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Amazon Gobbles Downtown Seattle, Builds Biospheres (bloomberg.com)

Amazon has grabbed more than 15% of Seattle's office space inventory, which a local book author is describing as "the Amazocalypse". And now Amazon is building three "gigantic spheres resembling melted-together Milk Duds in the shadow of their new 500-foot-tall office tower," according to Bloomberg: The 100-foot-tall orbs -- Amazon calls them Biospheres -- will host more than 300 plant species from around the world, creating what the company sees as the workplace of the future. Amazonians will be able to break from their daily labors to walk amid the greenery along suspension bridges and climb into meeting spaces resembling bird nests perched in mature trees... Many of the plants are endangered species, meaning that the spheres double as a conservation project.
Bloomberg talks about the desire of Amazon and other tech companies to stay -- and grow -- in the popular cities "where millennials prefer to live". While the owners of Seattle's Space Needle complain that all the new office towers are blocking views of their tourist attraction, the article also describes how Amazon leased the ground floors of its office buildings to "hand-picked bars, restaurants and coffee shops," transforming it from "a hodgepodge of car dealerships and second-hand stores."

91 comments

  1. Balls by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've always thought high rise structures should have balls.

    I applaud Amazon for choosing an unconventional number.

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    1. Re:Balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      An Amazon representative was quoted as saying "The giant phallus and balls thrusting into the skyline is not in any way giant 'Fuck you' to neighbors, and the odd number of balls should not be interpreted as representative of Jeff Bezos' fetishes."

    2. Re:Balls by transami · · Score: 1

      Wait, who is upset by this? They aren't *that* big.

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    3. Re:Balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'd be nice if they'd help rescue Seattle from its pathetic, 90's-esque, internet connectivity woes when they're done hugging trees and providing testicular-looking safe spaces.

    4. Re: Balls by ericl · · Score: 2

      Testes, testes. One... two... three?!?

    5. Re:Balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always thought high rise structures should have balls.

      Goes well with the "Space Needle" pointing skyward.

  2. After the beast feeds... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    After the beast feeds, it clearly farts bubbles.

  3. Amazonians? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, please don't. Folks are going to show up and expect tall beautiful
    Women who will demand we mate with them or die.

    1. Re:Amazonians? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DEATH BY SNU SNU!

      (Don't shout, it's like typing in all caps)

  4. Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All you'd have to do is locate it outside of town.

    But no, no, you have to do things in the most expensive place possible.

    What's your agenda?

    1. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Because plenty of their employees want to live/work in Seattle.

      Same reason Google, Microsoft and plenty of others have offices in Seattle.

    2. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because plenty of their employees want to live/work in Seattle.

      Then get new employees. Ones who don't demand you spend more on building space while still paying them a high salary.

      Same reason Google, Microsoft and plenty of others have offices in Seattle.

      All the more reason to avoid competition. Just imagine the potential for espionage.

    3. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Then get new employees. Ones who don't demand you spend more on building space while still paying them a high salary.

      You realize that your salary is pretty much the same if you work on one side of Lake Washington or the other at a given company... right?

      More so, I'm sure all have done the math, just as how many Silicon Valley or San Francisco based company has as to if they would be better off relocating to... Detroit (cheap land and homes, and a police force needing some subsidizing, etc).

      All the more reason to avoid competition. Just imagine the potential for espionage.

      That problem exists anywhere. All a tech reporter has to do is know where some employees from this company or that eat lunch and sit near... as alas far too many talk shop, even in public with each other.

    4. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize that your salary is pretty much the same if you work on one side of Lake Washington or the other at a given company... right?

      You realize that I've been talking about cheaper land, not cheaper workers?

      I could have, yes, but I wasn't.

      More so, I'm sure all have done the math, just as how many Silicon Valley or San Francisco based company has as to if they would be better off relocating to... Detroit (cheap land and homes, and a police force needing some subsidizing, etc).

      Ah, you've heard of that plan!

      That problem exists anywhere. All a tech reporter has to do is know where some employees from this company or that eat lunch and sit near... as alas far too many talk shop, even in public with each other.

      You've quite convinced me, we must not only keep them from the public, we must force them to have separate mental identities!

