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OpenBSD 6.0 Released (sdtimes.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the new-and-improved dept.

LichtSpektren writes: Version 6.0 of the free operating system OpenBSD has just been released. This release features much improved hardware and armv7 support, a new tool called proot for building software ports in an isolated chroot environment, W^X that is now strictly enforced by default, and removal of official support for Linux emulation, usermount, and systrace. The release announcement can be read here. The release is OpenBSD's 40th release on CD-ROM and 41st release via FTP/HTTP.

94 comments

  1. The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The best feature is the lack of systemd.

    1. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Not particularly difficult, it's lacking in about everything else but security as well.

      There's actually a dipshit a few comments down complaining that the removal of fucking VAX support should be a news headline, that should tell you how utterly irrelevant an OpenBSD release is these days.

    2. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was already a news headline and announced months ago.

    3. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      the dipshit here is you. Linux system logins are secured over network by code written by OpenBSD team. OpenBSD runs on mobile devices to multi-CPU servers. Armv7, Sparc64, Base install of OpenBSD includes hardened web, proxy, mail, name, packet filter and private netwoking. And with pledge(2) OpenBSD is about ten years ahead of Linux in internal process security.

      Educate your ignorant self you fucking twat: https://www.openbsd.org/60.htm...

    4. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if you insist on getting one with systemd, their instructions are to Fill out the form, make the requisite 3 payments of 19.95, and watch for the DVD to arrive in your mailbox!

    5. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Sorry, what was that Theo? I couldn't quite make out your rambling, the sound of you sucking your own dick is drowning it out. The only way you'd know what a twat looked like is if you saw your faggot ass in the mirror.

      "Educate yourself" indeed, I have better things to do with my life than waste it on your faggot ass and your faggot ass, dead OS. U mad bro? U mad?

    6. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this modded funny??

      It's completely true.

    7. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Yes as true as you sucking dicks behind the Starbucks every other Wednesday.

    8. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, jam it up your bunger, Lennart.

    9. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lennart? Is that the name of your boyfriend?

    10. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the name of your Lord, who seem to enjoy publicly imagining others being engaged in homosexual sex?

    11. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow Lennart, I didn't know you like to defame gays (and straights as well) while claiming you yourself are political correct.

    12. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by mallyn · · Score: 2

      Folks: Can you please knock off the childish behavior? Dorothy Gove, the director of my childhood montessori school (and whos mentor is Mrs. Montessori herself) is spinning so fast in her grave that the neighbours of the cemetery are filing noise complaints with the Winchester, Massachusetts police :(

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      Most Respectfully Yours Mark Allyn Bellingham, Washington
    13. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story, brah. I hear Lennart is waiting for you to get home so you can blow him. You better get to it

    14. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      the dipshit here is you. Linux system logins are secured over network by code written by OpenBSD team. OpenBSD runs on mobile devices to multi-CPU servers. Armv7, Sparc64, Base install of OpenBSD includes hardened web, proxy, mail, name, packet filter and private netwoking. And with pledge(2) OpenBSD is about ten years ahead of Linux in internal process security.

      Educate your ignorant self you fucking twat: https://www.openbsd.org/60.htm...

      nope, the BSDs just shallow copy all of the Linux kernel code at this point. BSDs are actually attempting to copy the new Linux network code, since it's years ahead of the BSDs. That's why embedded systems designers, network appliance manufactures, etc. are dropping the BSDs for Linux every day.

      You're wrong.

    15. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it would suck less than you do, I'd be okay with it.

    16. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      BSDs are actually attempting to copy the new Linux network code, since it's years ahead of the BSDs.

      Hmm, that must be why Netflix and WhatsApp run FreeBSD (Netflix alone being responsible for over 30% of of US Internet traffic and able to saturate multiple 40GigE links from a single server with SSL) and why Facebook posted a job advert for a Linux kernel dev a few months ago with the goal of 'making the Linux network stack competitive with FreeBSD within 5 years'.

      --
      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
    17. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Maybe they should just get rid of their old FreeBSD-loving neckbeards who keep deliberately misconfiguring Linux, and get some people who know Linux instead?

      "Company so and so can't make Linux work" isn't an argument, it's a fallacy. Just FYI.

    18. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      The company in question has one of the top 10 largest Linux deployments in the world. If they can't make Linux work, then that doesn't reflect well on Linux.

      --
      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
    19. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why forward this message to me? It was evidently sent to you, poor sex slave boy :)

    20. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Folks: Can you please knock off the childish behavior?

      You've clearly never browsed the Linux Kernel Mailing List.

    21. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      The fact that a Montessori School grad can't spell "whose" reliably doesn't leave me a favourable impression of Montessori schools....

