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China Finishes Building Its Alien-Hunting Telescope

Work has finished on the world's largest radio telescope, which will hunt for extraterrestrial life and explore space, reports Chinese news agency Xinhua. The world's most populated nation fitted the final of 4,450 panels into the centre of the 500m-wide Aperture Spherical Telescope, or FAST, over the weekend. The telescope, which cost $180 million -- and took five years to build -- will be switched on from September. Zheng Xiaonian, deputy head of the National Astronomical Observation under the Chinese Academy Sciences said:The project has the potential to search for more strange objects to better understand the origin of the universe and boost the global hunt for extraterrestrial life.Gizmodo adds:FAST is almost twice as large as the next biggest radio telescope, which is in Puerto Rico. It will be used for early-stage research by Chinese scientists for a couple years, and then be used more widely. FAST is capable of detecting gravitational waves, pulsars and, eventually, amino acids on other planets.

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  1. What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It has long been assumed that when First Contact were to happen, it would involve representatives of the American government involved, speaking on behalf of the entire planet.

    But what if it were actually the Chinese who made First Contact? What if the aliens end up being forced to work in factories, making shoes up to 18 hours a day?

    1. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God help us if China makes for our first impression. The planet would be blown up straight away (and I wouldn't blame the aliens).

    2. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/968775.Black_Star_Rising

    3. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by hyades1 · · Score: 0

      "What if the aliens end up being forced to work in factories, making shoes up to 18 hours a day?"

      No doubt the aliens will appreciate knowing the fruits of their labour will be sold in Walmart to people who would rather save a couple of bucks than pay a little more and help provide a job for a fellow American.

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    4. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Maritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be fair, I'd rather be unfairly judged by an alien looking at a chinese guy than one of you guys. Nothing personal.

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    5. Re: What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Ur-Quan (Kzer-Za if you want to be specific) will be surprised at the immediacy of such a demand before they even gave their formal introduction. In accordance with their Doctrine, Earth will be placed under a slave shield as they move on to the next inhabited star.

    6. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Maritz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Capitalism in a nutshell. Don't buy the cheapest. Buy something more expensive, but benefits someone that you like. Because it's always really easy to tell where the money is going.

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    7. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why do you think we would want the country that consumes the most resources, produces the most waste, is on the sharpest decline of awareness of the surrounding world, waging the most wars and conducts the most espionage on other countries, while subjecting its population to monitoring and surveillance and treats them all as potential enemies, to represent and speak on behalf of the entire planet should a first contact be established? Only an American would think that makes sense.

    8. Re: What if the Chinese make First Contact? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Best. Computer game. Ever.

    9. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by hyades1 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Are you really so simple-minded you don't understand how having others in your community who are employed and paying taxes actually benefits you more than having them out of work and consuming your tax dollars?

      And yes, in cases Walmart, it actually is really easy to tell where the money is going.

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    10. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Coisiche · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It has long been assumed that when First Contact were to happen, it would involve representatives of the American government

      You mean it has long been portrayed in English speaking movies that are invariably made in the USA.

    11. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, I'd rather be unfairly judged by an alien looking at a chinese guy than one of you guys. Nothing personal.

      It will be amusing when the Chinese find out that capitalism has conquered the stars, not just China.

    12. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think we would want the country that consumes the most resources, produces the most waste, is on the sharpest decline of awareness of the surrounding world, waging the most wars and conducts the most espionage on other countries, while subjecting its population to monitoring and surveillance and treats them all as potential enemies, to represent and speak on behalf of the entire planet should a first contact be established? Only an American would think that makes sense.

      Because we get shit done.

    13. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by hackingbear · · Score: 4, Funny

      But what if it were actually the Chinese who made First Contact? What if the aliens end up being forced to work in factories, making shoes up to 18 hours a day?

      Then the American government will cite it as another evidence in its annual Human Right Report and promptly deport those aliens to Mexico.