      It's the only way to be safe.

    5. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      They just want a good view of Mount Rainier when it erupts...
      Nothing nefarious about that.
      http://images.summitpost.org/original/531804.jpg

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    6. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      I'm missing all the quotes from Amazon execs complaining about the cost. Why are you such an angry person?

    7. Re: Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically, Microsoft is in Redmond and Google is in Kirkland, though they each have a presence in the city, but not as much as FB and of course Amazon.

    8. Re: Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by DaHat · · Score: 1

      The main campuses yes, however Microsoft and google also have offices in Seattle as well for rather deliberate reasons... Nit to mention oodles if other companies who prefer to be there vs elsewhere.

    9. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Locando · · Score: 1

      Then get new employees. Ones who don't demand you spend more on building space while still paying them a high salary.

      When you're trying to hire from a pool of workers in short supply, you might have to concede to some of their strongest demands. High-paid, highly educated, young workers in the US are disproportionately more likely to want to live in urban environments.

      I realize that that's not for everyone, but for some people it really is a huge factor in making a job desirable. And if these workers are in a position to pick and choose among employers, why shouldn't they get to push for corporate urbanization? It's not as if that's a decision that has negative external impacts compared to the alternatives: It reduces transportation mileage and the resulting energy usage and environmental damage, reduces further development on green space, reduces the need for expensive-to-maintain suburban infrastructure, revitalizes shitty urban neighborhoods, allows for a more cost-effective concentration of government services, and so forth. It can even encourage greater human contact and community building in theory, though my experience with Amazon employees in this regard has been negative. Really the only objective negative is that it costs more, but don't companies have the right to spend money as they see fit to strengthen their future earning potential?

    10. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you're trying to hire from a pool of workers in short supply, you might have to concede to some of their strongest demands. High-paid, highly educated, young workers in the US are disproportionately more likely to want to live in urban environments.

      Exactly the problem we've already identified, these workers have demands, extortion.

      Amazon obviously needs less demanding employees.

      Really the only objective negative is that it costs more, but don't companies have the right to spend money as they see fit to strengthen their future earning potential?

      If you really believed that, you'd not object to Amazon setting up cloning labs to produce the perfect worker.

      Obviously, you don't.

      The only question is why is Amazon going along with it.

    11. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      However Microsoft and Nintendo of America have had and I think still do have campuses in Redmond, Washington across the street from each other, and I think its their main campuses to boot.

    12. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Amazon obviously needs less demanding employees.

      Amazon obviously doesn't think so. More importantly, it seems Amazon doesn't think it can get the quality of employee it wants by locating elsewhere. I don't see why they see it that way, since as far as I know Microsoft and Nintendo of America seem to think Redmond is fine and dandy.

      you'd not object to Amazon setting up cloning labs to produce the perfect worker.

      I wouldn't object.

    13. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Locando · · Score: 1

      When you're trying to hire from a pool of workers in short supply, you might have to concede to some of their strongest demands. High-paid, highly educated, young workers in the US are disproportionately more likely to want to live in urban environments.

      Exactly the problem we've already identified, these workers have demands, extortion.

      God forbid the workers have demands! What they're demanding is good for society. What you want to do to save money, I think is bad for us all. God bless the workers who push the companies to go against the undemanding cogs who knuckle under.

      If you really believed that, you'd not object to Amazon setting up cloning labs to produce the perfect worker.

      Complete absurdity.

      The only question is why is Amazon going along with it.

      Because they're doing their part to dismantle the suburbs bit by bit, just like the young moneyed classes want them to. They have a vision, and personally I think it's beautiful.

    14. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by cusco · · Score: 3, Informative

      Amazon has thousands of employees on hundreds of teams that need to work together. Physical proximity makes that a frack of a lot easier to accomplish.

      Besides, they've got piles of money, why not? The South Lake Union area where the main campus is located was a dump, full of warehouses, abandoned buildings, parking lots, hookers and crack dealers. Today that region is unrecognizable to someone who visited only five or six years ago, in a good way.

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    15. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Angry that "real America" is not getting the jobs but instead the decadent godless liberal urban areas?

