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CRISPR: Chinese Scientists To Pioneer Gene-Editing Trial On Humans (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: A team of Chinese scientists will be the first in the world to apply the revolutionary gene-editing technique known as CRISPR on human subjects. Led by Lu You, an oncologist at Sichuan University's West China hospital in Chengdu, China, the team plan to start testing cells modified with CRISPR on patients with lung cancer in August, according to the journal Nature. CRISPR is a game-changer in bioscience; a groundbreaking technique which can find, cut out and replace specific parts of DNA using a specially programmed enzyme named Cas9. Its ramifications are next to endless, from changing the color of mouse fur to designing malaria-free mosquitoes and pest-resistant crops to correcting a wide swath of genetic diseases like sickle-cell anaemia in humans. The Sichuan University trial, it is important to note, does not edit the germ-line; its effects will not be hereditary. What the researchers plan to do is enroll patients with metastatic non-small cell lung cancer, Nature reported, and for whom other treatment options -- including chemotherapy and radiotherapy -- have failed. They will then extract immune cells from the patients' blood and use CRISPR to add a new genetic sequence which will help the patient's immune system target and destroy the cancer. The cells will then be re-introduced into the patients' bloodstream. The Guardian does note that CRISPR was approved for human trials in the U.S., but if it begins on schedule in August the Sichuan University study will beat them to the punch of being the first of its kind.

93 comments

  1. Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The summary hints at the real plans, which are to experiment with human genes to vary appearance and other attributes, just like experimentation on animals. The obvious purpose is eugenics, in order to create designer humans and weed out the undesirables. This is morally and ethically wrong. And because it's a bit harder to get away with this in the United States, scientists have secret meetings like the one about making a custom human genome, and then move their work to China. This is wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Say no to eugenics.

    1. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After WWII, the Nazi scientists were captured and brought to the United States to continue their work, a mission known as Operation Paper Clip. This work included human experimentation such as eugenics, which was covered up by the highest levels of the government. Now that this work is starting to be exposed, the continuation of the Nazi experimentation is being relocated to China, where there are far less restrictions and fewer opportunities for other governments to cease this work on ethical grounds.

    2. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So you're basically saying, Clippy was Hitler?!

    3. Re:Eugenics by backslashdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uh, gene editing is totally different than eugenics which literally prevented people with traits that were considered "undesirable" from reproducing. Eugenics involves infringing on someone's right to reproduce. Gene editing however is no different than choosing an green eyed partner because you want your kids to have that trait. Is that wrong? With gene editing you can choose a brown eyed partner and get an green eyed kid. It's not evil. You can have a kid with a black woman and your kids can still look white. Anyway, it's not eugenics. A person has the right to change their own genes. How can you tell me I can't change my own DNA? If I can change my own DNA, then why can't I change the DNA of my offspring as long as the offspring is not deliberately injured or made to suffer by it. You wanna talk about risk, what about women over 40 who have kids? That risks the baby to all kinds of stuff. While I don't advocate using CRISPR this early for gene editting this early. Long term, I see nothing morally or ethically wrong with using it once the technology is proven to be lower risk than say a woman having a baby after age 38.

      You have no right to tell me that I can't change my DNA and, in addition, you can't tell me I can't fix any broken genes in my kids -- unless it is a trait deliberately to hurt them. I mean you have no right to tell me how to raise my kids either, unless it is child abuse. It should be the same way with gene editing.

    4. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abortion, of which I'm pro, is already a step towards eugenics.

      In 200 years, many diseases will have ceased to exist because of this. Other traits, such as homosexuality, as well. And socialism too.
       

    5. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you, Agent Mulder.

    6. Re:Eugenics by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is morally and ethically wrong.

      Why? Because you said so? Nazi style eugenics is morally wrong because it involved murdering people. This does not, so I don't see any moral or ethical problem. How is this any more morally wrong than, say, pregnant women taking folic acid supplements to reduce birth defects, thus "weeding out the undesirables"?

    7. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Abortion is mostly done out of convenience reasons. Things like wanting to pursue a career, or not being ready in current life's situation. Or because the partner doesn't seem to fit. The least people do abortions because of eugenic reasons. And in fact, some of the religious people who argue against abortion even still want to allow abortion of impaired children or children with very grave diseases. But that's only a tiny fraction of the abortions.