    14. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Nothing you said, nothing at all, stands in comparison to the horrible fucking shit that the chinese government and the people of china get up to.
      Fuck china and fuck anyone who defends it.

      Signed, not an american.

    15. Re: What if the Chinese make First Contact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it might be better we help them work then we try to sell them stuff, threaten to blow them up if they don't buy and then export all our jobs to them when they concede. 'Murica fuk yea.

    16. Re:What if the Chinese make First Contact? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      "What if the aliens end up being forced to work in factories, making shoes up to 18 hours a day?"

      Perhaps the aliens have been programmed to love being slaves, and they will be transported to religious ecstasy by the knowledge that the fruits of their labour will be sold in Walmart to people who would rather save a couple of bucks than pay an extra dollar or two to provide a jobs for their fellow Americans.

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  2. It's called "Arecibo" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What's with the vague "the next biggest radio telescope, which is in Puerto Rico"? I would expect most people on Slashdot would know it's called Arecibo Observatory, and recognise it from Contact (or GoldenEye).

    1. Re:It's called "Arecibo" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's with the vague "the next biggest radio telescope, which is in Puerto Rico"?

      There is nothing vague about this statement. Everyone who has had a little bit of scientific education in school knows that up to now the biggest single dish radio telescope was in Puerto Rico. I grant you that most americans are scientifically challenged these days and wouldn't know an anode from a cathode so that being more precise could be helpful. But c'mon, if you know about the Hubble you have to know about Arecibo (Contact film notwithstanding).

    2. Re:It's called "Arecibo" by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There isn't really anything gained by the more specific term. Those in the know will already understand that the reference is to Arecibo, and those who do not know will have one less thing to Google.

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    3. Re: It's called "Arecibo" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The RATAN-600 is the largest radio telescope in the world, it has a 600m diameter aperture. It is more sparse than FAST or Arecibo, but still technically larger.

  3. Bond, James Bond.... by mrops · · Score: 1

    Well, will the next Bond movie be shot there?

    Say it, you were thinking it too.

    1. Re:Bond, James Bond.... by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      This could be a great idea - the Chinese make contact and start dealing with extraterrestrials. It could be the first James Bond science fiction movie - he's never tangled with space aliens before.

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    2. Re:Bond, James Bond.... by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      No aliens, but what about Moonraker? If that's not Bond-science-fiction, I don't know what is.

  4. Nefarious reasons by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course you'd like to think the Chinese wish to be the first to contact aliens to ensure that a cultured, civilized race be the first to make contact. The real reason, however, is they want to be the first to find out if ground up alien pseudo-pods increase your libido and if alien tastes better than cat.

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    1. Re:Nefarious reasons by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Of course you'd like to think the Chinese wish to be the first to contact aliens to ensure that a cultured, civilized race be the first to make contact.

      There may be other reasons... Guys, if you make contact

      DO NOT ANSWER! DO NOT ANSWER!! DO NOT ANSWER!!!

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    2. Re:Nefarious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      China is the most peaceful super-power, while the U.S. is the least peaceful, along with all the objectively bad things about that nation. Obviously, China is who we want to establish first contact, if it will ever happen.

    3. Re:Nefarious reasons by Dunbal · · Score: 1, Insightful

      racist

      Racist? So it's a fabrication that "traditional Chinese medicine" uses a lot of weird shit to make impossible claims? Is it completely untrue that many Chinese still eat animals people in the West might consider pets? These are all fabrications? LIGHTEN UP A LITTLE. Or go hide in your safe space.

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    4. Re:Nefarious reasons by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      If they continue on their current trajectory, they will indeed be a super-power. Whether they remain peaceful is anyone's guess.

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    5. Re:Nefarious reasons by NotInHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So it's a fabrication that "traditional Chinese medicine" uses a lot of weird shit to make impossible claims?

      Its a global issue. In the USA, you have people who think the earth was created six thousand years ago, and evolution is wrong. Would you want them to make contact?

      Is it completely untrue that many Chinese still eat animals people in the West might consider pets?

