Facebook Removes Fake Article About Megyn Kelly From Trending Topics (theverge.com)

Less than a week after Facebook announced that it is changing the way it handles the Trending Topics section on the social networking website, a fake article about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly was found trending on Facebook. The article, headlined "Breaking: Fox News Exposes Traitor Megyn Kelly, Kicks Her Out for Backing Hillary" comes from a conspiracy theory website, which has more than 200,000 likes on Facebook. Its Megyn Kelly story was the topic of discussion for many across the world. The article is obviously fake. The other cited source for this trending topic was an outlet called "Conservating101"

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YOU WELSH? WTF YOU SPELLING UR NAME WITH A Y

[Anonymous Coward]

 

Re:YOU WELSH? WTF YOU SPELLING UR NAME WITH A Y

[Anonymous Coward]

What? Some parents like doodling with names. Others go a little further: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (yes it's fake, but all that dissimilar to many a name in some sports).

Re:YOU WELSH? WTF YOU SPELLING UR NAME WITH A Y

[Anonymous Coward]

Her kids names are Yardley, Yates, and Thatcher!!! The pretentious names of her children are the surest sign of being a low-class attention-seeker. You can always tell the pretenders and the wannabes by the fancy names they give their kids–names destined to be stripper names in less than a decade. Notice me, notice me, notice my kids and their fancy names! Aren’t we exotic!

Re:YOU WELSH? WTF YOU SPELLING UR NAME WITH A Y

[Anonymous Coward]

Sounds like an SJW got its panties in a wad.. maybe you should go "on a journey"

Blood

[Anonymous Coward]

Did the article mention anything about blood coming out of her wherever?

Not obvious

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not entirely obvious that this type of news would be a fake. Also, since when does an "End the Fed" group have to be a conspiracy theory group? This organization is recognized for their continued failure and fantasy view of economics for decades.

Re: Not obvious

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes it obvious, its on Facebook.

"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

Being a non-USA person, I have to ask, what is this Fox News I keep hearing about?

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[mark-t]

No, you don't.

Really, you don't have to ask... in fact, it's probably better that you don't know.

Let's just say that calling "news" is not only stretching the definition of the word, it is mutating it into something else entirely, and any similarity it may have to something that is ordinarily called "news" is most likely coincidental and probably even unintentional.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[unixisc]

It is one of the cable TV news channels in the US, owned by News Corp. It is different from the other channels in that opinions of commentators on the channel tend Right, as opposed to the usual Left in the other channels, like CNN, PBS, ABC, et al. As a result, most people who are on the right half of the political spectrum tend to view this channel for their news, instead of the others listed above. That also results in people on the left half of the spectrum slamming them everywhere, including here.

The 'across the world' in the summary is the usual BS - the elections here are not being closely followed outside the US, until maybe October or November. Except maybe in Canada, Mexico and Europe.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

Fox News is the closest thing to a conservative right wing news station among extremely corrupt left wing supporting mainstream media stations such as NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS etc. Fox has issues such as sexist aggressive hosts and very strong support for religion/military where the others mention have been caught red-handed misleading the public either via corrupt anchors such as Brian Williams, Dan Rather, and/or blatantly omitting details in order to push biased agendas.

That's why alternative online news publications such as the Breitbart and the Huffington Post have gained such traction over the years in the US.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[110010001000]

Amazingly Facebook is used worldwide, and thus this story was seen worldwide.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[TechnoAngina]

Since when is CNN left? MSNBC for sure, but CNN has a more conservative bias these days. It's been pushing right ever since it saw the obscene profits Fox made duping it's audience.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

I guess you haven't been watching CNN for the past year -- the idea that their coverage is right-leaning is laughable.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[gmack]

Not entirely, People here hate FOX because they tend to be mindless cheerleaders of anything right wing and have a questionabe relationship with the truth. I hate it even though I tend to be fiscally conservative, Personally I lost any of my last respect for them the day they hired Rachel Marsden who is famous in my province for having her swim coach fired for sexual harassment for turning down her advances. Unfortunately for her(and the university), it turned out he kept the voicemails she left on his answering machine. But that's FOX they don't care about accuracy, only controversy that generates views.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[DidgetMaster]

Since when is CNN left?