      Don't get me wrong, I support the right for women to do abortion in the first few months of the pregnancy. But the discussion is not about eugenics but about convenience. Life should be easy for women and for men, regardless of which sexual life they lead. And its good for men as well. Ability to do abortions == more women liking to have promiscutary sex.

    8. Re:Eugenics by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

      [pointing to a line of clones] This is Wong, Wong, Wong, Wong...

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    9. Re: Eugenics by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Abortion, of which I'm pro, is already a step towards eugenics. In 200 years, many diseases will have ceased to exist because of this.

      Down's Syndrome has already been reduced over 90% in Europe, and by about 70% in America. The American parents almost certainly include a number of hypocrites, since 44% of Americans think abortion should be illegal.

    10. Re: Eugenics by mentil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If parents could eliminate the possibility of their child having any homosexual feelings, would they do it? Even in a tolerant society? Would "I can't help it, it's in my genes" be accepted as a reason for being different, when your parents modified their gametes and chose to leave that one in? What if parents modified their gametes so that their children would definitely be homosexual?
      I imagine these questions have been asked before, but the answer was always "it'll never happen; we're here, we're queer, deal with it." Now people will have to start to deal with a potential 'treatment'; I seem to recall X-men had something to say about this.

      --
      Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
    11. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus, dude. Whatever you're doing, you need to quit. The fumes are affecting your brain.

    12. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that a person being homosexual relies mostly on how their brain was trained during childhood and puberty, maybe even young adulthood. It has less to do with genes. However it can't be modified that easily. Once the brain is trained to recognize men as potential mates, it can hardly be reversed, just like for heterosexuals if the brain was trained to recognize women as potential mates.

      Either way, homosexuality does no harm to anybody, and its much better for those affected if its legalized. Of course, parents will want to influence it, but I doubt its much related to the genes.

      So I doubt that scientists will discover a gene for homosexuality.

    13. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop replying to yourself, dipshit. Just because you drink the kool aid doesn't mean the rest of us are retarded.

    14. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I could I would seriously choose for my kids to be bisexual, as it would increase their chances of getting laid. In my part of the world this would not be a problem, gay or bi are not really considered as diffrent from normal, but as part of the spectrum of traits we all may or may not have.

    15. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think its unreasonable for people with genetic deficiencies to not be allowed to reproduce.

    16. Re: Eugenics by Uecker · · Score: 1

      Abortion, of which I'm pro, is already a step towards eugenics. In 200 years, many diseases will have ceased to exist because of this.

      Down's Syndrome has already been reduced over 90% in Europe, and by about 70% in America. The American parents almost certainly include a number of hypocrites, since 44% of Americans think abortion should be illegal.

      Down syndrome happens by change so it will not cease to exist in the future just by having abortions today.

    17. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know this is troll bait, but I'd like to point out that it is a slippery slope. Where do you stop with the definition of "genetic deficiency"? Down Syndrome? Mental retardation? Psychopathic tendencies? Propensity for depression? Increased risk for rare cancer? Dyslexia? Sensitive to bright lights?

    18. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Down Syndrome?
      Yes
      Mental retardation?
      Yes
      Psychopathic tendencies?
      Yes
      Propensity for depression?
      No
      Increased risk for rare cancer?
      No
      Dyslexia?
      No
      Sensitive to bright lights?
      No

      It really isnt that hard.

    19. Re: Eugenics by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Er, no. It doesn't work that way. No one is "trained" to be hetero/homosexual. Who/what is doing the "training"? Dumb.

    20. Re: Eugenics by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      There are very few Americans who think abortion should be legal in all circumstances, and very few who think it should be illegal in all circumstances. The majority adopt compromise positions, usually either of 'It should be legal up until x point' coupled with 'it should always be illegal if these circumstances apply.' It is just a consequence of the polarized nature of American politics that the extremes on both ends dominate the debate.

      Even the moderates have to defend abortion-on-demand, because they know that without the Roe v Wade decision many states would instantly run to the opposite extreme, which would result in women dying needlessly.

