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Terrorists No Longer Welcome On OneDrive, Outlook, Xbox Live (betanews.com)

Microsoft has updated its anti-terrorism policies. In a blog post, the Redmond, Washington-based company said that it would remove "terrorist content" from a fleet of its services including OneDrive, Outlook and Xbox Live, reports BetaNews. For its search engine Bing, however, Microsoft says that it would only remove links when it is required by local law, citing free expression for all. The company adds that it would fund research for a tool that could help it better scan such content and flag image, audio and video. From company's blog post: There is no universally accepted definition of terrorist content. For purposes of our services, we will consider terrorist content to be material posted by or in support of organizations included on the Consolidated United Nations Security Council Sanctions List that depicts graphic violence, encourages violent action, endorses a terrorist organization or its acts, or encourages people to join such groups. The UN Sanctions List includes a list of groups that the UN Security Council considers to be terrorist organizations.

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  1. Hard way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "remove "terrorist content" from a fleet of its services including OneDrive, Outlook and Xbox Live,"

    It starts with Cheese Pizza, copyright infringement and terrorism. Then it's... awe hell, we're going to learn the hard way aren’t we?

    1. Re:Hard way by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      The problem is, "what if those pig fornicating falacio's have a valid point?" By keeping terrorists stupid, those that guide them have more fun. Now seeing microsoftdic is administurd by a H1B zombie carrier, why doesn't these world class guinnasses try showing its neighbors the benefits education? I guess its worked ok so far back home?

    2. Re:Hard way by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      I sure learned the hard way. I was filling out the form for my OneDrive account and when I answered YES to the "Are you a terrorist? question, I got locked out.

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  2. Oh great by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    Does that mean I can get a refund?

  3. That list... by valinor89 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems to include some organizations that are not terrorist per se. OK, maybe we consider every ministry of Iran a terrorist organization but it is abit selfserving. Same with North Korean Atomic autorithy. Sure, they are "bad" but not terrorist organizations. Central Bank of Iraq is in there because it somehow financed terrorism... I bet that some American banks are involved with CIA operations too and they are not listed as terrorism organizations. I guess "Terrorism" is on the eyes of the beholder...

    1. Re:That list... by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The CIA isn't a terrorist organization. They are the ones protecting your rights to say stupid things on the Internet and allowing Allu Akbar from chopping your head off for belonging to the wrong religious group.

    2. Re:That list... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      I guess "Terrorism" is on the eyes of the beholder...

      You got it. If the British had won, George Washington and the founding fathers would have gone down in history as "terrorists".

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    3. Re:That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and vice versa.

    4. Re:That list... by ScentCone · · Score: 0

      You got it. If the British had won, George Washington and the founding fathers would have gone down in history as "terrorists".

      But they didn't win, and thus the truth remains well known. The British were the ones acting in tyrannical ways, not the colonists. Resisting the tyrannical urges of a government that puts their troops in your home, deprives you of self defense, refuses you a voice in parliament, arrests you for manufacturing finished goods and so on - resisting such is not "terrorism" even if the tyrant in question wants to call it that. Terrorism isn't in the eyes of the beholder, it's in the act of the beheader - the person who kills school teachers for teaching girls to read. Who send drugged young women into vegetable markets with bombs strapped to them. Who slaughter villages full of people for being insufficiently the right way about some particular twist or turn of believing in magic and some specific flavor of fantasy mythology.

      Nobody cares if Taliban wants to call school teachers terrorists, because we know, and they know that's bullshit. We just care what they DO, and what they do is try to scare people into conducting their lives the way their religious say they should. Beard police! No dancing! Fly kites and die!

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    5. Re:That list... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      > The CIA isn't a terrorist organization.

      I've seen little evidence that they act brutally and without warning against civilians uninvolved in a conflict, one of the more useful definitions of terrorism. They're certainly a criminal organization often in violation of US law and international treaty.

    6. Re:That list... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      The CIA isn't a terrorist organization. They are the ones protecting your rights to say stupid things on the Internet and allowing Allu Akbar from chopping your head off for belonging to the wrong religious group.

      Yes they are. Look at who they have funded over the years Osam bin ladin and his Mujahideen aka the Taliban.
      Then there is the whole international drug trade were they where distributing heroin opium and more
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    7. Re:That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The CIA isn't a terrorist organization.

