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Comcast To Offer Pay-As-You-Go TV, Broadband Service (dslreports.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from DSLReports: Comcast plans to roll-out prepaid cable TV and internet services later this year in portions of Illinois and four other states. According to a company announcement, Comcast's Xfinity Prepaid Services lets users sign up for TV or internet services and renew service for seven or 30 days at a time -- instead of paying by the month. A one-time setup fee of $80 includes equipment and 30 days of service, with users paying $15 for an additional seven days and $45 for an additional 30 days. "We want to create an easy, pay-as-you-go option for people who want more flexibility and predictability when buying our services," said Marcien Jenckes, Executive Vice President, Consumer Services, Comcast Cable. "And our partnership with Boost Mobile will give Xfinity Prepaid customers even more places where they can conveniently sign-up and pay-as-they-go."

43 comments

  1. Uhh... by MrAwesomeSauce · · Score: 2

    Pardon my stupid, but whats the difference between paying for a month, and paying for 30 days?

    1. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30 days has September, April, June and May. The rest have 28.

    2. Re:Uhh... by sexconker · · Score: 2

      7 months have 31 days.
      How many have 28 days?

      (ALL OF THEM.)

    3. Re:Uhh... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      whats the difference between paying for a month, and paying for 30 days?

      12 * 30 = 360

      So the difference is 5.24 days per year...

      In each month, the difference will be 0-2 days above or below.

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    4. Re:Uhh... by doug141 · · Score: 1

      Ambiguity is removed... and you get more service if you sign up during the last 3 days of January.

    5. Re: Uhh... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      How do you figure? Just what do you think the ambiguity is?

  2. HOW much to start-up? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    $80 ??

    are you insane?

    I'll stick with torrents.

    go fuck yourself, comcast. I'll use you for data, but I see you are still in dreamland when it comes to voice and video.

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    1. Re:HOW much to start-up? by kheldan · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wouldn't even waste my time with their TV service if it was free. I found out the hard way the awful truth: recompression. They recompress the living fuck out of every channel to get it all into the available bandwidth. You may be technically getting 1080i, but as soon as there is any sort of motion, you see the compression artifacts like crazy. I'll stick with the antenna on my roof and downloading everything else.

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    2. Re:HOW much to start-up? by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah - they even recompress high-profile events like the Superbowl. The grass looks all swimmy and even on a good set.

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    3. Re:HOW much to start-up? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      back when digital first came out and people were experimenting with OTA vs sat vs cable - it was obvious that OTA was pretty decent and everything else sucked badly.

      what's the point in high def if its all motion smeared?

      damn.

      its why I prefer spinning media to streaming, for the most part. amazon video is actually pretty good, but most other streamers really compress things way too much.

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    4. Re:HOW much to start-up? by antdude · · Score: 1

      I still see those compression OTA too like when it shows rains, action scenes, falling confetti, etc. :(

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    5. Re:HOW much to start-up? by kheldan · · Score: 1

      Sure, because there's still compression. Compression is the only reason we have DTV in the first place. Even Standard Definition wouldn't work if it was uncompressed, the bitrate would be too high for the available OTA channel bandwidth. Same goes for DVD and even Blu-Ray video; without compression algorithms, it wouldn't work. So sure, in an OTA DTV broadcast, if there are too many quantization blocks changing from one frame to the next, it drives the compression ratio of the overall frame up to keep the total bitrate for the frame within the bandwidth availavble for the channel, the result being very noticeable compression artifacts and 'blockiness' (i.e. if it's bad enough you can, for a moment, actually see the quantization blocks, as their contents are compressed enough that the edges don't match up enough to look smooth anymore). Theoretically if you transmitted a 1080i picture of the 'snow' that you used to see on analog TV when it was tuned to a channel with no signal, you'd see all sorts of compression artifacts, because the 'data' that represents the picture of the 'snow' is literally as random as it can get -- it's the video equivalent of white noise. Conversely, when transmitting a DTV picture of a scene where literally nothing is moving at all, it's completely a static scene, the bitrate of the signal drops way off to it's lowest point, because nothing in any of the quantization blocks ever changes -- and the way the compression works, only the blocks that have pixels that changed from one frame to the next are the ones that get transmitted. So yeah, even OTA broadcasts are going to have some artifacts when there is motion, and the more motion the worse it is. But it's still better than what cable companies do (recompress it at a higher ratio, to get the average bitrate down) to jam more channels into the total available bandwidth of the cable system. I suspect that satellite does the same thing (never fell for the 'satellite TV' meme though, so no direct experience).

      Or, at least, that's how I understand how things work. You may have already known all this, and I may have got some of the details wrong. ;-)

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  3. Jesus by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    has the economy gotten this bad? Pay-As-You-Go isn't something companies do to be friendly, they do it because they don't trust their customers to pay their bills after the fact.

