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Hacker Publishes Cell Phone Numbers of House Democrats (thehill.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the prank-call dept.

Another day, another leak. A suspected Russian hacker known as "Guccifer 2.0" has published the phone numbers of House Democrats on his website Friday. The Hill reports: "The document was obtained from the cyberattack on the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC). The hacker also published DCCC shared passwords to several online databases and news networks. The dump also included the memos on the House race for Florida's 18th district, including opposition research on the Republican contenders, which is being vacated by Democrat Patrick Murphy as he vies for the Senate. The hacker also claimed to have breached House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's computer and published a memo sent to her about a 2015 fundraiser for Morgan Carroll, who is running for a Colorado House seat against Republican Mike Coffman."

82 comments

  1. GPL: Intellectual Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    As a consultant for several large companies, I'd always done my work on
    Windows. Recently however, a top online investment firm asked us to do
    some work using Linux. The concept of having access to source code was
    very appealing to us, as we'd be able to modify the kernel to meet our
    exacting standards which we're unable to do with Microsoft's products.

    Although we met several technical challenges along the way
    (specifically, Linux's lack of Token Ring support and the fact that we
    were unable to defrag its ext2 file system), all in all the process
    went smoothly. Everyone was very pleased with Linux, and we were
    considering using it for a great deal of future internal projects.

    So you can imagine our surprise when we were informed by a lawyer that
    we would be required to publish our source code for others to use. It
    was brought to our attention that Linux is copyrighted under something
    called the GPL, or the Gnu Protective License. Part of this license
    states that any changes to the kernel are to be made freely available.
    Unfortunately for us, this meant that the great deal of time and money
    we spent "touching up" Linux to work for this investment firm would
    now be available at no cost to our competitors.

    Furthermore, after reviewing this GPL our lawyers advised us that any
    products compiled with GPL'ed tools - such as gcc - would also have to
    its source code released. This was simply unacceptable.

    Although we had planned for no one outside of this company to ever
    use, let alone see the source code, we were now put in a difficult
    position. We could either give away our hard work, or come up with
    another solution. Although it was tough to do, there really was no
    option: We had to rewrite the code, from scratch, for Windows 2000.

    I think the biggest thing keeping Linux from being truly competitive
    with Microsoft is this GPL. Its draconian requirements virtually
    guarantee that no business will ever be able to use it. After my
    experience with Linux, I won't be recommending it to any of my
    associates. I may reconsider if Linux switches its license to
    something a little more fair, such as Microsoft's "Shared Source".
    Until then its attempts to socialize the software market will insure
    it remains only a bit player.

    Thank you for your time.

    1. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

      You're offtopic... but this is the kind of thing Slashdot was built to discuss. Try submitting this as a story and hopefully the editors will respond.

    2. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      You know what this means? It means you should have read the licensing provisions before you started your project. It's not like they were a secret, they're included in every bit of software that falls under the GPL.

      Hah, just kidding. You almost had me, right up until the part where you started gushing about Microsoft's "Shared Source" licensing. That was a bit much and you gave yourself away.

      Nice troll, though. 7 out of 10 for the effort.

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    3. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      I'd have been more impressed if it was at least an original rant, but its actually decades-old copypasta.

    4. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Obvious bullshitter is obvious

      "defragging ext2 file system".
      1. ext2 is ancient history.
      2. The file system doesn't need to be defragged. It's not Windows.

      "our lawyers advised us that any products compiled with GPL'ed tools - such as gcc - would also have to its source code released."
      3. Absolutely false. If your lawyer (as if you actually had one) had done any research on the GPL, they would have discovered the LGPL. Code written using LGPL libraries doesn't have to be released.

      "although it was tough to do, there really was no option: We had to rewrite the code, from scratch, for Windows 2000."
      4. Only a total moron would have ignored FreeBSD, which has had token ring support for a long time, and allows you to keep your source code to yourself. There are many fewer problems porting a program from linux to FreeBSD than from linux to Windows.

      " Part of this license states that any changes to the kernel are to be made freely available. Unfortunately for us, this meant that the great deal of time and money we spent "touching up" Linux to work for this investment firm would now be available at no cost to our competitors."
      5. You would only have had to give your source to the same imaginary investment firm you gave the program to. That includes modified kernels. They are under no obligation to distribute the source unless they distribute the program, so any program for internal use would be perfectly fine.