    16. Re:Amazon, you could do it for 1/10 the price by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      The South Lake Union area where the main campus is located was a dump, full of warehouses, abandoned buildings, parking lots, hookers and crack dealers. Today that region is unrecognizable to someone who visited only five or six years ago, in a good way.

      Still full of parking lots, hookers, and crack dealers, but now they've got class.

  5. Great idea! by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 2

    Demonstrators will have more glass to break and I'll bet biospheres burn really good. And when they get thirsty, they'll have a great time looting those "hand-picked" bars........

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    1. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, even if they don't get burned down, I'd hate to have to bring mosquito repellent to all of my business meetings.

    2. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as they put a coffee shop inside, the demonstrators won't dare burn it down. Instead they'll sit inside, sip overpriced coffee-scented milkshakes, and rant against the 1%ers for driving up property values.

    3. Re:Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, quit busting my balls!

  6. Space Needle economics by DRJlaw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Meanwhile, the Space Needle's owners have complained that all the towers being thrown up by Amazon and developers hoping to house its workers are crowding out views of the aging tourist attraction.

    Did those owners pay the other property owners to surrender their air rights so that the Space Needle could have unobstructed views, or are they merely trying to seize a right to prevent others from building structures that are equally high? I.e., a real estate version of pulling the ladder up behind you.

    1. Re:Space Needle economics by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Such requirements can also come from government, take the protected views in London: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      It's been something called for in Seattle for years, but isn't official as yet.

    2. Re: Space Needle economics by mspohr · · Score: 0

      The space needle has always been ugly. Time to tear it down.

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    3. Re:Space Needle economics by Locando · · Score: 3, Funny

      My guess would be that they assumed that Seattle would remain sprawly and low-rise, and that any outsiders who wanted to invest in the local economy by building taller buildings would cower in shame and abandon their plans when the population of the city passive-aggressively refused en masse to recognize said buildings as being reflective of the real Seattle, the gritty, honest, unpretentious city that we grew up in, not that you would know anything about that.

    4. Re:Space Needle economics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sight lines are a MAJOR issue for homeowners. In places like the hills above Laguna Beach, you cant just build anything you want and block other's views, you'll get sued for de-valuing their property. I get what you are saying, but its not JUST the Space Needle corporation that might be upset at the changed skyline.

    5. Re:Space Needle economics by cusco · · Score: 4, Informative

      We got to the Space Needle for dinner for our anniversary every summer, and we're of the opinion that the South Lake Union building boom has dramatically improved the view. That used to be a run-down neighborhood of warehouses, abandoned buildings, and parking lots, now it's actually something interesting and attractive to look at. Yeah, the view of the Space Needle is obstructed from some places in that area, but since the only people there much of the time before the new buildings were hookers and crack dealers I don't see it as much of an issue.

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    6. Re:Space Needle economics by synaptic · · Score: 1

      Somebody has been watching too much Burlesque...

  7. Interestingly... by bluegutang · · Score: 3, Insightful

    thanks to investment in public transportation, Seattle actually has less traffic than it did a decade ago, despite its growth in employment and housing.

    According to the Seattle DOT Traffic Report (2015), Seattle added nearly 100,000 people in the decade from 2004-2014, while average daily car traffic in the city fell by some 60,000 trips over the same period. The travel demand created by population and job growth is being absorbed by the transit system

    source

    1. Re:Interestingly... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      A typical afternoon in Seattle traffic would invite you to a reality check.

      Take a sleeping bag and some snacks.

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    2. Re:Interestingly... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Seattle actually has less traffic than it did a decade ago, despite its growth in employment and housing.

      A funny thing happened between 2004 and 2014... The 2008 crash.

      The Seattle area is booming, it's true... But the Great Recession hit this area hard, and in 2014 the area was still recovering. I doubt 2016 statistics would tell the same story.

      I mostly take transit to and from work; but anecdotally I'd say Seattle freeway traffic is worse now than it's ever been. I can say for certain that northbound on I-5 used to be clear sailing as soon as you reached the convention center; but now, more often than not, it's stop and go from Mercer to 520 even at 10am.

      Downtown traffic may be marginally less bad than ten years ago, but that has more to do with Seattle's aggressive push to eliminate downtown parking than the availability of transit.

