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How Astronomers Used the First Concorde Prototype To Chase a Total Eclipse (vice.com)

tedlistens writes: On Wednesday, a solar eclipse gave people across a swath of Indonesia and the South Pacific the chance to see a generous 4 minutes and 9 seconds of totality: the awe-inspiring sight of the moon completely covering the sun, turning day into night and offering a rare glimpse of the corona, the gas swirling in the Sun's outer atmosphere. But in 1972, a small group of astronomers from around the globe sought a way for seeing a longer eclipse than ever before: a prototype Concorde, capable of chasing the eclipse for a whopping 74 minutes across the Sahara Desert, at twice the speed of sound.

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  1. 1972!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is this a new Slashdot record for "old news?"

    1. Re:1972!? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      No, it works on the binary system.

      A article is posted:
      the same day as the event
      the next day
      4 days after the event
      8 days
      16 days
      32 days
      and so on...

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    2. Re: 1972!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Did anyone else notice the messed up geography? Author says the Atlantic is east of Tenerife, and that the shadow traveled westward from South America to the coast of Africa.

    3. Re: 1972!? by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Well, to the east of Tenerife is water, which could be called the Atlantic ocean, and if you fly west in a aircraft like the concorde, you would eventually get to the coast of Africa...

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  2. SOFIA by chrisaj5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A much more modern version of this is NASA's SOFIA aircraft. It observes in infrared with a large telescope. I worked on SOFIA, but had never heard of this! Incredible... even though the results were meh, that ride must have been amazing. I hope the visual portholes were good!

    1. Re:SOFIA by Strider- · · Score: 4, Interesting

      SOFIA is a magnificent instrument and a crazy aircraft with fantastic capabilities, but the 747 it's based in can't keep up with an eclipse. The thing that has always impressed me with SOFIA is how they manage to open a door that large, at speed, without the aerodynamic forces ripping the aircraft apart. The Engineers who built that have some serious chops.

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    2. Re:SOFIA by Alioth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A Boeing 747 held together when this happened:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      A Boeing 737 held together when this happened:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      The engineering in an airliner is magnificent.

    3. Re:SOFIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're impressed by SOFIA having an open door at speed, then you'll be astonished by this...

      http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-07/going-mach-20-open-cockpit

      Yes. You read that right. Mach 2 sans canopy.

    4. Re:SOFIA by delt0r · · Score: 1

      To be fair the Aloha case was one of "WTF, that shouldn't work". Really that much damage means the front is just not structurally connected to the aft sections. Of course we are leaving out all the cases where such events did in fact result in total loss of aircraft.

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  3. Keeping up with the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How soon will Branson and Bezos start ferrying the rich and famous into LEO to view such events? Brother, could you spare a billion or two USD so I can get my name on the waiting list?

    1. Re:Keeping up with the times by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'd say the current tech is good enough for it.

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    2. Re: Keeping up with the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That might give a clear view of Earth, but it won't beat the length of time given by the Concorde. LEO would be going too fast, considering you would be going behind the Earth every 45 minutes.

  4. Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Rod Stewart would travel from London to NY on the Concorde, EVERY WEEK, just to have his hair styled.

    1. Re:Concorde by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Funny

      Rod Stewart would travel from London to NY on the Concorde, EVERY WEEK, just to have his hair styled.

      Seriously dude, who didn't?

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    2. Re:Concorde by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I've seen him. I really don't want to know what he would have looked like if he didn't if that's the result of some expert hair stylist.

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    3. Re:Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it seems rather wasteful to use the Concorde, ever week, to have your hair styled. There's plenty of great stylists in London. You don't need to consume 350,000+ L of kerosene every week for a hair cut.

    4. Re:Concorde by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      You don't need to consume 350,000+ L of kerosene every week for a hair cut.

      Especially when the result is looking like an aged lesbian

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    5. Re:Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need to consume 350,000+ L of kerosene every week for a hair cut.

      Especially when the result is looking like an aged lesbian

      I always imagined he'd ask for "like Ron Wood", who in turn would do the same. And so on, in a kind of insane weird hairdo arms race.

    6. Re:Concorde by delt0r · · Score: 1

      that is not fair to aged lesbians.

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    7. Re:Concorde by calque · · Score: 1

      Well, it seems rather wasteful to use the Concorde, ever week, to have your hair styled. There's plenty of great stylists in London. You don't need to consume 350,000+ L of kerosene every week for a hair cut.

      He didn't, that is a gross exaggeration, especially since he didn't fly all by himself. The Concorde got about 16 passenger-miles per gallon of jet fuel, so it wasn't that inefficient. Since it's 3460 miles from London to NY, that equates to about 1640 liters round trip.