Since forever. It might not be as far left as MSNBC, but it is left just like ABC, NBC, and CBS. Attracting money by mimicking FOX News might be a temptation, but it goes against the DNA of the writers, editors, and anchors. It's like Hollywood where all the biggest blockbuster films are PG and PG-13 rated and cater to family audiences; yet all the producers keep spitting out films that have very restrictive ratings (R, NC-17, etc.) because that's the kind of films they like and somehow wish that everybody else did.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[unixisc]

Every profile is localized around the place the subscriber lives. So if you are a FaceBook member in, say, Singapore, you will see stories about what's going on in and around Singapore. Particularly if your friends list consists of people from that city as well

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[balbeir]

Since the new "left" became the old center

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Austerity Empowers]

-- the idea that they have coverage laughable.

ftfy

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Darinbob]

CNN doesn't do news anymore, left or right. It's all talking heads all the time. Even Fox actually has news on occasion, carefully sandwiched between editorials disguised as news. But CNN the 24 hours news pioneer is basically dead as a journalism outlet.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Darinbob]

I don't mind if a news outlet leans left or right, the audience can figure that out and deal with it. The problem with Fox is that it is constant non-stop editorializing disguised as news. Even your straight up "man bites dog" story can't help but throw in some political jibe.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[rduke15]

Since the new "left" became the old center

No mod points today. Hopefully someone else will mod this up.

Indeed, viewed from Europe, Clinton's policy proposals sound like normal center right stuff. And she is the only real candidate anyway. Most representatives of the other party would be labelled extreme right in Europe, but I guess even the neo-fascists in Europe wouldn't have selected Trump as their candidate. So what is a normal news organisation to do? Try to pretend that a "narcissistic sociopath" is just a normal candidate and that the insane things he is saying are just a different opinion?

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[drinkypoo]

So you mean the external renaming to 'Clinton News Network' was only because the letters matched?

Clinton is not a liberal. She is a neocon. Trump is not a conservative. He is just a sleazebag.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[DaHat]

I never said she was a liberal, historically liberals believe in personal liberty... she does not. She's very much a illiberal progressive.

Care to re frame your statement to be something related to what I said?

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[youngone]

The US elections have been reported almost nightly where I live, which is none of the above.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

Hmm, I would say the endless "Donald Trump farted today, JUST LIKE HITLER!" stories are still technically "coverage".

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[epyT-R]

A news media company that has a different bias in its news than the bias you're likely accustomed to.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

Clinton is a progressive, not a liberal or a neocon. A liberal would not tolerate 'affirmative action' legislation and neocons would not tolerate her feminism. Trump is a neocon who sometimes pretends to be libertarian. Both are statists.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[epyT-R]

The right's got foxnews, the left's got NYT and NPR (list not all inclusive). I would take any 'journalism' from these outlets with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

If you think Fox "news" is anything but political corruption, propaganda from Republicans, and profits. It is indeed you who are the stupid one.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Darinbob]

I like NPR. It does really try to be balanced, though local stations may have their own biases. Ie, San Francisco NPR is definitely nuttier with its own local programming at times relative to NPR I hear elsewhere. There are definitely radio stations so far left that they make NPR seem like Fox. It's one of the few places where you do get reasoned views from different sides without it turning into a big shouting match. So I basically get my news from a mix of BBC and NPR.

But you can never define where the "center" is for politics, so anything that truly has no political bias will still be assumed to be biased by everyone with a partisan outlook. People say that reality has a liberal bias, but I think that reality has a bias to the left of right wing partisans and a bias to the right of left wing partisans, for those people that must put everything on a simplistic one dimensional scale.

For instance, everytime there's a discussion about the situation in Israel, there will be angry letters written to the local station accusing it of having either an pro-Israel bias or a pro-Palestinean bias.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Ol Olsoc]

So you mean the external renaming to 'Clinton News Network' was only because the letters matched?

Clinton is not a liberal. She is a neocon. Trump is not a conservative. He is just a sleazebag.

Gotta remember though, the right wing pendulum has swung so far right that all but one person is a liberal now. The only right winger in America is Barry Goldwater, and he ded.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Ol Olsoc]

Since when is CNN left?

Since forever. It might not be as far left as MSNBC, but it is left just like ABC, NBC, and CBS.

Well, Fox News is now left of center. This is what we get when people who call themselves conservatives have to have a contest seeing who is the most conservative. Like the guy at work who built a house and insisted on wood siding because Vinyl and Aluminum was catering to the liberals.

They are all liberal, unless you get your news and truth from Breitbart, and Alex Jones. At least in some folks minds. Those are mostly peopel who only want to hear news they already agree with.

And oh, so angry. I heard some guys on Amateur Radio last night seriously talking about putting all of the media, ferners, and liberals in camps and incinerating them. Now that's the right wingingest Right wingers you're ever gonna see. They have the final solution to make America great again!

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Ol Olsoc]

The American Press has for a long time labored under the idea that all opinions are valid. This gives rise to some seriously whacked stuff. And while it might be great grand fun to listen to a flat earther yammer on about thier belief, some times the media thinks it might be more fair to include the flat earthers in a discussion about GPS. (note I never heard exactly that - its just a likely example.