      But now that I can FINALLY take light rail to UW, it's a moot point in my case. Sounder train and light rail means my commute is no longer dependent on the roads!

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    3. Re:Interestingly... by tipo159 · · Score: 1

      The quoted "source" is a guest column advocating a particular position; it is not a traffic report. In fact, it misrepresents what was behind the reduction in trips in the Seattle DOT traffic report. The author attributes the reduction to increases in use of alternate forms of transportation, but completely ignores an even bigger for reason for the reduction in the number of trips, the Great Recession, which hit in the middle of the reporting period.

      Since 2010, the number of trips has been increasing.

      Here is the actual 2015 Seattle DOT traffic report. Here is the 2015 Washington state DOT traffic report. Check the numbers for yourself.

      Just based on what I have observed, traffic has increased significantly since 2014, but the data does for 2015 does not seem to be available yet to confirm this.

    4. Re:Interestingly... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Not only is it an opinion piece, it shares the common Seattle hubris of claiming leadership in an area where the city has long lagged. How long has Portland or San Francisco or Vancouver had rail transit, versus Seattle? And even getting THAT was a fight. "Finally catching up" would be a much more accurate statement.

      Don't get me wrong - I'm loving the light rail I can finally ride to UW. And I think the region (it's not just Seattle) is finally moving in the right direction. But self-righteous Truthiness abounds in the Pacific Northwest.

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    5. Re:Interestingly... by OrigamiMarie · · Score: 1

      Tell that to my commute, which has gotten significantly slower over just the past year. Home in north Seattle -> work in Bellevue. More miserable by either bus or car, and the 520 bridge replacement is currently traffic neutral versus a year ago (sure there have been hiccups, but right now we're using the same number of lanes on the west end of the bridge).

    6. Re:Interestingly... by Nethead · · Score: 1

      That's why I'm making about $20k less than I could, if I went to Seattle or the East side. I live in Tulalip and commute to Everett, about 15 minutes, with a stop for coffee. I worked the dotcom boom and bust in downtown Seattle, it was hard enough back then to commute from Edmonds. I just couldn't do it anymore even with the Sounder train that sometimes runs.

      Having those extra 3 hours in my life, each day, make the reduced rate worth it.

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    7. Re: Interestingly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I commute from downtown Seattle to Bellevue and it takes me about 45 minutes to get to work and 45 minutes to 3 hours to get home from work. Seattle traffic sucks major balls.

    8. Re: Interestingly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Seattle prides itself on its buses. Well don't let the word get out, but my bus - which arrives every 15 minutes - generally only has between 2-5 people on it. I have even been the sole occupant a few times. What a royal gargantuan waste.

    9. Re:Interestingly... by Locando · · Score: 1

      I would add in a penchant for denying reality — can anyone in their right mind say that doing the commute across the I-90 bridge is in any way pleasant? And yet people seemed (when I was living there a year ago) to tolerate the way the traffic on it would clog up seemingly at random, or become predictably abysmal before a Seahawks game, and render the buses immobile as well. The bicycle infrastructure is mediocre, too. Is it just low expectations, or a refusal to believe that the Seattle mindset about growth and development would have serious consequences, or what?

      I've lived in about a dozen cities in the US, and Seattle is by far the weirdest about squaring how ideal they think they are with the actual situation on the ground. What makes it particularly incomprehensible is that they are doing a lot of things right, yet there's a weird collective defensiveness about criticism of the Seattle Way. Or, really, about outside input on anything. You're supposed to think they're doing everything perfectly, yet as an "outsider" you're not supposed to want to join them in celebrating their supposed perfection and moving there. I don't get it.

    10. Re:Interestingly... by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Seattle traffic is utterly awful. The public transportation is quite nice (compared to other U.S. cities at least) but the traffic is abysmal and has been getting worse. The city has ranked in the top ten cities for worst traffic for a while now. The geography and city layout pretty much makes it impossible for the traffic not to suck.

    11. Re: Interestingly... by OrigamiMarie · · Score: 1

      They're badly distributed. When I commute by bus instead of carpooling (no driving for me, with my vision), it's usually somewhere between 3/4 of seats filled and all-standing-room-taken. Also, they are never on time and the tracking systems have no clue where they are half the time.

