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Tesla Owner Makes 'Solid Metal Snake' Self-Charging System That Elon Musk Promised (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Nearly two years ago, Elon Musk teased us with a robotic snake that would automatically plug-in and charge your Model S. Well, many months have passed and there has yet to be an official "solid metal snake" available for Tesla owners. So, one Tesla owner decided to make his own autonomous charging station, as spotted by Electrek, that will automatically guide the Model S's charging cable into the waiting receptacle with no human intervention required. The inventor Deepak Mital posted a video showing how it works, and while it's incredibly slow, it does work. Compared to the demo video of the system teased by Elon Musk last year, this version appears much less threatening. Mital calls it the "Evtron," which is controlled with a Raspberry Pi and swings from one side to another before sliding forward to make the connection with the car.

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  1. I hope it has gears by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That way we can make a Metal Gear / Solid Snake joke.

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    1. Re:I hope it has gears by Z80a · · Score: 1

      Come on, its not like Musk do own a nuclear bipedal giant robot able to launch nukes undetected anywhere on the planet.

    2. Re:I hope it has gears by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      Not that we are aware of, at least.

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    3. Re:I hope it has gears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a trump snake one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    4. Re: I hope it has gears by ememisya · · Score: 1

      Nope, also not a snake. More like a carwash gun thingy which goes from side to side. Elon Musk's was probably bad to drop the soap looking metal snake.

    5. Re:I hope it has gears by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Risky click of the day.

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    6. Re:I hope it has gears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CHAPTER 3 CONFIRMED

  2. Promsied? by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 0

    Nothing like a glaring typo in a headline.

    1. Re:Promsied? by BeauHD · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's fixed now, I promsie.

    2. Re:Promsied? by TheReaperD · · Score: 1

      10,000 lashes with a wet noodle for you!

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    3. Re:Promsied? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why a wet noodle and not a metal snake?

    4. Re:Promsied? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      It's too slow.

    5. Re:Promsied? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      The metal snake is being used by his SO.

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  3. TESLA is a snake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and is used as a symbol by the Church of Satan.

    1. Re:TESLA is a snake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      said the grand wizard of the KKK.

  4. does seem pretty slow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Pretty slow is right. I would have thought he'd do something closer to the musk version, that is, pop the lid earlier, and use the light ring for all the movement, rather than an align-extend-pop-align-insert method.

  5. Two Years? by Latentius · · Score: 2

    Nearly two years ago...

    The linked article isn't even one year old...

    For a second there, I thought I was crazy and losing track of time.

    1. Re:Two Years? by Latentius · · Score: 1

      Whoops, guess they're just talking about the first off-hand mention of it, not the actual demonstation from less than a year ago.

    2. Re: Two Years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Key word is "nearly".

    3. Re: Two Years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yfw: It's nearly 4 millennia old

  6. Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Let's face you: you better learn a fucking second language, and it'd better be Chinese.

    America's lost it, we'll never be great again. Buy a car that was made in China-- oh, wait, you already did-- get a Sony television, and hold onto your iPhone tight, because the next one you buy'll be made by SamSung. It's inevitable, the future belongs to the land of the rising sun: porn cartoons, bullet trains, samurai, and all that shit. It's the future, man. I hope you're gonna be able to speak the language.

    1. Re:Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      diolei loumo, bitch.

    2. Re: Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh...Samsung is South Korean, they're pretty different to Chinese in more ways than just living in an entirely different country and speaking an entirely different language.

    3. Re: Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Korea is a province of China. Like New Jersey or Porto Rico in the US.

    4. Re:Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I remember in the 1980s we were all going to get taken over by the Japanese and we would all need to speak Japanese. Never happened.

    5. Re:Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't tell if conflating China, Korea (Samsung), and Japan (rising sun, samurai, etc.) was an intentional joke or just ignorance. Well done.

    6. Re: Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're confusing Taiwan with Korea

    7. Re:Nihao, bitches!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL, is this like a parody of those chinese nationalist twats that sit around dropping acid and trolling all day?

  7. hope so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I patented the idea years ago.

  8. Not really comparable by Cyberax · · Score: 5, Informative

    The snake design for Tesla's video is intentional, it's clearly designed for superchargers. And supercharger cables are very heavy and not really flexible, so if you attach them at only couple of points then you'll quickly get issues with wear and stress. A metal jointed snake can much easier redistribute the stress and also it can tolerate fault of a several joints.

    1. Re:Not really comparable by geekmux · · Score: 2

      The snake design for Tesla's video is intentional, it's clearly designed for superchargers. And supercharger cables are very heavy and not really flexible, so if you attach them at only couple of points then you'll quickly get issues with wear and stress. A metal jointed snake can much easier redistribute the stress and also it can tolerate fault of a several joints.

      Care to provide some specifics around your definition of "very heavy" here?

      I'm just curious if we need to start doing physicals at the dealership so that owners of these vehicles can actually charge the damn things. Do I need to be able to lift 50 pounds over my head or something?