      --

      "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
    22. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sound of an anonymous coward getting his ass owned, so he has to huff and puff back in return to try and save face. Gay slurs as an added bonus. Pathetic.

    23. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Repeating a fallacy is still not an argument. You don't get out of argumentum ad verecundiam by emphasizing the authority part. You could have the biggest deployment of Linux in the world, and still not have a clue about what you're doing. It's simply not related.

    24. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, by far the best feature is that there is NO way to patch the system unless you build and distribute those patches yourself.

      What a great, great fucking way to keep an OS secure. Dont have an inbox way of updating the fucking thing when there is errata.

      AND BOY, there is errata. Every fucking release has mountains of errors flaws holes and bugs.

      https://www.openbsd.org/errata...

      All of this shit is fixed with source patches. Imagine this, Theo de Fucking Ass Rat, if your compiler has a bug and there is no way to get a patched compiler you have to go through an entire compiler bootstrap to be sure the patch for the compiler works.

      Fuck you Theo The Rat. Secure by default? My ass! You had two remote holes so far. Good job. If your software was in control of nuclear missles you would have killed everyone twice.

      Yes, shitstemD is a fucking stain. Yes Lennart Poettering is a god damned faggot father fucking piece of low life scum dog shit puke. Anyone who thinks ShitStemD isnt shit is a fucking asshole.

      But OpenBSD, fuck you for no binary patches, fuck you, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. You fucking dicklicking puke fucks should have offered a for-pay service to get binary patches but instead you just offer to give your users a prostate milking by putting your spiky puffer fish in our assholes and smashing it around.

    25. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Laughing at GP's fallacy while not having any evidence to support your claim that Facebook engineers *deliberately* misconfigured Linux? Excellent logic.

    26. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they should just get rid of their old FreeBSD-loving neckbeards who keep deliberately misconfiguring Linux, and get some people who know Linux instead?

      Unsubstantiated claim isn't an argument; perhaps not even a fallacy, just a flat out lie. Just FYI.

    27. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't a "claim". It was a sarcastically formulated example of an alternative explanation, with just as much, if not more credibility considering how various organizations tend to work, as the one used by the parent. But I guess sarcasm is above your horizon. Either way though, I don't have to "prove" anything other than that the posts I'm replying to is complete hogwash making grand claims the offered "argument" just simply doesn't support - which I have amply done.

      You, on the other hand, seem to have little to offer beyond simple argumentum ad hominem, which btw also isn't an argument, but a fallacy. Two attempts at making an argument, both well outside the court. Well played.

    28. Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't a "claim". It was a sarcastically formulated example of an alternative explanation, with just as much, if not more credibility considering how various organizations tend to work, as the one used by the parent. But I guess sarcasm is above your horizon. Either way though, I don't have to "prove" anything other than that the posts I'm replying to is complete hogwash making grand claims the offered "argument" just simply doesn't support - which I have amply done.

      Hint: in the face of your original claim (well, another unsubstantiated big claim to begin with?), your alternative explanation does not exhibit the credibility you think it has, but only reminds people of developers of a recently "popular" Linux software project, who keep claiming their badly reinvented features are innovations, and keep blaming users for the software's own flaws. Anyway, since you could still not write a single word to support your original claim, it is reasonable to think you just wanted to troll.

      You, on the other hand, seem to have little to offer beyond simple argumentum ad hominem, which btw also isn't an argument, but a fallacy.

      Which does not even conform to the definition of ad hominem by anyone but you? By the way, are you sure interlacing ad hominem in your own untenable claims doesn't make you look similar to the usual blood-sucking laywer image?

      Two attempts at making an argument, both well outside the court. Well played.

      With your own argument not even true to begin with. Nice double standards.

  2. The EU is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It is official; Surveys now confirm: The EU is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered EU when Apple CEO Tim Cook described the power grabbing supranational's investigation of its Irish tax affairs as "political bullshit". Coming close on the heels of the EU centralized tax identification number, their attempt to subsume the taxation rights of sovereign states is now clear for all to see. The EU is collapsing in complete disarray, as dead in the water as one of Merkel's drowned migrants.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict the EU's future. The writing is on the wall: The EU faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for the EU because the EU is dying. Things are looking very bad for the EU. As many of us are aware, the currency is becoming worthless. Negative interest rates are a tax on capital.

