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Microsoft Finds Legal Path To Launch Minecraft In China (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Minecraft's PC and smartphone versions are finally coming to China. On Friday, Microsoft and Mojang announced the beginning of a "five-year exclusive partnership" with Chinese software publisher NetEase, Inc to roll the game out onto Chinese computer and smartphone marketplaces. Microsoft was able to publish the game on Xbox One consoles late last year, but those consoles have yet to penetrate the Chinese market to the extent that PCs and smartphones have, and the fact that even Microsoft had to license the game to someone else as opposed to launching it from its own Shanghai campus is a stern reminder of what roadblocks stand in the way of Western software developers. "The most challenging aspect of doing business in China by far is dealing with the government," former PopCap executive James Gwertzman said at the 2010 Game Developers Conference. Game publishers must acquire a combined six permits to launch a game in China, and most of those permits cannot be acquired by foreign-operated companies. Microsoft is presumably in the exact same regulatory boat, and its choice of partner is telling; NetEase already has a major Western-gaming reputation thanks to its partnership with megawatt game makers Blizzard. Gwertzman guessed that Minecraft will probably avoid such undue attention with its upcoming launch. "Minecraft is on the good side as it encourages teamwork and learning," he said. "I see Minecraft as the perfect example of a game that will receive public support [in China]." Meanwhile, American technology companies like Apple and Microsoft are undergoing security reviews in the communist country.

91 comments

  1. Microsoft is for cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    You are all blocky cows from sweden. Blocky cows say Mooooo! Moooo say the blocky cows. Moooo!

    1. Re:Microsoft is for cows by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Blocky cows say Mooooo!

      Brother! Where you been? Slashdot's not the same without you.

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    2. Re: Microsoft is for cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got stuck in the goatse.cx guy's ass. I was forced in there and then got trapped behind a greased up Yoda doll. Oh man, it was quite an ordeal.

  2. who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    minecraft sucks, even doom2 has better graphics, and was also multiplayer (up to 4)
    >> from 20 years ago

    1. Re:who freaking cares by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Informative

      You don't know WTF you are talking about. You're comparing Apples and Oranges.

      1. Doom static world
      2. Minecraft dynamic world

      Minecraft can be summed up in 2 words: Digital Lego

      Let me know the last time you could, in-game build structures like Minas Tirith, Hogwart's Castle, etc.

      Yes, we all know Minecraft looks like shit. That isn't the point. Repeat after me: user generated content

    2. Re: who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did Doom have an almost completely editable game world? I mean, to each their own, but you are comparing apples to oranges.

    3. Re: who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re: who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boring. That's an external editor. Doom is a tiny closed 'world' game.

      Minecraft is open world.

    5. Re: who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get your point, but people have been creating their own Doom 'worlds' for decades now.

    6. Re:who freaking cares by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Let me know the last time you could, in-game build structures like Minas Tirith, Hogwart's Castle, etc.

      Cube

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    7. Re: who freaking cares by hercludes · · Score: 1

      Choosing a WAD Editor

      A tool that the general public either does not know how to use or could not spare the interest/time to learn how to use. A game that the general public could find intuitive and start creating things in the matter of a few minutes while simultaneously playing the game. How is this anything but apples and oranges as parent post states?

    8. Re:who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dwarf fortress comes to mind

    9. Re:who freaking cares by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      dwarf fortress comes to mind

      Yes and Infiniminer, obviously. Notch's motivation for building Minecraft was that Infiniminer wasn't quite fun enough.

      http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2...

    10. Re: who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obvious troll is obvious.

    11. Re:who freaking cares by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Indeed! Zach was a total gentleman about it too.

      * http://www.wired.com/2013/11/m...

      "The act of borrowing ideas is integral to the creative process. There are games that came before Infiniminer, and there are games that will come after MineCraft. That's how it works."
      - Zach Barth, creator of Inifiniminer

    12. Re: who freaking cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's all opinion.

      The fact is that players can make Doom WADs and players can play minecraft. How is that so hard to understand?