    12. Re:Interestingly... by jimmydigital · · Score: 1

      thanks to investment in public transportation, Seattle actually has less traffic than it did a decade ago, despite its growth in employment and housing.

      According to the Seattle DOT Traffic Report (2015), Seattle added nearly 100,000 people in the decade from 2004-2014, while average daily car traffic in the city fell by some 60,000 trips over the same period. The travel demand created by population and job growth is being absorbed by the transit system

      source

      Yea... not so much. Going from Belltown to the interstate which is maybe 1 or 1.5 miles downtown,depending on how you go, can routinely take 30+ minutes. That's just to get out of downtown. The other 10 miles of my north bound commute takes about 20 minutes most days.

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    13. Re: Interestingly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're badly distributed. When I commute by bus instead of carpooling (no driving for me, with my vision), it's usually somewhere between 3/4 of seats filled and all-standing-room-taken. Also, they are never on time and the tracking systems have no clue where they are half the time.

      So half 75% capacity and half 100%+ capacity? Call it 85%. That is pretty high utilization and sounds like the place could use more mass transit capacity.

    14. Re: Interestingly... by cusco · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You live in Bellevue and drive downtown? You're a moron. From the Eastgate Park & Ride it's 25 minutes on the bus, and they run every 8 minutes at peak hours.

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    15. Re: Interestingly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chooses to live in downtown and complains about traffic.

      Shoot this one.

  8. Yes. by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    ...host more than 300 plant species from around the world.

    Though it smacks of medieval royalty's penchant for importing the rarest of beasts from farthest flung points in the realm.

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    1. Re:Yes. by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2

      You mean zoos?

    2. Re:Yes. by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      More like collections.

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    3. Re:Yes. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      I think the term you are looking for would be menagerie.

  9. Give it time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... will host more than 300 plant species from around the world ...

    So Amazon will have massive maintenance costs from such a unique building design plus the cost of tending endangered plants. What happens when Amazon wants to cut costs, downsize, or just 'return to core functions'? Will the municipal council take over the park-lands? Will Amazon demand corporate welfare or just gut/burn the park-lands?

    This is like the monorail craze of the '80s; How about some future-proofing?

  10. 300 different plants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Few things:

    Who will take care of them all? I doubt local landscaping companies are familiar with exotic endangered plants from all over the world.

    No doubt many of the plant seeds and pollen will get out with workers walking around it all day. I fear there could be invasive species among the 300+ plants from all over the world.

    What's wrong with second hand stores? Don't millennial hipsters brag about half priced books and such.

    1. Re:300 different plants by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      +1 Mod Insightful.

      I was thinking the same thing about the invasive species of plants that could literally decimate our ecosystem or even potentially bringing hitchhikers in the form of snakes, spiders, fungi and other plant-threatening diseases that our flora and fauna would have no defense against.

      While this is an 'enlightened' gesture it's a bad fucking idea.

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    2. Re:300 different plants by metaforest · · Score: 1

      No one would even notice. The default vegetation for most of the PNW is blackberry.

  11. Undelivered package by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Amazon package was marked by USPS as delivered today but it's nowhere to be seen. I understand the feeling behind "Going Postal"..

  12. Linux: 2%, blatant exploitative consumerism: 15% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never leave work. Enjoy the freedom of our garden, meet in our trees, breathe our air. Besides, where would you go? Home?

  13. Sounds Good But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds nice at first, but like moving next to a lake, soon you're overrun by insects. I'd never work in an office building where I had to swat at real bugs during a meeting nor want to risk bird shit seeping down my monitor's vent holes. I'd also prefer not to be brought up on federal charges if I accidentally kill an office plant.

  14. Pat yourself on the back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazon: Just an over-glorified Wal-Mart

  15. Re:Linux: 2%, blatant exploitative consumerism: 15 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Never leave work. Enjoy the freedom of our garden, meet in our trees, breathe our air. Besides, where would you go? Home?

    You've heard of capsule hotels? Amazon could build capsule apartments in the basement and rent them to their employees at a merely exorbitant rate.

    So there's your home. If you're tired, you can nap in your capsule and go back to work refreshed. You'll never have to leave the building.