      Yes, just as many westerners still eat animals that people in India might consider to be sacred cows. Also, we poison animals that people in India think to be holy as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Its just a cultural thing.

      In fact, all the science fiction movies/books have some US agency dissecting the aliens. Its not the chinese who dissect (or eat) them, its the some branch of the US Government.

      Living in a western country, I would obviously prefer that the USA made first contact rather than china, but that still doesn't mean that china will do a horrible job at it, or would first eat the aliens or something.

    6. Re:Nefarious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If they continue on their current trajectory, they will indeed be a super-power. Whether they remain peaceful is anyone's guess.

      Has the US remained peaceful after WW2 ? There is your answer. Superpower China will assert itself, maybe not on the world stage but in its backyard it's a given. American consent or not, Southeast Asia will dance to the Chinese tune sooner or later.

    7. Re:Nefarious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is the most peaceful super-power, while the U.S. is the least peaceful, along with all the objectively bad things about that nation. Obviously, China is who we want to establish first contact, if it will ever happen.

      Until we find out that China's nine-dash line extends to outer space.

    8. Re:Nefarious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah .. China ..*yawn* Been, lived there.
      They'd want to make an alliance with the aliens to have the west obliterated and colonised by aliens, and then for the Chinese and aliens to make fine gourmet snacks out of western people and get the Africans to fight lions in the octagon. They'd then move onto buying and selling the aliens, if they got the chance.

    9. Re:Nefarious reasons by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      So it's a fabrication that "traditional Chinese medicine" uses a lot of weird shit to make impossible claims?

      Its a global issue. In the USA, you have people who think the earth was created six thousand years ago, and evolution is wrong. Would you want them to make contact?

      I think that would be a good idea. I've never seen someone's head explode, without duct-taping a hand grenade into their mouth first. But this way - I might.

      Hey, if you're going to do vivisection, what's the point in using anaesthetics and non-sentient subjects?

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  5. Re:Happy Freedom Day by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Course, you lot were saying that while you were cracking whips. No irony lost then either. ;)

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  6. its looking up uranus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what you get!

  7. EVERY Bond movie is science-fiction. by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

    It's just that the general public doesn't realize that "cigarette lighter laser with enough stored energy to burn through armor" is perhaps more farfetched than "alien invaders".

    1. Re: EVERY Bond movie is science-fiction. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only for limited minded 21st century physicists who keep performing the same experiments and expecting different results. Modern physics is the true definition of insanity.

  8. Easier way to spot aliens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... go to your nearest international airport, port of entry, or border crossing.

    Easier way to find sentient - although not necessarily intelligent - life that could not possibly be from this planet based on what they say, think, and do: Go to the next meeting of the National People's Congress if you are in China, or the equivalent political body in your own country.

    Captcha: imagine

  9. Dear China by onyxruby · · Score: 1

    More of this and less censorship.

    Regards,
    The rest of the world

  10. also, NSF is de-funding Arecebo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not only is the Chinese facility twice as large, but the Arecibo telescope's funding is going away. and the NSF is desperately looking for someone to take it over. The NSF's funding has been flat for quite a while, but their expenses are going up and they need to trim programs.

    This is all nicely metaphorical of China's rise as the world's major superpower, and the decline of the US. China is pouring huge funding into science and technology, and the US is cutting programs and shutting down major facilities.

  11. Aliens been here for decades if not much longer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We ignore so much evidence that aliens were very likely involved in much of human advancement. In fact what is a god besides a entity capable of extraordinary things? Our whole solar system is probably one big experiment for aliens. Haven't humans already achieved god like status? Creating babies in test tubes, cloning,
    DNA manipulation. Given Earth is millions of years old, does anyone really think it is only the last couple thousand that life existed? Earth is a Etch a sketch being replayed over and over until we get it right.

  12. Re:Happy Freedom Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The economy is still based on slave labour, it's just Mexicans instead of Negroes now. Everyone hates the illegals 'taking their jobs' but nobody complains about cheap goods and services, funny that.

