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Russia's Rise To Cyberwar Superpower (dailydot.com)

"The Russians are top notch," says Chris Finan, an ex-director at DARPA for cyberwar research, now a CEO at security firm Manifold Technology, and a former director of cybersecurity legislation in the Obama administration. "They are some of the best in the world... " Slashdot reader blottsie quotes an article which argues the DNC hack "may simply be the icing on the cyberwar cake": In a flurry of action over the last decade, Russia has established itself as one of the world's great and most active cyber powers. The focus this week is on the leak of nearly 20,000 emails from the Democratic National Committee... The evidence -- plainly not definitive but clearly substantial -- has found support among a wide range of security professionals. The Russian link is further supported by U.S. intelligence officials, who reportedly have "high confidence" that Russia is behind the attack...

Beyond the forensic evidence that points to Russia, however, is the specter of President Vladimir Putin. Feeling encircled by the West and its expanding NATO alliance, the Kremlin's expected modus operandi is to strike across borders with cyberwar and other means to send strong messages to other nations that are a real or perceived threat.

The article notes the massive denial of service attack against Estonia in 2007 and the "historic and precedent-setting" cyberattacks during the Russian-Georgian War. "Hackers took out Georgian news and government websites exactly in locales where the Russian military attacked, cutting out a key communication mode between the Georgian state and citizens directly in the path of the fight."

79 comments

  1. Absolute Nonsense by segedunum · · Score: 1

    But, it fits a narrative I suppose. Lots of security companies who have a narrative they want to sell and lots of Twitter accounts who try to appear credible retweeting it wildly for the same. But of course, we all know an IP address can be mapped to a particular identity.

    1. Re:Absolute Nonsense by PublicSchill · · Score: 1

      Title needs a translation. Somebody hacked into our computers that didn't follow basic security guidelines.... oh wait, hard to blame anyone but yourself then.

    2. Re: Absolute Nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tru dat, also stop using windoze. Problem solved.

    3. Re:Absolute Nonsense by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The world now knows of efforts like QUANTUMSQUIRREL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... that would give any friendly or other nation, its staff, ex staff and former staff the "skills" to become any ip range for any reason.
      Just use the right tools, time of day and the perfect ip will always be stumbled upon by consultants to run to the press with.

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  2. Meanwhile.... by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 1

    In the US, we talk about getting rid of our defensive agencies- the NSA is about half in charge of cyberdefense- and don't even consider attack. My proposal is we offer a $1 billion bounty to anybody that can blow the Great Firewall open. That'll show them.

    1. Re:Meanwhile.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you're going to be a government troll. Try not choosing such a bornig government troll name. Make up something exciting and people may be fooled into thinking you're an actual person with real feelings etc.

      Don't choose Pinocchio, you may think it's more subtle but it really wont be.

  3. Re:Mr. President, we must not allow a cyber gap! by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    Meanwhile, in the real world, the USA is the first country which has developed and deployed a first-strike cyber-weapon.

    That is known of by the masses. And it failed in the fact that the creators relied on the date setting of the computer to delete itself. Had they done a better job, no one would have ever heard of Stuxnet. Who knows what else preceeded it.

  4. Speaking of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot mobile ads sent me to a phishing page that tried to pass off as Verizon.

    Way to go Slashdot!

  5. OK OK just take my freedoms already by penguinoid · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Oh noes, the scary Russians want to hack our computers and steal our data. For our own protection, we must give up all our freedoms and give our data to the NSA. The children who must be thought of, the terrorists, the druggies, and the pedophiles welcome scary Russian hackers into the fold.

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    1. Re:OK OK just take my freedoms already by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Who is even *saying* that? Where is it in the summary? Gah, who modded you up? Seriously? Stop making shit up that nobody believes, including yourself.

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    2. Re:OK OK just take my freedoms already by bongey · · Score: 1

      You missed the sarcasm. Replace Russian with Muslim and the story would never be happening.

    3. Re:OK OK just take my freedoms already by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      No one was using the Russian hacker menace for anything when I posted that, but based on history I expected that any potential threat with that much media attention would be used for political gain. Check out our totally justified counterattack: russian-government-gets-hacked-back-attacks-possibly-launched-by-the-nsa

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    4. Re: OK OK just take my freedoms already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have to be a paranoid kook to see that's exactly where this conversation is going.... but it helps.