      Shit, by your comparison, computers aren't programmable because the general population don't "spare the interest/time to learn how".

  3. Nothing Matters; Except for the Almighty Dollar by negRo_slim · · Score: 2

    Heaven forbid you forgo a regressive market or *gasp* hold on to any shred of values as a large organization in the way and places you choose to do business.

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    1. Re:Nothing Matters; Except for the Almighty Dollar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they do that they get sued by their own shareholders. You want to fix the US corporate structure, you best buy some laws that will forbid shareholders from suing the company they have shares in if it can be shown that the business was acting in the best interests of human rights or environmental concerns.

      Right now, as shown by court cases, if a corporation does ANYTHING but put shareholders profits first then they can be sued. This basically includes shady/immoral/potentially-illegal actions - if they think they can get away with it. (but figure they'll make more than they'll lose even if they're caught.)

  4. Tell that to Huawei by hmcbbs · · Score: 2

    If only Huawei allowed to partner up with a US company to sell router/switch/LTE here in the US. Talk about government...

    1. Re:Tell that to Huawei by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think the reason for that is that this kind of gear is critical infrastructure gear, and Huawei, like any Chinese company, is ultimately beholden to the demands of their government. Other countries avoid Cisco for a slightly different reason. Cisco isn't beholden to the US government, however the problem is that their gear ships from the US, which means that there's nothing stopping the US government from adulterating it some time between when it leaves Cisco's hands and ends up in its customer's hands, and even though they're technically not allowed to do that, they do it anyways.

    2. Re:Tell that to Huawei by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Cisco is beholden to the US government, and doesn't ship from the US. My SG made Cisco gear never passes through the US. Huawei has never had a vulnerability found that didn't come from copying Cisco. It's Cisco that deliberately puts them there.

    3. Re:Tell that to Huawei by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cisco isn't beholden to the US government

      Cute.

    4. Re:Tell that to Huawei by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Slap on a troll face on the dollar bill and change the text to "In the government we trust."

    5. Re:Tell that to Huawei by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Cisco is beholden to the US government

      No, they're not, they're just beholden to US laws. They can however refuse most requests if they want, and even challenge the ones that are legally made. Chinese owned companies will ultimately have to do anything that the government asks.

      , and doesn't ship from the US. My SG made Cisco gear never passes through the US.

      I didn't say all equipment does, rather what was meant by my comment is that so far it's only the gear that is shipped from the US that has been known to have been compromised.

      Huawei has never had a vulnerability found

      Neither did Cisco, until Snowden leaked it, and if that didn't happen then we'd still probably remain unaware of it to this day. And even then, there isn't any evidence that Cisco was even aware of it happening.

    6. Re:Tell that to Huawei by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Cisco has been proven to have done all the bad things people say Huawei "might" do, yet still buy Cisco and avoid Huawei. Seems silly.

    7. Re:Tell that to Huawei by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Huawei has never had a vulnerability found that didn't come from copying Cisco."

      Are you trying to say that Huawei some how magically created vulnerability free code that no company in the history of computing was able to produce, or every single line of code written by Huawei was copied from Cisco?

    8. Re:Tell that to Huawei by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Nope. I didn't say that at all. Next time, try reading, rather than vomiting a response before looking closely.

  5. Not sure why, but by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

    Somehow this sounds bad....

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  6. Why craft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everybody knows triangles are better then cubes..

    1. Re:Why craft? by hercludes · · Score: 1

      Everybody knows triangles are better then cubes..

      Think of it as two triangles? :)

  7. Could have fooled me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Judging by how involved the Chinese are in the Minecraft modding scene not only has Minecraft been launched in China it has been there for years. Don't believe me? Search Github for zh_CN Minecraft pull requests.

  8. It's protectionism by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Informative

    Somehow this sounds bad....