      I've seen little evidence that they act brutally and without warning against civilians uninvolved in a conflict, one of the more useful definitions of terrorism. They're certainly a criminal organization often in violation of US law and international treaty.

      The definition is terrorism is about bringing a desired political outcome with the populace largely affected in so much as the populace will revolt against their own government through the machinations of the terrorists. Nowhere in the definition does is state the populace must be brutally and without warning attacked. While violence is an oft used tool it is not a necessary means to achieve the desired political change.

    8. Re:That list... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      We just care what they DO...

      With all the money and weapons you send them, you have a funny way of showing it. You can stop the charade any time you want, you know..

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    9. Re:That list... by don+depresor · · Score: 1

      comment to undo mistaken moderation :(

    10. Re:That list... by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      So if I break into your house and steal a kitchen knife which I then use to kill somebody, should you feel guilty because someone else says you provided me with the weapon? No? I see.

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    11. Re:That list... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      There was no "break in". The "house" was the pick up point. Plausible deniability works pretty good on you, doesn't it?

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    12. Re:That list... by EmeraldBot · · Score: 1

      You got it. If the British had won, George Washington and the founding fathers would have gone down in history as "terrorists".

      But they didn't win, and thus the truth remains well known. The British were the ones acting in tyrannical ways, not the colonists. Resisting the tyrannical urges of a government that puts their troops in your home, deprives you of self defense, refuses you a voice in parliament, arrests you for manufacturing finished goods and so on - resisting such is not "terrorism" even if the tyrant in question wants to call it that. Terrorism isn't in the eyes of the beholder, it's in the act of the beheader - the person who kills school teachers for teaching girls to read. Who send drugged young women into vegetable markets with bombs strapped to them. Who slaughter villages full of people for being insufficiently the right way about some particular twist or turn of believing in magic and some specific flavor of fantasy mythology. Nobody cares if Taliban wants to call school teachers terrorists, because we know, and they know that's bullshit. We just care what they DO, and what they do is try to scare people into conducting their lives the way their religious say they should. Beard police! No dancing! Fly kites and die!

      But see? You're absolutly dead set. You realize the Americans started the war because the the British lowered taxes, which damaged the smuggler's trade? They didn't object to the treaty keeping them west of the mountains because they ran out of space, but because the land was a few cents cheaper? That they were offered a representative, but refused because England was unwilling to move the British Parliment overseas? That George Washington looked down on his own militias as an unorganized bunch of idiots until a German commander put in the order and authority that he didn't/couldn't?

      All of that was probably new information to you, and that's my point - conciously or not, we all live in our bubbles of how we percieve the world, and we tune out anything that doesn't fit that. I wouldn't mind at all had they narrowed it down a bit more, but simply preventing "terrorist content" is extremely vague and not at all helpful, and opens up the door to many kinds of abuse. This is especially so in a corporation, where there is no accountability, and our current political climate has seen all sorts of content labled as "terrorist" without any further explanation. War criminal? Terrorist. Petty criminal? Terrorist. Protester? Terrorist. Me, a slashdot commentator? Terrorist. I have no problem with them actually targeting the bastards who recruit and all, but the continuing trend towards labelling everything as terrorism because it's easier and doesn't have to be defended scares me far more than some idiot shouting Allah Akbar in a comment. How free is our society, really, when we have political prisoners imprisoned as - yup, you guessed it - terrorists? And before you say they're all from the middle east, or that they don't exist at all, take a look.

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    13. Re:That list... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      But they didn't win, and thus the truth remains well known. The British were the ones acting in tyrannical ways, not the colonists.

      Yes, yes, we all know that. But that's not the point. The point is that the winner write the history books, and my point still stands. Had the British prevailed, George Washington and the founding fathers would have gone down in history as "terrorists". Some people would have known the truth, but it would have been a historical byline at best.

      Nobody cares if Taliban wants to call school teachers terrorists, because we know, and they know that's bullshit. We just care what they DO, and what they do is try to scare people into conducting their lives the way their religious say they should. Beard police! No dancing! Fly kites and die!

      But what if I dance beardless while flying a kite?

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    14. Re:That list... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      So if I break into your house and steal a kitchen knife which I then use to kill somebody, should you feel guilty because someone else says you provided me with the weapon? No? I see.

      Holy fuck, Analogy Failure Alert, Level 1 Million.

      They didn't break into our military stockpiles and steal weapons and money, we sent it to them.