And the really whacked thing is that the kooks still get their nickers in a wad, claiming they aren't getting a fair shake. Of course, what they really want is all other views suppressed but theirs.

At some point, the kooks need to be ignored.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Ol Olsoc]

Indeed, viewed from Europe,

For the last time, no one from the states cares what Europe thinks about their definitions of right and left wing.

for the last time, Neither Europeans or Americans care what gets Anonymous Cowards knickers in a knot, or panties in a wad.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Ol Olsoc]

Not entirely, People here hate FOX because they tend to be mindless cheerleaders of anything right wing and have a questionabe relationship with the truth. I hate it even though I tend to be fiscally conservative

I used to watch it for the lulz, but the people in the places where I eat breakfast all turned to different channels.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Anonymous Coward]

I guess you haven't been watching CNN for the past year -- the idea that their coverage is right-leaning is laughable.

I don't think it is right leaning. I watch it fairly often and it mostly seem to lean towards anything Donald Trump of late which might give them an effect of a right leaning bias, since it is important for them to keep the horse race appear very close so they keep their ratings up.

They tend to put up a shill on each side which makes the anchor look reasonable by comparison. Another thing I've noticed is the pattern of the right wing shills saying things like, "What Mr. Trump meant..." Beyond that they tend to only cover the Trump crap of the week, while repeating the entire litany of any alleged misdeeds of Clinton, but again, I don't think it is right/left bias. It is bias towards trying to improve ratings.

I really should turn it off. I don't mind an actual discussion of viewpoints, but I really get sick of all the lies by shills. It actually takes effort to catch most of them. The anchors don't both to get more than the big ones. It also might be nice if they occasionally showed a Clinton speech or two, rather than the breaking news about Trump farting.

So does anyone have a better news channel they would recommend? I may start listening to NPR again. Sure they have a leftish bias, but they also have a certain amount of actual content.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[drinkypoo]

Since when is CNN left?

So you mean the external renaming to 'Clinton News Network' was only because the letters matched?

So you mean the external renaming to 'Clinton News Network' was only because the letters matched?

Clinton is not a liberal. She is a neocon. Trump is not a conservative. He is just a sleazebag.

I never said she was a liberal, historically liberals believe in personal liberty... she does not. She's very much a illiberal progressive.

What? You just contradicted yourself there completely, smart guy. Care to rephrase your sentence until it makes sense? Here, this might help. Don't go alone, take one of these. Maybe then you'll have some idea what the words you're using mean.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[drinkypoo]

A liberal would not tolerate 'affirmative action' legislation and neocons would not tolerate her feminism.

Neoconservatism is orthogonal to feminism. It's about projection of military power around the globe, not about women's rights.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[unixisc]

I fully agree w/ this. While Greta has moved from Left to Center over her time @ FNC, Bill O'Reilly has been very Centrist, Sean Hannity somewhere on Right of Center. Only classic Right Wing have been Krauthammer and Steve Hayes. Megyn, like someone pointed out above, has been a Never Trumper since the beginning - in fact, his tirades against her were fully justified. And some really quality Right Wing people, like Andrea Tanteros, Jedediah Bila and Joanne Nosuchinsky have recently left.

Not just that, Juan Williams invariably gets the last word on The Five, and we also have to put up w/ Geraldo's outdated views on immigrants - that they're all good and hunky dory. Immigrants who come today are nothing like what they were in the 70s & 80s. They came to assimilate, whereas today's immigrants bring pieces of their home countries w/ them. Right now, you just have people wanting Spanish in addition to English, but wait until we have schools that teach in Mandarin, Arabic, Farsi, Vietnamese, Hindi, et al.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[unixisc]

Oh, like PBS, NBC, ABC, et al ain't propaganda outlets for the Left? Yeah, all news outlets are as pure as the wind driven snow whenever they lean Leftist, but FNC is the corrupt one for leaning more to the right

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Coren22]

Bernie Sanders was pretty left, though not as left as Europe, he was left for the US.

Re:"topic of discussion for many across the world"

[Coren22]

"narcissistic sociopath"

I was wondering who you were talking about until I got to "he". You know, Hillary isn't a man right?

Those responsible

[alvinrod]

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

Re:Those responsible

[Tablizer]

Management has now been replaced by robots who replace people with robots.

Re:Those responsible

[FatdogHaiku]

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

Sure, but then they end up hiring "RALPH" THE WONDER LLAMA...

Re:Those responsible

[93 Escort Wagon]

A moose once bit my sister...

Not the only one

[Anonymous Coward]

I saw a fake story about Shepard Smith quitting yesterday as well.