    It's because China is using a protectionist practice.

    China wants domestic companies selling things domestically(*). If an outside company has a product it wants to sell, it has to license it to a domestically-owned company inside China.

    This forces at least some of the money to stay in China, paying Chinese people, and otherwise helping the local economy. It reduces the trade deficit somewhat and makes the Chinese economy stronger.

    Compare and contrast to modern American economics, which holds that "free trade is best trade", all the money from the sale of foreign goods and products goes to the foreign entity. The money leaves the country and no Americans get paid.

    (*) I was under the impression that the rule was that a Chinese company had to be at least 51% owned by Chinese in order to sell domestically, but that was years ago. I don't know if this is still the case.

    1. Re:It's protectionism by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      China still has rules about ownership. So rather than putting ownership in the hands of Chinese, foreign companies license. Less profit, but greater chance for future profits, if the rules change.

    2. Re:It's protectionism by JBMcB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's because China is using a protectionist practice.

      Western scholars figured out the problem with this practice hundreds of years ago. Problem is - it screws with your money supply something fierce. You end up having to radically manipulate your money supply, and you wind up with deflation and endless stimulus spending. Japan did the same thing in the 70's and 80's, and they've been paying for it over the last two decades (stagflation in the 90's-2000's, deflation since then.) China's turn is coming up soon.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    3. Re: It's protectionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is returning to being a neo-Maoist state. They have now moderized and can return to being 'socialist with Chinese characteristics.'

    4. Re:It's protectionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The US uses protectionist practices in a whole range of markets.

    5. Re:It's protectionism by bloodhawk · · Score: 2

      The US also practises protectionism in many markets with tariffs and subsidies. Including many current cases which are before the WTO.

    6. Re:It's protectionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is doing it so they have someone(/thing) to hold accountable if the company doesn't follow the rules. Especially censorship. They can hardly sue American companies, and a quick corporate shell game means an extremely similar company will just spring up to replace the one you just banned.

  9. Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yet again. I guess being able to hire cheap Chinese workers is more important to them than what is right.

    1. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've been telling us for over a year that they're firing us and moving our team to China. Since I still work here, I guess their plan hasn't worked nearly as well as they thought it would.

    2. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've been telling us for over a year that they're firing us and moving our team to China. Since I still work here, I guess their plan hasn't worked nearly as well as they thought it would.

      Windows build team? I'm on that and make crap for pay. We've been threatened with the move to China for over a year, but it hasn't happened. Given the fact that even Microsoft can't find competent people, it's just an idle threat to try to justify keeping our pay so low.

    3. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. They keep hiring people in China, but the people I deal with are usually gone in less than two weeks. Microsoft just uses it as an excuse to keep pay low.

    4. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Microsoft keeps threatening us with offshoring our jobs, but the people they had me phone screen were terrible.

    5. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean degrees from fake colleges don't mean anything? I'm shocked.

    6. Re:Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yet again. I guess being able to hire cheap Chinese workers is more important to them than what is right.

      But with how little they pay us in Redmond, there's no reason to offshore. It's sad how many of my coworkers have degrees from good colleges and more than a decade of experience, but still have to have roommates and ride the bus.

    7. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you work there another 35 years, you'll be able to ride the light rail to work.

    8. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Microsoft keeps threatening us with offshoring our jobs, but the people they had me phone screen were terrible.

      You should definitely say hire to those guys. When they don't work-out, you'll have good leverage for a raise. That's what I learned from part of the SharePoint team that seemed strangely excited about offshoring when in reality they were working behind the scenes to tank the plan.

    9. Re:Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But with how little they pay us in Redmond

      So isn't it time to make a point of finding a better paying job, even if that job is in another field entirely? Make looking for a better job the only thing you do outside of work until you find one. If it turns out that serving coffee pays better than whatever you're doing now, then serve coffee. You have to be mercenary in your approach to employment because employers are mercenary in their approach to employees.