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    1. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      our cable bill is already billed in advance, with a due date about a week or so into the billing period the invoice is for.

      i would expect a prepaid option to not require as much personal information (such as ssn or drivers license number), and that a credit check would not be run.. but you know damn well they'll require one or both of the former and do the latter anyway... along with selling your information and viewing/browsing habits to the highest bidder.

      and they probably wont accept cash, either, which is the preferred (or often, only) payment method most people who can only afford seven days of cable or internet at a time could use.

      we don't really want or need a 'prepaid' option for wireline services to the home.... what we really wanted, comcast, is ala carte programming. do that if you truly want to win over your subscribers and offer something that the competition doesn't.

    2. Re:Jesus by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      Please. It's something they do because they want to charge people more for the same service. It has nothing to do with customers not paying bills. That's what *contracts* are for.

    3. Re:Jesus by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      and they probably wont accept cash, either, which is the preferred (or often, only) payment method most people who can only afford seven days of cable or internet at a time could use.

      Buy a Mastercard/Visa gift card from a gas station using cash then?

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    4. Re:Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comcast already bills in advance, so this is no change.

      When I left Comcast for Verizon FiOS, Comcast was charging something like $135/mo for TV and Internet at a decent speed (maybe 20mbit?). If they can offer the same for $2/day, that would cut my annual bill from 12*135=1620 to 12*30=360. Sounds like a great deal.

      Something tells me that this isn't the whole story... they would never make it this cheap. Perhaps 30/mo gets you 14.4kbps Internet and HSN+CSPAN.

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  4. It's ALWAYS been 'pay as you go'! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cable TV has always been one of those 'services' that requires you to pay in advance for your service, how is this any different?

  5. Pretty sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pay as you go means you can stop paying then start up again at a later date, for people with irregular income for who an annual contract may not be the most economically feasible thing.

    If it turns out this is just an excuse to charge 80 dollar setup fees every time somebody starts back up though... Fuck you Comcast, you assholes!

    If it doesn't, then they finally have a solution for people like my friend, who have a 60 dollar window each month between paying all their bills and adding to their debt.

    1. Re:Pretty sure... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 2

      If it doesn't, then they finally have a solution for people like my friend, who have a 60 dollar window each month between paying all their bills and adding to their debt.

      And that is why your friend is IN that situation... because they are $60 away from being in debt, and using that last $60 to buy fast Internet.

      He/she will NEVER be free of it, because of their decisions...

  6. Fcc rules on cable card's and owned HSI hardware by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    Can you take that prepaid box and use it on your post paid account? to get out of paying that $2.99-$10 /mo fee?

    What you get per prepaid and later move to post paid do now have this box for free + the main box as part of the base rate?

    What if you want want a cable card? Under the law they must give you one and refund the cost of there hardware.

    What if you want to add something like HBO? under the law they must let you add stuff like HBO to any base plan. Even if just to get a lower HBO promo price then HBO standalone.

    There site says you own the box but they may not let move that owned box to an other plan

    The cable card law says
    Pay only for equipment you have. Your operator must give you a discount on any packages that include the price of a set-top box if you choose to use your own CableCARD-enabled device. FCC Rule 76.1205(b)(5).

    Use your own set-top box without extra charge. FCC Rule 76.1205(b)(5)(C). Your cable operator may charge you to lease a CableCARD or tuning adapter, but may not charge you an additional service fee for using your own digital-cable-ready television or set-top box.

    Receive all "linear" channels (channels other than "on-demand") in your subscription package. This includes premium channels and specialty channels. For some channels delivered using a technique called "switched digital video," you may need a second device called a "tuning adapter." This device is typically provided at no additional charge to CableCARD customers. FCC Rule 76.1205(b)(4). CableCARD-ready devices currently cannot receive your cable operator's Video on Demand services.
    There line of BS makes there rant about how people own there own boxes is bad after seeing the FCC ideas that would allow customers to buy the cable boxes rather than leasing them from cable co. Seem like there are playing it both ways to rip people off. May at least the can get them to list the fee as outlet $9.50 box rent $0.50

    What about per paid internet why are forced to buy there hardware for the internet plan and can't use hardware that you own now?

  7. The prices stated are for internet or TV, not both by olsmeister · · Score: 1

    The $80 set up fee and $45 monthly charge will would have to be doubled if you would like both internet and TV from them.

  8. Re:Fcc rules on cable card's and owned HSI hardwar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't like the deal, don't fucking buy it.

  9. Too Little, Too Late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is a step in the right direction, but we have already cut the cord.

    Never going back.

    1. Re:Too Little, Too Late... by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      I've considered going back to cable or satellite, but only because of NBA basketball and MLB baseball. I miss those live games, but I can't bring myself to go back just for that. I did subscribe to Sling TV during the latter part of the last NBA season and the playoffs (and watched little else via Sling), but that's it for me - no cable since 2010, and I even cancelled Netflix last month due to never watching it. My antenna and the odd torrent are enough TV it seems.