    21. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go ask Dr BF Skinner

    22. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no gene for a feeling. It can easily be edited. Google Doyletics

    23. Re: Eugenics by Frankzy · · Score: 1

      "was"?? You just know that bastard is lurking just under the bottom of your desktop, watching, waiting...

    24. Re:Eugenics by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      *ahem* You do know this is military, right?

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    25. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I reply as Anonymous coward but I hope this will not be moded into oblivion,

      The reason it's morally wrong is because it goes against human dignity. Your genes is a part of yourself, and nobody should have more control than you (not even your parent) on who you are and what your trait is. When I born, I didn't have any choice over my skin/eyes color and someone else shouldn't choose for me either because the "know" what's good for me or what the society will like. It's one thing to prevent birth defect and serious health problem, but to choose some arbitrary trait is another completely.

    26. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sickle cell?

    27. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      black kinky hair, epicanthic folds, hook nose, money grasping fingers, palms that want silver crossed over them, desire for a collective, redistributive form of government. i dont see a slippery slope.

    28. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "goes against human dignity"

      That's the sort of facile argument used to support killing black men for questioning the moral purity of white women by looking at them.

      "When I born, I didn't have any choice over my skin/eyes color and someone else shouldn't choose for me either"

      So now genes are God's tool for enacting karma? Isn't that the same thing used to justify a king's god-given right to rule, or some poor cripple's destiny to suffer?

      Of course you are using old, worn out, arguments because they match the Luddite ideas that you propose

    29. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Embryo selection, is morally equivalent to abortion, will be widespread if abortion is legal, and will be done for eugenics reason. Scientists in China are already looking for genes that lead to better IQ as we speak. I see gene editing a much better alternative, but sadly it won't be effective for traits that are caused by hundreds of genes, like height or intelligence.

    30. Re: Eugenics by backslashdot · · Score: 2

      Well that is now but wait till political and financial considerations come into effect. I mean if you have to deal with a budget the way your decisions are made will change. For example a person who is lazy or has a slightly increased risk of getting a depression or disease that is expensive to treat will be undesirable in your eyes. Not to mention entire feared ethnic groups.

      Eugenics is not only morally bad, it is evolutionarily shortsighted too. Eugenics says for example, that a person born with a condition that prevents them from walking should not reproduce. But then what if that person also has a separate gene that makes them super smart? With eugenics, the intelligence gene is lost. With gene editing the person can fix the walking defect and have offspring such that the intelligence genes propagate.

      With gene editing people with obviously bad traits can still reproduce. We won't get any closer to solving the slippery slope issue but as everyone chooses the intelligence genes someone in the future can solve it.

    31. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slashdot trolling. You forgot that one.

    32. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are assuming there is no gene influencing that chance.

    33. Re:Eugenics by pablo_max · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's unreasonable for people who post AC to be automatically punched in the face.

    34. Re:Eugenics by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      This is morally and ethically wrong.
      That is bollocks.

      The obvious purpose is eugenics
      That is bollocks, too.

      As long as I can decide what genes I want to have in me, no one is "eugenicing me" and you are not the one who has the oral right or ethic superiority to decide about me!

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    35. Re: Eugenics by pablo_max · · Score: 1

      As someone who lost two children to random genetic mutations during the 3rd trimester, I can say that I would have given anything be have been able to edit out those errors. Alas, thanks to piece of shit bible thumpers like OP, this was not to be.
      There is no reason whatsoever to force babies to be born with disabilities simply because some asshat thinks god doesnt like it.

      BTW, side note.. If your god allows such suffering, then gives you the knowledge and power to end it, but somehow makes it forbidden for you to actually end it, I would say you may want to think about what kind of God you are worshiping. Cuz, that would be a seriously dick move.

    36. Re:Eugenics by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      If I can change my own DNA, then why can't I change the DNA of my offspring as long as the offspring is not deliberately injured or made to suffer by it.
      Actually your offspring can rechange, or change, or add anything s/he wants later, too.

      --
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    37. Re: Eugenics by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      As homosexuallity is not a genetic trait ...

      Sorry? What are you actually asking?

      Parents tinkering with stuff that is unrelated to anything?

