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Project Ara Lives: Google's Modular Smartphones Coming To Developers This Fall (recode.net)

Finally, there's some update on Project Ara, an open hardware platform for creating highly modular smartphones. Google announced on Friday that a test version of the modular smartphone will be released to developers in the fourth quarter. Google, which owns Project Ara, added that a thinner version of the phone will be made available to consumers next year. Recode, reports: The revamped Project Ara design puts the core phone technology together in the phone's frame, with room for six interchangeable module slots. Modules can also be inserted and ejected while the phone is running, Google said. Onstage Friday at its I/O developer conference, Google demonstrated a camera module, taking a picture of the session discussing Ara. It also talked about other modules, including one to allow diabetics to monitor their blood glucose. Google said it made enough progress with Ara that it is spinning it out of its advanced projects team and into its own business unit.

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  1. Hopefully built in America by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    If they will build it in America, my gut feeling says that the military will start buying these in large quantities.

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    1. Re:Hopefully built in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they will build it in America...

      The intent is that the modules will be interchangeable, so you could choose to purchase modules only built in the US, or ones built in your own country/region.

    2. Re:Hopefully built in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope so, then they will be too busy on their hands and knees looking for the plastic bits that fell off rather than invading the rest of the world :)

    3. Re:Hopefully built in America by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      It'll be Foxconn, but here on Slashdot that's really only interesting if it's Apple.

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  2. Screen? by Bradmont · · Score: 1

    So does this mean the screen isn't replaceable? Swapping a broken screen was the biggest sell of the whole modular phone idea for me...

    1. Re:Screen? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      So does this mean the screen isn't replaceable? Swapping a broken screen was the biggest sell of the whole modular phone idea for me...

      If you look at the pictures in the article you would notice that there are different sized screens indicating an ability not only to change/replace screens but to have different sizes depending on what you are doing at the time.

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    2. Re:Screen? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      What makes you say that?

      According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Each slot on the frame will accept any module of the correct size. The front slots are of various heights and take up the whole width of the frame. The rear slots come in standard sizes of 1×1, 1×2 and 2×2

      That sounds like the screen(s) will be hot-swappable modules that won't necessarily cover the entire front of the device, and there's perhaps the possibility of multiple screens as well. It sounds like even the CPU(and integrated backup battery) will be a module, with the frame being just a structural component and power/data bus to tie everything together - not completely unlike an empty PC case.

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    3. Re:Screen? by Bradmont · · Score: 1

      That picture is a couple of years old, from when the plan was to make every component swappable. Today's announcement is a significant departure from this philosophy.

    4. Re:Screen? by Bradmont · · Score: 1

      That was the plan until today's announcement...

    5. Re:Screen? by Immerman · · Score: 2

      Okay, I think you're right - the article was a little non-informative, but the actual project ara page (https://atap.google.com/ara/) contains the blurb

      The Ara frame contains all the functionality of a smartphone plus six flexible slots for easy swapping.

      Which does suggest that at least touchscreen, radio, and CPU are integrated. Possibly the battery as well.

      That's a shame, though I suppose it shouldn't be a huge surprise - the screen is the single largest and most fragile component of the phone, makes sense to integrate it into the rigid frame for added durability. It would be nice if they at least left the CPU as a more tightly-integrated module, even if you need to remove a bunch of screws to replace it. I mean screen + CPU is most of the cost of the phone - permanently integrate them both into the frame and you gut the upgradeability that was the core appeal, and the modules just become novelty stuff. I mean how many people are really going to want several different "extras" on their phone?

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    6. Re:Screen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Ara frame contains the CPU, GPU, antennas, sensors, battery and display, freeing up more room for hardware in each module. We are looking to module makers to create technology never before seen on smartphones.

      Yep, looks like Project Ara is officially dead, now. In its place stands a giant cockroach in a brand new Ara suit.

    7. Re:Screen? by publiclurker · · Score: 1

      Even if you can't replace the screen, being able to keep all of the other parts should make replacing a phone with a broken screen cheaper.

  3. Intriguing by liqu1d · · Score: 1

    They've managed to work around the issue of running android without a CPU plugged in.

    1. Re:Intriguing by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Smartass? Or did you see something I didn't? With a backup battery integrated into the CPU module it seems more likely that Android would keep happily running on the unplugged CPU module while the rest of the phone went dead. Not unlike unplugging everything but power from a desktop PC.

      On a related note, I wonder if they have (or are planning to) allow for multiple CPU modules on the same frame. Might have some interesting potential - bare minimum CPU for normal stuff, powers up and transfers control to a much more powerful CPU when you want to run more demanding apps? And I suppose there's a mandatory "Beowolf cluster in your pants" joke in there somewhere.

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  4. Newsflash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With 3D printing, I can just download and print any kind of phone I want at home. Duh. Luddites.

  5. Not Thinner. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear Google Thinner is STUPID. make it the same thickness but with more battery. make that sucker go 3 days easily without the need to charge. 5 days if you want to be epic

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    1. Re:Not Thinner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just remove all the important bits, like processor, ram, storage, camera, radios; and fit in six battery modules instead. epic battery life. problem solved. oh? you wanted something that works? skip the 'smart' and get a regular (aka 'feature') phone. those can go a week or two (or more) between charges, and can still make and take calls, text, take pictures, play media, check email and hit the mobile web.

