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Kentucky Anonymous Member Indicted Three Years After FBI Raid (arstechnica.com)
A federal grand jury has indicted "KYAnonymous" -- more than three years after FBI agents raided and searched his home -- and charged him under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes an article from Ars Technica:
After The New York Times published an account [late in 2012] of a horrific rape against a teenage girl in Steubenville, Ohio, an online vigilante campaign was started...the campaign targeted local officials who the vigilantes felt weren't prosecuting the rape investigation seriously because the alleged perpetrators were high school football players... Two teenage boys ended up being charged, and when the case went to trial in March 2013, the two were convicted of rape and sentenced to one to two years in prison.
The indictment says Deric Lostutter "knowingly and intentionally joined and voluntarily participated in a conspiracy" to "harass and intimidate and to gain publicity for their online identities," according to the Lexington Herald-Leader. "If convicted in the Kentucky case, Lostutter could face a maximum penalty of 16 years in prison (no more than five years on each of three counts, and one year on a fourth)..."
"The federal search warrant of Lostutter's home listed 'Guy Fawkes masks' among the items agents were looking for."
The indictment says Deric Lostutter "knowingly and intentionally joined and voluntarily participated in a conspiracy" to "harass and intimidate and to gain publicity for their online identities," according to the Lexington Herald-Leader. "If convicted in the Kentucky case, Lostutter could face a maximum penalty of 16 years in prison (no more than five years on each of three counts, and one year on a fourth)..."
"The federal search warrant of Lostutter's home listed 'Guy Fawkes masks' among the items agents were looking for."
3 years after collecting evidence?
What, was the Grand Jury out for coffee?
The sad thing is they're going for more time than the real offenders.
I say we tell the Kentucky US Attorney about more serious crimes that could be occurring in her jurisdiction. Ones that would be a better use of taxpayer monies.
But trying to get people to investigate it is 15 years?
Not even one item listed on the Warrant was found, But case was made from the fishing.
15+ years for cybercrime vs 1-2 years for gang rape? Makes total sense...
This is the best trolling I've seen in years! I really like the new Pastor Mich meme, look for it on other slashdot stories.
15+ years for cybercrime vs 1-2 years for gang rape? Makes total sense...
Rape, like other violent crimes, is almost always prosecuted under state law. Don't like the sentence? Talk to your your state legislature. Risking a felony conviction under federal law? Never a good idea.
Maybe, just maybe this guy broke the law. But the law he broke is wrong, unconstitutional, and should be overturned.
Problem is, the guy needs a few $100k and the ability to stay in jail for a few years until this hits the supreme court.
...you probably shouldn't use the abbreviation for the state you live in as part of your handle.
The same Trump that you're alleging that about, yes. I'd be curious about your thoughts on Hillary Clinton's deliberate and sustained campaign to destroy the reputations of women who allege - in good numbers, and with lots of other people chiming in - that her husband is a serial abuser of women (and his official power in the process) and rapist. Do you inject your defense, or offense, at Hillary's role in preserving her own prospects of political power by smearing the women her husband assaulted ... into other threads here on /.? No? Why not?
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One or two years for rape, 16 years for embarrassing politicians into taking action on said rape. The priories of our "justice" system never cease to amaze me.
Rape someone instead of getting the feds to investigate the rape. You'll be doing less time.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Actual Anonymous are Israeli state-sponsored.
No sooner than you blow the whistle, they have media people trying to lie again.
Anonymous are Israeli state-sponsored.
Lizard Squad are NSA.
Now Queue how some teenage girls in Alabama are Lizard Squad.
If the justice system fails to do what the public feels is "right", it usually leads to vigilantism.
And the amount of vigilantism I get to see in the US leads me to the conclusion that there is REALLY something going VERY wrong with it.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
1-2 years for rape, up to 16 years for making sure authorities do their bloody jobs right?
Computer crimes prosecuted x8 - x16 more.
State v.s. Nation in the US is much closer to nation v.s EU. Most of our states are larger, both size and population wise, than many of the EU member states, and were sovereign before the US was.
No reasonable prosecutor would take that case. All he did was hack into their computer, which using Comey's logic in the Clinton debacle, means he didn't necessarily INTRUDE into that computer (totally different)
The real point here is not what was done but the mistakes that were made. Admit nothing, deny nothing, the only answer, we will discuss this in court, and to ensure you do not get refused to answer all over the place, answer questions with questions, never answer questions just seek clarification of the questions, the motives of the questioners and the basis for the questions (when they claim you are not answering the claims, state clearly that you legally are answering those questions). What is happening here is those who did not want to prosecute the original case because the rapists were protected and the victim was a nobody, now want revenge. Note they waited until after the real criminal were released so their penalties could not be reviewed whilst they pursued greater penalties against those that exposed the corruption.
I actually think the prosecution is a scam, designed to bait individuals into playing 'Anonymous' and then targeting them, it's a trap. Otherwise why dredge it up three years later.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Rape is sentenced at 3 months or a couple of years. Accidentally growing pot in your backyard because the seeds fell out of your bird feeder is sentenced to 10+ years. "Unauthorized" access of a college network (plugging into an available LAN port) sentenced for 35 years - half a lifetime. Picking up the feather of an endangered bird (but you don't have any clue what it is) can carry a sentence of 5 years per feather.