      Come on, you can do better than that. Or maybe not ... in which case you're one sad f*ck.

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    5. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 2

      Nice troll, though. 7 out of 10 for the effort.

      We rate things here on a scale of -1 to 5...

    6. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by imidan · · Score: 1

      Nice troll, though. 7 out of 10 for the effort.

      The "effort" was mostly in dragging this old chestnut out of mothballs. I mean, the least he could have done was ditched the crap about token ring, ext2, and Windows 2000. I give it 2/10 with one point for nostalgia and one for inexplicably having this copypasta (born before the word 'copypasta' even existed) lying around to post in the first place.

      I didn't look very hard, but here is the same anecdote on Slashdot in 2002: https://slashdot.org/comments....

    7. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      You can compile using GPL tools but with libraries that have proprietary licenses or BSD/MIT type licenses. QB64 is compiled like this.

    8. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have to release source code for anything unless you intend to redistribute your modified versions to the public. If you keep this all in-house, you don't have to share anything.

    9. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This long post was FBI. Its immediacy after first post makes it clear how FBI operate under the name "Slashdot" now.

      Keep your mind clear when you read. Pay attention that much said on this site serves the sole purpose of the FBI and US Government. This includes anything said about Microsoft, Google, Facebook because they are all US Government tracking, profiling, and data mining operations.

      SIGINT and HUMINT.

    10. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Go take your meds, Sparky.

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    11. Re:GPL: Intellectual Theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^ "Zontar The Mindless " is already dead.

  2. Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 2

    Not much is lost when a list of phone numbers and names is published... remember what happened when Paris Hilton (hotel chain rich girl and occasional TV star) had her SIdekick list published. Those who didn't want to be called changed their number quickly, and some who did want to be called such as low-rated TV personality Justin Gunn made bank collecting information... he even made a Current TV video bragging about his newfound fame.

    Remember, everybody in the US House of Representatives is up for reelection right now. So, those phone numbers can be pointed at contribution-taking call centers and taken to the bank..

    So, is this the first WIn10 hack or just a lazily e-mailed document?

    1. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by msauve · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Not much is lost..."

      Which isn't quite the same as saying "much is gained." Damn congresscritters, anytime I "email" one (they seem to think filling out a web form is somehow email), they'll start spamming me from a "we don't reply to email sent to this address" source. Fuck 'em. Spam 'em. They deserve it. They're supposed to represent us, they're not the special snowflakes they think they are.

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      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    2. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Call 'em all up at random, and say random nonsense stuff like: "It is very warm in Odessa this year. The camels are in heat!"

      Or just a random "numbers station" string: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      We'll have the whole NSA chasing their own tails in a few days!

      However, to be fair, we will need a list of Republican numbers, as well.

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    3. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Funny, when police use cameras to watch protests where people are voluntarily being in the open and visible to everyone around, in case someone decides to destroy someone elses property or cause bodily harm, it's an invasion of privacy because "you have nothing to hide" doesn't apply.

      However, when phone numbers, passwords and so forth which are hidden from view for various reason are exposed, suddenly the invasion of privacy doesn't apply.

      No, no hypocrisy whatsoever.

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      We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
    4. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, when police use cameras to watch protests where people are voluntarily being in the open and visible to everyone around, in case someone decides to destroy someone elses property or cause bodily harm, it's an invasion of privacy because "you have nothing to hide" doesn't apply.

      However, when phone numbers, passwords and so forth which are hidden from view for various reason are exposed, suddenly the invasion of privacy doesn't apply.

      No, no hypocrisy whatsoever.

      Oh, it applies...just nobody gives a fuck in this case.

    5. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, blame the Constitution, which was devised for a tiny nation of fewer than four million... That's including the 18% that were slaves. We're over 80x larger than we were in the 1790 census, but the House is only seven times as big. It's considerably less representative than the framers envisioned.

