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China Tells App Developers To Increase User Monitoring

An anonymous reader writes: The Cyberspace Administration of China has imposed new regulation for the mobile app community, requiring that developers keep a close watch over users and keep a record of their activities. However, the proposed legislation would also prevent apps from requesting unnecessary access to users' contacts, camera, microphone and other spurious installation requests. The regulator introduced the new laws in the name of cracking down on illegal use of mobile platforms for the distribution of pornography, fraud and the spread of 'malicious' content.

47 comments

  1. So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I understanding this correctly? So if I want to use apps on my phone, I will be REQUIRED to let it scan my penis? Isn't that kind of invasive? Like now I can typically opt out of those scans.

    1. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have to be stored as a 64 bit int for mine then!

    2. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if I want to use apps on my phone, I will be REQUIRED to let it scan my penis? Isn't that kind of invasive? Like now I can typically pretend it doesn't, but let it turn on the camera by itself when I'm using my phone while sitting on the can, and let it silently estimate it from the visuals.

      FTFY.

    3. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unsigned of course!

    4. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      *sigh*

      I hate it when people confuse int with double.

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    5. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only 64 bit? mine needs to be stored with uint128_t

    6. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Sique · · Score: 1

      Just to put things in perspective: uint128_t is large enough to store the size of the Universe measured in Planck lengths.

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    7. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think we need to go to u256?

    8. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement?! by Sique · · Score: 1

      You are right. uint128_t gives us about 38 decimal places, which gives us about 1 km in Planck-lengths. The known Universe (46 billion lightyears) would need another 23 decimal places. But with 210 bits (~63 decimal places), we should be safe.

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  2. Porn good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A small number of apps have been exploited by criminal types to spread violence and terrorism, pornographic material, rumours and other illegal information,’ said the regulator.

    Considering China's population problems and the shortage of women there, I'd think the government would want their citizens to get all the porn they want.

    1. Re:Porn good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Considering China's population problems and the shortage of women there, I'd think the government would want their citizens to get all the porn they want.

      Porn is not completely banned in China, but there are restrictions. No erect penises, no exposes clitorises, etc. But if you just want some pics of naked chicks, you can find that easily.

      China certainly isn't as weird about porn as Japan, where even mainstream newspapers and magazines have a few pages of nekkid chick pics, but pubic hair is banned, so the models shave it off. The result is that many boys/men look at these pictures, and think that is "normal", so Japanese women often shave off their public hair to meet that expectation. Japan also has a lot of porn that focuses on various fetishes, like foot fetishes, teen porn, and bondage rape fantasies. But no pubic hair!

      I lived for several years in both China and Japan. While Chinese people have many big differences from the West, they are at least recognizably human. In Japan, I often felt I had been transported to a different planet.

    2. Re:Porn good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No erect penises, no exposes clitorises, etc

      What's a clitoris?

    3. Re:Porn good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Porn good by Dorianny · · Score: 1

      I have never lived in Japan but from what I understand, the shaving of hair is closely associated with prostitution (genital crabs and all) which has largely been legal throughout Japanese history. The ban of it in nude pictures reinforces the idea that these are just lowly prostitutes and not respectable women. If you know one thing about Japan is how seriously they take Social Hierarchy

    5. Re:Porn good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I don't know. Maybe something hiding in the "public" hair?

  3. Obvious translation: by kheldan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "We need to know immediately if anyone is criticizing the government so we can arrest them, and you will comply with this or we will arrest you and your family"

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    1. Re:Obvious translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So basically what an NSL from the FBI does...?

    2. Re:Obvious translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're dramatizing. If you can read chinese, you'd be amazed at how much criticizing and mockery the chinese netizens hurl at the government. The reality is you may get your post censored or deleted, but casual jabs at the government hardly raise any brows.

    3. Re:Obvious translation: by kheldan · · Score: 1

      Yeah sure thing buddy. Meanwhile Chinese prisoners get their internal organs sold off, because the gorram Chinese value human life so much. Do you people not read the news?

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    4. Re:Obvious translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I read the news. I've spent nearly equal parts of my life in china and the west, thus I know both sides of the stories, while you sir are spoon fed by your side of the media only and think you know it all. I don't really want to argue further because I'm not going sway a mind that's already made up and closed. For those who do want a balanced view of the truth, I'll just say the western media's portrayal of china is highly skewed, either intentionally or just playing into a popular stereotype I can't say. Just imagine someone sitting by your door, ready to propagate any bit of negative information from your house to the neighborhood. That's how the majority of news about china is manufactured. And it's done in such a crafty way that the readers think they are drawing their own rational conclusions based on "facts", only that the facts are carefully selected and the conclusions are preset.