In Soviet Russia...

[Anonymous Coward]

The fake news articles denounce YOU!

Except that also seems to be going on quite a bit these days outside Soviet Russia too.

This is funny

[GameboyRMH]

It's hilarious that the persistent arch-enemy of the supposed strongman Trump is a mainstream "news" anchor at a TV channel allied to his party. And a feminine-looking woman too! You'd think it would make every neckbearded alt-right head explode.

And what dastardly tactic has she used to thwart and frustrate the glorious-leader-to-be? Not asking him soft enough questions.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Those NAMBLA Navigators are quick to anger when a woman is bleeding from somewhere. Most Trump supporters aren't old enough to have dated a menstruating woman.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

>It's hilarious that the persistent arch-enemy of the supposed strongman Trump is a mainstream "news" anchor at a TV channel allied to his party.

Kelly is a vacuous blond bimbo. She's hardly an arch-enemy to anyone. Trump's arch-enemy is largely himself.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Most Trump supporters are older white males who are or have been married.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Trump is the only candidate who has said that he will not sign TPP or TTIP in no uncertain terms.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Trump is the only candidate who has said that he will not sign TPP or TTIP in no uncertain terms.

Yeah, the man who's brand of clothing is completely outsourced to Asia isn't going to sign that. I'll bet you brought is water and took courses from Trump-U as well.

And remember Trump-U isn't just a noun, it's also a verb.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Most Trump supporters are racist and unintelligent.

I are not racist!

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Stop doing that! Don't you know there's a record to correct, stop making things so hard on us!

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

There is nothing sadder than an ignorant racist trying to deflect criticism by unloading some kind of bigoted remark.

Re:This is funny

[AmiMoJo]

His early tactic against Hilary was to suggest that women were incompetent in top jobs, because they go on the rag every month and shit like that. Imply they got the job because of their looks (likely a factor with Kelly, it being Fox) and keep pushing the idea that only a man can be relied on for these things.

He has toned it down a bit now and focused more on the crooked angle, but I think it's going to keep haunting him through the campaign and make it very hard to pick up enough female voters to win.

Re:This is funny

[Bartles]

Explain to me how "most trump supporters are racist and unintelligent" is not bigoted.

Re:This is funny

[Anonymous Coward]

Most Hillary supporters are racist and unintelligent.

Re:This is funny

[Areyoukiddingme]

His early tactic against Hilary was to suggest that women were incompetent in top jobs, because they go on the rag every month and shit like that.

I'm wondering if he knows Hillary Clinton is 68 years old. And if he knows what happens to a woman in her late 40s.

Re:This is funny

[Z80a]

Given this election is basically a dispute between being shot in the head several times with a .38, or getting shot with a GAU-1, some people just want to go in a blaze of glory.

Re:This is funny

[unixisc]

All women who support Hilary are hypocrites who don't care for the record. That her husband raped Juanita Broderick, even while she says that every woman who alleges rape should be believed. Now, it comes out that several years ago, she helped get a 41 year old pedophile walk or get a limited sentence, totally ravaging the life of his 12 year old victim. And we are all supposed to take seriously their rants about Stephen Bannon, alt.right and the columns in Breitbart?

I wasn't a misogynist before, but I am tending that way now, and will be if she gets elected!!!

Re:This is funny

[cellocgw]

Easy: because it's true. Just because they don't admit to being racist doesn't mean they aren't racist.

Re:This is funny

[shutdown -p now]

Trump was also the only candidate who has said that he will deport all the illegals, in no uncertain terms, many times.

Right until he said that he won't.

Irony

[nwaack]

My comment about this article is posted on a page where "What Xena Warrior Princess Looks Like Now Is Crazy" at the bottom.

Re:Irony

[omnichad]

But they're paying for that placement. It's different. /sarcasm

um, yeah obvious.

[Anonymous Coward]

It's just an unsubstantiated blog post with a provocative and misleading "Breaking:" title that got picked up as a "reported" article by news aggregate sites.

Origin:http://conservative101.com/breaking-fox-news-exposes-traitor-megyn-kelly-kicks-her-out-for-backing-hillary/

But this kind of shit happens so much with other mainstream sites, I supposed the reason it got any notoriety was because of the the recent story about Facebook Trending Topics service going all algorithm. A human probably curating trending topics probably would have caught this.

Re:um, yeah obvious.

[youngone]

Wow conservative101.com is full on weirdo red-hot mess. I liked this story about Colin Kaepernick

It even gets in some dog whistle racism while it's at it.

Quote: was brought up by two white parents who adopted him and raised him out of the goodness of their own hearts.