    They could even rent out space to a mortuary and crematorium. When you die they can cremate you and ship your remains to your closest relatives, free shipping if they're Pime members.

  16. What is the point by superdude72 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Biosphere. God, what a metaphor! In other words, a self-contained inhabitable zone shielded from the harsh environment of--gasp--Seattle.

    The whole point of locating in a city is to be part of the city. Let your employees meet for lunch at a local restaurant that hasn't been hand-picked by Amazon's Director of Restaurant Planning. Use the transportation system that the locals use, improving it for everyone in the process. Go to a public park to chill out, rather than a private park reserved for Amazon employees.

    This kind of office park is all over Silicon Valley. To someone who's never worked in this environment, it sounds like a huge perk. But having worked in an environment like this, I'd rather just work in Seattle, not in a biosphere surrounded by Seattle.

  17. seattle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 100-foot-tall trumps -- Amatrump calls them Biotrumps -- will host more than 300 trump species from around the world, creating what the trump sees as the workplace of the future. Amatrumps will be able to break from their daily labors to walk amid the trump along suspension trumps and climb into meeting spaces resembling trump nests perched in mature trees... Many of the plants are endangered trumps, meaning that the trumps double as a conservation project.

    Side note: Of course they need to build these "biodomes", after helping to wipe out zillions of acres of native habitat. Right? Makes total sense. While it's nice hosting species from around the world, how about rebuilding NATIVE plant populations and NATIVE habitats, i.e. by not crushing them with idiotic quarters for your slave labor work force.

  18. Megacorps by JanneM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One one hand, revitalizing city centers is not necessarily a bad thing. On the other, this starts to smell a little of Shadowrun-style megacorporations (or of industrial-era company towns).

    Live and work your entire life within the protective confines of your employer. Go to the company school, work at the company office, live in company housing paid for with a company-bank supplied mortgage, dine at your choice of company restaurants, vacation at the company resort, get a company funeral...

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    1. Re:Megacorps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remind me where Shadowrun was set...

    2. Re: Megacorps by kellymcdonald78 · · Score: 1

      At least it's better than a 200 story black pyramid

    3. Re: Megacorps by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      At least it's better than a 200 story black pyramid

      Debatable.

  19. Check out the Amazocalypse Sketches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The one with him pulling the building outs of the ground to find the Space Needle is pretty cute https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jeffreifman/zoe-and-the-amazocalypse-daddy-wheres-the-space-ne

  20. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the hell wants to live near Seattle anyway?

  21. Reality? by kqc7011 · · Score: 1

    The employee's will "walk amid the greenery", in other words they will be able to go outside without going outside.

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  22. Zucks turn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait for the Facebook Book Building. I hope it's like the books with cutouts inside like in Shawshank.

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  24. Re:Seattle vs Flyover country by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Makes me glad I live in Indiana, part of flyover country, just south of Indianapolis where Google maps actually can direct you to less congested routes, and we have Gas Buddy. I forget what the gas prices I saw today were, but most of them were under $2 Goodwill Stores have their half-off first Saturday of the month deals and there are quite a few in reach. I pigged out on buying books. Bought 3 DVDs too. Scrooge, the best version of A Christmas Carol I've seen, the director's cut of Daredevil, and a Jackie Chan movie. My home library is nearly "complete". I need to buy more bookshelves. I just replaced the 720p 20-something (24 I think) inch screen TV I was using as a monitor with the 32 inch. 1080p screen TV I thought was all we needed as the main TV in the same room as my computer until I couldn't see some details I wanted to see, so I replaced it with a 40 inch. Got it from Walmart. Don't know what I'd do with 4K resolution. Got this great glass top computer desk at Goodwill. Maybe that life's not for you. But traffic? Not ever that bad, if you let Google Maps advise you.

  25. Nests in trees? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

    Amazonians will be able to break from their daily labors to walk amid the greenery along suspension bridges and climb into meeting spaces resembling bird nests perched in mature trees... When the chickens come home to roost...

  26. Only an afternoon? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    Just be glad you don't live in Beijing where you may need to bring food and water for 10 days.

  27. Amazon making Seattle more miserable by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2

    Seattle misery: HUGE problems with traffic. New construction makes the traffic worse. Amazon and Microsoft abusing employees. Shockingly slow internet connections.