    10. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After interviewing more than six hundred Java devs with degrees from universities in India, this. They're terrible.

    11. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife works for HR at Microsoft, and she confirmed the average contractor doesn't make much more than that, so I believe you. You just can't get good people, especially in the Seattle area, for that little.

    12. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least us contractors get free Pro Spots Club memberships...oh wait. We don't.

    13. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't get quality tech employees at that price anywhere in the US. No wonder Microsoft has such quality problems.

    14. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's important to always have something to look forward to, and Microsoft just doesn't seem to get that.

    15. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you work there another 35 years, you'll be able to ride the light rail to work.

      Funny, but very sad. The people of Seattle have always stood against mass transit. In 1970, we had a chance to have a world-class transit system, but Seattle voted to give that money to Atlanta instead. The “Forward Thrust” initiative was voted down completely. Now, I spend nearly three hours a day on buses or waiting on buses to get work work at Microsoft.

    16. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forgiveness is a virtue. I should forgive Microsoft for what they did to my team, but I never will.

    17. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The execs here do anything they think they can get away with the that doesn't end up with them in jail. Already had two bosses charged with rape.

    18. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worked here nineteen years, and they have always threatened to offshore our team. It's just idle threats to try to get us to work harder.

    19. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean degrees from fake colleges don't mean anything? I'm shocked.

      And with "degrees" that you can't verify.

    20. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The low pay destroys families and having Microsoft in your resume just doesn't mean what it used to.

    21. Re: Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having worked with several Microsoft people I can vouch that it means the same as having worked in the Public Service on your resume: check excessively that this person says what they are, can do what they say they can do and if they ever lie or even smudge the truth an iota then do not hire then. Preferably have them on a 3 month contract to start BEFORE they can become a permanent member of staff. Flush them fast if any bullshit is detected.

    22. Re:Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Where's the communism in China? It only lives on in the name of the party, and nowhere else.

    23. Re:Sad to see Microsoft support Communism... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      And in Seattle I can't get Internet access higher than 14kbps and it is the Republicans fault. Am I doing it right????

  10. Why would this be a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft is bad, remember? The software is probably loaded up with vulnerabilities and nags to install Windows 10. Microsoft releasing new software is a bad thing. A very bad thing.

  11. Porn cows from China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... You are all blocky cows from sweden. Blocky cows say Mooooo! Moooo say the blocky cows. Moooo!

    ... in China they have porn cown, instead of Moooooo! Moooooo! they say 'flai lais, flai lais, flaaaiiiiiii laaaiiiiis!!!'

    But seriously, porn are available all over China's internet

  12. Minecraft is 'open'?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Minecraft is open world ...

    BULLSHIT !!

    If Minecraft is open, how come there is no open-source alternative and/or some kind of 'fork branch' of the Minecraft platform?

    How come Minecraft ends up owned by and locked up by Microsoft?

    1. Re: Minecraft is 'open'?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you really not know the difference between "open world" and "open source"?

      By your logic Linux isn't open because there is no 3D landscape lacking a fixed plot story line.

      Now do you see how regarded you sound?

    2. Re: Minecraft is 'open'?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to try minetest. Its LGPL and has a rich modding community. Beware, it has no network compatibility with minecraft, which can be seen as something good or bad.

  13. It took a long time... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    to craft the tool necessary to dig through that firewall.

  14. Can you explain something to me? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's because China is using a protectionist practice.

    Western scholars figured out the problem with this practice hundreds of years ago. Problem is - it screws with your money supply something fierce. You end up having to radically manipulate your money supply, and you wind up with deflation and endless stimulus spending. Japan did the same thing in the 70's and 80's, and they've been paying for it over the last two decades (stagflation in the 90's-2000's, deflation since then.) China's turn is coming up soon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    I'm happy to learn more about this, but I am a bit sceptical about your conclusions. (Not the least of which is the general religious undertone of economic schools of thought.)

