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Amazon Opens Up the Software For Alexa-Controlled Smart Homes (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader cites an article on CNET: Amazon's virtual assistant Alexa has already grown into a viable platform for voice-activated smart home control. Now, Amazon is introducing new, open software that will make it easier for smart home gadgets to hop aboard that platform. The software is a new addition to the Alexa Skills Kit called the Smart Home Skill API. The API makes it faster and easier for device makers to build the Skills that sync their products up with Alexa, and it standardizes the vocabulary that they'll use, too. If I make a smart thermostat and sync it up with Alexa using the Smart Home Skill API, I'll be using common terminology that Alexa already knows. That means that Alexa will be able to control my thermostat with basic commands like, "Turn the heat up" or, "Set the thermostat to 70" without me needing to program any of it.

51 comments

  1. This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How will they kill it to force you to buy a replacement if they open it up?

    1. Re:This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How will they kill it to force you to buy a replacement if they open it up?

      This. They'll find some other way to screw your. Well, just ordering from them screws yourself. My last six orders have all taken over two weeks before they shipped. Amazon it terribly slow.

    2. Re:This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You use free shipping?

      There seems to be no difference in the method of shipping when using "free" vs standard. The only difference is that with free, they sit on your order for 7-14 days before actually shipping it. My free ones average 8-10 days before they goes out the door. I just use my brother's prime account now.

    3. Re:This doesn't make sense by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      If you really want hardware churn, up the percentage of tin in the solder on the circuit boards. Tin whiskers will grow and short out the board. While they CAN be mitigated with additional coatings of other metals, this adds cost, and thus is likely not a feature of consumer-grade electronics. . .

    4. Re:This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had to contact Amazon several times in the last 3-4 months because they just never got around to shipping things. One order took over 2 months to ship. My last order was of two identical things (of which they had 5 in stock), and one shipped, and the other didn't. In fact, it was estimated to arrive yesterday, despite never having been shipped.

    5. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Amazon is insanely slow at shipping.

    6. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could almost throw a rock and hit their headquarters where I live in Seattle, but most packages still take over a week before they even ship. Why hold orders for so long before filling them?

    7. Re:This doesn't make sense by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Two things:
      Pay for Prime if you order a lot.

      Also, look for "fulfilled by Amazon" products. If Amazon fulfills it, it will ship quickly.....otherwise, it's up to the seller to ship it and it could take a while (even worse when it's from China).

    8. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The warehouse near my house only ships one day a week which adds an average of 3.5 days of delay to each order. It seems like it would be more efficient to ship everyday instead.

    9. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And sit on orders for a week or two before processing them!

    10. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And even if you pay for next day air, they'll still not fill the order for days.

    11. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or weeks!

    12. Re:This doesn't make sense by internerdj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amazon seems only interested in hardware as far as it will suck you in to their content/shopping ecology.

    13. Re: This doesn't make sense by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

      I don't know what you've been ordering from Amazon, but everything I buy from Amazon arrives at a max 3 days after I place the order.

      I order materials multiple times a week over the past 4 years and amazon hasn't let me down once.

      Get things that are fulfilled by Amazon and you won't have those 2 week lapses in shipping.

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    14. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a car battery from Amazon, and have been riding the bus for over three weeks!

    15. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They always hold orders for a week or longer to try to get you to switch to Prime.

    16. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not going to happen in this lifetime most likely.

    17. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get things that are fulfilled by Amazon and you won't have those 2 week lapses in shipping.

      Got four orders on the way right now with them, and that's a load of BS. All of the items are "Sold by XXXX and Fulfilled by Amazon." One order was placed seven weeks ago for an item that Amazon claimed to have in stock. The other three orders are all over two weeks old. Yes, living in Seattle means slow shipping from everywhere, but more than two week delays before shipping is just ridiculous. Amazon is slow.

    18. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Provably false. I don't have prime, everything I've ever ordered from them I've received within a week of placing the order. Usually is out the door in less than 48 hours, often less than 24. If they always held orders, then my anecdote couldn't exist.

