · Score: 1

    Ah that really made my Tuesday.

  12. Covert by haberelazig23 · · Score: 1

    Anonuyms covert http://www.haberelazig.com/

  13. Re:Expect the Republucans... by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    huh? Who is pushing for outlawing gen iv nuke reactors? GMOs? Irradiated foods?
    Plenty of idiots on the far left, just like the far right.

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