    Firstly, the US is mostly free trade, and yet we've had to do stimulus spending for the last six-or-seven years. I don't really see the difference on that dimension.

    Secondly, although the US isn't in a deflation cycle, we *almost* are. Checking the monthly inflation rates shows negative inflation for several months of 2015, and fairly low inflation for the last couple of years. Despite massive stimulus spending, despite the government spending trillions more than revenue over the last decade, we're *still* not up to the generally-accepted-healthy value of inflation of 2.5%.

    There's recent evidence that depression and deflation aren't empirically linked, so it's no longer clear to me that deflation is as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

    And finally, your analysis may be correct but myopic in that it doesn't take into account other factors such as employment. The US could be in a good financial situation and also on the precipice of revolt. If enough people are unemployed and *can't* find a job, if enough people drop from middle-class to poor-class, then there would be a great deal of unrest.

    We're 'kinda seeing that now. Productivity is up, overall profits are up, but for the vast majority of Americans wages have remained stagnant. All the profits go to the upper echelons, so it *seems* like we're doing fine financially when in reality a lot of people are miserable.

    I'm not an economist, I'm only trying to figure out this stuff on my own. Some aspects of "current economic theory" don't seem to make sense.

    Can you explain why unemployment (or more accurately, the labor force participation rate isn't a priority in your analysis?

    1. Re:Can you explain something to me? by ShooterNeo · · Score: 2

      I'm not going to pretend to know all the answers, either, but a couple of insights for you.

      1. Economic theories are as simple as possible in order to make testable predictions and to make analysis easier. All science tries to make theories as simple as possible, only adding complexity when it is required. This is fine, the problem is when politicians make policy decisions based on unproven or incorrect economic theories.

      2. Regarding free trade specifically, these theories say it increases total net economic output. And it does. The problem now is that individual Americans being out of work is not a variable being considered or controlled for.

      3. A certain political party shouts from the rooftops that the reason we need low taxes on the rich and a minimal safety net is so there is immense pressure to be a "producer" and to not be a drain on society, and that if we have anything like a real welfare state, no one will do any work and everything will fall into ruin.

      The problem with this untested theory is it implicitly assumes that if people aren't being worked to death all the time, not enough will be produced since people are being lazy, and everything will collapse. It implicitly assumes scarce labor from productive people.

      But this isn't true. There's millions and millions of unemployed and underemployed people willing to be productive, there just aren't jobs for them. And the productive laborers who are working are producing more resources than ever. So we end up in a society where we don't give that bum under the bridge with a cardboard sign a free apartment and a commissary card because we "can't afford" the material resources, yet our society has more money than ever and there is not a job available for that bum to earn his keep anyway.

    2. Re:Can you explain something to me? by mentil · · Score: 2

      The linked inflation statistics are from the US Government, which are widely accepted to be heavily manipulated (i.e. much lower than inflation for most things that matter to most people).

      It's possible that depression and deflation aren't correlated because countries which are capable of causing deflation monitor their economy enough to realize they should increase stimulus spending in order to prevent a recession from turning into a depression, or modify the policies leading to deflation. Deflation could still be very bad for an economy even if it doesn't itself lead to a depression. OTOH, the flipside of people saving rather than spending is that they're later able to afford more expensive things they would be unable to ever purchase if they were spending all their income as they received it; for example, buying a car instead of a year of fast food.

      Social sciences have a fuzziness to them that's difficult to cut through; many theories have been proven and experiments that returned interesting conclusions, but there are always more hidden variables and unknown mechanics that inhibit a full understanding. Many macroeconomists are part of the upper classes, and have a conflict of interest to optimistically promote policies which just so happen to benefit themselves.

      Something I haven't seen talked about much is the unemployed being a drain on friends and family; an employed person's income may on paper be the same or higher than it was, but now that they're supporting an unemployed person or three, their standard of living goes down. Even someone with a nice secure middle-class job can only take so much of that before they start feeling like the economy is hurting them... even aside from taxes. We may go back to the days of extended family all living in one house, rather than just a nuclear family; of course many immigrants are already doing this just as they did at home.