    19. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get things that are fulfilled by Amazon and you won't have those 2 week lapses in shipping.

      Got four orders on the way right now with them, and that's a load of BS. All of the items are "Sold by XXXX and Fulfilled by Amazon." One order was placed seven weeks ago for an item that Amazon claimed to have in stock. The other three orders are all over two weeks old. Yes, living in Seattle means slow shipping from everywhere, but more than two week delays before shipping is just ridiculous. Amazon is slow.

      We have Prime Now - which offers a limited selection, but a guy hops in a car and drives it over to you from the distribution center in a couple of hours.

    20. Re: This doesn't make sense by Pascoea · · Score: 1
      That is an odd comment. I buy regularly from Amazon, and am I Prime subscriber. If I order something that is eligible from Prime I have it in two days or less, every time.

      The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if they are intentionally slowing down shipping in order to drive more people to pay for Prime.

    21. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are so slow at shipping.

    22. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My last "next" day order took ten days. Amazon was nice and refunded the extra I paid for the shipping, but I needed the book the next day.

    23. Re: This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely not my experience. I order a lot of stuff from Amazon (7 or 8 order already in April) and generally receive everything within a few days. The only items I ever see take a while to ship are items from third parties or clothes (which are often from third parties). Pretty much everything else from toys, to food, to vitamins, to whatever else shows up very quickly.

    24. Re:This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You use free shipping?

      No, shipping was $6.99 for my last order on March 22 that hasn't shipped yet. It's from a third-party, but fulfilled by Amazon. From the product page, "Sold by cleanpower and Fulfilled by Amazon." I've been an Amazon customer since 1996 when I used to buy about $2k worth of books per year, so it's frustrating to see them go downhill by so much on shipping time.

  2. Is it serendpity. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    . . . .or did the Nest/Revolv issue speed up the announcement and release of this ??

    1. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by klingens · · Score: 1

      What moron would still "buy" any cloud based smarthom systerm after this?

    2. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone that wants to stay relevant in the 201x's and ever have a prayer of selling their home.

    3. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Moof123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed. Stuff for your home should be planned to be in place for 15-30 years. Most IoT and cloud crap sold today is likely to have more like a 1-3 year lifespan before lack of support, hard coded vulnerabilities, or shoddy quality kills it off. Wait for widely accepted standards and keep things simple. Otherwise you'll be spending your weekends and evenings ripping out the old crap when it dies sooner than you think.

      Can you imagine if your washer and dryer bricked every couple years? Garage door opener?

      Most of the stuff sold today are toys. Only buy it if it is for fun, it will likely be non-functional before the next decade.

    4. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone that wants to stay relevant in the 201x's and ever have a prayer of selling their home.

      That's quite alright. I'll sell my home just fine to the consumer who still gives a shit about security and privacy while praying for the rest of the fucking nation to come to their senses about what constitutes value in a home.

    5. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Well gee, this house is really nice and it's in a great location, and it fits our needs, and it's in our price range, but we're going to pass because it doesn't have a little computer that we could easily put in for a few hundred bucks if we wanted to"

      - Nobody

    6. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone that wants to stay relevant in the 201x's and ever have a prayer of selling their home.

      I tour a house or two a year (local neighborhood homes, just to see what is out there) and I haven't seen home automation as a selling point yet.

      Maybe it's the area I'm in. Maybe it's the price range of homes I'm looking at. But right now, a smarthome system isn't necessary to sell the homes I'm looking at.

    7. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell you haven't purchased an appliance lately. Name brands mean nothing as far as I can tell - all cheap components and shoddy workmanship.

    8. Re:Is it serendpity. . . by Moof123 · · Score: 1

      Bought most of our stuff 9 years ago. We went for base models, as those are the highest volume and have shown to fail less than the fancy upright shiny models that spent their effort on form rather than function. Other than a well handled infant mortality event with our fridge all the appliances have been totally trouble free.

