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Wearable 'Backpack PCs' Let You Experience High-End VR On The Go (mashable.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Powerful virtual reality headsets like the Oculus Rift and HTC Vive require powerful PCs with beefy graphics cards to operate. That means you'll usually be tethered to a PC tower in your home. Well, HP and MSI have announced portable 'backpack PCs' designed to be used with high-end virtual reality headsets. These PC internals are built in a backpack enclosure powered by a large battery pack. The HP Omen X weighs less than 10 pounds and has a battery that's big enough to last for up to one hour of gameplay, but you do have the option of swapping out the batteries for uninterrupted VR. Specs include either an Intel Core i5 or i7 processor, up to 32GB of RAM, and at least an Nvidia GTX 970 or AMD R9 290 or higher. The MSI Backpack PC features an Intel Core i7 processor and Nvidia GTX 980 graphics, according to the company. The last of the backpack PC trio is the Zotac Mobile VR. The company hasn't released any specs of the product but the company did state in a blog post, "This mobile solution not only removes the bulk of connecting to the large traditional computer towers of old, but also allows the user to roam freely in VR with their undivided attention. This innovative solution includes a system powerful enough to drive VR, and a portable battery pack to keep you going." There is no pricing or availability information as of yet.

47 comments

  1. Memories by deadwill69 · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of lan parties back in the day. Almost brought tears of joy to my eyes!

  2. This is why VR will fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Every does know that the Hololens does its own rendering and is a complete system in the head gear right? AR is a better idea, their system fixes all head tracking and is fast enough to fix motion sickness.... Why is this this kludge news?

    1. Re:This is why VR will fail. by janoc · · Score: 2

      Because:

      a) AR is not the same thing as VR or a replacement for it. Those two technologies are pretty much orthogonal to each other, with different use cases. Saying "AR is better/will replace VR" is like saying an airplane will replace car. Both are means of transportation but serving different purposes and used at different times.

      b) Hololens is unable to generate a fully immersive scene - has narrow field of view and a lot of problems with achievable contrast (as any see-through display) in brightly lit spaces. This is important for sense of presence. Making a fantasy game (for example) believable is going to be difficult if you have the real world visible in your scene, unless your objective is to make dragons roam your living room. Not a problem for VR.

      c) Nobody knows how well (or whether at all) the tracking on Hololens performs - all that was presented were carefully orchestrated demos in controlled conditions and no specs are known. Again not something that is comparable.

      d) Performance of the embedded ARM/Intel CPU/GPU combo on something like Hololens is far behind what a desktop CPU/GPU combo are capable of. Hololens is likely comparable to something like GearVR performance-wise and those require a lot of "dumbing down" of the content in order to achieve reasonable frame rates. Moreover Hololens has to also do the optical tracking of the surrounding scene which GearVR does not do - making the problem even worse.

      e) Motion sickness is less a factor of how fast the tracking/rendering is but much more a function of content. You can have usable VR at 30fps with no motion sickness and a totally atrocious experience at 120fps if the content is poorly built.

      Disclosure - working with VR since 1998 or so :)

    2. Re:This is why VR will fail. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Nobody believes me when I tell them my VFX1 is no more pukey then my Rift. Like you say, it's all about content. Descent 2 was the worst, but they are working on a new Descent...

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    3. Re:This is why VR will fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But... backpack PC's are not necessary for VR. They would be useful for AR.

    4. Re: This is why VR will fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my opinion the main reason it will fail is because of the low resolution. When they fix that it will really take off.

    5. Re:This is why VR will fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hololens has no immersion. It's a translucent rectangle with a pathetic 30 degree FOV and laughably low resolution display.

    6. Re:This is why VR will fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. It will fail from the motion sickness and insane price required for the hardware.

      It is already on track to fail as it's experiencing the same problem "3D TV" did, which never caught on. 4K will be the next victim in the "eh good enough" content battle.