      If the House had grown proportionally there'd be almost five thousand reps and more of them would answer their own correspondence. It'd be harder to gerrymander a decisive party advantage without winning the popular vote too. With modern IT it'd be perfectly manageable. You'd have to build a new Capitol though.

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    6. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by hackwrench · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It is high time we as a world took another look at what kind of government we want to have. We have been saddled far too long with a government foisted on us by the world ruling class composed of Hobbesians, Hamiltonians and Muslims, nonexhaustive, but the most prominent and consistent of the bad actors who believe that Man is an ultraviolent monster and needs an all-powerful government in order to have peace.

    7. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0, Troll

      but the most prominent and consistent of the bad actors who believe that Man is an ultraviolent monster and needs an all-powerful government in order to have peace.

      This might also be an artifact less of the nature of our Constitution and instead the result of the Christian underpinnings of the nation. Remember, a lot of the early arrivals here, right up until the time of the Founding Fathers, believed that man was a fallen creature born in sin and requiring redemption. While that might not be a bad way to build a personal system of morality, it's a horrible way to build a social system. Also, the notion that there is an "elect" (which happens to coincide with "the rich") has caused us to revere wealth to the point that we measure human worth in terms of bank accounts (reputed or otherwise) and belongings. If you're rich and famous, you must be smart and virtuous. This is also an artifact of the religion of the early settlers. It's one reason why we ended up with a Constitution that puts several layers of elite between people and government. The USA was designed from the beginning to be a country government by the elite.

      Unfortunately, this has so degraded people's ability to think that it might just be too late to convene a new constitutional convention. At this point, who knows what the hell we'd end up with?

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    8. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by DaHat · · Score: 1

      You'd have to build a new Capitol though.

      True... but just imagine the fun of the result!

      Want to get some legislation passed? You and your supporters must show up on the floor and face off face to face with those who oppose you. Your goal, move the legislation a minimum of 10 yards in 4 attempts. If you succeed, you receive a 'first down' and get to start the process over.

      Your ultimate goal however, is to drive the legislation to the other side of the floor to what we could call, the 'end zone' at which point is deemed passed.

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    9. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by hackwrench · · Score: 0

      Well to paraphrase Captain Kirk, "Who said anything about a new constitutional convention. We're taking over." We as a world, not a nation need to sit down and have a talk about the government we think we want to have and start living by them. However we arrange the economy, we will end up not sending taxes to the old system and taking care of the underprivileged that were useful to the old system, that despite whatever hold the old system may have over the military, it will collapse. Have some reading: http://www.lightspeedmagazine....

    10. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The federal government was meant to represent the states rather than the people, which matches up quite nicely to how the overall representation has scaled.

      Maybe one could trace our problems back to the senate being chosen by the populace rather than the states as a large part of our problem. "Oh no, it's much more *efficient* to have just one entity control everything, that's what we should do..." You are seeing the results of that - rulership by mob mentality.

      Not to mention, imagine how much "would get done" if the house was 3100 representatives strong. Yeah. Please rethink that.

    11. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by dfenstrate · · Score: 2

      Well, blame the Constitution, which was devised for a tiny nation of fewer than four million... That's including the 18% that were slaves. We're over 80x larger than we were in the 1790 census, but the House is only seven times as big. It's considerably less representative than the framers envisioned.

      If the House had grown proportionally there'd be almost five thousand reps and more of them would answer their own correspondence. It'd be harder to gerrymander a decisive party advantage without winning the popular vote too. With modern IT it'd be perfectly manageable. You'd have to build a new Capitol though.

      Such a large body has it's own problems. The Federalist papers, #58, discusses the topic, and the founding fathers actually did consider population growth and it's impact on representation. Summary here.

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      Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
    12. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by hey! · · Score: 1

      Madison's arguments in this case are specious -- at least as regards to enlarging the house. Take the argument that a larger house essentially dilutes the talent pool. It's true that for a fixed size population if you make the house sufficiently larger you'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill seats. But enlarging the house proportionally to population has no such effect. He argues that a larger house is too poorly coordinated, but he does not reckon on the existence of political parties and the discipline they can enforce.

      What's more debate in those days took the form of oratory, and the oratory was by modern standards incalculably long-winded. Today oratory is engaged in for the benefit of CSPAN cameras; the real work of debate is done off the floor. There is no reason, especially in the era of asynchronous electronic communication, that you can't have a discussion with several thousand participants.