  3. The more open it is, the more hacked it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The more "public" you make the interface, the more surface area you expose. I'll keep my mercury-powered, dial-type thermostat, thanks.

  4. voice fail by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Set the thermostat to 70 = 700

    1. Re:voice fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alexa, activate self destruct sequence, time delay 30 seconds, on my mark. Mark.

    2. Re:voice fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one named Mark is present. Invite Mark Hempstead to house? YES/NO

    3. Re:voice fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Set the thermostat to 70

      Alexa: Setting the thermostat to 17 degrees. Will there be anything else Joe_Dragon?

    4. Re:voice fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like the old saying goes, if you can't stand the heat get out of the automated home.

  5. Not after nest. No way. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fool me once....

    Not interested and glad others are seeing how much control they lose to get the new shiny.

  6. Open Software by Cyphase · · Score: 0

    "... Opens Up the Software ..."

    "... introducing new, open software ..."

    Did anyone else get their hopes up for a split second, until they realized that was very unlikely to be true and read the rest of it?

    (I do realize that the description is just a quote from TFA.)

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  7. Memories of Apple Events 25 years ago by Etcetera · · Score: 2

    This really reminds me of Apple Events back when they were first introduced in the System 7 release... As best it could at the time, the community was attempting (led by Apple) to adopt a common vocabulary for domain specific nouns and verbs, so that all word processors would understand the terms "sentence" and "paragraph" for example. Or "font size".

    Ideally, you'd be able to issue something like this below for *any* WP, even if it wasn't fully Recordable yet:


    tell application MyWordProcessor
          set the font size of the first word of the second sentence of the third paragraph to 12
    end

  8. Can I change the wake word yet?!? by JoeDuncan · · Score: 1

    There's no way I'm ever getting a system like Echo unless I can set the "wake" word to whatever I like.

    Yawn! Going to sleep now, wake me when I can choose my wake word...

    1. Re:Can I change the wake word yet?!? by Holi · · Score: 2

      Check out here why that is never going to be a thing.
      http://lovemyecho.com/2015/11/...

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      Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
    2. Re:Can I change the wake word yet?!? by JoeDuncan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but none of those are real objections. I've studied linguistics and I've built speech recognition systems, so I'm quite familiar with how they work.

      Essentially the reasoning boils down to "because we took every shortcut we could find" and now we are constrained by those decisions.

      The accuracy of modern continuous speech recognition systems is quite close to human accuracy, and almost on par with proper training - which should be sufficient. The accuracy of isolated word recognition in modern speech recognition systems is easily as a good as a human, and there's no reason (pretty much by definition) that Echo needs to use continuous recognition until the wake word has already been detected.

      The only "real" reason I can see for this lack is that the engineers were forced to "paint themselves into a corner" with their software design by being told to use every shortcut and heuristic possible to cut costs/dev time, and implementing it now would "go against the grain" and require more re-writes than management is willing to sponsor.

      Until they do have custom wake word though, Echo itself is "never going to be a thing" in my home.

    3. Re:Can I change the wake word yet?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why. None of the other devices have custom wake words. Why would this be such a blocker that you would say never?

      They have released Echo as a new wake word, so what's to say more are not coming?

  9. Re:American Negroes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kid, if you want someone to pay attention to you, just call your mom.

  10. Um, "Open"? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    I realize that this is "The Cloud" and all; but does releasing an SDK that makes it easier to build applications that depend on your proprietary cloud service really count as "opening" it?

    They are obviously under no obligation to open anything, whether fully or partially; and this will presumably make their stuff more useful; it just seems really weird to use "open" to describe what is basically the same thing that platform vendors have always done to encourage people to write stuff that runs on their platform or works with it. A publicly visible platform or API is different than an internal-only one; but if this is 'amazon opens up Alexa', then the fact that you can write win32 applications would be 'Microsoft opens up Windows'.

  11. API is too limiting. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    Really the Echo is really cool hardware but the current API is just too limiting.
    How about an Echo intercom system? How about using it as a Sonos?
    I really like my Echo but I know it could do a lot more.

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