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Air, Land, Sea, Cyber: NATO Adds Cyberspace To Operation Areas (phys.org)
An anonymous reader writes from a report via Phys.Org: On Tuesday, NATO decided to make cyber operations part of its war domain, along with air, sea, and land operations. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the decision is not aimed at any one particular country, just that allies need to be able to better defend themselves and respond to computer network attacks. Phys.Org reports: "The decision has been long in coming, particularly amid rising tensions with Russia, which has proven its willingness to launch computer-based attacks against other nations. About a year ago, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter told NATO that it must improve its ability to protect itself before it builds its cyberwar capabilities. And he pledged that the U.S. would used its expertise to help allies assess their vulnerabilities and reduce the risk to their critical infrastructure. In 2014, after years of debate, NATO finally agreed that a cyberattack could rise to the level of a military assault and could trigger the Article 5 protections, which allow the alliance to go to the collective defense of another member that has been attacked. New research from the Pew Research Center shows that cyberattacks are the second most-feared entity among Americans after ISIS.
Spies have been around since before "air" and did much the same thing: information warfare. If IW wasn't a domain before computers there's no reason for it to be a domain now. the only new situation is programs that make decisions without human intervention and for the moment that's a very few drone, missile, and Close In Weapons Systems.When robot armies march o'er the land and are making tactical decisions this will make sense, but not before. This meaningless posturing is going to cost billions.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
This this an air test, sea cyber test, and land test post. Thank you
From the Halls of Montezuma
To the Shores of Tripoli;
On Apples and PCs
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land and sea;
And the Internet too!
New research from the Pew Research Center shows that cyberattacks are the second most-feared entity among Americans after ISIS.
Huh, I guess the frequent barrage of Chinese/Russian/criminal hacker stories in the press have had their intended effect after all.
If they just add space, they can have C.L.A.S.S.
That is the way of their kind.
"Pew Research Center scares old people who answer their home phones into answering loaded survey questions about cyber attacks."
Defence against 'computer network attacks', that would be like trying to stop their Microsoft Windows computers being hacked. No one in their right minds would put Microsoft Windows anywhere near a war domain. Have they that short a memory:
Software glitches leave Navy Smart Ship dead in the water
Technical Analysis of the August 14, 2003, Blackout:
Slammer worm crashed Ohio nuke plant network
Fear itself because amerkins are such PUSSIES.
Republicans are not whole people.
For more information about NATO taking over the Internet, check out the Internet information site Goatse: http://www.goatse.info
I was appalled to see that Obama is going to use NATO to push the gay agenda through new extra-national censorship laws.
>> New research from the Pew Research Center shows that cyberattacks are the second most-feared entity among Americans after ISIS.
#3 on the most feared list, slighly above manbearpig, is dihydrogen oxide. We MUST ban this dangerous compound now. Think of the children!
http://www.dhmo.org/
Someone haXXord teh gibson!
Save us!!!!!!!!11111oneoneshift+one
How about we spend some of those resources getting the fuck off this rock again, before Buzz Aldrin dies of embarrassment? Maybe we could try that instead of murdering each other and racing to see who can die with the fullest stomach.
NATO attacked Yugoslavia in 1999 to support Islamist terrorists burning churches in Kosovo and cover lies of a certain USA pervert. What NATO country was attacked by Yugoslavia?
Hi, I'm a modern day Cassandra... I've been shouting for years about a solution that can actually fix computer security, and render all this "cyberwar" crap obsolete...
Even the Wikipedia page is a mess, but you'll find the solution buried in it... it's called the Principle of least Privilege, and I figure it's 10 more years of hell before people catch on and actually start to fix things.
It is entirely possible to give users a modern GUI interface which transparently and intuitively allows them to decide which resources a program should be allowed to access, which doesn't add any cognitive load, and results in a system which can't be hacked, given a reasonably careful user. Also, by reasonably careful, I mean someone like your parents - someone who understands how cash and credit cards and social engineering work, and hasn't been scammed out of real money. You don't have to be the NSA to secure your PC, but you do have to have an OS that doesn't trust everything. (Good luck finding one!)
> allows them to decide which resources a program should be allowed to access ...
> an OS that doesn't trust everything. (Good luck finding one!)
We've had that for 15 years. That's called SELinux (Security-enhanced Linux). Other alternatives are gresecurity and AppArmor.
> a modern GUI interface which transparently and intuitively
That's what is missing.
Right now, the easiest tools to use include a default set of rules, then show violations and let you add rules to allow it next time.
Yes, spies have been around forever. What's new is today most organizations can't function without their computer networks. In WWII, the combatants bombed each other's railroad networks, because with the railroad shut down the enemy couldn't move men and materials, production would largely shut down in the affected areas, etc. Today we're even more reliant on computer networks than we ever were on railroad networks.
If an enemy were to do substantial damage to our computer and network infrastructure, that would seriously hamper our economy and our ability to fight a major war (it's hard to build more fighter jets or missiles when the network is down).
In addition, a very prolific spy of the 1950s might steal thousands of pages of documents. Thousands of pages was a major, major haul. Today, thousands of pages is a typical script kiddie. Unit 61398 steals thousands of pages every DAY.
I am the very model of a modern Cyber General
I've information secretive and knowledge technological
I know my way around the tubes and quote the cryptological
From Adi, Bruce and Len to Ron in order alphabetical!