      If it's far from being unwieldy, then I see this as yet another "solution" for a non-problem that lazy humans invented. Why is it that I keep envisioning a future where humans weigh on average 300+ pounds, all because their lives have been meticulously designed for no one to have to lift a damn finger to do anything. Cue the drone-powered spoons to feed me...

  9. Looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a Brazilian tranny's dick. I've seen some trannies with hogs twice the size of normal men's, and they can move it!

    1. Re:Looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      It's Elon Musk's dick after everyone on Slashdot gets done sucking it.

    2. Re:Looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      said AmighyWind that is busy doing the kock bros and getting his head bashed against the wall.
      So, cocksucker, did you lose your job at ULA yet? If not, just wait. ULA will continue to lose launches as assholes like you continue to fuck up.
      And I doubt that the cock bros are going to pay you for what you enjoy doing.

  10. THANK GOD! by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    It's about time, The are so difficult to plug in and it's so heavy.. I'm surprised most electric cars are ever plugged in the connectors are s obig and heavy and difficult to use.

    I'm calling bull on it being "automatic" that video is of someone off screen driving it. you can see reflections of a person off to the left monkeying with it and you can see it being very jerky as if a person is trying to get it adjusted right.

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    1. Re:THANK GOD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean. I have a plug in hybrid, and when I get home from work I have to call 2-3 Mexicans to come over and help plug the fucking thing in. It's ridiculous how heavy these are, with their giant 200 pound connector. And if you don't line it up just right, the car AND the EV charger both explode and rain down fire and brimstone on everything within a 4 block radius. I can't believe the UL even approved this shit.

    2. Re:THANK GOD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't matter, it's almost a complete joke to call that automatic. This is an extremely simple DIY robot that moves along two joints. Lego's beginner robots are more complex than this system and it looks like this robot needs to be 100% manually aligned. It would be easier to just have it mounted on a swing arm and you manually swing it into place and push. That's all this robot does, but very slowly.

      I don't have a Tesla. Does the charging port automatically open when the plug is near or did a human click a button for that to happen?

  11. Nothing like buttery fly hunting by AndyKron · · Score: 0

    It took a Raspberry PI to do that? Nothing like buttery fly hunting with a flame thrower.

    1. Re:Nothing like buttery fly hunting by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he could have done it will less, but it is unlikely he could have done it for a lower price than a $5 Pi zero.

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    2. Re:Nothing like buttery fly hunting by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Funny

      He could have gotten the price down cheaper if he just wrote it all with machine code and created his own chips by doing photolithography at his workstation.

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  12. Video by no-body · · Score: 1

    Unknown how it works, what is done to the mechanism, is it doing it by itself or is it hand-steered (looks like it) and what else is happening, how does the car light up and looking at the mirror images reflected on the car.....

    Mechanism is not shown, in particular, how the car receptacle is located etc.

    Way overblown and fake, as it looks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if its timed positioning? That's pretty easy, there are libraries for the arduino, so you just call functions to run the motor for a set duration.

  13. 2 minutes to save less than 5 secs of work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So assuming the video is showing something that is real (i.e., no mechanism is shown) all the guy did was waste his time building a horribly slow device that will waste energy for about 2 minutes to save about 5 seconds of manual labor.

    1. Re:2 minutes to save less than 5 secs of work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, given the choice of a device that takes a bit of time to connect on its own, BUT HAS 100% Transmission,
      VS the wireless which loses more than 60% of the energy,
      I will take this

  14. it swings from the side and moves forward by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article states that it swings from the side and moves forward. But can it adjust up and down to find the charging plug precisely? I'm not being silly here, a Model S has considerable adjustment in the Z axis (driving low is great for feeling sporty and improving mileage, but riding higher can be important for protecting the batteries from speed bumps or other things that could cause serious problems). While you could tell the car to adjust to the highest setting whenever it gets home, I would rather see a snake that can just plug itself in no matter what the current car height is.

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  15. Good thing it's slow, by Hylandr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't bend over to pick anything up in the garage, lest it bring 'user friendly' to new levels.

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    1. Re:Good thing it's slow, by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      New depths, no?

    2. Re:Good thing it's slow, by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      It's going to be the shock of a lifetime that's for sure.

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    3. Re:Good thing it's slow, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AAAAAAHHHHH.

      I am feeling recharged today!

  16. WTF is is the point of this? by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    Would it take more than 5 seconds to just grab the plug by hand and stick it in the receptacle? Jesus Christ, how lazy are people?

    1. Re:WTF is is the point of this? by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

      With self driving cars, will soon come cars without passengers. Think long-haul trucks without drivers. Who's going to "refuel" these trucks for cross-country trips?

      Or consider the self-driving Uber (remember Johnny cab?). At some point during the day, it's going to need to recharge.