      The lack of reasonable living spaces in places like Tokyo, New York, San Francisco and Vancouver BC will be the final nail in VR's adoption as people can't afford large-screen televisions let alone 30 sq feet necessary to operate VR equipment.

    7. Re: This is why VR will fail. by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      Stupid question, but...

      If you're moving around while using VR, why don't you run into things and trip over?

      If you aren't moving around, why do you need to carry the 'puter with you?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    8. Re: This is why VR will fail. by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Good questions. You will run into things and trip over things with VR. You can't see. This is why VR is useless, along with the motion sickness because what you "see" in your VM screen doesn't match what your inner ear is sensing.

  3. Serial Experiments Lain did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The unshaven guy looking for the Knights of the Eastern Calculus IIRC. Unfortunately for him, he got more than he signed up for.

    1. Re:Serial Experiments Lain did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But in all seriousness, they should use high(er)-end laptop components instead of a desktop in a backpack. Maybe version 2.0?

    2. Re:Serial Experiments Lain did it first! by Etcetera · · Score: 1

      Re: Serial Experiments Lain did it first!

      The unshaven guy looking for the Knights of the Eastern Calculus IIRC. Unfortunately for him, he got more than he signed up for.

      I came here to post exactly this. Mod parent up :D

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1oAczD98pk&feature=youtu.be&t=4m23s

    3. Re:Serial Experiments Lain did it first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the whopping 1 hour if use? fuck that bullshit.

      ans AMD is catching up to intel, and it's the GPU that matters more here than the CPU

  4. Battery swap. by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    Am I understanding that this is a dual battery system so a battery hotswap would be possible?

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  5. gargoyles! by lkcl · · Score: 2

    welcome to snowcrash by neal stephenson!

    1. Re:gargoyles! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Snowcrash 0.01 Pre alpha... we dont even have 1/500th the processing power nor even 1/50,000th the internet capacity needed to do even early snowcrash.

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    2. Re: gargoyles! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talking about the gargoyles in Snow Crash. Not the whole multiverse.

  6. Great! by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    Is any of those backpacks compatible with the new nVidia GTX 1080 that came out today? And wouldn't using a GTX 1080 give you more hours/minutes with the same batteries?

    1. Re:Great! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, you can probably use the powerful fans to levitate!

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      Ezekiel 23:20
  7. I'll be suprised if VR goes anywhere. by kenj123 · · Score: 1

    I use google streetview a lot, basically as a virtual tourist. I even put together my own little library - museum of my favorite places:
    http://xweb123-001-site1.myasp...
    but I talk to people and I'm shocked at how few(actually none) people are into using google streetview to explore. Although, there are whole web sites devoted to streetview pics of hookers and people urinating in the streets. Quite a few people say its somehow wrong to see the world through streetview and you should go there in person to see it for 'real'. Problem is I only have the budget to see a fraction of the world for 'real'. 90+ percent of the people I talk to only want to do facebook and Netflix on the internet. Maybe VR will take off but it will surprise me.

    1. Re:I'll be suprised if VR goes anywhere. by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      I'm also a VR tourist and Google street view is awesome.

    2. Re:I'll be suprised if VR goes anywhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have a computer even close to capable of VR, but I'm always checking places out in streetview and photo spheres. It's one of the best things on the internet.

  8. what's high end today is low end tomorrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    heh, people were pushing for backpack VR/AR for "high end" systems a few years ago that had less capability than Google Cardboard delivers from my cell phone. what they wanna stuff in a backpack today, will most likely be beaten by a portable handheld sized device as soon as it is believed a significant market exists.

  9. Sweet by bistromath007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can't wait to try "Get Hit by a Bus Simulator."

    1. Re: Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need to take up a collection to get Poettering one of these rigs to do the Bus Crash experience.

    2. Re: Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Willing to donate!
      Hell, willing to work overtime to donate even more!

  10. "...innovative solution..."? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putting a desktop into a backpack, with just an hour's worth of battery, is a bandaid solution.
    Clearly the marketing teams have had a go.