      On the other hand if it was a genetic trait, I - as a superiour ruler - would treat everyone to be bisexual and would demand every second sunday a official holiday with a mandatory orgy to attend for everyone above 30.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    38. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you the decider on what is morally and ethnically right?

      I'd prefer to live in a society where nobody has to suffer from mental retardation or physical handicaps. Put everyone on equal footing to succeed and prosper.

    39. Re:Eugenics by lamer01 · · Score: 1

      You picked something innocuous such as eye color. What about Height? Strength? Athletic ability? Intelligence? Beauty? (however subjective it is). Gattaca covered this really well.

    40. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May I have a copy of your newsletter please? You make Slaanesh smile!

    41. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      palms that want silver crossed over them

      Is that for werewolves or vampires?

    42. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I born, I didn't have any choice over my skin/eyes color and someone else shouldn't choose for me either because the "know" what's good for me or what the society will like.

      Your parents very solidly chose how your skin/eye color would turn out and it involved all sorts of social considerations. You didn't realize this is how children are made?

    43. Re: Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... scientists found that genetic changes which happen after birth can ...

      Unless the article is talking about gene therapy, the writer very solidly misunderstood what the scientists actually learned.

      Even if this was happening now, it wouldn't be the result of "training". Every life trauma one experiences results in alterations of their basic psychology, but nobody would be crass enough to consider this to be the training of people.

    44. Re:Eugenics by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      What right of reproduction is it that you speak. I have never heard of this right, it sounds very suspiciously like some acient greek right of ownership of children, the right to do to them as you wish, to bake them and enjoy them with a dish of fava beans. The new child coming into to the world has rights and you have no rights to bring them into the world or to use them as you wish.

      Hey, you want those who are least able to contribute to society to reproduce through intoxication and laziness and in far greater numbers than those who contribute the most to society, go right a fucking head. I, myself have chosen to liberate myself from that pending abuse by not reproducing, by not burdening myself with the guilt of future generations being subject to the abuse of the idiocracy. In fact I find the growth of idiocracy to be quite humorous, what the fuck do I care, I feeding victims to it (I still do my part it trying to stop it happening, it is the fair and reasonable thing to do but I burdened by the suffering the idiocracy will cause). I am sure it will be quite humorous when the idiots hit twenty billion and still counting.

      Parenting and breeding licences are the common sense choice and no amount of wishing it away will make it less sensible, the earth is not infinite and as such breeding limitations are an inherent requirement.

      --
      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    45. Re:Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replace the word "editing" with "designing" and you open up a whole range of possibilities. If the scientist can edit or modify DNA to prevent or correct pre-existing defects they can probably take DNA from a healthy specimen and improve upon it. The modifying human DNA can result in another species of human. Humans share almost 99% of DNA with chimpanzees. I would be very much surprised if there are not privately funded labs around the world performing cutting edge genetic engineering in secret. Research totally unhindered by any laws, regulations, and moral imperatives. Wealthy people looking to cheat death and willing to spend large sums of money since they can't take any with them when they die. Setting up a laboratory for biological and genetic research is a lot easier than setting up a laboratory to create nuclear weapons.

    46. Re: Eugenics by yndrd1984 · · Score: 1

      a person born with a condition that prevents them from walking should not reproduce. But then what if that person also has a separate gene that makes them super smart?

      The same thing that would happen if they chose not to have kids, or their kids didn't happen to get the gene, or if a different sperm fertilized the egg, or if the parent's birth control hadn't failed, or ...

  2. Totalitarian State pioners dangerous research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What could go wrong...

    1. Re:Totalitarian State pioners dangerous research by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      What happens if a country breeds a superior "economic race" and starts kicking our ass economically? I don't think we'd want to stay as is, or else they'd kick our ass in war.

      There's some evidence that the human brain is optimized for efficiency over computational power because famine repeatedly puts a lot of evolutionary pressure on efficiency and conservation. With some genetic engineering, brains may be more wasteful calorie-wise, but much smarter.

  3. Don't worry! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny

    GMO humans will still be safe to eat.

    --
    Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
    1. Re:Don't worry! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      GMO humans will still be safe to eat.