    Let's stick to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Germany has admitted over 1 million migrants, 80% are unfit for anything other than menial work. Integration, housing and welfare costs will out-weigh their net economic contribution. Sex attacks committed by migrants have reached pandemic proportions across the entire continent. Tourism numbers in France and Germany have dwindled due to terrorism. Greece is bankrupt and unable to escape the crushing debt burden imposed by its membership in the eurozone. Italian banks are insolvent. Deutsche Bank, one of Germany's largest banks has an estimated derivatives exposure equal to global GDP. The pension liabilities of the various EU institutions total over â63 billion.

    All major surveys show that the EU has lost the confidence of Europe's peoples. The EU is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If the EU is to survive at all it will be as a third world hell-hole. The EU continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save the EU from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, the EU is dead.

    Fact: The EU is dying

    1. Re:The EU is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fact: The EU is dying

      And THAT, my friend, is directly attibutable to the spread of systemd.

    2. Re: The EU is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This post is actuality quite good...

    3. Re:The EU is dying by jandersen · · Score: 1

      The EU is dying

      So is my wife, now that her hair begins to gray. What do they use, do you know?

  3. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Netcraft confirms YOU!

  4. Good Heavens! by SeattleLawGuy · · Score: 2

    OpenBSD? Good Heavens! It's still around?

    What have you used it for lately?

    --
    Real lawyers write in C++
    1. Re:Good Heavens! by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      I'm using it right now for a personal http/minecraft/cctv server. I like how minimal the install is. You get a base OS and then add the packages and customize the scripts as needed. I don't need 30 included text editors that are all terrible and 10,000 libraries that all need weekly security patches.

      --
      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    2. Re:Good Heavens! by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      servers in my domains, been doing so since 2001. Great general purpose OS for people that value stability and security and non-bloat

    3. Re:Good Heavens! by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

      Recently? Oh.... just installing it on paranoid schizophrenic's computers who call me ask asking for help because the "sole inventor of Linux and the Xbox" has hacked her router, computer, and any phone she buys in the store.

      --
      READY.
      PRINT ""+-0
    4. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If she becomes an OpenBSD Wizard because of her condition, the world will be a better place. It will be like Homeland but with computers and schizophrenia.

    5. Re: Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Importantly, is she cute? This matters...

    6. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Been using it since 2005 as my net gateway. Runs a bunch of services and provides net to the home. Never had a problem. Upgrading every release, twice a year like clockwork.

    7. Re:Good Heavens! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I'm using it right now for a personal http/minecraft/cctv server. I like how minimal the install is. You get a base OS and then add the packages and customize the scripts as needed. I don't need 30 included text editors that are all terrible and 10,000 libraries that all need weekly security patches.

      Which exactly what has 30 included text editors and 10,000 libraries that need weekly security patches.

      You suffer from lying for anything that doesn't have systemd. Y'all are starting to look pertty folish at this point.

      I'll be checking back for your list that you are going to provide for me. I'll even allow you to admit you were exaggerating, and cut down those 10 thousand libraries that need weekly updates to say, 5 thousand.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    8. Re:Good Heavens! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Been using it since 2005 as my net gateway. Runs a bunch of services and provides net to the home. Never had a problem. Upgrading every release, twice a year like clockwork.

      That's exactly how Grandma does it.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    9. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use it for a desktop.

      I also enjoy products based on the work of OpenBSD developers, such as my iPhone (pf, LibreSSL, w^x), Nexus 7 (libc), and tools used in my IT career (ssh, pf, sudo)

    10. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Been using it since 2005 as my net gateway. Runs a bunch of services and provides net to the home. Never had a problem. Upgrading every release, twice a year like clockwork.

      That's exactly how Grandma does it.

      As you get older you will learn that grandma was a lot smarter than you thought.

    11. Re:Good Heavens! by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      ^^^ This. Mod up. I burnt through my points already.

    12. Re: Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's your mom you perverted fuck.

    13. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Especially about bringing men over to pound her cooter.

    14. Re:Good Heavens! by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

      No, the end result would be an army consisting of clones of this guy who wrote his own schizophrenic OS that thinks God talks to him through it:

      http://www.templeos.org/

      --
      READY.
      PRINT ""+-0
    15. Re:Good Heavens! by thrig · · Score: 1

      Laptop 2 of 2, and also my desktop at work.

    16. Re:Good Heavens! by roman_mir · · Score: 0

      I use it every single day as a firewall, web server, load balancer for a number of different installations. Loving it.

      --
      You can't handle the truth.
    17. Re:Good Heavens! by Noryungi · · Score: 1

      OpenBSD? Good Heavens! It's still around?

      What have you used it for lately?

      Let's see: simple web server, firewall, laptop, firewall, router, secure storage, firewall, another laptop, home computer, router, firewall, security console, monitoring and I think I forgot a couple...

      OpenBSD is rock solid and a pleasure to use. Try it, you may like it.