      Are you really unable to discern the difference between these two things?

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    15. Re:That list... by valinor89 · · Score: 1

      Considering they funded AlQaida they should be on that list...

    16. Re:That list... by nbauman · · Score: 1

      Terrorism isn't in the eyes of the beholder, it's in the act of the beheader .... Who slaughter villages full of people for being insufficiently the right way about some particular twist or turn of believing in magic and some specific flavor of fantasy mythology.

      My Lai Massacre http://www.history.com/topics/...

    17. Re:That list... by unrtst · · Score: 2

      The definition is terrorism is about bringing a desired political outcome with the populace largely affected in so much as the populace will revolt against their own government through the machinations of the terrorists.

      I disagree. While trying to put into words what I feel it is, I ran into the FBI's definition, and it's actually quite good:
      https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/i...

      ... means activities with the following ... characteristics:

      • * Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
      • * Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;

      I would also include threats of violet acts, and utilization of intimidation and fear to adversely affect another group. Whether or not that causes revolt or any real political change doesn't really matter.

    18. Re:That list... by nbauman · · Score: 1

      The CIA isn't a terrorist organization. They are the ones protecting your rights to say stupid things on the Internet and allowing Allu Akbar from chopping your head off for belonging to the wrong religious group.

      http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/...
      Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown. Yes, we now have confirmation that the CIA was behind Iran's 1953 coup. But the agency hardly stopped there.
      By J. Dana Stuster
      August 20, 2013

      Iran, 1953

      Guatemala, 1954

      Congo, 1960

      Dominican Republic, 1961

      South Vietnam, 1963

      Brazil, 1964

      Chile, 1973

      http://www.alternet.org/world/...

        “I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.” -- Henry Kissinger

    19. Re:That list... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      The "right to vote yourself communist" translates to "the all-too common practice of a large chunk of the population following a demagogue into dictatorship."

      The dictators they replace are no better (but probably no worse, when you measure actual health and wealth of the average person, and maybe better.) There is little freedom in either case.

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    20. Re: That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And because some evil Americans committed these war crimes 40 years ago, we are required to stand by and idly watch these fucking maniacs today? If that were the standard for standing up to evil in the world, not one country would have the moral authority to stop them.

      What exactly would you prefer?

    21. Re:That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares if Taliban wants to call school teachers terrorists, because we know, and they know that's bullshit. We just care what they DO, and what they do is try to scare people into conducting their lives the way their religious say they should. Beard police! No dancing! Fly kites and die!

      Indeed, a better example of relevancy probably comes from western perspectives about brainwashing in public > schools.

      Why look to an outside group that is widely dismissed already, when you have ones here at home pushing their own message? The question is, who is full of bullshit?

      PS, don't worry about the Colonies not having representation in the British Parliament, inhabitants of England didn't, even the rotten boroughs weren't eliminated for another few decades and true suffrage was even longer in developing.

      Of course, the US has its own problems with representation today.

    22. Re:That list... by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      No, we did not send arms to the Taliban to use in killing western aid workers or to shoot school teachers in the head.

      No, we did not send arms to ISIS.

      Are you unable to grasp the concept of "getting into the wrong hands?" The analogy isn't meant to be exact, it's meant for normal, intelligent human beings to grapple with the concept of culpability for someone else's actions. None of those arms pick themselves up and kill the wrong people. People do that. Let me guess, you're in the sue-Remington-because-a-criminal-used-a-gun-to-murder-someone camp, right?

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    23. Re:That list... by nbauman · · Score: 1

      The "right to vote yourself communist" translates to "the all-too common practice of a large chunk of the population following a demagogue into dictatorship."

      The alternative that Kissinger advocated was the practice of having a foreign power (the US) overthrow a democratically-elected government that he believed was a communist dictatorship.

      The dictators they replace are no better (but probably no worse, when you measure actual health and wealth of the average person, and maybe better.) There is little freedom in either case.

      I believe that there is more freedom when a population makes a decision based on a vote, than when the decision is imposed on them by a foreign power.

      Some people could reasonably choose communism over the alternatives. According to first-hand stories from the Wall Street Journal, many Afghans preferred the communist regime to the Taliban.

    24. Re:That list... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      No, you're just refusing to acknowledge that this is how weapons are transferred in the middle east to people we are not to supposed to deal with for strictly PR reasons, but who serve our purpose. It's just another variation of Iran/Contra...