Conservating101

[__aaclcg7560]

The Republican Party in California has more in common with the endangered spotted owl than 1/10th of US population. One is toilet paper, the other is reality.

Re:Conservating101

[omnichad]

I've seen the same thing on both sides this year.

Re:Conservating101

[DidgetMaster]

I guess the GOP and the Democrat party DO have something in common!

Conservating101

[Anonymous Coward]

make shit up or outright lie. Eventually it becomes the accepted truth among the believers.

Wait...

[Anonymous Coward]

You're saying Facebook users fall on the left hand side of the bell-curve?

Whooda Thunk It?

Re:Wait...

[Anonymous Coward]

Only because your old drunk alt-right uncle hasn't figured out how to facebook yet.

So Much for History

[Anonymous Coward]

Did anyone else have a moment, mine was back in the mid-90s, when you realized "news", and therefor history, would soon become 100% zeros and ones, and therefor, 100% revisable?

Fake news stories are a sign of the future.

Megyn Kelly isn't fake!

[Bob_Who]

Even if she spells her name like a fake.

Re:Megyn Kelly isn't fake!

[93 Escort Wagon]

Even if she spells her nyme like a fyke.

FTFY

Re:Megyn Kelly isn't fake!

[Bob_Who]

Hy hy hy!

Whatever else needs to be said,

[Black Parrot]

You've got to admit that the internet makes election years way less stuffy than they used to be.

Re:Whatever else needs to be said,

[ADRA]

You mean factless out-group bashing without concrete proof or sources of authenticity? Sure it is. That's why you and everyone like you are the problem. If we don't have to deal with facts anymore, you're voting for the most entertaining monkey. Dance, monkey dance! ...

Re:Whatever else needs to be said,

[Rakarra]

You've got to admit that the internet makes election years way less stuffy than they used to be.

In other words, it just becomes shit-flinging without the substantive debate? Well it sucks that we're interested more in "entertainment" from our election cycles than actually seriously trying to find the best person to run the country.

Re:Whatever else needs to be said,

[Radiophobic]

I miss the days when politics were stuffy! All of a sudden every lunatic with a beer can collection in their front yard has an opinion and the politicians are trying to appeal to those folks instead of the practical people who followed politics pre-internet. This election has become a circus act because the people who want to see freaks have started lining up to pay for admission.

Where's all the rightwing outrage?

[norweeg]

Facebook curated false information about one of your own out of trending topics so it doesn't spread. Surely this indicative of some sort of conspiracy against you! /sarcasm

Re:Where's all the rightwing outrage?

[epyT-R]

Kinda like when the NYT publishes one of their passive-aggressive smears.. It's expected, so why get uptight about it? Facebook has made their political culture quite clear, long before this happened.

Re:Considering her choice in guests

[laie_techie]

Like ultra liberal disgusting slob Michael Moore or Dances with rattlesnakes religious nevertrumper Glen Beck....

Glenn Beck is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (more commonly called Mormons by outsiders). We do not dance with rattlesnakes or anything like it. Calling him a "nevertrumper" is actually a compliment; I'm tired of politicos saying how bad a candidate is during the primaries, then once the other candidate gets the party's nomination everyone falls in line about how great the candidate is.

I'm genuinely surprised the article was fake.

I saw the headline in Facebook, but didn't read the article. I often look to Snopes when I see an overly outrageous headline or story.

Re:Considering her choice in guests

[unixisc]

Michael Moore's appearance there certainly justifies your surprise, as does her fawning over Khizr Khan the day after the DNC ended. But Glenn Beck is someone who fits right in w/ her, and one thing they have in common - their animosity towards Trump. But FNC does try to live upto its 'Fair & Balanced' branding - something illustrated by the likes of Juan Williams and Geraldo. So even if she was exposed as a Liberal, she'd just be one more of their Liberal members, like those 2 as well as Shepard Smith

Mormon: one too many Ms?

[Anonymous Coward]

I can't put my finger on it, but I can't help feeling weird about a message delivered by the angel Moroni that led to the creation of the Mormons.

Re:Mormon: one too many Ms?

[laie_techie]

I can't put my finger on it, but I can't help feeling weird about a message delivered by the angel Moroni that led to the creation of the Mormons.

Sorry, but you're decades late with the Mormon / moron jokes. The nickname "Mormon" was applied to us by enemies because we accept the Book of Mormon (subtitled Another Testament of Jesus Christ) as Scripture in addition to the Bible. The Book of Mormon is so-named because a prophet named Mormon compiled the writings of previous prophets and historians into a single volume. Go ahead and question theology if you wish, but further ad hominems will be ignored.

