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Uber's Smartphone-Based Gyrometer Monitoring Seems To Be the Future of Driving (thestack.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Uber has announced that it has been conducting trials in Houston, Texas, since late 2015 which use data from the gyrometer in drivers' smartphones, combined with accelerometer and GPS data, to perform forensic analysis on Uber journeys where the customer flagged up errant driving behavior such as speeding or tailgating. Uber's post also indicates that talking on a phone whilst driving may be included as a factor in safety-oriented trials. The auto-insurers' move from dedicated telematics technology to smartphone-based data provision was spearheaded by British insurer Aviva in 2012, with massive U.S. insurer Progressive now actively pursuing driver monitoring. However the premium reductions are diminishing as the practice heads from experimental, to default, to obligatory — or so many believe.
3 Uber stories on the front page? Isn't this enough Uber shilling for one day?
I've watched a few episodes of Cops, and the roadside interviews on camera are astonishingly more polite than some I've experienced.
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The drivers may notice the leash they're on if you tighten it too quickly.
So, then Uber drivers and anyone else being monitored for insurance etc, will resort to carrying 2 phones. One tied to their car, one for calling/texting so they can do both simultaneously and not get dinged.
The day this shit becomes compulsory for Progressive is the day I find a new insurance company and/or buy 7 more cars (junkers) so I don't have to carry auto insurance. Uhhh, well, maybe not that second option.
Regardless, this sounds less like the future of driving and more like the future of getting boned on your insurance rates.
Say you break heavily because some arsehole cuts you up and hits his breaks. Happens a lot in the UK, because if you leave adequate stopping distance in front of you some prat will pull into it, realize he is going to read end the guy in front and stomp on his brake. According to data it looks like you are a bad driver who brakes heavily sometimes, even though you are avoiding someone else's mistake.
Similar issues exist with telematics that uses the ODB-II port to monitor the pedals. In cars with small engines you need to floor it to get up hills or accelerate to motorways speeds, but to the telematics it looks like you have a lead foot and enjoy accelerating hard.
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I don't have a smart phone, and I don't want one.
Unless they plan on making ownership of a smart phone as a mandatory condition for providing insurance, which I question the legality of, they simply can't make this obligatory.
Consenting to being tracked at all times for the benefit of an insurance company? Yeah, go fuck yourselves.
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What if they don't own a smartphone? What if their smartphone doesn't have gyro bullshit? What if they don't have a phone or data plan, just a phone itself?
This shit doesn't make sense.
As an employee, there is strict time enforcement, there are rules on paperwork, and even behavior. As a contract worker, I was never micromanaged. No one every bugged my computer, or demanded detailed records. If I was not getting work done then the contract was terminated. It was that simple. If I am a contract worker being treated as an employee would not seem to be very fair and counterproductive.
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This may not be the case in Europe, but in North America a majority of the cities we have were designed for the automobile as the main mode of transportation. this means that giving up telemetrics of your car says a lot about you. combine this with a side push for smart house monitoring systems and the insurance companies will know everything about us. Then its just a NSL letter away from tryanny.
personally i dont get why people are willing to raise their personal risk level to lower the risk level of the corporation that is supposed to be providing them with a service.
On a side note, what if i dont have a cellphone and drive a car made before OBD2? because of my personal choices i am no longer allowed to drive? here's hoping that a bunch of seniors take up the cause!
If it came down to monitoring your phones gyro, then I would let my phone dangle from a string on the mirror, and let it swing around while driving. The readings would so wild and out of parameter they couldn't possibly be counted as valid.
makes there drivers more like W2's and not 1099's. So how far do they want to push this?
There? Where?
What if the driver does 50hrs with their phone sliding around on the dashboard or in the glove box? That would look like they love cornering hard every time the phone reaches the extremes of its confines and suddenly stops.
this is just easily solved by requiring uber to deploy the equivalent of progressive snapshot. Phones are unreliable given they can be tossed about, etc. and, noting, per other threads, that what makes for aggressive driving in the burbs is 'required' to get around in say NYC. My biggest gripe about uber is that when I complain, it sure seems that their helpdesk says 'they'll have a word with the driver,' when in fact, it's the uber corporate that is at fault. An uber snapshot would help better inform them.
Your auto insurance rate was based on.
Your actual driving record not everyone else. Pepper Ridge Farms does.
Are they coining their own terms now?
"Gyro sensor", "Gyroscope" etc. sure, but "Gyrometer"? WTF?
from companies that want to use my data for their business purposes. Once they start getting data they'll want more simply because it's available and can be turned into money. Of course, it may very well become evidence in court cases, since insurance companies and trial lawyers will know what to look for to bolster their case, and third parties may want access as well in matters unrelated to driving. Once a data breach occurs things could get real interesting, especially if they geo tag the data. "Politician X, you make a lot of stops at this sadness inhabited by Z. Having a little fun on the side?"
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use data from the gyrometer in drivers' smartphones, combined with accelerometer and GPS data,
Also know as Inertial Measurement and Inertial Navigation techniques. Drones, [and some hoverboards] use this all the time (it's their core)...
They were never an employee of Uber to begin with. Uber has no employees, they're strictly an information service, right? Right?
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