      Here again, you are merely appealing to authority, reciting its propaganda.

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    25. Re:That list... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      No, we did not send arms to the Taliban to use in killing western aid workers or to shoot school teachers in the head.
      No, we did not send arms to ISIS.

      Lol, you're so adorably naive, I'm tempted to print your post and frame it.

      The brilliant tacticians who approved the sale of arms and ammunition to "the enemy of our enemy" knew from long experience that this stuff would inevitably end up in the hands of people who would turn around and use it against us. It's happened so many times that you can place large bets on it and win every single time.

        It's like arming the Hell's Angels and sending them against the Crips....and whaddya know, the Hell's Angels end up shooting cops with the guns you gave 'em. Who coulda seen that coming??

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      Let me guess, you're in the sue-Remington-because-a-criminal-used-a-gun-to-murder-someone camp, right?

      No, I'm not. I own *lots* of guns. I just don't pass them out to the burglars who are casing my neighborhood while claiming that they'll keep me safe from the other burglars casing my neighborhood.

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    26. Re:That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CIA isn't a terrorist organization.

      So they don't kidnap people and torture them? Nor do they use drones for missile strikes on houses and murder entire families? Nor do they hire the locals to form a militia and attack a neighbouring town? I'm sure they have, so your definition of terrorist is different to mine.

      ... allowing Allu Akbar from chopping your head off for belonging to the wrong religious group.

      Before that, they were not allowing the Viet Cong from chopping your head off for belonging to the wrong political party. Yes, it's easy to call yourself a victim. That doesn't make you correct.

    27. Re:That list... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      While trying to put into words what I feel it is, I ran into the FBI's definition, and it's actually quite good: * Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
              * Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;

      I'll just leave this here. The FBI is a terrorist organization by their own definition, and thus is the enemy and must be destroyed.

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    28. Re:That list... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      No, we did not send arms to the Taliban to use in killing western aid workers or to shoot school teachers in the head.

      False. That's precisely what we did, and precisely why we did it, too.

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    29. Re:That list... by Kirth · · Score: 1

      What I don't understand: There's a load of organizations and companies that have their addresses listed, with things like "Baghdad, Iraq". I mean, the "Baghdad Stock Exchange" (yes, that's the ISX) is on there, and they've even got an American advisor. So how does this end up on that list? Because if it really does something illegal, it can be persecuted immediately.

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    30. Re: That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the poster is not from the US then, yes, the CIA is a terrorist organization from their perspective.

    31. Re:That list... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      They have used force and/or the threat of force to politically coerce people. That is the definition of terrorism. It has nothing to do with whether their aims are righteous or not, or whether they are doing it for you or not.

    32. Re:That list... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Incorrect. Terrorism is a combination of an act and a motive. You can blow a building up and it isn't terrorism, if you just wanted to blow up the building and kill those inside. If, however, your motive was to use the threat of further violence to somehow coerce the surviving population, then it's terrorism.

      I wish you'd understand this stuff. You get so carried away with what you are certain of, only to show everyone you don't really understand it correctly.

    33. Re:That list... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      They would be recorded as rebels. Rebelling and terrorism are not the same thing. If the rebels had used force and/or the threat of it to coerce the British people into calling for change, then they'd be guilty of terrorism. Terrorism isn't just "angry stuff we don't like", it's something very specific.

    34. Re:That list... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      They would be recorded as rebels.

      Well...maybe and maybe not.

      The winners write the history books, and they're often inclined to cast their opponents/enemies in the worst possible light whilst making themselves out to be selfless heroes fighting the good fight.

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    35. Re:That list... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CIA isn't a terrorist organization. They are the ones protecting your rights to say stupid things on the Internet and allowing Allu Akbar from chopping your head off for belonging to the wrong religious group.

      http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/...
      Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown. Yes, we now have confirmation that the CIA was behind Iran's 1953 coup. But the agency hardly stopped there.
      By J. Dana Stuster
      August 20, 2013

      Iran, 1953

      Guatemala, 1954

      Congo, 1960

      Dominican Republic, 1961

      South Vietnam, 1963

      Brazil, 1964

      Chile, 1973

      http://www.alternet.org/world/...

        “I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.” -- Henry Kissinger

      Interesting how all the examples above are not only from the last millennium, but also from the Communist period. Has any US government - (D) or (R) - ousted any regime since 1992? Aside from Afghanistan, Iraq & Libya?

