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NASA Hackathon Expected to Draw Over 15,000 Coders (fastcompany.com)

Saturday NASA began live-streaming footage of their "Space Apps Challenge" hackathon, which they're describing as one of the largest hackathons on earth. "Together, citizens like you have developed thousands of open-source solutions," says the event's site, while Fast Company reports that last year 14,264 people gathered in 133 locations to create apps using NASA's trove of open data. Last year's largest local app hackathon was started by two women in Cairo, drawing 700 participants, and this year NASA is trying to increase participation by female coders. NASA's open innovation project manager tells FastCompany that women "are looking for signals that they will be in a safe space where they feel like they belong," noting that 80% of last year's participants were men.

46 comments

  1. Aren't hackers criminals? by NotInHere · · Score: 0

    Yet another proof that the NASA funds crime.

  2. Gee wiz Wally... by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    ...women "are looking for signals that they will be in a safe space where they feel like they belong," noting that 80% of last year's participants were men.

    (-1)(This is a real concern for me and most of /.)

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  3. Things were looking so good. Now disappointment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After Dice sold the site, things were really looking up. There was a brief period of time when the stories were relevant, the political submissions were kept to a minimum, and we weren't subjected to social justice nonsense. I'm disappointed by how quickly things have regressed. There have been numerous purely political submissions on the front page that have nothing to do with science, technology, math, computing, and subjects that are relevant here. And now with this submission we're subjected to more social justice shenanigans.

    I had so much hope! I really thought things were going to get better here. But now I'm really starting to think I was wrong. We're getting the same kind of shitty submissions on the front page that we got during the recent dark period. Politics and social justice aren't Slashdot's niche, and never will be. Please, let's go back to articles about science, technology, math, computing, and good stuff like that, without the overt and unnecessary political focus!

  4. 15,000 coders by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    And a half-dozen confused sword-carrying nerds.

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    1. Re:15,000 coders by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, with 14k participants, it doesn't sound like anywhere a good hacker will want to go. I think this might more be a lan party / science fair for kids to increase PR and future followers.

      I don't see any of these participants injecting a goatse into the New Horizon picture stream or waking up Pioneer 6/7/8 for fun.

    2. Re: 15,000 coders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it. 15,000 people standing on one another's heads will only get to about 16 miles. That's nowhere near Space. What are they _really_ trying to accomplish?

  5. Jesus Fucking Christ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of this sounds fucking awesome right up until

    women "are looking for signals that they will be in a safe space where they feel like they belong"

    And this is defined how, exactly? A competition where no men are allowed? A room full of women only? And what about trans women, are they welcome?

    NASA is supposed to be looking for signals, but SETI != Search for Estrogen Tech Inductees.

    1. Re:Jesus Fucking Christ by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      When I worked at Intel, one of our junior programmers joked about trying to hire a cute blond programmer when he was interviewing recruits, which a female contractor immediately started whining about being sexist. Of course, she was the one who was (literally) sleeping with her boss from the contracting firm, who also worked with us.

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    2. Re:Jesus Fucking Christ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I had the technical know-how to hack in and start streaming porn movies and flying penises..

    3. Re:Jesus Fucking Christ by SirSlud · · Score: 1

      Boy, do I have some good news for you, you've found a useful delusion!

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    4. Re:Jesus Fucking Christ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The remark is sexist. Now, what is wrong with (literally) sleeping with your boss, please, apart from the taste of salt you got that they weren't (literally) sleeping with you?

    5. Re:Jesus Fucking Christ by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      It is wrong if you're getting paid for a job you are quite obviously unqualified for because you are qualified to to a different kind of job on the decision maker. Yes, the remark was sexist, but sleeping with someone for a job does a LOT more damage to women in the workplace than a joke among friends does.

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  6. Safe space? by TroII · · Score: 1

    NASA's open innovation project manager tells FastCompany that women "are looking for signals that they will be in a safe space where they feel like they belong,"

    I'm sorry, is there a demonstrable history of rape and sexual assault taking place at NASA conventions, or is this just yet more SJW feminist nonsense?

    1. Re:Safe space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The latter, obviously.

    2. Re:Safe space? by arth1 · · Score: 2

      It's not so much the "safe space" that makes me roll my eyes here, but the "where they feel they belong".
      It's hacking, not a social club. Hackers don't go to feel they belong. They go to find a challenge in an otherwise challenge free world.