Re:Considering her choice in guests

[Anonymous Coward]

I ragged on Beck not only to be fair since I made a Moore comment, but because he's such a religious/conspiracy nut that even FNC had to drop him from syndication. Basically they're both opposite extremes of the spectrum with the three of them sharing one thing in common. They're nevertrumpers.

Re:Mormon: one too many Ms?

[drinkypoo]

Go ahead and question theology if you wish, but further ad hominems will be ignored.

So will your hilarious beliefs. How is magic underwear different from dancing with snakes? Less snake bites, I guess, but no less bullshit.

And the point is..

[Anonymous Coward]

That Facebook is two-faced. Two left faces. And is not above spreading lies until whacked for it. Just another example because they keep trying to say they are not biased lying cheaters, and we're not buying that.

The takeaway from this will unfortunatley be lost

[uniquegeek]

This was actually an unintended PSA about not getting your "news" from Facebook. But that will quickly be forgotten.

Re:Mormon: one too many Ms?

[Anonymous Coward]

A bunch of gullible rubes believing what some jack-off "read" off of some sketchy tablets. Same bunch of gullible rubes still believing it when, after a skeptic asks him to reread them presuming it would result in a verbatim repetition that could potentially suggest some truth, he says he's "not allowed to" and will "read" from a new set of tablets that say generally the same thing but not verbatim. You've had over 150 years to decode that scam and you still haven't. How do you look yourself in the mirror and NOT see an absolute moron?

Being a god of your own fucking planet if you're good enough on this one. Fucking PLEASE. Pious virtue, my ass. That kind of goal is pure ME ME ME on an even more insane level than 72 virgins or endless happiness in the clouds watching your descendants masturbate.

It was a crazy science fiction cult then and it's a crazy science fiction cult now, just like scientology. I don't know or care what your thoughts are on those nutjobs but given the seemingly universal loathing of them by everyone, I'd assume you think they're wackos too. The thing is, the only difference between them and you is time. In 150 years, if people still haven't smartened the fuck up, scientology will be viewed as just as valid as your bullshit. Pretty fucking sorry company. Think about that next time you have your little "I'm gonna be a god if I always smile and act friendly" orgasm.

It's not ad hominem when it's your STORY I'm ripping apart, but that doesn't stop me from calling you a fucking imbecile for living in the land of make believe as an adult who should otherwise know better, so feel free to retreat to the safe space in which your story isn't bullshit and you still look smart and cool to a bunch of other sorry excuses for sapiens, for whatever that's worth. Pffft. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I only wish, as a non-smoker, that I had the mindfulness to keep a lighter on me anyway so I could ignite it and extend it forward when one of you people tries to hand me a flyer. Nobody wants your shit. If we aren't walking into your buildings and asking for consultations, take a hint.

CAPTCHA: brained
(or nah)

Re: "topic of discussion for many across the world

[Anonymous Coward]

CNN is left of unixisc. It's all a matter of perspective.

Re: Mormon: one too many Ms?

[bestweasel]

When you're told something is true by your parents from the first day you can comprehend, when all your friends, relatives and teachers believe the same thing and it's repeated over and over whilst you're growing up, to be told that this thing is not true can be so psychologically damaging that the mind will go to any lengths, however absurd, to retain that belief.

It's very difficult to undo childhood conditioning, no matter which God or flag you were told to worship.

This is why outsiders and new ideas are so dangerous.

Re: "topic of discussion for many across the world

[unixisc]

They are a bit to the right of the others - ABC, PBS, CBS and NBC - but other than that, they have been reliably Left Wing. Yeah, they do have occasional hires like Corey Lewandowski which make them look like they may be pro-Trump, but the major hosts remain Leftist.

Re:Mormon: one too many Ms?

[laie_techie]

Go ahead and question theology if you wish, but further ad hominems will be ignored.

So will your hilarious beliefs. How is magic underwear different from dancing with snakes? Less snake bites, I guess, but no less bullshit.

Sorry, but we don't use magic underwear; we don't ascribe any magical properties to our temple garments. They serve as a physical reminder of the covenants we have made; the garments work perfectly for that. BTW, what does it say of you if you are obsessed with underwear others use?

Facebook is shit

[Anonymous Coward]

A celebration of mediocrity; a circle jerk of the frivolous and vapid. Facebook how about you add a fucking dislike button and perhaps shit stories like this would not rise to the top as frequently.

Re:Mormon: one too many Ms?

[Anonymous Coward]

Whats with the attacks? Mormons might be a little bit out there but I enjoy their company more then some other religious groups.

Re:Mormon: one too many Ms?