      Full and true a la carte TV would probably sway me, for a few channels anyway, but I have no real intention of ever going back to traditional cable or satellite.

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    2. Re:Too Little, Too Late... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Odd, where do you live? Plenty of baseball and basketball OTA here in Springfield, IL, a pretty small city. If I want to watch a baseball game that's canle-only, well, that's what bars are for. Lots cheaper than cable.

      The phrase "traditional cable or satellite" amuses me, as I was six before Sputnik (long before satellite TV) and thirty before I ever had cable. Growing up in a large metropolis (St. Louis) we only had three channels, now I have twelve in a FAR smaller market.

  10. They Can't Do It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast can't even properly bill a single address getting a single service unchanging month after month. There's no way their billing system can properly handle people constantly dropping in and out. With all the billing mistakes they make, I don't know how they haven't been sued into bankruptcy yet.

  11. Good for temporary use. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be good for when relatives and house guests come, especially elderly or kids that have the cable TV addiction. I personally cut the cord, but some people live and die by the boob tube..

  12. Re:Fcc rules on cable card's and owned HSI hardwar by pete6677 · · Score: 1

    CableCards don't work, deliberately. Comcast doesn't care, because they know the FCC won't do shit to them.

  13. Re:Mall shooting in Germany by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL. Merkel better get right on that. But she has more pressing things to do, like let 100,000 more "refugees" in to further destroy the country.

  14. I have a better idea ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's fight for a toad government !

  15. This isn't pay as you go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're still paying X amount for Y amount of time-based access to a service. It doesn't charge you any more or less based on how often you actually use it, or how you use it. Good marketing, useless execution. I'm not sure how they think consumers are going to fall for this -- not that they need consumers to, there's no competitor in their regions of operation.

  16. So they are being obtuse on purpose, right? by arthurh3535 · · Score: 2

    Because people want ala-carte, not pay as you go. I swear businesses really are trying to be stupid.

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    1. Re:So they are being obtuse on purpose, right? by evilviper · · Score: 2

      People want cheaper service... They think ala carte will do that, but if it doesn't end up being cheaper, then they really DON'T want it.

      Prepaid cellular service was a big factor in getting prices down. Fees couldn't be hidden remotely as easily, and people could switch from one service to another at any time without concern about 2-year contracts.

      It's possible that prepaid TV service will start to reform the cable industry in the same ways. It certainly can't hurt, as they're under attack by Netflix and others.

      Personally, I advise just about everyone to put up a good old TV antenna. The vast majority of the country has hundreds of channels (including sub-channels) of very high-quality TV broadcasts over the air, which you can receive for as little as $30 in equipment, one-time charge.

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  17. Your friend... by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    a solution for people like my friend, who have a 60 dollar window each month between paying all their bills and adding to their debt.

    Your friend should not be buying Comcast's crap, even in a good month.

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    1. Re:Your friend... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      NOBODY should be on cable any more unless they live somewhere where there's just no signal. For everyone else, cable is obsolete.

      In the early eighties, cable was a good deal. All your local stations without snow, ghosts, or static, and a dozen good, ad-free extra channels.

      Now? TV has gone digital, which banished ghosts, snow, and static. Meanwhile, on cable they even have ads during the actual programming, and the stations like Discovery and History have gone completely to hell. Discovery used to be science, now it's "trick my truck". History used to be about history, now it's "ice road truckers" or some such nonsense.

      But 500 channels! Yeah? How many can you watch at once? Why would I have any interest in the four or five channels devoted completely to golf when I hate that game? Or the dozen channels with nothing but women's programs? Why do I need CNN and four more like it when I have Google News for free?

      Cable is obsolete.

      Charge fifty cents per month for channel I actually watch and you MIGHT get me as a customer... but I don't watch much TV, anyway.

    2. Re: Your friend... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe sports packages are one of the main reasons people pay for cable TV subscriptions. I have no clue how it competes with alternatives since I don't watch sports. Cable Internet is of course still very viable.

    3. Re:Your friend... by sh00z · · Score: 1

      This. Cable doesn't need pay-as-you-go, it needs a la carte. I'd pay $15 a month for AMC, FX and NASA select.

  18. Rephrased by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    What they mean is:
    "We want to get as much business from poor people as we can, even the ones whose service we shut off all the time for not being able to pay their bills in full and on time. And they'll bitch to us and about us less when their service runs out, just like with the "pay until you're too broke to pay for a while" cell phones they've become accustomed to. This low-end service is better (for us) than low-income customers giving up on our expensive services completely because we've priced them out."

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  19. Re:Mall shooting in Germany by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    LOL. Merkel better get right on that. But she has more pressing things to do, like let 100,000 more "refugees" in to further destroy the country.

    Mr Trump, you can't hide behind the AC tag here, we can spot your populism-shrouded, bigoted, and blatantly off-topic views a mile away.

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  20. Comcast is not a charity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast is not a charity, so assume that they are doing this to suck even more money out of their customers.