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Hackers Bring Ethics To Las Vegas (backchannel.com)

Steven Levy, who has been extensively covering the world of hackers for decades (fun fact: the first time he wrote about it, the word "hacker" didn't really mean much), is sharing the changing perception about hacker conferences, and hackers themselves. In a newsletter, Backchannel's Levy writes about Black Hat conference: What I find most striking in the coverage of these events is that they are no longer seen as outlaw gatherings, but rather conclaves that form a valuable portion of the digital security mosaic. This is a big change from the long period, beginning in the late 1980s, during which the term "hacker" became synonymous with malfeasants, punks, and criminals. The glorious originals -- people who invented just about everything great we do on computers, including the internet -- were outraged at the denigration of a word that was once a badge of honor. [...]
The hackers who attend those conferences are true to that ethic. There's a core morality to both events, built on privacy, equal access to systems, and personal freedom. There's indignation at poorly built systems. There's contempt at those who see computers and the internet as means of controlling people instead of seeing them as tools of liberation.
So who gets to decide what a hacker is in 2016? The question comes up constantly because the term retains some fuzziness. I'll put aside the unquestioned hacker status of coders and designers who innovate on products and private infrastructure. Blissfully, it's now OK for Silicon Valley geeks to proudly declare themselves hackers, the best example of which is Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's naming of his corporate philosophy as "The Hacker Way." But I'm wondering about those people who take the law into their own hands, sometimes not even taking care to limit collateral damage of innocent people. While true hackers generally don't wreak actual destruction, there are some who invade or even tamper with systems for what they consider moral purposes. Some call it hacktivism. Does that mean they are still hackers? That's tough to answer. Hacking into a system doesn't make you a hacker. Using a computer to steal a credit card or a Bitcoin doesn't do it, either. If you work for China and hack into Google; if you work for Russia and hack into the DNC; or if you work for the United States of America and plant a software time bomb in a nuclear centrifuge in Iran -- you are not necessarily a hacker.

33 comments

  1. Hookers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Already done it.

  2. Just Trying To Get Laid. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    Just like everyone else. Unethical humans bring unethics to unethical place. FTFY.

    1. Re:Just Trying To Get Laid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you call a black man in a good suit & tie?

      The defendant.

    2. Re: Just Trying To Get Laid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the difference between a pizza and a black man?

      The pizza will feed a family of four.

  3. Malfesants by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    Actual word would be malefactors, given that no act of malfeasance has been specified.

  4. Black Hat by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Black Hat really isn't about hackers at all, anymore. It's become overtaken by corporate functions, and lots of the talks given are little more than thinly veiled sales pitches. It's a networking event, at most.

    Defcon on the other hand, which takes place immediately following (in a different hotel in Vegas), is very much about hacking, security, and has grown into so much more. In addition to the usual talks, panels, and parties, there's all sorts of hands on things to do. It's a lot of fun, and it costs roughly a tenth of what Black Hat or any similar corporate conferences do. About the only negative thing I have to say about it is that it's terribly crowded (but for good reasons).

    1. Re:Black Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes, so very yes, the last several security events that I have been to have been nothing more than sales events

      On the other hand, Defcon's organizers work diligently to keep things fresh while leveraging their unique heritage

      As far as the term 'hackers' goes, why do you have to turn it into a be-all and end-all term?

      A hacker is somebody who tinkers, tears things apart, figures them out and makes them work (sometimes in unexpected ways)

      Somebody can be BOTH a hacker and a saint, or an asshole or even a criminal... why can't you just throw a descriptor on the term and leave hacker to mean what it always has?

    2. Re:Black Hat by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      Oh man. At least tell me they still play Spot The Fed.

    3. Re:Black Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why can't Black Hat provide a venue for Defcon.
            Forum meeting rooms, snacks, whatever...

      Because it would upstage the marketing.

      Perhaps the separation, but at the same place is a good compromise.

    4. Re:Black Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. One comment about Defcon this year is they needed to fix the fucking sound on the TV channels. Thursday was a waste of time.
      And it's crazy busy.

  5. Ethics?!? by SplawnDarts · · Score: 2

    I get the feel this article was written by someone who's never actually BEEN in Vegas during these conferences. It's not at all uncommon to encounter skimming hardware on ATMs and fake cell sites that try to exploit and brick your phone. The likelihood of seeing either of those any other week anywhere in Vegas is near-zero.

    Ethics my ass. The general opinion of the locals is that if the Paris casino burned down during Defcon with all the exit doors mysteriously barred, nothing of value would be lost.

    1. Re:Ethics?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like an article about a Jihad Convention being held in Afghanistan, talking about how it's all about religious discussion and modernization of the faith and only has a bad name because of a few bad apples from recent past history.

    2. Re:Ethics?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The general opinion of the locals is that if the Paris casino burned down during Defcon with all the exit doors mysteriously barred, nothing of value would be lost.

      I think most DEFCON attendee's would wear this sentiment proudly as a badge of honor.

    3. Re:Ethics?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As somebody who has only been to Vegas to work or attend conferences, the whole fucking town could burn to the ground, with everybody in the town lost, and the rest of the country would barely notice

    4. Re:Ethics?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what would all the movies that use Vegas as an easy plot device do when there's no Vegas? There will be a glut of movies about Vegas being gone, then dudes raising money and then going overseas and doing the same degenerate rubbish in SEA countries. But they're the real Vegas anyway.