    2. Re:Not Thinner. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      It's called a battery case, it's great because you can choose if you want thin or battery. My battery case, for example, has a USB port so I can charge other stuff with it.

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    3. Re:Not Thinner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, put a bigger battery in and make it go 3 days without a charge. You know, just like the GP said. It's bizarre how people think you have to have crappy battery life with a smart phone. Like it's some law. This is where the 'thinner is better' concept comes from. And the idiotic response is to get a non-smart phone.

    4. Re:Not Thinner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, While I like the idea of a modular phone, Android is garbage.

      What should be happening is that each piece have it's own eeprom that provides the driver (eg like boot roms) and any "OS"/CPU module should be able to to just run the firmware blob and get all the features. If someone wants to hack that firmware to get more out of it, have at it.

      What I'd rather have is a smartphone platform where the screen/touch-screen is one part, the CPU+RAM is another, the storage is yet another, and the Battery is the "back cover", the camera, speakers and microphone would be on the "wireless" option board that makes up the bottom and top of the phone.

      So basically think of a 3-layer sandwich with the top (where the ear piece, front and back camera) and the bottom (the microphone/touch id), and 3 layers deep, where the screen, PCB's, and Battery make up those layers respectively. If you want to make it a 4 layers deep, you'd opt not to have the tiny camera option since the thicker back would obstruct the tiny camera. You would rather opt for the the DSLR "back" and a battery "layer" instead of a back. Or you could combine the battery layer with the battery back and get twice as much battery capacity. If you need a super-battery, you could put 5 battery layers in, but that would probably be overkill, since it would make more sense to have a "hotswap" battery layer instead.

    5. Re:Not Thinner. by Dracos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      THIS. The industry needs to hyping thinness as a virtue: it brings less battery capacity, weaker chassis, and compromised usability (because less edge is less grip area).

      And still no full QWERTY keyboard that I can find among the modules.... no sale.

    6. Re:Not Thinner. by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Thank Apple and Jobs. They won't be happy until you can shave with your phone.

    7. Re: Not Thinner. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason thinner is better is because you cannot make the phone thinner after the fact, but you can add battery life to it via third-party addons. This is even true with phones that have an integrated battery.

      I'll never understand this hostilty towards thin phones. They open doors, not close them.

  6. Lego Phone: Everything is awesome by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    Everything is cool when you're part of a team

  7. so now its just a phone... by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    So now its just a phone and not the full DIY kit that was promised. Basically six slots with probably six options, and you can just elect to skip things like NFC to save money. At least that is what it smells like. I'd love to be wrong by them offering like 8 different wlan chips or something.

    1. Re:so now its just a phone... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I'd love to be wrong by them offering like 8 different wlan chips or something.

      What's the benefit of 8 different wlan chips? Developing in the fragmented Android market is hard enough.

      I view these as PCIe style extensions, for things beyond what a normal smartphone does.

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  8. Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All Project Ara articles should remind the reader that Google isn't serious about making a phone like this for consumers. This is evident by their position that putting user removable batteries and microSD cards in Nexus phones would be too complicated for consumers.

    1. Re: Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um... iPhone?

  9. Wrong way by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The military desires more, not less, durable items.

    What the military really needs is specialized cases that offer additional capabilities in conjunction with already durable smartphones.

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  10. Can this phone make my butt smaller? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    N/A

  11. lego-tricorder? by happyjack27 · · Score: 1

    This isn't a phone, it's a Tricorder made out of Legos.

  12. Lego Phone: Everything Is Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very Nice..

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  13. Not really modular anymore by cerealito · · Score: 1

    "Most of the modular promises have been toned down—now all the "base components" of a smartphone are built into the Ara body, just like a normal smartphone. The Ara body contains a fixed CPU, GPU, antennas, sensors, battery, and display. " http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...

    1. Re: Not really modular anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck kind of modular phone doesn't have a removable battery?!?

  14. TFA Is Written by an Idiot by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

    "Of course, people stopped upgrading and customizing PCs about a decade ago."

    I'd upgrade every three years if I could afford it, you stupid ass. As it is, I still manage every five or six. How does somebody who cares so little about computers manage to get a job writing articles about them?

  15. Modular, but no longer upgradeable by NimbleSquirrel · · Score: 1

    This article misses the critical point that the Project Ara phones will no longer be upgradeable.

    From the Project Ara website: "The Ara frame contains the CPU, GPU, antennas, sensors, battery and display..."

    The whole concept behind Phonebloks, which grew into Project Ara, was that everything was to be upgradeable. When a new CPU came out, you could just upgrade the module. If you wanted better gaming performance, you could drop in a better GPU module. If you needed a larger battery, or if the current battery performance was poor, you could swap it out. If you wanted a better display, you could just upgrade the module. The idea was to create an ecosystem when you didn't have to replace the whole phone if a new upgrade came out.

    Yes, the new Project Ara is modular, but only to the point of secondary functions. Key functionality (ie. Display, CPU/GPU, battery and cellular) is not modular, and therefore not upgradeable. This goes completely against the original concept of Phonebloks and Project Ara.

  16. A company wants to stick pedestrians to car hoods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A company wants to stick pedestrians to car hoods, now gives us a mobile phone that falls to bits BY DESIGN.

    Seriously, you can either be a HOOD BADGE for Google Self Driving Cards or be on your knees looking for that bit that fell off or stand on a bit of mobile phone LEGO (worst pain in the world).

  17. How about a QWERTY keyboard? by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Not everything can be done by Swype.

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