    Amazon: Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (February 23, 2014)

    Microsoft: Microsoft Is Filled With Abusive Managers And Overworked Employees, Says Tell-All Book (May 23, 2012)

    Traffic: Seattle one of the worst U.S. cities for traffic congestion, tied with NYC (March 31, 2015) Quote: "An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic may not sound like much, but when it adds up over a year it becomes 89 hours." (Whoever wrote that must be accustomed to Seattle misery. An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic sounds HORRIBLE.)

    Slow internet: Many areas of Seattle have poor internet connections. See the article, These places have the slowest Internet in the country. (June 25, 2015) Quote: "... Seattle ... CenturyLink (CTL) customers trying to access particular sites from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. will have unbearably slow speeds."

    1. Re:Amazon making Seattle more miserable by cusco · · Score: 1

      Seattle traffic is part of the reason that we have a decent bus system, the other part being Seattle parking. I can drive downtown from home in 10-20 minutes, then spend 15 minutes and $10 to park. Alternatively I can spend $3 and 25 minutes on the bus (well, free actually since my employer pays for my bus pass). Guess which one I generally prefer?

      When we first moved out here I was complaining to my mother about traffic and she asked, "Well, why don't they just build more roads?" Since they were planning to come out and visit in a couple of months I told her that she would have an answer to her question soon. They came out and after seeing floating bridges across the lake, highways elevated 15 meters above an almost perpendicular hillside, bridges 50 meters above a canal that cuts the city in half, and hills that would be ski slopes back in the midwest she said, "Oh, I guess I understand now."

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  28. Good While It Lasts by cmholm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There was a time when Seattle seemed to be headed towards a Boeing economic mono-culture of sorts, and when company employment cratered in 1970, the whole region felt it. At such point as something awful happens to Amazon - say, shareholders demanding a reasonable profit - it could get a bit dark in the CBD.

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    1. Re:Good While It Lasts by cusco · · Score: 1

      Bezos' idea up to now has been to keep declared profit to a minimum or negative in order to not have to pay taxes, and just plow that money back into the business. Not a bad strategy, as it improves the stock value that most shareholders are more interested in. Amazon Web Services is now bringing in so much money that they've had to declare a profit (and pay a bunch of taxes) the last couple of years in spite of the money they're spending building. I would be very surprised if AWS isn't spun off in in the next couple of years.

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  29. Why allow excessive density? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that there is a general problem with how humans manage cities. Population density is allowed to become so great that cities become miserable.

    Portland, Oregon now has constant traffic jams. A short ride from downtown Vancouver, WA across the bridge to Oregon required 6 minutes 44 seconds in 2012. It required 25 minutes 7 seconds in 2015, almost 4 times worse. See I-5-Study. (PDF file, See page 3.)

  30. Shadowrun Inception? by Chas · · Score: 2

    Waiting for them to change the company name to "Renraku".

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    1. Re:Shadowrun Inception? by johannesg · · Score: 1

      That's what I was thinking as well ;-) The balls don't seem overly big though. You barely notice them next to the neighbouring high-rises...

  31. Space by synaptic · · Score: 1

    This fits nicely with Blue Origin. It's one thing to get to space but you're going to need habitats and biospheres and other large scale structures once you get there. Bezos has talked about moving industrial activities off Earth along with mining asteroids.

    I suspect they will learn a thing or two about building these structures on Earth that will be applicable to the longer-term goals of the space-faring Bezos.

  32. Paved paradise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They took all the trees, and put them in a tree museum
    And they charged the people a dollar and a half each to see 'em

    - Joni Mitchell, Big Yellow Taxi

  33. My first thought was of Paolo Bacigalupi by alfredo · · Score: 1

    He wrote a novel called, "The Water Knife." It is his second novel after "The Windup Girl." About "The Water Knife" to see why it popped into my head. http://www.goodreads.com/book/...

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  34. Amazon have lost their drive ... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
    .. if they can do a half-assed job of something that the Belgians (Belgians, FFS!) did better in 1958.

    Amazon - the thrusting company for Millennials who want to work for 1950s ideas. Their (Amazon, not Belgium's) death must be nigh.

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