  4. Wouldn't Microsoft itself be in trouble? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't Microsoft itself be in trouble for "terrorist content" under its own definition?

    >> depicts graphic violence, encourages violent action

    Dead Space, Mortal Kombat, Medal of Honor...

    >> endorses a terrorist organization or its acts

    Star Wars Battlefront?

    1. Re:Wouldn't Microsoft itself be in trouble? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > Star Wars Battlefront

      And the war crime of forcing what are obviously untrained civilians, AKA "Storm Troopers", to run up as human waves to the slaughter, no ability to shoot, and cool looking armor that might as well be tissue paper.

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  5. Counter-Strike by lordlod · · Score: 0
    Does that mean no mention of Valve's Counter-Strike game?

    Or are you just banned from storing recordings of the game where the terrorists win?

    1. Re:Counter-Strike by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Does a recording of a game that turns out that way actually promote the agenda of groups like ISIS? If so, how?

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    2. Re:Counter-Strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (lol) I believe all terrorist, or resistance, games would be perfectly fine unless they mention actual organizations. Of course the "public outcry", as reported by BBC, would be deafening. There is so many to build games and DLCs around: War of Independence, French Revolution, the great revolt in India, Afganistan (multiple campaigns), Sri Lanka, the numerous struggles in South America, the whole Africa and Middle East. Then onward to fictional content like US Under Occupation, The Siege of Moscow, The Lapland Incident and Independence Day Without Grasshoppers.

    3. Re:Counter-Strike by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Who the hell cares? Either way, Microsoft is perfectly welcome to its editorial judgement in deciding what to distribute, for or against... Unless you're thinking of buying/playing the game, its content is none of your business.

      ISIS... please... They and Al Qaeda are your proxies, your Middle East avatars in your war against Russia. You should be happy it's their blood marking your "red line" in the sand and not your kid's...

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    4. Re: Counter-Strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is fucking gold man

  6. No encryption? by wvmarle · · Score: 1

    So this means all the content you store on MS's services is there completely unencrypted, fully readable to MS themselves and in extension everyone asking nicely enough?

    Anyone using their services should really reconsider and look for cloud services that encrypt by default, or encrypt their stuff before uploading it to the cloud storage.

    1. Re:No encryption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So this means all the content you store on MS's services is there completely unencrypted, fully readable to MS themselves and in extension everyone asking nicely enough?

      Welcome to Windows 10, where all your files are belong to Microsoft (+NSA +GCHQ)

  7. Hello Slippery Slope by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

    This just gives Microsoft license to do whatever the fuck they want at any time with no recourse. Pretty much like before except now it can be done under the auspices of "fighting terrorism".

    Plus it gives them a wide-open excuse to paw through your files and content because, you know, they're just lookin' for terroristic content, who could possibly have a problem with that?

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  8. Lovely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a tool that could help it better scan such content and flag image, audio and video.

    Let's be clear about this: That tool does not scan only "such content". It necessarily scans all content uploaded to their storage servers. How long before Windows 10 starts scanning your hard disk looking for "such content"?

    1. Re:Lovely by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Within the the next year although it might already be happening as Microsoft security essentials and windows defender already regularly scan all the files on windows computers and its been built in to the os since windows vista.

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    2. Re:Lovely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      independent researchers have already shown that Windows 7 through 10 index all your movie and music files and send it back to Microsoft. They know exactly what pirate copies you have.

    3. Re:Lovely by mlts · · Score: 1

      I just wonder how long it will be before the bar goes from "terrorist content" to "possibly infringing content", and everything stored/uploaded gets passed through a filter. I'm sure if this continues local scans will happen, (with anyone who opposes it being called "sympathetic to terrorists"), and the local scans will silently be updated to go after signatures from BitTorrents.

    4. Re:Lovely by russotto · · Score: 1

      Wait until they find out that the only things I do with Windows 10 are to practice flying drones and play a murder simulator. Hang on, I think there's a knock at the door...

    5. Re:Lovely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " How long before Windows 10 starts scanning your hard disk looking for "such content"

      it already does, it hashes all your images and docs and sends those hashes to MS, they know what hashes represent what image/docs , they get a match and they look closer.

