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Google's DeepMind To Apply AI In Head and Neck Cancer Treatments (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Stack: Google's DeepMind team has partnered with British hospital doctors on an oral cancer program hoping to cut planning times for radiotherapy treatments. After recently announcing a partnership with London's Moorfields Eye Hospital to use its machine learning technologies to speed up the diagnoses of eye conditions, DeepMind has confirmed a new initiative at the University College London Hospitals (UCLH) NHS Foundation Trust. According to Google's artificial intelligence unit, cancer treatments including radiotherapy involve complicated design and planning, especially when they involve the head and neck. Treatments need to obliterate cancerous cells while avoiding any healthy surrounding cells, nerves, and organs. UCLH plans to work with DeepMind to explore whether machine learning can reduce planning time for these treatments, particularly for the image segmentation process which involves clinicians taking CT and MRI scans to build a detailed map of the areas to be treated. The report adds: "DeepMind algorithms will be set to work on an anonymized collection of 700 radiology scans from former oral cancer patients, learning from the historical data in order to draw its own conclusions without human support."

17 comments

  1. google copy and paste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is follwing IBM Watson healthcare unit that started like 2 or 3 years ago. They are late in the game. Like they did with google home, a copy of amazon echo. Google copy and paste.

    1. Re:google copy and paste by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      Google was also late in the search engines game...

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  2. Hold Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they are saying Doctors are fallible and don't know what they are doing? Therefore Dr. Google is going to be diagnosing head and neck cancer from now on. I thought MD's were the authority on all things in the universe.

    1. Re: Hold Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Whats the difference between God and a doctor? God knows that he's not a doctor.

    2. Re: Hold Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computer based systems have been able to beat humans on certain classes of diagnosis for some time, but they are not without false positives or false negatives and have generally been single task (e.g. abnormality detection in scans). However, the results still need humans in the chain to interpret the evidence, check for GIGO, and manage patient care. If anything doctors probably need keener skills to potentially spot issues that lie outside the core competencies of any computer system but may well gain experience more quickly in conjunction with them. An analogy might be that using static analysis tools on code allows you to find issues more quickly, but it can have false positives and negatives, and you need the skill to understand the results and learn from them rather than letting the tool totally rewrite your code without your intervention

  3. Small data set? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of the data sets used for facial detection and facial recognition number in the 10's or 100's of thousands of images. I wouldn't expect training on 700 scans to be particularly useful.

    1. Re:Small data set? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are seeing it wrong. Facial Recognition involves teasing out very slight differences in things are are supposed to be there, noses for instance.
      This is different, it is designed to tease out things that _aren't_ supposed to be there, Tumors or AVMs for instance. Internal human anatomy doesn't vary all that much.
      But they are applying this concept wrongly; Electron LINACs are so crude. This should be used in conjunction with Bragg Peak Radiotherapy- The use of Ions, not Photons. Bragg Peaks can be so small, maybe nuking a volume of only an elliptical Millimeter or so, that a fair amount of effort is made to consistently smoosh it out, often by hand over the course of a few seconds of Beam.
      Yet, it is painless; any sedatives are used to control involuntary movements, like tremors, due to Nuclear Fear.
      And it is scary. One gets strapped down in a Cave on a cold metal framework, and then everybody leaves, and the White lights go out, and the Purple ones come on, and then there is a bunch of mechanical whirrings and clickings, and then the Port, that patch of skin closest to the Accelerator Beamline gets a little warm, and that's it. You may see Eyeflashes; scattered Ions hitting the Optic Nerves. And you're done.
      But the subsequent Tests to confirm Treatment take a long time; hours, days, weeks. So just a little bit of Bragg Peak Treatment is done at a time
      Anything that speeds that up, that does it on the fly if possible, is all for the good.

    2. Re:Small data set? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With your Selective Uppercase and combination of Cold Science and Frankenstein Imagery I can't work out whether you're Mad or German. Assuming there is any Difference.

      captcha: generals. Jesus Christ it's Rommel get in the Tank!

    3. Re:Small data set? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "With your Selective Uppercase and combination of Cold Science and Frankenstein Imagery I can't work out whether you're Mad or German."
      I'm retired, so I'm keeping my options open.

      Actually, the capitalization was a Science thing, from the days that Computer Aided Indexing was just getting started. It's easier to grab out keywords. This has since fallen out of favor, like double-spacing after a sentence. BTW, this was all three decades back:
      http://www.aapm.org/meetings/amos2/pdf/26-4580-10159-978.pdf

  4. How much pay does an Artificial Intelligence earn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Charges for planning head and neck treatments are pretty substantial. Clicking a mouse and auto-contouring the different lymphatic regions and normal anatomy will earn that artificial intelligence a real revenue stream. Unless CMS decides that because the doctor didn't do it they will pay less.

  5. AI? by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    So we are calling algorithms "AI" now? Cool.

    1. Re:AI? by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      Just the creepy ones.

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    2. Re:AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the A stand for again ?

  6. Deep Deep Deep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Getting sick of how the word "Deep" is being plastered on everything. Like "Dark". It's become another bullshit marketing buzzword. Supposedly it means "a large system of neurons arranged in several hidden layers" but by that token you can call any program with nested subroutines "Deep". This is DEEP software bud. DEEP! I can't explain it to you because it's DEEP. Now break out the checkbook sucker, and I'll throw in this cyber cat brain too.

    1. Re:Deep Deep Deep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      You clearly know nothing about neural networks. Comparing deep neural networks to nested subroutines is like comparing Evolution to Intelligent Design.

      There's nothing magic about using DNN or Deep Convolution Neural Networks(what is most likely being discussed) for Image Segmentation. Facebook just released a bleeding edge tool for this called "DeepMask".

      What it totally 100% IS NOT is "AI". It's effectively an image processing technique. If I had to hire a company to do my image processing: DeepMind probably wouldn't be a bad one to go with. They're one of the 100 companies blazing significant new trails in that field.

    2. Re:Deep Deep Deep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be a dick. You know what I meant.

  7. Thoughts from therapy imaging by eegeerg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Radiation therapy physicist and image segmentation researcher here.

    Generally speaking, there has been no revolutionary advance in segmentation algorithm design in the past 5-10 years. Most modern algorithms combine atlas-based segmentation (ABS), with either shape modeling and/or machine learning. By itself, machine learning alone is generally agreed to be less accurate than ABS alone. The data set described in the article (700 patients) is certainly adequate for ABS and shape modeling. It may not be adequate for a pure learning algorithm, but I reserve final judgement on that.

    There are a few strange things in the article. (1) A standard head and neck case probably does not require four hours to create a manual segmentation. An hour is closer to correct. Therefore, they have already achieved their goal. (2) An important reason why a complex head and neck case takes longer is to define the therapy target. It is unlikely that simply adding processing power will make this easier. (3) I didn't see any description of what algorithm(s) they will evaluate, nor who will be in charge of algorithm development.