  6. Not China, because China gave at the offiice by mveloso · · Score: 0

    The Democrats can't blame their own crappy practices for their problems, so they blame Russia. They can't blame China because China has given Clinton too much money.

    1. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by fustakrakich · · Score: 3

      You don't "blame" the Russians for being "top notch". They aren't. They just have a lot of people working at it, and we are just sloppy in the security department, or pretending to be so to create kind of an attractive honeypot. This isn't just another "Red Scare". We are dealing with real sociopaths, and we kinda have to be one to know one. This is today's problem, and solution. And I have to admit, the democrats are better at the game. At least they know the art of subtlety when facing the public. The republicans are laying all their cards on the table face up. But they are both horrible in containment of the war to the war zone.

      Is it still safe to use Kaspersky products?

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    2. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We" are not sloppy, one party seeking unlimited power is.

    3. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Which one?

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    4. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Which one?

      The Democrats. The Republicans are safe because they haven't figured out how to use computers yet.

    5. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      And yet, they're only four or five points behind. Who needs a computer when you can connect directly to the brain stem using just a microphone?

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    6. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But which real sociopath do we vote for, Hillary or Trump?

      Don't leave us hanging !!

    7. Re:Not China, because China gave at the offiice by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Vote for the grownup in the room. Petulance can be a big problem in this line of work.

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  7. Approved Story by the Clinton Campaign. by bongey · · Score: 1, Troll

    I came here for news for nerds, not to read the latest press release from the Clinton campaign. This is pretty much the 5th story ,correction 8th or 9th that is directly in line with press releases from the Clinton campaign https://slashdot.org/index2.pl... .

    ABC,CBS,CNN,NBC,NYTIMES and Politico were all colluding with DNC but you're going to cite Politico on basically the same story.

    Fuck sakes the Slashdot editors posted a orange story about Michael Moore going off on Trump but not a red hot story about twitter killing the hashtag #dncleaks?

    1. Re: Approved Story by the Clinton Campaign. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Donald Trump is Jesus. That's the truth, not some commie CNN propaganda!

    2. Re:Approved Story by the Clinton Campaign. by tetraverse · · Score: 1

      "I came here for news for nerds, not to read the latest press release from the Clinton campaign"

      I approve this message ..

  8. DNC was not hacked by Russian officials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For A) Clintons' computers are a joke for running on Windows 95 with NO antivirus and NO firewall, protected only by a good-hope faith (they're too cheap to buy a real one), and for B) Russians have always been very well educated in mathematics, a matter most hated by all of north-american students (when not flipping hamburgers for a penny per hour, they prefer softie humanistic gender studies where strict logic is unnecessary and only positive emotions are needed in order to graduate). For C) I choose "cyrillic" hacking keyboard, which can be found being used anywhere from Ukraine, over Bulgaria up to Serbia.
      List of countries using "russian" hacking keyboards:
      Belarus
      Bosnia and Herzegovina
      Bulgaria
      Kazakhstan
      Kyrgyzstan
      Macedonia
      Mongolia
      Montenegro
      Russia
      Serbia
      Tajikistan
      Ukraine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_script

    1. Re:DNC was not hacked by Russian officials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And D) is for Drugs. Stop abusing them.

    2. Re:DNC was not hacked by Russian officials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here, ladies and gentlemen, is the stereotypical american response to a fact which they cannot logically dimish: blame drugs.

    3. Re:DNC was not hacked by Russian officials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So drug abuse is OK according to your non-typical mindset?

  9. Didn't this already happen? by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    We thought russia hacked air force one and then it turned out later it was just some guy named George Lasco?

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  10. You cant let then install a government in America. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The way Iran installed Regan.

  11. Solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Block all access from russia to the rest of the internet.

  12. DNC Preparing for Hacked Clintons Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All just a smoke screen to stem the outrage when it is revealed Hillary Clinton's email server was, indeed, hacked by Russians as well. Hell, her server was an open smorgasbord of secrets for the worlds state funded cyber-units.

    When that happens it will be "See, see, see Trump and the Russians are against po' whittle Hillary. Those awful terrible White Men!" (But let's not mention the 143 MILLION dollars Putin gave the Clinton's in exchange for uranium. Look it up.) ~

    1. Re:DNC Preparing for Hacked Clintons Server by skids · · Score: 0

      When Trump was letting the religious nutjobs rape the Republican platform committee, the only place his campaign put their foot down was on one item that opposed Russian interests in the Ukraine. So, there's ample reason for suspicion.

