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Snowden Predicts Global iPhone Hack, Records Song (popsci.com)
Edward Snowden criticized the FBI for leaving open security holes found in the iPhone, predicting the hack will now become globally available by the end of 2016. "Personally, I think we'll see it by the end of August," he wrote to his two million followers on Twitter, where one British newspaper reports Snowden was also "recently invited into a Twitter private group chat with a lot of teenage girls who didn't know who he was." (Snowden asked them to call him "Ed," and warned them that if they messaged him, the NSA would read their messages.)
Friday Snowden also tweeted a 2013 article about the U.C. Davis police officer who used pepper spray on protesters, writing that the officer was later awarded $38,000 "for his 'pain and suffering'." But Snowden has also been collaborating with French electronic musician Jean-Michel Jarre, contributing samples of his voice to a six-minute track to be included on an upcoming album. "Technology can actually increase privacy," Snowden says on the track, which is available on YouTube. "The question is: Why are our private details that are transmitted online, why are your private details that are stored on our personal devices, any different than the details and private records of our lives that are stored in our private journals?"
Friday Snowden also tweeted a 2013 article about the U.C. Davis police officer who used pepper spray on protesters, writing that the officer was later awarded $38,000 "for his 'pain and suffering'." But Snowden has also been collaborating with French electronic musician Jean-Michel Jarre, contributing samples of his voice to a six-minute track to be included on an upcoming album. "Technology can actually increase privacy," Snowden says on the track, which is available on YouTube. "The question is: Why are our private details that are transmitted online, why are your private details that are stored on our personal devices, any different than the details and private records of our lives that are stored in our private journals?"
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Unless you're in the very early teen years, how the hell do you not know who Snowden is? It was only the lead news story in virtually every news outlet on the planet, his name still routinely appears in privacy related stories such as the FBI/Apple stuff, and the info was arguably was the most important civil rights oriented technology story since the 1990's.
How does a person manage to not be aware of that? A person who probably uses electronic communication devices every day of their life, yet?
We can't achieve a good society with an uneducated populace. People understanding and being aware of issues is critical to the preservation of civil rights.
How does a person manage to not be aware of that?
Speed readers...
There are fewer illiterates than people who can't read.
I agree that nothing about this is worthy of the Slashdot front page.
Of course we should expect the iPhone to have security flaws. All software and hardware products likely do! That's just the nature of the beast! Yes, the developers will often try to fix these problems as soon as they're aware, but it's always going to be an ongoing problem.
And the shit about the song or music or whatever is totally irrelevant.
It disappoints me to see so many useless stories like this one on the front page lately when there are so many great stories in the Firehose that end up discarded. I can't find it any longer, but there was a really interesting one about how one of the Pale Moon developers alleged that Mozilla told the Pale Moon devs to "police" the Pale Moon forums. While Slashdot discarded the submission here, which was probably the wrong thing to do, SoylentNews did the right thing and put a similar submission on their front page.
Recording music, trying to pry his way into the FBIvApple which he knows nothing about. Great bro.
You're just spouting out the obvious now trying to stay relevant.
It's obvious to you and obvious to me, but it's not obvious to most of those teenage girls on Twitter (let alone most of the readership of the LA Times or the Telegraph). Look outside the tech bubble for a moment and you'll find a lot of people who need the obvious explained to them.
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I agree that nothing about this is worthy of the Slashdot front page.
I respectfully disagree. Most of the "story" is kind of pointless, but a collaboration between Edward Snowden and Jean-Michel Jarre is as "news for nerds" as it gets.
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He just expressed an opinion on Twitter, and did some other stuff. he isn't the one making a "news" story out of it. That said, I really want to know how his bowel movements are going. Way to go for leaving that out, submitter.
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Ponty? Mellow? Amy?
Nobody cares what you think; you aren't special or an expert at any subject matter.
Why would you deny him the right to talk? I agree his tweets are uninteresting, but they as uninteresting as many other people's tweets.
The problem here is that journalists think they need to inform us about everything he says.
If only Snowpup tried these tactics on the Soviet Union he'd be dead or in Siberia by now.
He's the epitome of the spoiled rotten anti-social tech bros and probably a sociopath as well as a spy for the Soviets.