      Now they can come in Soylent Blue and Soylent Red also.

    2. Re:Don't worry! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      The problem is . . . Monsanto will claim Intellectual Property rights to GMO humans. So they will be forced to pay tribute Monsanto for the rest of their lives.

      And, Monsanto being Monsanto . . . GMO humans will have to pay, even after their death.

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    3. Re:Don't worry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mmmmm CRISPR Critters(tm)

    4. Re:Don't worry! by gtall · · Score: 1

      Only if they are properly labeled.

    5. Re:Don't worry! by n4wff · · Score: 1

      And now come in 2 flavors - Original and extra CRISPR

  4. First in China, maybe not the world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that Juno therapeutics and other companies like Editas (a play on the founder's Harvard connection) have been using CRISPR-cas9 for some time now in their genetically engineered stem cell trials.

    What's interesting is that these trials have been very successful, I recall a 94% of subjects having complete remission even though they were mostly (all?) stage 4 cancer patients. Even more telling is that the FDA let Juno continue its trials despite the deaths of 3 patients, they claimed it was due to the chemotherapy and not the gene editing. Evidently the FDA agreed.

    With CRISPR-Cas9 (and Cas11?) providing reliable, repeatable and "easy" genetic editing that's cheap (reagents cost on the order of $40) I think there will be an explosion of genetic activity. Add to that the advent of cheap ($1K) DNA sequencers and I think this will be something that will become much more common.

    Even here in Vietnam, you can easily learn the techniques necessary to do genetic engineering at home. Getting the necessary supplies is a bit harder but I'm working on that :)

  5. Sorry, couldn't resist by Tablizer · · Score: 0

    They want bigger Wangs.

    1. Re:Sorry, couldn't resist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no. First on the docket is round eyes. *ducks*

    2. Re:Sorry, couldn't resist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and bigger Johnsons. so this will help to maintain the populations of blacks and asians.

  6. repect humans or not? by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    question ultimately is whether we, as individuals, societies or groups, respect humans as they are in themselves, with what we perceive as imperfections, incurable deceases, 'deformities', age or stage of development(from embryos to old age 'sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything", gender, level of education, etc etc
    or do we disrespect them as they are, and instead try to decide for them and try(sometimes by giving power to authorities through legislation) to change and aim for an ideal of perfect condition(or failing that effort, get rid of them through killing, euthanasia, abortion etc etc), based on our judgments on their perceived imperfections.

    1. Re:repect humans or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Potential humans have no rights.

      Worrying about embryos is one thing, assigning the right to exist to people who might be born in the far future if we make a different decision ... that's insanity.

    2. Re:repect humans or not? by Empiric · · Score: 1

      Yes... theoretical future people are fully as much "potential humans" as bipedal hominids lacking a basis for such a categorical distinction.

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      ~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
    3. Re:repect humans or not? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      You may continue to idolise the natural state of humans if you want.

      But when your descents are dying slowly from cancer, they might want to ask you why you didn't get the cancer-resistance fix installed.

    4. Re:repect humans or not? by sittingnut · · Score: 1

      your counter argument depends on speculative questions from speculative future about a speculative 'fix'?
      lol
      no need to say anything else.

    5. Re: repect humans or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we shouldn't 'design' embryos and take away their right to be their way

  7. Not hereditary, but can be by dargaud · · Score: 1

    The Sichuan University trial, it is important to note, does not edit the germ-line; its effects will not be hereditary.

    This test run may not be, but this technique can not only be applied to germ-line cells, but also made 'super-hereditary'. When you change germ-line cells, they are transmitted only in half the cases, no matter if dominant or recessive. But they found a technique to have the modifications transmitted every time ! I don't remember the name of that technique though.

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  8. Y Chromosome Turned To X by mentil · · Score: 1

    I wonder what the limitations of a genetic sex-change would be. Also, wouldn't women get the shaft (so to speak) given they (usually) lack a Y chromosome?
    *cue Clone of My Own quotation*

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    Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
    1. Re:Y Chromosome Turned To X by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Very little.

      There's one gene on Y that determines sex, SRY, and it's active during development. Changing it in an adult would have no effect at all. Changing it germline would give you anatomically perfectly normal male or female offspring, just with reduced fertility.