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    13. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You really think increasing the number of congresscritters would serve a purpose? Then you're just have way more lawyers too stupid to practice law living in sheltered conditions. It's not like lawyers need to be a protected species, so why bother?

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    14. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      When I provide a cell phone to my employee and pay for it, I sure as FUCK would want to know the number!

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    15. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by phantomfive · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It'd be harder to gerrymander a decisive party advantage without winning the popular vote too.

      If people didn't blindly vote based on party, gerrymandering wouldn't work.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    16. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not thinking creatively enough. An enterprising person could use the list to exploit a bunch of handsets via any number of targeted mobile OS vulnerabilities, many requiring no end user interaction to deliver the goods (only SMS inbound, for example). The end users could then change their numbers all they like, but until their handsets are securely wiped (not a guaranteed fix in some cases) or outright replaced, those devices would be pretty handy as exfiltration endpoints. -PCP

    17. Re:Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Justin Who?

    18. Re: Remember the Paris Hilton Sidekick... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      You really think increasing the number of congresscritters would serve a purpose? Then you're just have way more lawyers too stupid to practice law living in sheltered conditions. It's not like lawyers need to be a protected species, so why bother?

      I do.

      First it lowers representation costs. When you have 1 per 30,000 (that's 10,000 reps), it's a lot harder to buy a majority off. $1B over 5001 reps is only $20,000 each.

      Second, there's no need to pay them the exorbitant costs - just a local office. We can even scale their pay to be representative of their area.

      And it's not for life - a smaller voter base makes it much easier to toss someone out - especially if they're not representing the area like they should.

  3. How about publishing something useful? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Annoying American politicians on their personal cell phones seems rather juvenile. How about publishing Kim Jong Un's cell number so we can have some REAL fun?

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    1. Re:How about publishing something useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "We have to hack the emails to know what's inside them!"
      -Nancy Pelosi's hacker

  4. Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavior? by shanen · · Score: 1

    On the theory that hackers are technological leaders, it looks like they are leading us down the drain.

    Each time I seriously consider the Fermi Paradox, I keep coming to the conclusion that technological civilizations are quite prone to suicide via insanity. We are apes with nuclear bombs and biological weapons and no understanding of what we are doing. We have reached the point where we could accidentally exterminate ourselves at any time, but soon it will only take one madman to do it on purpose. Never been a shortage of madmen.

    The transition from naturally evolved intelligence to rationally designed intelligence appears to be quite rocky. My quatloos say we're gonna lose and exterminate ourselves first.

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  5. Too much computer use bad for mental health? by shanen · · Score: 1

    I think it was some kind of cut-and-paste trollage of ancient history. Maybe his real point was to demonstrate the uncivilized behavior of hackers and geeks? In that case, he seems to have made his point pretty well.

    Pretty sure this joke goes back at least 30 years, but it was my conclusion that excessive use of computers is not good for mental hygiene.

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    1. Re:Too much computer use bad for mental health? by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

      I think it was some kind of cut-and-paste trollage of ancient history.

      The cutting of lines early seems to resemble something that was posted on Prodigy.

    2. Re:Too much computer use bad for mental health? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I remember Prodigy. It was an early competitor with AOL, back when it was considered reasonable to pay the $12 an hour and not the $6 an hour to connect to CompuServ, because for $12 you didn't connect at 300 baud.

    3. Re:Too much computer use bad for mental health? by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

      I was on Prodigy during the downhill slide of pricing from $3.60 an hour down to $2.95 and eventually all-you-could-use for $20.

    4. Re:Too much computer use bad for mental health? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      I worked in the department next door to Prodigy, at Sears Payment Systems, back in the 80s. They were in the same converted warehouse in Bumfuck, TN.

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  6. FEC charging Bill Maher by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Informative

    The FEC is not investigating the DNC for moving $61 million from local elections into the Hillary Clinton campaign, even though that would appear to directly violate FEC regulations, and possibly money laundering laws as well. (It literally rearranged the primary political landscape.)