  13. Oh, good. by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Now the Chinese are wasting money on foolish projects.

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  14. the aliens have a message for China by swschrad · · Score: 1

    they have erected a giant sign... FREE WI-FI... LIKE, REALLY FREE and are just waiting for the senior leadership to swallow their tongues and keel over

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  15. Re:Happy Freedom Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free from 'muricans!

  16. Re:They're just looking for resources. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Score:-1, uh oh, looks like the chinese gov shills have arrived!

  17. Gravitational Wave Detection? by emorris · · Score: 1

    My understand of radio telescopes is that they can not detect gravitational waves. They detect radio waves, hence the name. This can be used in conjunction with LIGO, which, as far as I know, is the only telescope to ever detect gravitational waves. Some of the phenomena that this new radio telescope will look at should produce gravitational waves, but those waves are not detected by the telescope.

  18. Gravity Waves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It can detect gravity waves? Really?

  19. "Alien-hunting telescope"? Really, guys? by Idarubicin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Alien-hunting telescope"? Really, guys?

    A large-scale pure-science project. A tool that will advance modern astrophysical and astronomical research. A landmark technical achievement.

    But it came from funny-looking furriners (not just funny-talking, like them ones from Yurp). So we must be sure to cast the headline in the most derisive terms possible. It's not a research tool that shoestring SETI projects will be able to snag a bit of time on--no, it's an "alien-hunting telescope".

    I mean, my God--snippets of Aricebo's time have been used for alien-hunting (and alien-spamming) for decades. It was used to send publicity stunt messages to M13 in 1974, and to some nearer stars in 2009. SETI@home users have been crunching Aricebo data looking for little green men since 1999. And yet, oddly enough, no one ever seems to refer to Aricebo as an "alien-hunting telescope". Why is that?

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  20. Radio Telescopes are a dual use technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Terrestrial aeronomy experiments at Arecibo have included the Coqui 2 experiment, supported by NASA. The telescope also has military intelligence uses, some of which include locating Soviet radar installations by detecting their signals bouncing off the Moon.

    1. Re: Radio Telescopes are a dual use technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. During the cold war radio telescopes were used to map radar installations. see "the secret history of silicon valley"

    2. Re: Radio Telescopes are a dual use technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the secret history of silicon valley"

      I don't think that is the only Source.
      I really wonder what the Chinese will be using this for.

  21. I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would rather first contact with aliens be with a furry. I mean how hilarious would that be?

  22. Re:"Alien-hunting telescope"? Really, guys? by phorm · · Score: 1

    I don't see anything particularly wrong about the search for extraterrestrial (alien) life. I think the contrast would be that locally some of the religo-nuts would strongly object if that were the primary purpose of such a large and expensive instrument.

  23. Re:Dear China [censorship] by Tablizer · · Score: 1


    Dear Earth,

    A hearty welcome from the Zircoids. We are happy to find out that Earth has [censored] and [censored]. This shows that at least some of the people of Earth are [censored]. Please avoid [censored], it has caused terrible problems for other civilizations. We hope to contact you again at [censored].

    Thank You,
    The Zircoids.

  24. Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So did they find any aliens radio ? and why would aliens use RF frequencies and not light beam ?

  25. Re:"Alien-hunting telescope"? Really, guys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yet, oddly enough, no one ever seems to refer to Aricebo as an "alien-hunting telescope". Why is that?

    Because it is already known.

  26. Tell me why by Bristol_92 · · Score: 1

    I genuinely believe that we are not alone in the Universe. None of us can’t be sure that our race is the one and only. I support space exploration. But does people really need such constructions? I think it would be better off spending such sum of money to help our planet. I’m not a charity fan, but I like put money to good use.

  27. Got to count carefully by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    The world's most populated nation

    Since China is less than 100 thousand people more populous than India, you're going to have to start checking statements like this every time you make them.

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