  9. I have a problem with that. by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure why but I have a problem with using services from any company that says its going to delete my files if it it thinks they might be dangerous. I think it goes all the way back to the first time a virus scanner deleted buttons.exe for my safety.

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  10. So, peados and killers get free bing space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way to go, Sat! But if a Paki wanted to spout off about his homeland, that's a no go. I prefer thrown chairs.

  11. Does it even matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is this going to be enforced? Is Microsoft going to openly surveill users now to determine if they meet certain criteria? What are those criteria? This seems more like lip service vice actual action.

  12. definition of terrorist content by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    "Terrorism" is defined by its target, not its content. Right now Al Qaeda is our "friend" in the kabuki against ISIS.

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  13. Re:Microsoft hates men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's their servers, they can do what they like with them. That's the way the free market works. If you don't like it you can take your business elsewhere.

  14. Osama McTerroristface not welcome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Osama McTerroristface not welcome?

  15. one drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So does microsoft look through all your files stored on one drive or no?

  16. Google's Terrorist Content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For purposes of our services, we will consider terrorist content to be material posted by or in support of organizations included on the Consolidated United Nations Security Council Sanctions List that depicts graphic violence, encourages violent action, endorses a terrorist organization or its acts, or encourages people to join such groups.

    Ah, you mean like the Google Doodle of Yuri Kochiyama who praised Osama Bin Laden in 2003 and encouraged people to join "revolutionary movements"?

    Protip: Socialist "revolutionary moments" are started by terrorists and usually involve bombing and calls to violence.

    1. Re:Google's Terrorist Content by truckaxle · · Score: 1

      Yeah since Google is now honoring Black Separatists and praising people who fly airplanes into buildings full of innocent people I wonder when they are going to honor a "White Separatist".

      Seriously I nuked chrome from my desktop and moved everything to Firefox on all my devices over that... small gesture sure but I even found out I like firefox better now.

  17. Bullshit Advertisment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just a lot of noise, "look we're doing something!"

    Anything of actual value will be encrypted, coded (my "mom" is coming on the 25th and she's bringing an "apple pie") and/or one of several copies. By the time they know about it it's done its job. Even deleting accounts of recruiters just ends up as "they deleted Bob's account, those evil oppressors! He told us they would."

    They always had this power with the generic "you broke the terms of service". Nothing has changed. This is just advertising.

    And they can and will do the same to Bing search results and you'll have no idea.

  18. "encourages violent action" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have little sympathy for potential terrorists, beyond believing that they should be treated morally and lawfully, but removing content that "encourages violent action" isn't an entirely fair rule. Content that rises to the level of a threat should clearly be removed, but removing something more general like "x should fight back against this" while not removing "there needs to be a military intervention in x" is far too much censorship for me. As a matter of principle, people should be allowed to express terrible viewpoints, just as they are legally allowed to by the First Amendment.

  19. Ban NY Times And 1% Friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NY Times, mouthpiece of NY Finance, has been openly discussing the asassination of Donald Trump:

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/new-york-times-writer-jokes-of-trumps-assassination/

    Can MSFT now please embargo the NY Times ?

  20. Pffft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you do not encrypt your files on this service, you are a 1% vicitim anyway.

  21. Bad but inevitable news by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    The big deal here is "OneDrive". The other stuff is expected. If you search up OneDrive, you find this description from Microsoft themselves:
    "Get to your files and photos from anywhere, on any device. Share and work together with anyone in your work and life."

    It is clear that as cloud becomes ubiquitous, it will also become very restrictive. While decentralized computing is pretty resistant to censorship, centralized computing is not. While there are workarounds (such as only transferring and storing encrypted data, as Apple has mused about doing), not only are none of the big players doing this yet, but there's also plenty of envelope information laying around in these sorts of transactions.

    Certainly, this policy is unsurprising and common sense- obviously, you shouldn't contribute to those who are doing harmful and illegal things. The slippery slope comes into play rapidly: we've already seen almost every anti-terrorism measure put in place this century rapidly be used at every level of government to justify expansion of powers. Drug dealers are now "terrorists" if it lets a prosecutor have an easier job, etc.

    How will Microsoft judge if something is terrorism related? Not immediately, but long term? Certainly, the OneDrive means that in fact you'll need a real drive on your machine, in case something gets accidentally flagged. Certainly for it to be flagged for manual review, it will be able to be searched- that's probably not their policy yet, but there's no reason not to run some daemon on a server to snoop through your stuff at night and flag things, should that be perceived as desirable.