    2. Re:DNC Preparing for Hacked Clintons Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, you're opposing one country's interests in another? What are you, some protectionist, xenophobic, anti-free-trade, commie nutjob?

  13. Re: Mr. President, we must not allow a cyber gap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut up, dipshit. Nobody is interested in this. Vote Clinton in 2016 or we will know.

  14. False accusations and playing the victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the U.S. is good at that. Don't listen to a word of it.

  15. DNC are the media domination superpower by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yet another story that mentions the DNC hack and carefully avoids mentioning the extremely damaging contents of the emails. The Democrats are really, really good at this game. You push news you don't want out of the news cycle by flooding it with other, irrelevant news. They are putting on a master class in how to get everyone to stop paying attention to the man behind the curtain. Their power extends even here to Slashdot, where there has been a constant barrage of stories mentioning Russia and Trump but little about what was actually in the emails.

    This was no ordinary hack, the freaking chairwoman of the DNC has already resigned over it and more resignations will be coming in the days to come. The Democratic Party is not what everyone thought it was.

    They ridiculed an African-American woman named LaQueenia Gibson. Yes, the Democrats did this. They wanted to use use Bernie Sanders' religious beliefs against him in the Democratic primary. They blocked off roads to an event the opposition was hosting. Does any of this sound like Third World banana republic bullshit to you? That's because it is. And it really happened, here, in America.

    And let's not forget their greatest crime: subverting the democratic process and the people's will in favor of a crooked, rotten career politician. Disgusting. It's like watching a friend you've known for years suddenly start kicking the crap out of a stray dog. The mutt is howling and crying but he just doesn't stop. No wonder they want to change the subject to Russia. Articles like this help and are part of the whole rotten problem.

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    1. Re:DNC are the media domination superpower by Nostalgia4Infinity · · Score: 1

      "You push news you don't want out of the news cycle by flooding it with other, irrelevant news." And it helps when much of the press is simply an extension of your organization.

    2. Re: DNC are the media domination superpower by puterg33k · · Score: 0

      Why hasn't this been voted up, I just don't get it, He's is absolutely correct.

    3. Re:DNC are the media domination superpower by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      The only think really damaging in the DNC hack was the doxing of the small dollar donors. Everything else was already known. DWS was already being pushed out; this was just an excuse.

      The real issue is Wikileaks promoting itself instead of facilitating leaks, undermining the trust that we have placed in that org. This data had already been out for over a month. That is why there was time for find the Russian groups behind the "Guccifer 2.0" front. Wikileaks had sat on it to try make a big splash at the convention, but either never bothered to look at what it had or didn't realize that doxing was not a scoop.

  16. All is well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Calm down and pay attention before you open your mouth and spread nonsense you will regret, OK? There are things you should be aware of.

    First of all, Hillary will win the elections. No "ifs", no "buts". She will win. Remove any doubt. She will be the President for the next 8 years. The sooner you accept this, the better.

    Second, the internet is about to become very, very different from what you know. Computers are about to become very, very different too. The "safe computing act" (it will probably have a longer, catchier and acronymizable name) will take from you many pesky "choices" you don't really need and that pose security risks to the rest of us. General purpose computers will be illegal within 2 to 4 years. Don't worry, they won't come door to door to confiscate them or give any amnesty period, they will simply stop selling them or spare parts. Tablets and smartphones have been wiping the floors with PCs anyway so nobody will notice. In time, connecting to the internet without a "certified" device will become impossible.

    Third, we'll go to war with Russia. We WILL go to war with Russia. There is no doubt. It will take years but in the end we will prevail and Europe will be a US protectorate. Think about what it will mean for our economy: 600 (more with the new countries that will have no choice but to join the EU) million customers, all at the disposal of the US economy. Forget Trump and his empty promises, Hillary will indeed make America great again, by giving the whole world no choice but to buy American.

    So, that's it. Vote right. Be a part of it. There is no being out. Being against would be... Unwise.

    1. Re:All is well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more with the new countries that will have no choice but to join the EU

      Uh, you mean like the United Kingdom?

      So, that's it. Vote right. Be a part of it. There is no being out. Being against would be... Unwise.

      Did you win a contest prize for that bit of high-school fiction? Tablet sales are dropping faster than your grades and smartphones have stalled. Scarry to impinge on the fiction with reality, but some adult has to do it.