      Showing off a great hack buys you my respect, but doesn't make you my pal. No matter where your dangly bits may be attached.

    3. Re:Safe space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're looking for signals, numbnuts - extra-terrestrials broadcasting messages that there is a planet somewhere in the Universe where women can "feel like they belong".

      Of course, any such message would probably say, "You belong on Earth," but at least you can't accuse an alien of mansplaining.

  7. Safe space... by Chas · · Score: 0, Troll

    Okay. Come right this way. We have a time-locked vault. Nobody will be able to get to you. Just..watch your oxygen consumption, it's airtight.

    Seriously, NASA's the ultimate meritocracy in the geek/nerd/braniac space.

    And while nobody should have to deal with overtly sexist atmosphere, simply having a majority of men == sexism!

    And trying to browbeat them into providing a "safe space" basically is telling us that women are, apparently, unable to compete without some white knight cutting the path for them.

    That's the opposite of equality, meritocracy and the basic feminist message.

    But, it's totally in line with the eternal victimhood narrative of modern feminism.

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    1. Re:Safe space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gender issues? Pah. NASA is behind the times. In 1975 the US Army began recognizing those who sexually identify as Apache Attack Helicopters.

    2. Re:Safe space... by SirSlud · · Score: 2

      > And while nobody should have to deal with overtly sexist atmosphere, simply having a majority of men == sexism!

      Nobody said it was sexism. They just want to have more women participants, full stop. It's numnuts like you who turn everything into some OMG MERITOCRACY IS CRUMBLING AROUND US into places that make people feel it's just not worth dealing with non-well adjusted people.

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    3. Re:Safe space... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      They just want to have more women participants, full stop.

      Arbitrarily dictating equality of results is the wrong way to go about these things. You can only fairly ensure that everyone has equality of opportunity. Otherwise, it's the very definition of sexism, regardless of good intentions.

      That being said, I'd have no problem with putting some effort and care into making sure women are made to feel welcome. I have to admit though, I really dislike the use of the term "safe space", because it implies that these sorts of events are "unsafe" for women by default. It's insulting to anyone who values the contributions and participation of all people regardless of their sex, race, etc and would never tolerating making them feel uncomfortable in any way.

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    4. Re:Safe space... by goldaryn · · Score: 1

      > simply having a majority of men == sexism!

      Traceback (most recent call last):
      TypeError: unsupported sarcasm

      Don't worry, I'll get one of the gals to fix your code

    5. Re: Safe space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, at two extremes: no men is definitely == not sexism. 14,999 men + one coder girl almost == almost certainly > 1 creeper dbag who will make her never want to go to such an event ever ever again in her life. So, I think it's safe to say that in a space this large with mostly men, someone will be made to feel very uncomfortable and threatened at some point. Nobody is beating your brow, sir, it is merely a plea (and from your tone, I deeply suspect that you, personally, were the target of said plea), to bury your true self deep deep down and to not run off all the ladies by being your creepy self.

    6. Re:Safe space... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Nobody said it was sexism"

      Yet the original blurb was talking about "are looking for signals that they will be in a safe space where they feel like they belong,"

      That's pretty much talking about "special treatment", not EQUAL treatment.

      QED, sexism.

    7. Re:Safe space... by Chas · · Score: 1

      Wow, I wasn't rabidly and thoughtlessly in complete support of special treatment for women in a meritocratic setting!

      So I got marked a troll!

      QUE SURPRISE!

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  8. For real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How the hell does a coding competition by NASA on scientifically relevant data fit in a pattern of stories which allegedly "have nothing to do with science, technology, math, computing"?

    I know as AC they will never see my response, but anyone who read parent's comment and was in agreement needs to check their logic and be less blinkered by counter-ideology.

    1. Re:For real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the AC you responded to was talking about the Fast Company article. It is all about what women want at a hackathon, and it was completely uninteresting to me. It was tiresome just skimming it. I swear the muscles used to roll my eyes got a decent workout in that short parse. The other two links seemed like stilts to prop it up on to justify the article being here at all. I came to comments to see if anyone else complained about the story. Imagine my lack of surprise.