Someday he will have a fatal car accident or overdose on heroin, but this can't happen until the Western press tires of giving him publicity. Boy just loves reading his name in the newspaper and unfortunately for us, it's keeping him alive for now. Or maybe he'll tire of the game in a decade or two when the Soviets no longer have any use for him. Again, that depends on us not clicking on the click-bait. He'll never submit to a trial by jury because he simply doesn't believe in this country in spite of his loud cries to the contrary. We pray for a genuine fatal accident long before the time he can be safely taken out covertly.
Also to the point if he blew the whistle for our interest or did he do it for shameless self promotion to show how great he is.
Don't be a fucking retard, you are smarter than that.
He would still have been better off by just keeping his mouth shut, yet he didn't.
"Look, you did a good thing a long time ago, so thanks for that... but you and your opinions aren't front page worthy. "
Especially when the hack applies to an old version of the iPhone. If the hack does 'spread worldwide' it will primarily affect stolen phones.
Ever since the whole snowden thing happened, I've been amazed at how many AC's show up in snowden-related threads. Its really interesting, almost like theres some kind of infowar going on.
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Snowden may have been naive enough to think that he would change things, Greenwald certainly engaged in self promotion and certainly shoved Snowden off a cliff for his own reward.
So considering that the FBI isn't going to release the hack, if snowden knows that it's exploitable en masse, he must know what it is. Therefore he should man up and release it himself.
If he, like most people, doesn't know what it is, then he has no way of predicting this correctly.
If it's a hardware hack that requires desoldering, then almost no one will be on the receiving end. If it's a software hack then apple can likely replace an update quickly.
Is this guy really a patriot or just an anarchist? The more I see of him, the less reasonable he becomes.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
It's obvious to everyone (I would hope) here at Slashdot, which means it's a worthless article.
That's if you believe what the FBI said, that it only affects the 5C hardware. It has been claimed by a lot of people that it was a software hack...
Why don't you two douches get a room, hmm??
your private journals don't traverse public property. moron. were you serious, ed? you really don't see the difference?
The whole reason he went public in the first place is to make this high profile. If he let's whatever powers that be allow it to fall into obscurity it defeats whatever good he did. He practically HAS to keep a public profile now on this stuff.
captcha: resist
He's asking why they're treated separately from a legal standpoint. Moron. Were you serious, AC? You really don't see his point?
Oh c'mon Jean-Michel! Your latest works are trash and now this!?
Please, stop making "music". You're not relevant anymore.
First off, the FBI bought the technology from Cellebrite, most likely spending untold millions of tax payers funds. This shouldn't be real news to anyone, it's not the first time the US has depended upon Israeli intelligence to do what they weren't capable of (Betancourt rescue).
So now that the hack has been paid for and sold, someone will leak it for some reason or annother. The prediction is an obvious one, not needing any special talent or insite.
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No doubt the NSA will use a hacked copy of this tune to crack into the iPhones through their MP3 player code...
I'm in management at a music school/academy and my office is right beside the admissions desk and waiting area. I hear students age 10-20 talking all day long basically.
The amount of stupidity and lack of knowledge about current events is absolutely astounding these days, especially among the younger crowd. They are significantly more interested in what the Kardashians are doing and which one of their Facebook friends is the biggest loser.
So is Snowden now a celebrity media personality who is famous for being famous and whose every word the /. demographic is supposed to hang?
If so, I didn't get the memo.
Snowden's social tweets aren't of any great consequence, but media stories about him still play a vital role because the war against mass surveillance of western populations continues.
Without pushback by media and citizenry, our so-called democratic states were on an unhindered evolution from relative freedom to strong and very opaque police states. Snowden's efforts brought some much-needed illumination and public input to the whole area. After all, our governments are supposed to be working on our behalf against the bad guys, and not treating the entire populations of our countries as the enemy.
Some people are expressing boredom about Snowden's social activities. Well that's easily handled, just ignore the stories if you have no interest in them. They still play an important role in the media, because the pressure brought about by his revelations still needs to be maintained. And he's probably trying to have a social life too, which can't be easy in his circumstances.
"The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
Being famous and in the spotlight might scare off would be assassination attempts.
Too Many Privates.
How dare you FBI. Exposing secrets should be the exclusive domain of lone wolf nerds.
Lol. It must be sweet for them to get paid for their bullshit.
There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, General Electric, and Exxon
An analysis of the number and distribution of ACs posting by article type could be interesting.
Ever since the whole snowden thing happened, I've been amazed at how many AC's show up in snowden-related threads.
You are amazed that people who choose to remain anonymous take a great interest in Snowden and/or other mass surveillance related subjects?