      Now if Hillary is elected, will she try to take away Americans rights "for the sake of the children in the village"? Yes, without question. And there you have it. ~

      Captcha: validate.

  17. Upgraded products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like Red Scare 2.0 has been rolled out along with a brand new version of McCarthyism.

    1. Re:Upgraded products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems like Red Scare 2.0 has been rolled out along with a brand new version of McCarthyism.

      And the cold-stone truth is it's being led by the Democrats with the full cooperation of the "liberal" media.

      The leaked emails confirm just how racist and bigoted the Dems leadership really is. That same leadership count on the American public being idiots and actually believing in what they say. The constant bellowing from Dems is really just (psychological) projection of what they themselves truly believe deep-down. The Dems claiming to be otherwise will be judged by history as one of the greatest con-games ever played on a populace.

      Never forget the architect of Obamacare literally said (it's on tape) that he counted on the stupidity of Americans to get Obamacare passed. ~

  18. What about the secret WaPo fundraiser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot all the stories in there about how they own the media here. The Washington Post let them send donors to their party, though it was kept off the DNC's donor price list, and the lawyers said no to it. They called the CEO to make them apologize when someone on Morning Joe said something they didn't like.

    The media is completely owned by them. There is no 4th estate any more. They're happy to cover up crimes against the American people as long as it suits their interests.

  19. Re: Mr. President, we must not allow a cyber gap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut up, dipshit. Nobody is interested in this. Vote Clinton in 2016 or we will know.

    Just like they knew about Vince Foster, with the same result. Yep. ~

  20. And this is why we should cripple encryption by Nyder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    God, I love politics. On one hand we got the FBI and cronies wanting encryption weaken to make their job easier, and on the other hand, we got a big cyber threat from Russia/China.

    Which one is it you fuckers?

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    1. Re:And this is why we should cripple encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cia-chief-people-jumping-to-conclusions-over-russia-hacks/article/2598198

      "As a country, as a government, as a people, we need to be mindful of the havoc that can be wrought, not just in terms of taking down an electric grid, but in terms of the potential to manipulate the foundation of our democracy, which is an election," Brennan added.

      He also argued that the U.S. intelligence community has good intentions, and said the hacks pointed to the need for law enforcement to have broad surveillance authorities. "If we're a country of law and the rule of law prevails, what should the government be able to do and be able to access in order to protect the welfare of its citizenry?" he asked.

      Does that answer your question?

    2. Re:And this is why we should cripple encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite well: Oh shit, we've been hacked. Lets just see that it stays under the radar, check what our people are saying and arrest if needed.

  21. Putin knows exactly what he is doing by quax · · Score: 2

    And what most people in the West don't realize is that the vast majority of Russians side with him on this.

    Russia has been invaded over and over again. It informs the national mindset, and fundamentally ingrains the urge to have a strong Russian military, and to retain bordering nations as neutral buffer states.

  22. Reagan would be proud of his old party by Uberbah · · Score: 2

    Dems are shown to be a bunch of corrupt elitist assholes - and they deflect from that by blaming Russia with the same gravely serious tones they used to tell you about Saddam's WMD's.

  23. Mountain pointing fingers at molehill by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    The people to fear here are the Western Exceptionalist Five Eyes. They're the ones trying to tap every communication from every person on the planet, not the Russians.

  24. Good reason to spend a trillion of public money by Max_W · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "The Russians are top notch," says Chris ...

    Russia can not even produce a computer or a smartphone. These fairy tales are being generated by lobbying firms to justify spending of billions on cyber-war crap-ware. American people are so gullible.

    1. Re:Good reason to spend a trillion of public money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia can not even produce a computer or a smartphone. These fairy tales are being generated by lobbying firms to justify spending of billions on cyber-war crap-ware. American people are so gullible.

      You do realize that you don't need the same infrastructure or skillsets to support computer manufacturing as you do teams of crackers, right?

    2. Re:Good reason to spend a trillion of public money by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      AC if any nation is that good, nothing useful would be recovered by consultants able to freely talk to the press. Smart enough to get in, stay in, but details of entry left all over to find?
      So what is the story going to be? A super power with super skills that have never been caught in the past decades got detected by consultants talking to the media this one time?
      Or an ip range and tool set was left all over the network to be recovered later.... that conveniently points straight to another nation via method and ip range in the open and the domestic press got told about.
      That nation with the super skills to get in, to get the data over time, stay totally undetected in real time, but lacked the most basic skills to cover its own path in and out?
      If such an advance adversary is really detected no mention is made in the press of the investigative methods. Most advance nations like to keep that for their own security services investigations secure.
      i.e. if its real no ability to just go running with the worlds media about tool sets and methods discovered ....