[laie_techie]

A bunch of gullible rubes believing what some jack-off "read" off of some sketchy tablets. Same bunch of gullible rubes still believing it when, after a skeptic asks him to reread them presuming it would result in a verbatim repetition that could potentially suggest some truth, he says he's "not allowed to" and will "read" from a new set of tablets that say generally the same thing but not verbatim. You've had over 150 years to decode that scam and you still haven't. How do you look yourself in the mirror and NOT see an absolute moron?

Ad hominems galore! Are you capable of debating without resorting to name calling?

I believe you are referring to the lost 116 pages known as the Book of Lehi? As Joseph dictated the translation, Oliver Cowdery only made a single copy. Oliver convinced Joseph to let him show his wife and others. Those pages got stolen, so no known unaltered edition was in neutral hands. If Joseph wree to retranslate the same section of plates, it would have been a trap. If he produced a verbattim copy, the enemies of the Church would have altered Oliver's first copy. If Joseph made a single change (such as using a synonym), his enemies would have counted it as proof that he wasn't a prophet. Since Moroni collected the plates in 1830 we cannot attempt a new translation from the original source. Later editions standardized spelling, punctuation, and grammar (spelling and grammar were in flux in the 1800s, and Joseph didn't dictate punctuation).

Nephi was the son of Lehi, so he saw many of the same things as his father.

It's the same trap the Jews attempted on Jesus when a woman was caught in the very act of adultery. If Jesus said to stone the woman, as dictated by Jewish law, he would have been in violation of Roman law. If Jesus said to let the woman be, he would be in violation of Jewish law.

Being a god of your own fucking planet if you're good enough on this one. Fucking PLEASE. Pious virtue, my ass. That kind of goal is pure ME ME ME on an even more insane level than 72 virgins or endless happiness in the clouds watching your descendants masturbate.

Oh, I see you also have to resort to copious amounts of gratuitous profanity. Profanity generally shows a limited vocabulary.

Don't Jews and mainstream Christianity also call God with the title "Father"? Jesus addressed the Almighty with "Our Father, which art in heaven". Don't children have capability of becoming like their parents? Why call out Mormonism for believing what the Old Testament prophets, Jesus, and the apostles taught? If anything, it makes us more Christian than mainstream Christianity.

It was a crazy science fiction cult then and it's a crazy science fiction cult now, just like scientology. I don't know or care what your thoughts are on those nutjobs but given the seemingly universal loathing of them by everyone, I'd assume you think they're wackos too. The thing is, the only difference between them and you is time. In 150 years, if people still haven't smartened the fuck up, scientology will be viewed as just as valid as your bullshit. Pretty fucking sorry company. Think about that next time you have your little "I'm gonna be a god if I always smile and act friendly" orgasm.

Mormonism has produced some good science fiction writers (Orson Scott Card being the most famous), but I don't see Mormonism per se as science fiction anything. The word cult has lost all meaning except an organization with whose doctrine / ideology I disagree. If you're so blind as to not see the differences between Mormonism and Scientology you are beyond my help. Research is validating things in the Book of Mormon which would not have been known to Joseph Smith in 1830. If you are interested in the truth instead of a shouting match we can take this offline.

It's not ad hominem when it's your STORY I'm ripping apart, but that doesn't stop me from calling you a fucking imbecile for living in

Fake Article?

[ramriot]

So the article did exist, but the claim it made was not substantiated by evidence. This leaves us with two alternatives:-

a) The article is false OR
b) Reality is at fault.

Now don't completely exclude b), because your experience of reality is only available to you via what information you can collect. If the information is incomplete then your view of reality will be at fault.

That said, pretty well everything said by all sides on this 'political' debate is a pile of fetid dingo's kidneys.

Re: Mormon: one too many Ms?

[laie_techie]

When you're told something is true by your parents from the first day you can comprehend, when all your friends, relatives and teachers believe the same thing and it's repeated over and over whilst you're growing up, to be told that this thing is not true can be so psychologically damaging that the mind will go to any lengths, however absurd, to retain that belief.

But I don't live in a bubble. My high school was only 25% LDS; the city where I currently live is 40% LDS; the office where I work is about 30% LDS; 75% of the cousins I know on my side of the family are LDS; only half of my wife's family is LDS (and she converted while a teenager). I am LDS, not FLDS.

It's very difficult to undo childhood conditioning, no matter which God or flag you were told to worship.

This is why outsiders and new ideas are so dangerous.