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    3. Re:Can you explain something to me? by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      Can you explain why unemployment (or more accurately, the labor force participation rate isn't a priority in your analysis?

      Because, if your country is experiencing stagflation, your employment rate is going to be pretty darn low. Fixing that situation should be #1 on your list of priorities.

      There are, of course, lots of other important factors to take into consideration for a healthy economy, but if you are setting your economy up for deflation, that's the only factor that you really need to pay attention to, because it's going to affect *everything* else.

      Think if it this way - unemployment is like cancer and deflation is like a heart attack. If you have cancer and are having a heart attack - you still need to take care of the cancer somehow, but if you don't take care of the heart attack first, the cancer is kind of moot.

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  15. Deflation and depression by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Here is one paper that talks about deflation and depression, many others can be found in a google search.

  16. It's corruption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow this sounds bad....

    It's because China is using a protectionist practice.

    It is protectionism. It is also corruption. I have heard reps of big VC firms say outright that they have to use domestic partners in China because it is practically impossible to do business there without violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  17. This doesn't make sense by spiritplumber · · Score: 1

    All that stuff is made in China, how has it not penetrated the market?

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  18. Uhhhh... what? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Look man when you are talking weapons or monitoring technology or something like that then yes, there are some real arguments to be made for denying access. However things like entertainment? No, the opposite should apply actually. Something that helps tear barriers down is sharing culture.

    1. Re:Uhhhh... what? by Lehk228 · · Score: 2

      GP doesn't know how to win Civ cultural victory

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    2. Re: Uhhhh... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cultural victories in Civ V are for people who have given up on fun. At least in Civ IV you had the satisfaction of seeing your cities engulf enemy cities.,

  19. why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just.. why

    the chinese government passed laws stating that all source code was to be handed over to them

    why would anyone do business there

    1. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Money

  20. meanwhile in common sense country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile, American technology companies like Apple and Microsoft are undergoing security reviews in the communist country.

    #1 Microsoft is Global Mother Fucking Spyware.
    #2 Apple.. there is no such thing as a trustworthy homosexual.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/05/20/third-cash-owned-5-us-companies/84640704/

    Hell to pay.

  21. I had no idea... by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    that bribes were legal in China.

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  22. Super easy by magarity · · Score: 1

    "The most challenging aspect of doing business in China by far is dealing with the government,"

    No, no, it's super easy to deal with the government in China:
    1. Go out to drink with the first layer of officials; bring lavish gifts preferably cash or easily convertible to cash. Repeat step 1 x2
    2: Go out to a dinner with the next level of officials; bring higher grade of lavish gifts preferably cash or easily convertible to cash. Repeat step 2 3-4x.
    3: Go on a vacation trip with the highest level of officials; bring highest grade of lavish gifts preferably cash or easily convertible to cash. Repeat step 3 6-8x.
    4: Modest profit!
    Note that if step 4 lasts more than a year or does not include "modest", re-start from step 1.

  23. not all that different by ooloorie · · Score: 1

    Game publishers must acquire a combined six permits to launch a game in China

    Not all that different from the US: "buy local", "consumer protection regulations", etc. It's, of course, all for the "protection of the people".

  24. Re: Nothing Matters; Except for the Almighty Dolla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that's misleading.

    I could sue you for looking at me funny. That doesn't mean anything. Being sued by someone with a chance of winning is a different matter. And the idea of a shareholder having a credible case for suing a board for not breaking the law is more than a bit far fetched. The reality is that credible lawsuits are most likely due to illegal practices that damage shareholder value, as with Volkswagen or where mismanagent is of epic proportions. You make it seem as if IBM will see a shareholder revolt if they have a free donuts day for their staff.