  9. Wait til they cure aging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When then "cure" aging or even reverse it, that's when things will get very interesting. And I'm referring to humanity, not China specifically.

    Sounds great, but the world will become really overpopulated.

    1. Re:Wait til they cure aging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did you put quotes around "cure"?

  10. Anybody done a backup? by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    of our genome before the arrogant ones start modifying it.

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    1. Re: Anybody done a backup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I left an off-site backup in your mommy's ass.

    2. Re: Anybody done a backup? by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      I left an off-site backup in your mommy's ass.

      Then you must be a necrophiliac, and you'll have needed access to earth moving equipment as well. Still, it's probably the closest thing to sex you've had since the last time your daddy left a backup in your ass.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    3. Re: Anybody done a backup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He never said that he did so last night...

      Just sayin'

    4. Re: Anybody done a backup? by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Weakest comeback ever...

      Just sayin'

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      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  11. A Continuation of Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry - I know it has/will happen(ed) .
    Students who are intelligent will always go past the lines drawn in the dust of the past.
    As senior scientists, these journeys will be continued, at least in the imagination.
    Genetics, physics, weapons, robotics, computer science ( AI...).... the subject does not matter.
    Same thng applies to the topics of law, sociology, psychology, sexuality, religion, education, whatever.
    The lines are arbitrary, and subject to no hard limits ( like the speed of light, second law of thermodynamics...).
    They will be crossed.

    So buckle up, make sure the belts are tight, and enjoy the ride, until the sudden stop.

  12. Furries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Furries are going to win after all. Thought we're not advanced enough as an society to handle that yet. Some people still haven't even gotten over skin color or eye shape.

  13. Why do they call it CRISPR? by mapkinase · · Score: 3, Informative

    CRISPR is just a passive nucleotide constract. It's the CAS system that does the work.

    CRISPR/CAS.

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    1. Re:Why do they call it CRISPR? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Because the media needs a snappy name.

    2. Re:Why do they call it CRISPR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's a "constract"?

    3. Re:Why do they call it CRISPR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's not GNU/Linux

  14. Goals by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Consequences or true motivations aside, if they can get a viable genetic treatment to work, it would be stupid not to cheer them on.

    Cancer is one of our biggest killers and, to date, our methods of dealing with it are nearly as harmful as the cancer itself.

    A year or two of treatments can easily bankrupt a person with zero guarantees the treatments will even be successful.

    Technology and advances in science can be downright scary depending on intended use but we would not be what we are today without the willingness to take that risk.

  15. Re: Eugenics or Olympic champions or super soldier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will there be banned from the Olympics? Will we face them on the battlefield?

  16. Telemere chains by douglassmithprime · · Score: 1

    So when can I get my telemere chains fixed with this and buy myself a few more decades?

    1. Re: Telemere chains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is possible to reactivate the telemorase gene sequence now, some of your cells don't even have it turned off, but it is probably not a good idea to do it generically in a human. Unless you want to be a living cancer that is. I know that is the comic book idea behind deadpool, but allowing telomeres to be added back indefinately is a bad idea. Better to spend your time learning to upload yourself into the matrix/ skynet/ singularity/ whatever. At least when it has a checksum failure the back can be restored.

    2. Re: Telemere chains by douglassmithprime · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about adding it indefinately? There will be a sweet spot. As for creating a copy of me, that won't be me it'll be someone else. MY process will have ended.

  17. You are the problem by pablo_max · · Score: 1

    Let me guess. All those people with cancer deserve to die because that is natures way? All those kids born with genetic diseases should be left to suffer because you think it is immoral to edit out those errors?

    Why don't you get off your fucking high horse. People like you really grind my gears. The holier than tho crowd. You think you have the right to decide what is moral and what is not. I say, fuck you. You and your bible beating brethren are the reason medical progress has more or less come to a halt in the US.

  18. I would like a pair of Skinny Genes please. by lamer01 · · Score: 1

    Thanks

  19. Yes, it can, through epigenetics by lamer01 · · Score: 1

    We now know that if we turn on/off genes epigenetically, those switches (on/off) can be passed to offspring.