    5. Re: Obvious translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50-CENT PARTY MEMBER DETECTED

    6. Re: Obvious translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical response from a bigot. You guys remind me a lot about china before the 80s.

    7. Re:Obvious translation: by kheldan · · Score: 1

      I've spent nearly equal parts of my life in china and the west

      Ah, I see now: You're an agent of the Chinese government, aren't you? Oh and by the way in the above comment I'm talking about the Chinese government, not her people, the vast majority of which want the same thing that people all over the world really want: to be left the fuck alone to live their lives in peace, and to find some sort of happiness. Of course when you have an oppressive authoritarian pseudo-communist criminal organization like that of the Chinese government, nobody can really do that now can they? Go right ahead and shill for the gods-be-damned Chinese government all you want, nobody believes you.

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    8. Re:Obvious translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like I said, your mind is so closed in your dogmatic narrow view, a view fostered by tinted media propaganda, that you can't tolerate any tiny bit of differing opinion. You should really fit well in the china during the cultural revolutions, when anyone who dare say anything good about capitalism is instantly labeled as anti-revolutionary and persecuted.

  4. China is trying to control their internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are there any numbers on the success rate? The damn news is always so one sided! Posting government statements is of no use to us. Where are the stories from the other end that is trying to get around the blockages? What is their success rate? Help us find out how to make censorship as difficult as possible! Let CNN and FOX be the government's paperboy.

  5. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big-endian

  6. Translation by Lirodon · · Score: 1

    You must spy on your users. Except when you're not.

  7. In the Free West... by lingu1st · · Score: 2

    In the Free West, we don't need no stinking government and laws to mandate telemetry.

    1. Re:In the Free West... by matbury · · Score: 1

      I guess the Chinese government feels that they've fallen waaay too far behind US mega-IT corps and the NSA and need to catch up as fast as they can.

  8. Re: So the app will REQUIRE a penis measurement? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Gotta compensate for something?

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  9. That's COMMUNISM! by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Informative

    Meanwhile, in the free west, this is handled by the free market.

    And I may add I am confident that it can be done way more efficient, faster and cheaper, too!

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    1. Re:That's COMMUNISM! by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      It is not any more efficient. It is just that the parasites profiting (both in data [power] and in money), have a different organizational structure.

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    2. Re:That's COMMUNISM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *whoosh*

  10. Yay, fascism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Global edition this time. If the West were any better, sanctions would be imposed. Alas, China would immediately point out the hypocrisy, and be right.

  11. Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's funny how people attack China and Russia (when a similar story was run last week). However, let's not forget who was first with this sort of spying - the European Union with their 2006 Data Retention Directive. Under this directive ISPs and phone companies were required to retain details of all calls, emails and websites visited for a period of 6-24 months and to allow pretty much any department of the government to access this data (even the post office had access):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive

    What we saw from Russia, and what we see from China here, is pretty much the same thing ten years later. When the EU very publicly passed this directive, nobody seemed to care, but when Russia or China do the same thing the average Slashdot comment is, "lulz, the Chinese/Russians are so evil with their state spying".

    Why do Slashdot users pour scorn on the Chinese/Russian governments but celebrate the EU as the bastion of freedom and democracy? It appears rather hypocritical to me that you praise one institution while condemning another, when they're both doing the same thing.

    1. Re:Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cared? I doubt that. All this gestabo shit is total bullshit.

      Are you fucking stupid for coming here with the hypocrasy card? Do you fucknut not realize that all of this is harmful for people everywhere? What, should this and the Russian laws be ignored, just because maybe something similar was passed earlier and you think it was ignored?

      Moron.

  12. Yardstick by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2

    The regulator introduced the new laws in the name of cracking down on illegal use of mobile platforms for the distribution of pornography...

    A good shorthand (ahem) measure of any government / religion / organization / cult / braying mobs' extremism is their absolute obsession with other peoples' sex lives.

  13. "No problem, we're on it" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -- Facebook, probably

  14. In other words Spy, but don't get caught by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The translation is spy on people but don't do anything that might tip them off that you may be doing so.

  15. Re:pela milésima vez... by halivar · · Score: 1

    This post was actually written in Standard Chinese, but due to Slashdot's lack of Unicode support and simple freak chance, it came out looking just like Portuguese instead.

  16. old news by campuscodi · · Score: 1

    pretty late /. in the meantime the hacker has put up for sale another dataset of 9.3 million records

  17. yeah yeah sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah, like the big G is not doing any

  18. Fuck China. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck China.

  19. Just install Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That already does that for you. Now Visual Studio injects telemetry code for you at compile time (Which is true) so you don't have to!

    1. Re:Just install Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take the opening of Person of Interest and change the word "System" to Windows 10.