    We end up with a situation where if you provide a service, and you could POSSIBLY figure out that the service can be used contrary to the public interest, there is HUGE interest in you doing that. Computers are seen as a panacea here. Giant data centers to real time process as much communication as possible. Computer locks on firearms, which will be made mandatory the moment they exist (one state already has this as a law, but it is conditional on the development of the technology). Regional internet and cellular kill switches which can be accessed easily by law enforcement. It is understood that once you have a self driving car, the police will be able to override it for any purpose remotely. Each of these has a noble purpose, but the underlying message is the same: in the future, no item you own will actually serve your desires and needs should they override the perceived needs of the community, at any time.

    Of course the first places to attack will be ones where there is broad consensus over the needs of the community- terrorists are despicable. But from laws to policies of governments and companies, this seems to be a growing area where discussion is simply not happening, and most of the expansion is happening behind the scenes.

  22. Anglos 100% Corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While the Saudi-financed ISIS folks kills Christians in Syria, Charles of Britain and the Clintons are busy to encourage more of that.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2014/feb/19/prince-charles-sword-dance-saudi-arabia-video
    http://www.amazon.com/House-Bush-Saud-Relationship-Dynasties/dp/B000CC491W
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419178/clinton-foundation-took-money-saudi-propagandists-joel-gehrke

    These kinds of traitors are running the Anglo world. When Trump blasted the Wahabists, they discussed assassinate Trump.

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/new-york-times-writer-jokes-of-trumps-assassination/

    This is a deeply rotten civilization.

  23. Get A Freedom Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

    Put it behind the DSL modem, get a DNS name from afraid.org.

    Show the middle finger to Zuckerbug, the Googlers and the Indian who now runs MSFT.

    Own your data and despise of the Sweet Collection Services.

  24. So ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just don't use the $hit from Satya Nutella.

    Use Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBDS. Hell, write your own OS to run on an RPI. Build an RPI based laptop.

    We can do it.

    Vote Trump, not the 1% candidate Klinton.

    We can throw off the shackles of the 1% if we stop to worship their contraptions.

    We stopped the banksters in their quest to re-run 1929.

    Go to the NY Times website and blast their sweet lies.

    They know our power and already fear it. Proof: All the "Penguin" movies. Notice how we are the ninjas who fix the sharks, walrusses and other evildoers ?

    Proof 2: The "minions". They acknowledge that the common people are standing up to their evil plans and they fume. Good.

    I say GO !

  25. SWEET! by Lumpy · · Score: 0

    That means that "The Division" is going to be pulled? as that is jam packed full of terrorist content.

    Hell the dark zone is where assholes go to act like terrorists in game.

    --
    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  26. Business rates? by suss · · Score: 1

    So, they're going to have to pay business rates for hosting "terrorist" content now.
    After all, money and power are all that matters to microsoft.

  27. If like Facebook, they'll go for conservatives by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    They'll leave most of the actual terrorists alone, but manage to use this to silence right-wing opinion.

    --
    Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
  28. Just wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for it to be added as an update for Windows 10. The current EULA already allows them to scan, flag, and remove content from your system. What happens when they start flagging your local files for politically unsympathetic views and helpfully remove it for you?

  29. Will Microsoft pull down its own violent content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I doubt it. Stop the censorship. I don't think *any* content online should ever be censored. When you have censorship of any communications you don't have a democratic society. We already don't have a real democracy in the United States because prisoners aren't allowed to vote. You can't deny some of your citizens the right to vote because they committed a crime. How are they suppose to fix it so that that crime doesn't exist if they can't vote? You also can't censor them. That would also cause a problem.

  30. what would John Oliver say by epine · · Score: 1

    John Oliver might say that nothing screams a two-digit IQ quite like beginning a headline with "terrorists no longer welcome"—unless you've actually located a Motel 6 manager who just painted over his "terrorists welcome" pool-side wall mural, and not just to test "wife beaters welcome" to see if it generates more patronage.

  31. Daily Microsoftdot now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way back before http://slashdot.org/?nobeta=1 slashdot readers agreed Microsoft stances were categorically dickheaded.

    How much wa$ it?

    Microsoft everything is Global Mother Fucking Spyware. On top of that you have spies on all the gaming networks.... spies suck at video games. Just sayin.

    Pwned.