  5. What this reinforced for me... by gweilo8888 · · Score: 2

    ... was just how freaking huge the Sahara Desert is, that one could fly over it in the same direction non-stop for that long at twice the speed of sound without reaching the end!!!

    1. Re:What this reinforced for me... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      The Shara Desert is where the Morocco government is building out a 585-megawatt, half-million solar panel power plant that covers 6,178 acres.

      Concentrated solar power plants use the Sun's energy to heat water and produce steam that spins energy-generating turbines. The system at Ouarzazate uses 12-meter-tall parabolic mirrors to focus energy onto a fluid-filled pipeline. The pipeline's hot fluid—393 degrees Celsius (739 degrees Fahrenheit)—is the heat source used to warm the water and make steam. The plant doesn't stop delivering energy at nighttime or when clouds obscure the sun; heat from the fluid can be stored in a tank of molten salts.

      http://gizmodo.com/watch-a-massive-solar-power-plant-take-shape-in-the-sah-1752261396

    2. Re:What this reinforced for me... by stoborrobots · · Score: 1

      according to google:

      speed of sound at sea level * 2 * (74 minutes) = 3 021.7752 kilometres

      which is about 2/3rd the distance across America.

    3. Re:What this reinforced for me... by Therefore+I+am · · Score: 1

      Big it is. If you ever find yourself there standing next to a huge pile of shovels it is time to run for your life. The real work begins when the cement arrives!

    4. Re:What this reinforced for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it is 3000km.

      See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant_figures

    5. Re:What this reinforced for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... where do you think he lost significance?

      he was basically answering, how much distance can something moving twice the speed of sound move in 74 minutes?

      none of which is actually measured other than the speed of sound. everything else is defined by the question.

    6. Re:What this reinforced for me... by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

      Of course, that's at sea level, which ain't where Concorde flies. At altitude, 74 minutes would be more like 2,700 kilometers / 1,700 miles.

  6. God, I miss the Concorde by JohnStock · · Score: 2

    What a majestic lady she was with a roar of a lion to match it.

    1. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I miss single-income families with union wages, benefits, and pension plans. Keep your plane.

    2. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm the bread winner in a single income family with benefits and pension... no union.... Keep your shitty country.

    3. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by MightyYar · · Score: 0

      I'm wondering why anyone would pine for a pension plan, after all these years of seeing how governments and corporations hung pensioners out to dry. It seems immoral to promise them (since you won't be alive, or at least not in a position, to keep the promise) and naive to work with the expectation of receiving one (I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today).

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    4. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you plan to work until the day you die?

      a pension is just a name for an investment that is targeted at providing income in your dotage and is guaranteed by the govt... it's brilliant if you live in a country where everyone is working for the betterment of both themselves and others.... obviously it sucks if you live in a country of rat fuckers

      I'm a high income socialist, I don't mind paying my taxes and getting something for it (even if that thing that I get is the knowledge that some scumbag who would otherwise be robbing people to make ends meet has instead been given free money to piss off and keep himself to himself).... likewise with the pension, paying in and knowing that I will probably put more in than I get out is fine as there will be some old person who can live in dignity. what I don't like is being forced to pay into privately managed funds that purport to be there to look after me in my old age but the reality is they've skimmed it as hard as possible to and given fat bonuses to shitheads in suits... here in australia the introduction of 'superannuation' was an absolute evil perpetrated by nasty little right wing extremists, what a tragedy

    5. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Coeurderoy · · Score: 2

      Thank you for that ! yes pensions that go directly to the people needing them right now are much more efficient than "capitalized pensions" which means that people who have no real idea what they are doing are allowed to slice some money out of you pot every year as "management fees", and when you retire the people who are working now do not feel that they have any reason to give you something since you had the opportunity to "save" well minus whatever the corporations or the banks feel fit to slice off, and of course since it's private, no voting ....

      And I miss the Concorde, and a time where a young scientist could go see a high level manager with real technical and scientific knowledge and make something like this happen.
      Sure the "CFOs" where probably thinking of this as a promotion gimmick, but still it was possible.

    6. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I miss the car, the Chrysler Concorde. Beautiful, well executed car for its time (introduced in 1993). I don't know much about the plane though.

    7. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is no need to ever save for retirement. That entire idea is an artificial construct pushed by individualism and of course financial interests to have even more liquidity in the market. Remember that while traders can make money on a rising market, they *always* make money on volume, so the more money in the market the better they do. In addition to this, by having the entire population's "future" invested in the market, our attitudes towards financial reforms, political and social ideals, and decision making, are all skewed and distorted. In other words, pension schemes (such as superannuation in Australia, but also more widely) are an unnecessary scam that have some potentially damaging side effects.

      What's the answer?

      Simple, provide basic pension funds to all retirees from current tax revenue. Period. It's actually that simple.