    However, the FEC did say that Bill Maher made an excessive and impermissible donation to the Bernie Sanders campaign. They're definitely on the ball and looking after our interests!

    Oh, and new E-mails from the Clinton server have surfaced from a FOI request by Judicial Watch.

    Remember how Hillary said she deleted *only* personal E-mails that would be of no interest to the investigation? Yup - several work-related E-mails in the new batch, which were not given over to the FBI. (Also, these were released under by the State Department under court order, which means that the State Department had them and didn't make them available to the FBI either.)

    And of course, it's not about the lies and corruption that these leaks uncover... it's those evil Russians meddling in our internal political affairs. What right do they have to meddle in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation?

    I've gotten 'kinda jaded about whether it's "appropriate" or "inappropriate" to remove personal details from a leak and such. Go ahead and dox the lawmakers, maybe it'll get them to make better laws to protect their privacy, and by accident, protect ours as well.

    Maybe I should start a petition on Change.org to get some of these problems addressed. That always works.

    1. Re:FEC charging Bill Maher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're definitely on the ball and looking after our interests!

      I agree. Bernie supporters, and Bill Maher in particular, should be severely punished.

    2. Re:FEC charging Bill Maher by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      The world ruling class see Man as an ultraviolent monster that needs all-powerful government to survive. To what extent would you go to if that's what you thought?

    3. Re:FEC charging Bill Maher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Reading your post, I couldn't help but think of this A Clockwork Orange poster, and once again I wonder how many present day twenty-somethings (or even thirty-somethings) have even heard of the film. I've always believed it should be regarded primarily as an instructive and cautionary tale with regard to government apparatus. -PCP

    4. Re:FEC charging Bill Maher by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's that damn Vast Right Wing Conspiracy still at work. Making the DNC move money around illegally, forcing Hillary! and the State Department to hide e-mails, and even causing the Russians to get involved. It's all Rush Limbaugh, dontcha know!

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    5. Re:FEC charging Bill Maher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like hearing things that don't conform to my political biases. Everyone but me is an idiot who is not fit to live.

      Therefore I'm sure that the massive groundswell of interest will get them to finally amend the constitution to tell everybody I don't like that they're not allowed to communicate any longer. It's obviously the right thing to do.

    6. Re:FEC charging Bill Maher by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      even though that would appear to directly violate FEC regulations

      The article you linked doesn't claim that.

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  7. Everybody done working for the weekend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ready to find a new romance? Call 2027276300 and ask for Nancy!

  8. Breaking news ... by mattyj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Democrats have cell phones and do research on how to win elections. More at 11.

    More like Guccifer 0.2.

  9. HRC's E-mail Server by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

    Mrs. Clinton is having trouble with people complaining about her e-mail server, while the truth is she's been facing the limits of IT and backup for years. Today there's multi-TB hard drives... but those weren't available during the Bubba Administration. Seems like nobody in politics can keep a contact list private these days.

  10. Sad to see tRump is so weak that he is forcing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Putin to do this. It's just low energy weak.

  11. Re:Sad to see tRump is so weak that he is forcing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wait. Trump is weak, but forced Putin to do something?

  12. Government Lucifer. No hacker named Guccifer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a CIA spook scare of the Democrats. CIA are the domestic enemies all the way back before 9/11 and including 9/11.

  13. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    No understanding? I know that our understanding is limited, but no understanding, really? And who taught you your understanding of apes?

  14. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by geek · · Score: 0, Troll

    On the theory that hackers are technological leaders, it looks like they are leading us down the drain.

    Each time I seriously consider the Fermi Paradox, I keep coming to the conclusion that technological civilizations are quite prone to suicide via insanity. We are apes with nuclear bombs and biological weapons and no understanding of what we are doing. We have reached the point where we could accidentally exterminate ourselves at any time, but soon it will only take one madman to do it on purpose. Never been a shortage of madmen.

    The transition from naturally evolved intelligence to rationally designed intelligence appears to be quite rocky. My quatloos say we're gonna lose and exterminate ourselves first.

    "Mommy help I need a safe space the hax0rz keep picking on my favorite political party!"

  15. Re:Government Lucifer. No hacker named Guccifer. by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

    That right there is some high-quality tinfoil.