  6. I bring ethics with me everywhere.... by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately applying them is a different matter ;-)

    --
    love is just extroverted narcissism
  7. Who gives a shit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who piss and moan about ethics are overcompensating for their lack of ethics or lack of accomplishments. If your greatest accomplishments in life are you haven't hurt anyone, haven't broken any laws, or haven't done anything questionable: You probably haven't done much of anything noteworthy.

    Credit: KMFDM Dogma
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKhKBNS1fPc

  8. black hat is "black hat" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No sane criminal openly goes to criminal conventions, hacker cons are just casual fridays for college students and people who work 9-5.

    You will never see how I made millions with ransomware, because you would be arrested.

  9. Just Give Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are never going to reclaim "hacker", the masses views it as being synonymous with criminals, but it's gotten to the point where most tech people already view it as synonymous with douche bag. The only people who still fight it are those who are old enough to remember the "glory days" and desperately try and cling to them and kids just entering the scene who want to show off how smart they are by being pedantic.

    That's the problem with a living language, it evolves, meanings change.

    1. Re:Just Give Up by sudon't · · Score: 1

      That's right. Language prescriptivists always lose. It's simply the way language works. The French have been trying to encase their language in amber for some decades now, with little success. You may as well try to teach young people that "vinyl" is only used as a collective noun for records. They'll still say, "I bought a vinyl" or, "I have a bunch of vinyls", as retarded as that sounds to older people. "Hacker", and all other words, mean what the speaker intends them to mean, and what people understand them to mean.

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      -- sudon't

      Air-ride Equipped

  10. Nothing wrong with stopping nuclear proliferation by schwit1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Iran is run by a group of people that have repeatedly said they should kill every Jew on the planet. There is nothing unethical about stopping or hindering that.

  11. Hacker. The new terrorist. by geekmux · · Score: 1

    "..if you work for Russia and hack into the DNC -- you are not necessarily a hacker."

    You're right. Not a hacker. In this case you would probably be considered a terrorist.

    Since DHS is considered classifying elections as critical infrastructure, there's probably more truth here than we care to believe.

  12. Pshaw. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    DefCon was just Black Hat for the guys who hadn't reached the big leagues yet, then kind of spiraled into a hipster ghoul of its former self.

    I can't remember the events before it that indicated it was heading that way, but the Dmitri(y?) Skylarov incident, followed by some pulled lectures after that were proof it had lost its way as a true hacker's convention. Most of the people going there are suit and tie 'penetration specialists' now, or n00bs and groupies trying to pretend they are l33t. The real guys that are left aren't stupid enough to show up at conventions and risk getting flagged or profiled anymore.

    As my last 2 cents: Only go to those conventions if you've got nothing to hide. If you do, then either go in a sufficiently advanced disguise that nobody will be able to identify you visually, via x-ray, or biometrically as yourself. And if you can't, then stick to the internet with delayed/intermittent response proxies to throw off traffic analysis, and enjoy socializing with your p2p 'darknet' buddies, who are becoming smaller and smaller fractions of the demographics with every new generation. Seriously, go look at tor and i2p node numbers, figure out how many invitation only hidden sites there are on each, then calculate that out as a percentage of the 80s-90s era hacker scene, and figure it out as a portion of the modern internet scene and seperately as the fraction of privacy aware hacker/activitist netizens. There aren't a lot left in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD, and the numbers seem to be stagnant or dwindling by the day as countries crack down on encryption. The tipping point will be soon, but for all those in First World countries, we are quickly becoming Internet Third World shitholes backed by repressive progressive regimes.

  13. They do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    But now everybody just points at everybody else :)

  14. Re: Nothing wrong with stopping nuclear proliferat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is, because they have only said it, they committed no crimes, Jews live in Iran and have good lives.

    We all wish a demographic of some kind would die off, but we prefer it happens by godly interventions, preferable like they never existed.

  15. Re: Nothing wrong with stopping nuclear prolifera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice bullshit. Iran actively funds terrorism, like the Palestinians.

  16. Re: Nothing wrong with stopping nuclear prolifera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Palestine is no more synonymous with terrorism than being anti-Israel is synonymous with antisemitism.

  17. FBI? thats just splendid :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you also work for the FBI manishs?

  18. that's the problem with defcon by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    What I find most striking in the coverage of these events is that they are no longer seen as outlaw gatherings

    That is the problem with Defcon now. It's starting to feel more like work.

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    1. Re:that's the problem with defcon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Defcon is generally an excuse for geeks to go to Vegas and get shitfaced and sexually harass anything that moves.

  19. How to be a hacker. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Learning from the media and movie industries I have become a successful hacker. Here are some tips.
    1) wear a hoodie
    2) work in poorly lit room
    3) change your terminal font colour to green.

  20. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if they really wanted to bring ethics to Vegas they would need to burn the entire place down

  21. Zuckerberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > proudly declare themselves hackers, the best example of which is Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's naming of his corporate philosophy as "The Hacker Way."
    br.

    Zuckerberg isn't a hacker. He is a rich jewish kid with an extremely popular big-brother style website.