      Thinking about it that way, this makes a lot of sense. I'm OK with rich & lazy people paying for the R&D, and shaking out the bugs. Makes for a better product when it's down to my price point.

    2. Re:WTF is is the point of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the guy with automatic windows in his car.

    3. Re: WTF is is the point of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck are automatic windows?

      Electronic, sure, but automatic what?

  17. WTH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you kidding me, that is the dumbest thing I have ever seen and the dumbest idea. Let the humans charge with that port on the car make an automatic charge port that is beyond simple under the car or something, or by touching the side of car and bottom of the car with probes (something?). Why make it with a robot arm? That is much to complicated. Think of wireless charging your phone at home, you just set it on the puck and it charges. If you are in your car and need to charge your phone you use the micro-usb port. I would never make a robot arm to plug a phone into a micro-usb port, that port is for humans.

    Wireless charging and the phone is only an example I do not know if you can charge a car wirelessly without so much loss it is not practical. Then again, could there be too much loss charging the car wireless or should I say without a direct connector?, Humm, a coil has been used to transfer electricity for years. Maybe that is the better way to charge a car.

  18. Fuck charging cables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody asks the questions that are important. When are the swap-in-swap-out batteries that Musk is getting paid for by the government going to be available? And how are they going to be backported to the current models?

  19. Please, when getting close to a charging snake.... by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

    ...be careful of not having anything glowing attached to your pants, or the charging snake could be attired to you, and a very embarassing accident could happen!

  20. What if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if the Solid Metal Snake had to decide between a catastrophic event, that will cause the car to burn to ashes including the lazy ass driver still sitting inside the car, and killing a group of innocent bystanders?

  21. *Fans self* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see the porn industry just got a new toy.

  22. Creepy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How was the original version "creepy"? Why is /. linking to stupid click-bait articles that are written for the common mouth breather?

    Elon's version: "that's slick and flexible for those who aren't perfect at parking..."
    This version: "is that bracket going to scratch the paint just to seat the plug?"

  23. Elon Musk teased us with a robotic snake by Euphorinaut · · Score: 1

    The only maturity in the development of my sense of humor since high school, is that my propensity to spot dick jokes has taken an eerily transhumanist turn.

  24. This just fits with the pattern by bravecanadian · · Score: 1

    of someone else making everything Elon Musk blows hot air about.

  25. and i'll form the, uh by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1

    one Tesla owner decided to make his own autonomous charging station...that will automatically guide the Model S's charging cable into the waiting receptacle... while it's incredibly slow, it does work.

    VOLTRON: [watching at home] No, no, that's good. I like it slow. Oh, yeah, baby. Slower.

  26. Top port by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not put charging port on top surface somewhere and let gravity take care of the weight problem. Only minimal torque would be needed to guide the 'snake' if it's hanging. Just park under it and go. Of course there's waterproofing issues of the port, nothing a proper door and seals can't cover.

  27. This invention doesn't go far enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should also feed people pies through the open window of their vehicle seeing as they're so lazy they can't even perform the simple act of connecting a cable to their car.

    1. Re:This invention doesn't go far enough by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      did you think that this might be an early prototype for charging driverless vehicles.

  28. No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, another post based on a stale youtube video that does not contain any further information besides what we can see.. and we can't see much at all, so let's just fill in all the missing blanks by using our imagination. I mean, it is related to Tesla and has a Raspberry PI in it, so it has to be news, right?

    This 'thing' in the video looks like something an undergrad can whip up in an afternoon. It doesn't appear to be automated, it moves like its manually controlled (and even that looks unstable as hell). How does the car get the signal to open the cover? Why is there no camera on the tip of the plug to guide it? How can it navigate the plug to a different height? What if I the car is not parked at the exact spot this thing requires?

    Essentially, it looks like every aspect that made the "Snake" charger an interesting topic is absent here.

  29. AUTOPILOT, not laziness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THis is not about laziness, but about the vehicle being able to park itself in the garage and then plug itself in.
    Right now, we Tesla ppl can ask our car to pull itself out of the garage and put itself in front of the house. In fact, the vehicle will open/close the garage door on its own. The ONLY thing left, is the plug-in.
    Now, for somebody who is in their 30s or just healthy, this is not a big deal.

    OTOH, for somebody like my in-laws who are in their 80s pushing 90s, it would be useful to have the car pull out on its own as well as park itself.
    In fact, the Model 3 with its coming level 4 Autopilot will enable them to go to the stores and docs on their own. Now, that it can deal with the garage as well, this will solve many issues for them.
    and even for those in their 30s who are alcoholics or drug users (hello Colorado), the model 3 will save a number of lives by keeping drunk/stoned drivers off the roads.

  30. Re:Who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah, not only wasteful, but slow as shit and ugly as all get out.
    In the next 2 years, it will be obvious that EVs have won.

  31. Solid... Metal... Snake? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    I'm sure there's a gaming joke somewhere in there.

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