  16. The sad part of all this hacking by flopsquad · · Score: 1

    After both parties get hacked and all the dirt is on the table, it would be utterly shocking to find out they're only as corrupt as we suspect they are.

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  17. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People question why we need to move into space? THIS. THIS is why we need to move into space.

    Because right now, every single intelligence we know of in the whole universe depends on Earth, and one lucky psychopath could wipe them out (or throw us so far back technologically that, with remaining surface-accessible resources, we would never recover).

  18. So, I can call my elected representitive by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    who happens to be either Barbara Boxer (D-umshit) or Dianne Fienstein (D-tached) and tell them to STFU and retire already?

    / breath
    // I'm not holding it
    /// retire already, you 2 old dipshits

    1. Re:So, I can call my elected representitive by Snotnose · · Score: 1

      Damn, house Ds. Boxer/Feinstein are in the Senate. My sentiments remain the same tho.

    2. Re: So, I can call my elected representitive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call your rep. You should have an elected one in the house, too.

  19. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by bug1 · · Score: 1

    Technology cant make us more human, we need to work that out for ourselves, and thats where we are lagging.

  20. Re:Government Lucifer. No hacker named Guccifer. by sexconker · · Score: 0

    Is it?

    Name three things the CIA has done that were not related to their clandestine and treasonous attacks against the American citizenry.

  21. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The psychopaths will follow, whatever other rock we decide to settle on. They will act as parasites, they will seek to enslave, and they will destroy, just as they do here.

  22. Russian hacker? Any proof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is there any evidence that this "Guccifer" is a Russian hacker or is that just something the incompetent FBI is claiming?

    1. Re: Russian hacker? Any proof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't voice doubts about the Truth as enunciated by our next President, Hillary Rodham Clinton, to whom you owe unquestioning allegiance and obedience. Dissent is... Unwise.

    2. Re: Russian hacker? Any proof? by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2

      Only circumstantial evidence. Hackers who work for an intelligence service are never going to get caught, much less extradited. Of course, the same can be said of ANY elite hacker.

      IMHO, it's not the Russians. They are widely suspected of getting Hillary's emails by monitoring the original "Guccifer". If so, they would want Hillary as POTUS because they could easily control her via blackmail. Hell, they don't even need the actual emails. The mere threat should be enough.

  23. Alternate Take by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    Wait. Trump is going to nuke the Russians, but the Russians are working with Trump? Who is made enough to nuke Russia again?

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  24. Publishing politicians' phone numbers is fair play by pmikell · · Score: 1

    Given that politicians are allowed to pay bribes to obtain unlisted numbers of private citizens.

  25. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    That's an excellent rebuttal that answers every one of his points spot-on.

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  26. Always with the insults by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    I don't like hearing things that don't conform to my political biases. Everyone but me is an idiot who is not fit to live.

    Yeah?

    Then tell me where I'm wrong.

    Throwing insults is 'kinda cheap and meaningless, ya know?

  27. Hacker publishes by TinyTheBrontosaurus · · Score: 1

    Hacker publishes URLs of 435 major websites

  28. How to change your phone number by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

    Changing your phone number is mightily inconvenient. What would be really helpful would be if say Google and Apple set up something so that you change your number, tell Google and Apple about the change complete with a list of all people you want to know about it (that could be for example your address book on your phone), and then they go and update your phone number on all Android phones and iPhones where the user is on your list.

    1. Re:How to change your phone number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some reason, the articles on this have buried the lead, which is that the data includes their home addresses. Not so easy to change those.

  29. Serious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are all the liberals soo hell bent on making peace with mother Russia, when in fact Russia hates you liberals. The same question can be asked about Islamic Fundamentalism. Why do liberals love Islam soo much when Islam is against everything the liberals are supporting. Also why are the conservatives soo hell bent on going to war with Islamic fundamentalists when they seem like such natural allies (pro gun, pro family values, pro religion, etc)

    Just seems like there are some strange bed fellows in politics. Is there a logical reason for anyone's beliefs or is it just happenstance and entirely dependent on which region of the country you grew up in and what manner of propaganda is being espoused by the media.