    8. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I often had to stay overnigt at Heathrow and it was worth it just to see the reactions of the non locals when the first concorde of the day took off

    9. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So am I. As are most of my friends. Maybe the OP is just a loser.

    10. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      You should read up on how the Honda Jet came to be. A young engineer with a passion would not give up on his project, a couple decades later his dreams come true.

      There are still companies that value ideas.

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    11. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      obviously it sucks if you live in a country of rat fuckers

      Your faith in your fellow countrymen is refreshing, but naive. There is no way to ensure that future generations will not throw you under the bus.

      I'm a high income socialist

      I don't have any problem with your socialist ideology. But I do think that future promises need to be backed up with money. To do otherwise is to shift costs - this is both irresponsible and burdensome to future generations. Putting your kids in debt is not generally a moral thing to do - though I can think of some exceptions like infrastructure spending, where they will reap the benefits.

      In other words, you can have pensions and still be moral - but then they are basically just annuities. If all of your hard work was actually paid for when it was done, you wouldn't have a situation where people in suits or politicians could easily steal from you.

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    12. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Simple, provide basic pension funds to all retirees from current tax revenue. Period. It's actually that simple.

      Never trust a smiling cat, or a politician who promises to pay you tomorrow for work done today.

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    13. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by PPH · · Score: 1

      Who do you think built them?

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    14. Re:God, I miss the Concorde by PPH · · Score: 1

      socialist

      So then, you'll be flying on the Concordski.

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  7. 74m at that speed is just 3000km by grimJester · · Score: 1

    The Sahara is wider than the US

    1. Re:74m at that speed is just 3000km by Opportunist · · Score: 3

      This is begging for a "your mom" joke.

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  8. Isaac Asimov by Ly4 · · Score: 1

    Isaac Asimov wrote about following the eclipse in an airplane in a mystery / sci-fi story, The Backward Look. This was published in Casebook of the Black Widowers in 1980, and maybe in some magazines before then.

    The story itself isn't one of Asimov's best; there's a convoluted story-within-the-story that features the eclipse chasing. But that mental image has stuck with me over the years. Never knew what it was based on, until now.

  9. Re:Hey, where is the by Coeurderoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes they had special little flaps to hide the E whenever they flew over english speaking countries...

    and by the way I have a bridge to sell you ....

  10. Nice geography lesson by Megane · · Score: 1

    At precisely 10:08 am on the morning of June 30, the four twin-spool Olympus 593 engines under the Concorde’s sweeping white wings powered up to full afterburner and launched “001” down the runway of Tenerife’s Las Palmas airport. Thousands of miles to the east, the shadow of the moon was already racing across the Atlantic at over 1,200 mph, as the eclipse shadow sped westward from South America toward the African coast.

    I didn't realize that Africa was westward from South America. I mean, I guess it is if you go the long way, but I don't think that's what happened here.

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    1. Re:Nice geography lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't realize that Africa was westward from South America. I mean, I guess it is if you go the long way, but I don't think that's what happened here.

      Depends if you're looking up or down to the equator.

    2. Re:Nice geography lesson by rwise2112 · · Score: 2

      At precisely 10:08 am on the morning of June 30, the four twin-spool Olympus 593 engines under the Concorde’s sweeping white wings powered up to full afterburner and launched “001” down the runway of Tenerife’s Las Palmas airport. Thousands of miles to the east, the shadow of the moon was already racing across the Atlantic at over 1,200 mph, as the eclipse shadow sped westward from South America toward the African coast.

      I didn't realize that Africa was westward from South America. I mean, I guess it is if you go the long way, but I don't think that's what happened here.

      It's not a geography lesson. It's an astronomy lesson! The path of the moon's shadow is travelling westward.

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  11. Re:Hey, where is the by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    As you have an E at the end of have, leave, niece, and Greece, which you do not speak in English, you just might manage with Concorde.You should get used to such things. The English language inherited half of its vocabulary from the French with lots of Es.

  12. A good read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty interesting article. A bunch of scientists flying in a prototype supersonic commercial jet modified with four portholes in the roof of the cabin conducting solar eclipse experiments. Can't image the FAA or EASA today would green light such a thing.

  13. The most impressive thing by rayan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I walked through this Concorde at Le Bourget airport a few months ago. The thing that stunned me was mentioned in the article: they hit their tracking start point, a point in space above Africa, at Mach 2 within *1 second* of plan on manual flight controls. One of the posters at the exhibit described how the pilot would adjust the speed at different points prior to rendezvous in order to track to plan. This was done by hand in 1972. With all the tech today we could only be 1 second better. That's pretty impressive.

  14. Considering the Sahara is in Africa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I don't see why they would have to.