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    3. Re:Good reason to spend a trillion of public money by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      If creating hardware were required to demonstrate skill, the self-image of 99% of Slashdot's users would be irreparably harmed. ;-)

  25. They all do it by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Every state is attacking every other state. Some are attacking themselves.

    It's the ultimate assymetrical warfare. And hugely successful.

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  26. Re: Good reason to spend a trillion of public mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >lobbying firms to justify spending of
    >billions on cyber-war crap-ware

    Most of cyberwar crapware is made by Russian companies

  27. The Donald's Sweet Quaff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump's hair is the 8th wonder of the world!!!

  28. Insert anti-Russian cyber BS .. by tetraverse · · Score: 1

    'Slashdot reader blottsie quotes an article which argues the DNC hack "may simply be the icing on the cyberwar cake"'

    There is no evidence that the DNC hack was carried out by the 'Russians'.

  29. WHATEVER FBI EDITORDAVID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have been warned to stop pumping bullshit.

    1. Re:WHATEVER FBI EDITORDAVID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a song for EditorFBIDavid's faggot ass.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYT2WVnwiLI

  30. Re: Good reason to spend a trillion of public mone by fubarrr · · Score: 1

    The most of security crapware is made by Russians...

  31. Countries with big militaries and war prowess.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...yet the peasants living standards are low or complete shit. And God help you if you are poor or homeless.

    Russia's been there a long time and the United States seems to be on a race to get there.

  32. Re: Good reason to spend a trillion of public mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're an idiot if you believe that.

    Give your boxes to symantec, see where they leave you.

  33. The great locking of Cruise Ship Boat Lock padlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...on people's necks are comming and only the chosen Good_People will get the key to free their necks. Brexit and the DNC hacking are divine signs of the upcomming Alockopyse, so repent so you won't spend an eternity with the Cruise Ship Boat Lock padlock stuck on your neck!

  34. I see how this works by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

    So, Mitt Romney was an idiot for calling Russia a threat 4 years ago. But now, we have a new narrative to push: the Russians are helping Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton by releasing emails from the DNC. As part of that, now we have to push the idea that Russia has a badass hacking army that's a threat to the US. Is that about right?

    1. Re:I see how this works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what they say about war with Eurasia....

  35. When the Aliens Come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are ready to insert those taunting viruses into their Apple Macintosh powered motherships. The aliens will lose their marbles simply by trying decipher the Cyrillic alphabet.

  36. Re:Russia hired internet trolls to pose as pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By coincidence, I see a lot of spammers posting links to this story in the last 24 hours. And the only evidence to prove the article's case is one guy's personal anecdotes of noticing some people he thinks might be Russians posting comments positive to Trump.

  37. Re:Russia hired internet trolls to pose as pro-Tru by Layzej · · Score: 1

    By coincidence, I see a lot of spammers....

    Says AC...

  38. I doubt Russia is well defended though. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russian hackers tend not to be too reliable or team oriented. Just my 2c.

  39. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just bullshit.

    Go ahead, and count the Russian names in lists of contributors to sophisticated open source projects. What percentage would that be? About 2%.
    Go ahead, and count top tier quality open source projects build by Russians - nginx, tarantool... oops.

    Well, in a impoverished, third-world, highly competitive and highly criminalized economy there are no wonder that Russians are champions in porn, virus/trojan/ransomware producing, online scams, etc. But the quality of these is in 99% of cases is crap, which reflects the situation in open source contributions.

    Most of Russians are uneducated, marginalized underclass - do not expect great wonders from them. It is a third-world country.

    There are may be a dozen or two of top-tier hackers with real skills and deep knowledge. That's all.

  40. Evolution of a narrative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's interesting to see the narrative evolve on this.

    At first, Russia was suspected of hacking the DNC. Then, the hacker used a Russian VPN. Now, "Russians are great hackers, for example they hacked the DNC."

    It goes from perhaps, to flimsy evidence to 'everyone knows they did it'.

  41. Such disruption. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://memegenerator.net/instance/70468564