  30. Considering NSA mass surveillance... by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2

    ... fully funded by Congress, I have ZERO sympathy for politicians getting hacked.

  31. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by shanen · · Score: 1

    Seems to be basic lack of human understanding there, but mostly I think you two are just making my point, so I should thank you.

    Unless it is just one of you with a sock puppet. Seems like a lot of trouble, but given such a weak position, you might think you need it.

    It doesn't matter who is acting in an uncivilized manner towards whom. But before I waste so much time, why don't you set the stage by actually trying to defend your socipathy? Probably Libertarian insanity on the thin evidence.

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  32. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by shanen · · Score: 1

    Hmm... I'm not sure it's a matter of being more or less human. I think that guided evolution of our technology is fundamentally logarithmic, while the random evolution of our biology is linear. Philosophy can help bridge the gap, but you can argue that philosophy is as morally neutral as technology.

    I've already confessed that I don't see a good solution, but I wish you had one to offer. Sometimes I think what we need is some kind of regulator on the speed of technological progress, because I don't see much of anything that can be done on the biological side. Even with such solution approaches as passive eugenics or active genetic engineering, it seems unlikely that we human beings can keep up... In terms of evolutionary competition and subject to the theory that intelligence actually is a survival trait, then the machines should be taking over any day now.

    Obsolete species are lucky if they can find a zoo to delay their extinction.

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  33. Better get a good lawyer. Oh, wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he's a Democrat and Obama is running the executive branch. Never mind.

    The Obama admin prosecuted, convicted, and jailed right-winger Dinesh D'Souza for doing this for a lowly Senate campaign that had no chance of winning.

    Bill knows D'Souza and his case, having had him as a guest on his show, and thus should have known better.

  34. "Suspected Russian Hacker"??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WHO suspects the hacker was Russian? It's a great talking point the Democrats pushed out to all their press stooges to try to distract from the content, and two Democrat-aligned security firms dutifully parrot the claim based on the thin veneer of a Russina VPN address (as though nobody but Russian intel uses those {sigh}) but the even the Obama admin FBI (the one that did not indict Hillary) is saying there's not enough evidence to pin it on Russia.

    Saying "Suspect Russian Hacker" is every bit as valid here as saying Obama is the "suspected ISIS founder" based on Trump's political rhetoric. The fact that a person with a vested political case may want people to suspect something and may even believe it is not sufficient to put the assertion into a news piece as though unbiased serious criminal/military/spy investigators are the ones doing the suspecting.

  35. Re:Does civilization depend upoon civilized behavi by bug1 · · Score: 1

    How about we just make sure the benefits of technology spread to all the people, equally.
    The way i see it at the moment, technology concentrates power through its tendency to create global monopolies, its not the way capitalist societies are supposed to work.
    Intellectual Property rights need to be reformed, thats the only way i think we can control the speed of technological evolution.

  36. This Is Not A Trivial Matter by Amigo+Van+Helical · · Score: 1

    Here's the URL for the an article on Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/tech-po... (Disclaimer: I have no relationship w/ Ars Technica. I just happened to read the article there.)

    Sure, public email addresses are just that: public. Apparently the released info goes further:

    For the Reps:

    • Home addresses
    • Home phone numbers
    • Names of family members

    If I read the article right, similar personal info for aides and support staff was released. And this was only done for the Democrats. No information, personal or public, about the Republicans was released.

    We are less than three months from election day. Campaigns need functioning, reliable communication channels to coordinate, to share information, to organize events, etc. If they're inundated w/ spam, they won't be able to work effectively. If they start changing their email addresses, phone numbers, etc., their communication can easily be impacted. It's likely that the dox will make it more difficult for the Democrats to compete in the upcoming election.

    Further, "Guccifer 2.0" claimed in the announcement that this is evidence that the election is a "farce" (from G's blog)... that everything is done "behind the scenes". Thus, Guccifer 2.0 isn't just broadcasting information; he/she/they are trying to sow doubt about the validity of the electoral process. This isn't an attack on the Democrats. It's really an attack on a key element of our republic.

  37. Government comes to a halt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is horrible.

    If they switch their phone numbers, how will the lobbyists be able to get a hold of them to tell them how to vote?