It made me smirk. I hope you realize that you don't need any conspiracy theory see why people are the ones commenting on Snowden.
Look at the responses to any post that dares to impugn Snowden. Up above you'll see a very reasonable posts modded -1 Troll or Flamebait and responses like:
Don't be a fucking retard,
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Why don't you two douches get a room, hmm??
It's pretty obvious who is trying to shout down voices they don't want heard.
Reasonable? That post was a textbook example of FUD.
No real content, just enough language usage to seed doubt.
Now if you read the entire "fucking retard" post it continues with a very reasonable counterargument: If Snowden is just looking out for himself, why didn't he just mind his own business? His current situation isn't better than what he had before.
Alleged public disinterest in the Snowden revelations and their consequences is misreported and misunderstood. I've only ever seen such claims in forums like /. where people can easily post under multiple handles in an attempt to misrepresent their numbers. The international special meetings amongst heads of state (including Chancellor Merkel's self-centered caring about spying involving her equipment), the rush to encrypt things in internal networks (and to publicize such encryption) and user-facing products, and the fear of being seen as indifferent to spying (Apple, Google, and Microsoft have all recently participated in this, one corporate PR "story" from Microsoft was repeated close to this story on /.) are clear counterexamples to the allegation that people don't care. If people were genuinely as indifferent as claimed there would be no point in being seen to care about user's privacy. But I think Glenn Greenwald said it best:
Digital Citizen
Like /.ers worth being maniplated.
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Hop!
In these iPhone stories, I often miss the notion that a 5c is more vulnerable than a 5s-and-later.
Ever since the whole snowden thing happened, I've been amazed at how many AC's show up in snowden-related threads. Its really interesting, almost like theres some kind of infowar going on.
The article was posted yesterday evening and is still halfway down the front page, here are only 55 posts right now.
Just maybe, people don't really give a crap about it and you are looking for conspiracy theories.
There won't even be 100 posts on the thread by tomorrow I bet. There's no conspiracy morons, people just don't like this garbage.
Oh noes I made a claim people are disinterested in teh snowdens! I also increased the post count by one, so check again tomorrow. People really aren't into it man.
If you read the entire "Exactly" post you would see that it differentiates between what he did three years ago and what he's doing lately.
Initially I was leading toward him mostly doing what he thought was right however I thought he did it the wrong way. But lately he is just being a self promoter.
Shut up AC, you're just hoping some of the relevance will rub off on you.
So you claim that sometime a couple of years ago, you saw that in April of 2016 he would obviously be tweeting about privacy to teenaged girls and collaborating with Jean-Michel Jarre?
Unlike him, you won't be killed the moment you become irrelevant.
On the contrary, If there were no interest then we wouldn't be seeing hoards of ACs desperately posting that there is no interest. :-)
Clearly someone is dead worried that the worldwide concern shows no sign of abating.
He should do a Christmas album. Like Jim Nabors or Shatner. If he covered some Johnny Cash songs that would be cool.
On the contrary, If there were no interest then we wouldn't be seeing hoards of ACs desperately posting that there is no interest. :-)
Clearly someone is dead worried that the worldwide concern shows no sign of abating.
That makes zero sense. What does make sense is posting in these types of threads are a quick way for anyone on any side to get -5 trollbait, so... duh.
Just came back to point out "Keurig Spends 10 Years Developing A Recyclable Coffee Cup" up four hours ago has 94 posts last time I refreshed the front page.
Obviously k-cups are a conspiracy to distract people from bigger problems.
Ever since the whole snowden thing happened, I've been amazed at how many AC's show up in snowden-related threads. Its really interesting, almost like theres some kind of infowar going on.
My fourth AC post on this page today, because I think Snowden fans are fun to pick on if you want me to be honest about it, and why would I burn karma on that?
Just pointing out to you and the only other special snowflake that got moderated over a 3, that more people are interested in recyclable k-kups than this.
Jet powered hover boards, new Android releases, and Boaty McBoatFace on the front page were also obviously planted by the FBI, or NSA, or maybe even Karl Rove himself to quickly bury this important article on such an influential new source.
Browse at -1.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
because I think Snowden fans are fun to pick on if you want me to be honest about it
I guess a 'snowden fan' is anyone not presently choking on uncle sam's dick eh? lol
least you get a kick out of yourself. i bet you think you're a real hoot.
I'm glad it annoys you enough to get you to comment. Here's to more.
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