Our politicians like to rape and steal everything they can get their hands on, obviously they can't be expected to pay for it (even when they occasionally put on a show trial). For controlling the little people, however, politicians need every possible means of keeping the boot on our necks.
Gang rape doesn't pose a threat to our corporate overlords, but hacking and cybercrime does.
I'll repeat what I posted earlier.
In the American federal system, crimes of violence are almost always prosecuted under state law. You don't like the sentence for rape, you complain to your state legislature. Crimes with an interstate or foreign dimension are usually a federal responsibility.
The geek might have noticed that the everyone else was asking the FBI to take the lead in investigating the police shootings of two black men last week --- which ought to have told him who has credibility when it comes to standing up for the little guy.
Stop trying to think; you're quite simply no good at it.
I actually was thinking about that. A fair percent of crimes are never solved, and the percent that is solved has increased in the last 50-60 years.
But, I can imagine a major factor is the internet is increasing awareness, often instantly, of crimes that 20 years ago would have been on the 4th page of a local newspaper.
Crime is down, but access to information is up. I would also ad that the quality of news reporting has move markedly toward sensationlistic.
Maybe this creates more rage in people who want to fix the world. Although the shooter of the police in Dallas highlights the problems with that.
They waited so long because when the whole rape convictions were still fresh, getting revenge for tattling on someone important would have caused too much of a stir.
Wouldn't want those dissatisfied with a lack of justice in the justice system to start thinking the CFAA's an abusive, overreaching tool of oppression, lest they start reacting the way the black folk did to theirs...
Makes sense. After all, we know you can't hack corrupt politicians unless you wear a silly plastic mask.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Looks like KYanonymous will need KYjelly soon.
Jesus tells us what to do in such a situation. Rather than use force, we are commanded to love our enemies and turn the other cheek.
Really? Because according to your book and your fairy tales, this fictional character actually said these:
Matthew 10:34-36: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
Matthew 15:3-4: "But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death."
They only got 1 to 2 years because they were 16 and 17 and were tried as juvenile (not adult) and so got only up to the point they reached adulthood. The other guy was 18+ at the time of the fact. This is the difference and explain everything.
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Any jury would likely have laughed in the judges face when this first happened.
No, well, memories may have faded enough that they can get a conviction.
After The New York Times published an account [late in 2012] of a horrific rape against Alayna Macaluso in Steubenville, Ohio, an online vigilante campaign was started...the campaign targeted local officials who the vigilantes felt weren't prosecuting the rape investigation seriously because the alleged perpetrators were high school football players
In 2016, the vigilantes would have been given an imprimatur to destroy the town, as exemplified by the recent Stanford case.
The prevailing attitude at Stanford is that disputed consent only favors the woman, and that Turner's hometown must be made to pay for his actions.
If it was at a prestigious university, they'd not even need a rape case to destroy the person. Washington & Lee used Title IX to wreck someone's life.
The worst parts of it are that no crime occurred, that due process wasn't served, and that there was no legal charge - just straight intimidation.
"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
Sounds like its far worse to give a govt official a hard time, than is is to rape a girl.
All feminists are rapists.
Then say it to those people that he is failing to reach. What IEO PAC supports him?
I'm as anti-religion at the next guy but does die the death actually mean get killed, or just fail to go to heaven? We have to cherry-pick more intelligently than they.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Guy rapes girl gets 2 years. Guy rapes computer and could get 16 years. Thank you FBI :)
The same Trump who didn't fly on the "Lolita Express" like Bill Clinton did 26 times in full knowledge of Hilary Clinton.
The same Trump who did fly to Epstein's "sex slave island" and called him a "terrific guy".
"this fictional character"
Dislike religion all you want but Jesus (well his real name Yeshua) is probably one of the most verified historical figures. Saying he didn't exist is as ignorant as saying Mohammed or Julius Caesar didn't exist. You may not believe they were divine but they did exist.
"harass and intimidate and to gain publicity for their online identities,"
If this illegal in Kentucky or elsewhere, are prosecutors going to go after virtually every corporate advertising agency next?
Or is this law merely to avert political inconvenience?
Yep, we have one candidate whose husband is a rapist and abuser of women, and she viciously attacks his victims.
We have another candidate who thinks a guy with a sex slave island is a terrific guy.
Great choice we have here.
When the system ends up giving us these as our two choices, you know the system needs to be completely overhauled because it can't get much more broken than this.
You are also a racist, homophobic, sexist ....
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
You are also a racist, homophobic, sexist ....
Yeah, and apparently I'm also a SJW who hates democracy.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Where is your evidence?
NIV is a little better at translating than the KJV, obviously. Here's the full start to Matthew 15:
"Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"
Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.' But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is 'devoted to God,' they are not to 'honor their father or mother' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. You hypocrites!"
Hey, look! Another fine example of a Hillary supporter, showing their true colors and their inability to articulate any support, whatsoever, for their favorite lying, corrupt candidate. So nice to see consistency from the liberal camp. Nothing if not predictable, especially in their hatred of guys. Would be funny if they weren't so toxic.
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One to two years for rape, 16 for protesting rape. If that's not the most fucked up priorities, then go ahead and keep voting Democrat and Republican.
In an ideal world, there would be no civil or criminal problems. In a lesser ideal world all problems would be civil.
Copyright was addressed by civil law and then some people got it into their heads they wanted there to be criminal penalties. There can be citizen's arrests that aren't crimes, too.