  11. On the go? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    "On the go"? You mean, like... when you're pooping?

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    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    1. Re:On the go? by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      First you have to swallow a 360 degree camera pill though. Pooping yourself out is a unique experience.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    2. Re:On the go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brilliant! I actually want to try this. Of course there is some delay from swallowing before you get to the pooping part.

    3. Re:On the go? by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      Brilliant! I actually want to try this. Of course there is some delay from swallowing before you get to the pooping part.

      Coat the camera with a fast-acting laxative...?

      --
      "I love animals! Some are cute, others are tasty, what's not to like?" - Betsy Schroeder, Jeopardy contestant
    4. Re: On the go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Happy Memorial Day weekend! Eat a dick!

      I'm just having some fun, nothing personal.

  12. Brings glassholes to a whole...nutha...level by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

    You can experience the virtual world... while walking around in the real world...

    Try not to get hit by a bus... Or ... whatever, go ahead..

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    My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
    1. Re:Brings glassholes to a whole...nutha...level by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glassholes weren't assholes because they wear a portable display. They were assholes because they were wearing video surveillance equipment.

  13. Ever seen a Nvidia meme before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good luck carrying around a GTX 1090 that heats up to 100+ C and will break under sudden acceleration of 1G.

    Or maybe you're looking for memes that are a little more old school when it comes to wearable computing...

  14. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More heavy gear to strap on. This just gets better and better.

    1. Re:Great by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      The battery life and weight are no problem, simply set the backpack down on the passenger seat and plug into the car's lighter socket while driving. It should keep the batteries charged for the rest of your life.

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      Nullius in verba
    2. Re:Great by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Would that be the same life time of the typical unfit gamer geek/nerd running around with a back pack playing a very active game, and those batteries lasting those players the rest of their lives ;D.

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
  15. battery swap != uninterupted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So pray tell, how in the world does battery swap equal uninterrupted?

  16. 10 years from now... by kyle3489 · · Score: 1

    Cant wait to look back on this moment in 10 years and LMAO. Oh, virtual boy.

  17. Can't Wait by mentil · · Score: 1

    These were actually announced a while ago. You can make one yourself by putting a gaming laptop inside a backpack (and figuring out how to ventilate it). The upcoming ones are more like NUCs with decent GPUs and big batteries. As GPUs improve, the size/weight/battery draw will shrink, until it can clip onto your belt. Hopefully the HMD will be down to a single thin cable by this point. In the near term, external graphics card docks will be used, as HMD advances will track closely with GPU advances for the next several years.
    An HMD was announced (can't find it now) that uses a usb 3.1 type C cable to connect to a smartphone that you clip onto your waist, which will be the low-power version of the same thing, but I think this form-factor is going to become standard for mobile VR until the processor is so fast (decades from now) it can be put in the HMD itself. Sliding the phone into the HMD imbalances it, and counterweighting it is difficult if the HMD supports multiple models/weights of phone; furthermore, HMDs will eventually have 5k+ resolution screens, overkill for a phone to have otherwise.

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    Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
  18. On the go.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the go it is better to experience the real world around you. Beats any high end VR. Just set the gadgets down by you and breathe deeply the fresh air and gaze wondrously at the blue sky and green trees.

  19. What does mine say? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Watch this cammed video clip for its reference. :P

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    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  20. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like I said, "Why?"

  21. It will get better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A backpack PC may sound pretty silly right now, and it is. For anything more than enthusiasts, a backpack is asking too much IMO.

    However this is one of those things I think we can count on getting better. They'll stream content to a VR headset, or miniaturize the backpack PC, or whatever. It won't stay as a backpack for very long.

    Look, if you go into broadcasting, you wear a microphone (usually) and a wireless transmitter (usually). Do those people complain about how impossible those requirements are? No, both are fairly small and light. They don't impede movement or require you to wear special clothes. And if you don't have that setup then you have a boom mic and all that equipment isn't on you to carry around.

    It will improve from the backpack setup. You can count on that.