While I wish I could have claimed it as my original that belongs to Arancaytar with this post.
Time to offend someone
The beginning of the Internet was ARPANET.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
DARPA was created in February 1958 as the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) by President Dwight
D. Eisenhower.
It was paid for by American taxpayers obviously. What you have in America right now is a sham
government with unholy ties to the European Union. The entirety of NATO is run by crooked politicians
in America and in the EU and is functionally commanded by the CIA. The illusion of "being saved by
your government" is blindingly apparent right now. The spooks are the actual terrorists. The entirety
of present cyber conditions are a result of the bad acting and lies that we think of as 9/11.
[queue same mocking of conspiracy theories over and over]
It was George Bush Sr. (CIA lead and President later) and the Saudi Arabian government that
choreographed 9/11. The Jewish monopoly that is the "mass media" was and is 100 percent complicit.
[queue same mocking of nazi's spewing anti-semitism over and over]
What has been going on are those same spies infiltrating corporations and agencies and recruiting more
and more under threat of dangers to themselves and/or their families. Facebook, Microsoft, Google,
Oracle, Cisco, Twitter, and every hodge-podge news source that has a large audience (like this one
used to) is subject to "having a seat". Facebook has users' daily habits, contacts, chats, photos of
family, name it. It is tied to your IP address. Google tracks not only your IP address but the
fingerprint of your browser and desktop resolution and every other thing possible-to-capture about
your web surfing/connections via google analytics and gstatic and a slough of other hostnames. Use
NoScript browser plugin and you can see it, most users (eg. kids) have no clue what this means
unfortunately. Microsoft also has your IP addresses and much of the same information natively that
goes or would go on Facebook if you used it. Apple management is friendlier than you think with China
but their way of spying is similar.
Then you have Oracle which is known to spy at infrastructure level. Also, the guest additions of their
newer VirtualBox VM software love to chat with devices they should not and IP's they should not. Cisco
is where you get into router and backbone level spying. And don't forget your DNS servers and ISP's
and certificate authorities. All accessible to CIA because who are they anyhow? Spooks.
Everything is already tracked unless you're wise. So a story like this about how "oh shoot, NATO
operates in cyberspace now" is another lie.
The punishment for spying is generally death penalty in every country. Espionage, subterfuge, etc.
Spooks are the ones who scare you but they are absolutely scared themselves. Hence the nickname
"spooks". It was and is the "spooks" who concoct all of these asinine plans to take over the world. In
reality all they do is die. They pop up and they die. If their cover is blown, they die. So they
convince the public that you are somehow a conspiracy theorist if you think they even exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_spying
With Facebook if you delete your account, you just can't access your data any more. They still have
it, and do you think they will delete it? You were a fool to put real data there. Fear and blackmail
is spycraft. 9/11 WTC and the recent shooting of 50 homosexuals and many events in between were all
CIA productions.
"The decision has been long in coming, particularly amid rising tensions with Russia, which has proven its willingness to launch computer-based attacks against other nations"
https://www.nsa.gov/
U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter told NATO that it must improve its ability to protect itself before it builds its cyberwar capabilities
talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Most smart nations govs and mils can function just fine without consumer grade computer networks tracked by NATO.
Many have finally understood the NSA and GCHQ interest in all their local networks and communications systems going back to the 1960's.
Why not give the West something creative to find, worry about and read on local servers and watch for the reaction and leaks to the press about exotic projects countered by contractors and the mil?
The ability to keep data on a base or area for select trusted staff is the key to ensuring all other networked data is just everyday expected junk or very complex bait.
ie other nations focus on the smarter human aspect and have placed generations of human spies deep in the more advanced nations govs, mil, contracting and mil educational sectors of other nations. As they are loyal they are not doing it for cash or a passport out after a new years of high risk and often limited collection or access to tainted bait files.
NATO is dreaming that other nations are as connected and network open thanks to low quality private sector contractors and the use of consumer grade telco networks connections over decades.
The real skill was to have actual MI6 or CIA skills to back up any found network data about another nations projects. The West spent all its cash on digital spying and that is now becoming a policy issue. Not having a human side to actually verify found digital files is getting to be interesting. Other smarter nations dont have to use digital networks or can fake messages, create vast fictional projects to be found by the West on an open network. The West was sold on been totally connected and trusting what it finds deep in other nations databases cannot be fully understood.
Who will win? The nations with the best real human spies sitting in meetings, shaping the West's policy as its been made over decades. Having new Western embassy staff "buy" a local spy is often a local trap and ends up on the news, wigs, equipment and 'offer' on display for the worlds press.
NATO has the ability to see other nations moves in real time, but thats often way too late, totally expected and now well understood by most govs and their mils. NATO only has the in country trick of funding NGO's and color revolutions but even that policy of local dissident support is been understood and can now be tracked with local informants and well funded, skilled human counterintelligence.
Other nations can create the 'Thousands of pages" digitally everyday and the West as very few ways of understanding if its true, useful, a trap, limited hangout or useful. Way too many Western contractors and private experts kept on selling the West's mil/gov on digital only methods. Great for their own brands growth, but other useful methods lost too much funding. If all thats been collected from other nations is consumer junk and careful disinformation, more NATO funding is not going to help much other than saving local jobs. Probing of the distant networks is now expected and is finally well understood.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"