      I agree with your AC that Slashdot is getting tiresome. I'd prefer this site focus purely on sci/tech, but it will like continue to pander to the political whims of those in control of it. It may be their right, but it does have an effect on the affinity older users might have for this site.

  9. Western Phenomenon by Noble713 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All this talk of "safe spaces" for women....

    Late last year I spent a month on an exchange program with a university engineering department in Hanoi. I never saw any indications that the women there (who were also more numerous than I encountered in US/Japanese engineering departments) were begging for "safe spaces". In general the women I met were the most well-adjusted, entrepreneurial, and self-sufficient I've ever met.

    Strange that this "Communist" country, and one with very traditional, masculine men at that, seems to not suffer from the same societal poisons in STEM as the West.

    1. Re:Western Phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Western masculine man is nearly extinct. "Revenge of the Nerds" is no longer just an historical account of an underdog fraternity, but a grim presaging of things to come.

    2. Re:Western Phenomenon by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So women felt safe at a place where the female:male ratio was better? News at 11 you say?

    3. Re:Western Phenomenon by Noble713 · · Score: 1

      To clarify: better than what I've seen in the West, but still lower than the "80% male" ratio mentioned in TFS as not being a sufficiently safe space.

    4. Re:Western Phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually most professional women HATE working with other women. My wife cant stand working in a "hen house" as she puts it.

      She said men are far more predictable and therefore easy to manage and guide to where they need to be or do.

    5. Re:Western Phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically what they are looking for is an environment where females have less accountability and lowered standards and requirements, as any challenge to a female is "felt" as an attack to all of them. You will see how their demains and complaints are always based on feelings, which obviously are impossible to objectively measure

      Then men usually leave that field.

  10. so much for meritocracy by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    limited, 'safe', 'just' (as in 'fair' and equal), static, VS unlimited, 'dangerous' , 'just' (as in meritocratic), dynamic.

    1. Re:so much for meritocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Universal Basic Income, in case they still don't make it.

  11. Nasa is no longer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... In the business of space. They are out of space shuttles.

  12. I love missile command! ^^ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So someone smuggled a device to kin colorful land, it infected some shit and the power forces had to join hands to defeat the scheme. toy boy didn't liked it, theeeeeen whiz fixed eeeeeeverything. i nedd money whiz. c'mon man. I heard about the 1000 roman soldiers. is that false? really? tell me about it. they burned the books damn it. there's mind control. there's mind erasing. they took out my cloaking device. so keep torturing them I say. the cross and that big bang toy. meh. just let me play with codes already. it's what I do man. c'mon.

  13. Pareto Rules? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... noting that 80% of last year's participants were men ...

    Dunno why, everywhere I go, from USA to Africa to China and places in between, the ratio of male to female coders follows closely to the Pareto rule

    It's always 20+% female with the rest male

    Even in China where the girls are not being told that they are not suitable for tech stuffs (them Chinese don't have the same Puritanism ideology we have) their ratio of girls getting into tech / engineering field still stuck at 20+%

    1. Re:Pareto Rules? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same with ham radio/electronics in all countries. For the last hundred years. It's consistent. Governments keep records on these things (you need a license).

    2. Re:Pareto Rules? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And 15 of those 20 percent are men who wear dresses and claim to be women now.

  14. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Make my breakfast just once and I'm yours forever" - God.

    The circus ended! \o/ I'm so happy. :)

  15. Well... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    "Mar's ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell." It's not a "safe place". Neither is the surface of the Moon, nor being in orbit inside a tin can. If you need to be in a "safe place" then space exploration probably isn't for you.

    1. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. The novel SEVENEVES comes to mind. It's a great read. Can you hear me, Major Tom? -PCP

  16. That's it, the nerds have left. by spauldo · · Score: 1

    So, I followed the link to the data, looked around a bit, and decided to see if I could get ahold of a decently large and interesting dataset that I could play with. I've been messing around with Fortran and OpenMP, and this sounded interesting.

    So I go to the website, and it's... bad. Slow as fuck, no browsability (just searching through large categories), back button doesn't work right... it might be all right if you know exactly what you're looking for, but there's no discoverability there.

    So I came here and it's nothing but asshats talking about their insecurities over gender issues.

    Guess this place really is dead now.

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