Outsiders dangerous? Is that why we have approximately 80k full-time proselytizing missionaries? President Hinkley told new converts and people considering joining the Church to bring all their knowledge and good attributes with them. The LDS Church does not have a monopoly on good works, and truths can be found in just about every religious organization. New ideas aren't considered dangerous. We sustain the President of the Church, his counselors, and the Twelve as Prophets, Seers, and Revelators. Our General Authorities address us in world-wide conferences twice a year. Gordon B. Hinkley had new ideas about a perpetual education fund, and for smaller temples. We fully embrace technology, including putting our scriptures and teaching material online for anyone to access. BYU is undergoing a review on how to protect victims of sexual assault (which is rare on campus) while still upholding the honor code. The LDS Church now accepts tithing online (using checking accounts). Apostles have had doctorate degrees in hard sciences (geology, biology, chemistry). One Apostle was a heart surgeon. The LDS Church opened the Priesthood to all worthy males in 1978.

Re: Mormon: one too many Ms?

[bestweasel]

I'm sorry that this appeared to be a reply to (and maybe an attack on) you personally or your religion specifically; I meant it as a more general point about how we all take things on trust because we have to. The younger we are, the more easily we are influenced and the more deeply we are conditioned; these influences may become deeply-held beliefs which have no testable basis in fact or reality and can remain untouched by exposure to opposing evidence, no matter how carefully explained, proven and presented. Nothing you've said has refuted that. Members of the Church of LDS have adapted to the modern world and rationality and reason in many ways (and promote ideas of community and charity which are lost to many outsiders) but they still retain their core belief in the supernatural and the truths their 19th century founders revealed to them, as do you. I'm guessing that you believe what you do because you grew up around Salt Lake City and your parents taught you their beliefs; your truth is very regional.

When are the worthy females going to get a go?

Re: Mormon: one too many Ms?

[laie_techie]

I'm sorry that this appeared to be a reply to (and maybe an attack on) you personally or your religion specifically; I meant it as a more general point about how we all take things on trust because we have to. The younger we are, the more easily we are influenced and the more deeply we are conditioned; these influences may become deeply-held beliefs which have no testable basis in fact or reality and can remain untouched by exposure to opposing evidence, no matter how carefully explained, proven and presented. Nothing you've said has refuted that. Members of the Church of LDS have adapted to the modern world and rationality and reason in many ways (and promote ideas of community and charity which are lost to many outsiders) but they still retain their core belief in the supernatural and the truths their 19th century founders revealed to them, as do you. I'm guessing that you believe what you do because you grew up around Salt Lake City and your parents taught you their beliefs; your truth is very regional.

When are the worthy females going to get a go?

Religious organizations face a tough situation: they cannot disavow what previous leaders have said without declaring those leaders mistaken (or worse), but they must adjust for the modern world. Mormonism addresses this by sustaining the President of the Church as a Prophet who is able to receive revelation for the whole world (he is considered God's mouthpiece and all people are God's children) and to change Church doctrine and policies. Mormonism got its beginning in 1820 through Joseph's First Vision, though he didn't publish the Book of Mormon and formally establish the Church of Christ until 1830 (he later renamed it to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to distinguish it from unrelated Church of Christ organizations). In his lifetime he saw membership grow from 6 men (as required by New York law) to thousands of believers. During the rapid growth period new quorums were created (such as the Seventy, dividing members into "wards" with bishops, etc) and doctrines were established (temple ceremonies, tithing vs Law of Consecration, etc). Today we have seven quorums of Seventy to support millions of members, and got rid of the Quorum of the Fifty. For over a hundred years we've been commanded to strengthen the stakes of Zion where we live instead of congregating to Church Headquarters. Things do change, but at a much slower pace because we've been around for so long.

LDS culture is regional, but doctrine is universal. The Prophet, Apostles, and other General Authorities travel the world to make sure we have unity in faith. The same thing is taught in Hawaii, Utah, California, Brazil, England, and everywhere else in the world. We may wear different clothing (lavalava is common in Hawaii, but virtually unseen in Utah). We may have different customs (in Hawaii, 90% of talks in Hawaii start with Aloha with the congregation replying in kind). In Utah people are usually baptized in the chapel while many baptisms in Hawaii are performed at the beach. Utahns eat a ton of Jell-O (I don't know if this is limited to Utah Mormons), whereas members of the Church in Hawaii eat long rice and huli-huli chicken at pot luck dinners.

You mention that faith isn't testable. Read Hebrews chapter 11 for a good discourse on faith. It is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. You don't hear God crying out in a loud voice that this Church or that has the truth. What I consider evidence (eg. my experiences) might not be sufficient for you. Everyone must find their own path. Since faith isn't scientifically testable, we must respect the beliefs of others.

You are somewhat wrong with regards to my background. My chosen handle and posts on /. should indicate I grew up in Hawaii, where only 4% of the population is LDS. My ancestors joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the 1830s, 1840s, and 1850s. One ancestor was an original member of the Twelve Apos