      --
      The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
    18. Re:Good Heavens! by HammerToe · · Score: 1

      Yes, still very much around.

      I use it daily for most of my networking tasks. I use it running as a VM as a virtual router and IPSEC tunnel endpoint as it uses so few resources, so small and compact to install, and it's IPSEC configuration is so much easier than many others.

      e.g. https://www.quernus.co.uk/2015...

      -Matt

    19. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His name is Terry A Davis, you CIA nigger

    20. Re:Good Heavens! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      OpenBSD is rock solid and a pleasure to use. Try it, you may like it.

      It's also a pleasure to develop for. The man pages are a joy. You can just man dev files and get the kernel documentation. Fantastic!

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    21. Re:Good Heavens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does OpenBSD provide security updates for packages yet? Last time I used it (around 5.4) it did not, so you basically had to use only what was in base and rely on source patches if you wanted any. Stopped using it after they removed base support for running as a Kerberos KDC.

    22. Re: Good Heavens! by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

      Hi Terry, how's Terry going? I mean the other multiple Terrys

      --
      READY.
      PRINT ""+-0
  5. R.I.P. VAX by chrism238 · · Score: 4, Informative

    VAX support removed from OpenBSD. Now *that* should have been the headline!

    1. Re:R.I.P. VAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VAX support was removed in 5.9.

    2. Re:R.I.P. VAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So they're an anti-VAXer now?

  6. I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I for one haven't used OpenBSD, but I am happy that its still around and kicking. There are people who are using it every day, and I'm happy that they are getting a new version. I'm a longtime Linux user, and I know that you get a better ecosystem when you have more operating systems around. Its when not everyone does the same thing, that you get really neat stuff that you can't easily get in one system or another, and then its more work to implement somewhere else, but lets users and developers of other systems see what is possible. (Competition is good).

  7. This will be the last OpenBSD release on CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This will be the last OpenBSD release on CD, future releases will be internet only. Get 'em while they last....
    http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160901090415
    http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#60f

  8. Last on CDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This release is the last on the CDs. Make sure to order for the art experience! ;)

    1. Re: Last on CDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are going to look great topping the stack of AOL CDs I have!

  9. No song for this release? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course there is. Just open the release page.

    1. Re: No song for this release? by inode_buddha · · Score: 1

      The lumberjack song?

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      C|N>K
    2. Re: No song for this release? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that the song Theo sings when Tyrone's and Jamal's thick, black logs pummel his asshole?

  10. Linux binary compatibility, too by itomato · · Score: 1

    Remove Linux emulation support.

    1. Re:Linux binary compatibility, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exactly and no DANE support !

    2. Re:Linux binary compatibility, too by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      who used it? Most the major desktop and server software people use on Linux runs on OpenBSD.

    3. Re:Linux binary compatibility, too by chrism238 · · Score: 1

      You clearly have no sense of history or nostalgia!

    4. Re:Linux binary compatibility, too by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      That's a strange thing to say to a Unix sys admin who is older than Unix.

      I have nostalgia for useful things but this Linux compat thing was useless for years, the usual open source wares run without it and it wasn't maintained

    5. Re:Linux binary compatibility, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once used it for running Linux version of Opera to get some flash videos going. That was 17 years ago.

    6. Re:Linux binary compatibility, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DANE is useless thanks to 1024 bit keys

  11. Needs a theme song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should make a song about BSD to the tune of AC/DC's TNT

    1. Re:Needs a theme song by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      Get busy. Or else Axl will record it and take your monies.

    2. Re:Needs a theme song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bee-Ess-Dee!
      It's on your site
      Bee-Ess-Dee!
      It's based on 4.4-Lite
      Bee-Ess-Dee!
      It's a free download
      Bee-Ess-Dee!
      Watch the penguin esplode!

    3. Re:Needs a theme song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Watch the penguin esplode!

      "How did he know that was going to happen?"
      "It was an inspired guess!"

  12. Order the CDROM from Walnut Creek. by shess · · Score: 1

    I'm heading right over to Walnut Creek to order the CDROM! In two weeks I'll be installing this puppy...

    1. Re:Order the CDROM from Walnut Creek. by TimSSG · · Score: 1
      Nope, I do NOT believe there is a puppy BSD distro; but, I think there is a puppy Linux distro. Tim S.

      I'm heading right over to Walnut Creek to order the CDROM! In two weeks I'll be installing this puppy...

    2. Re:Order the CDROM from Walnut Creek. by Noryungi · · Score: 1

      Walnut Creek! Ha, you mixed up FreeBSD and OpenBSD (not to mention it has been closed for years, as far as I know).

      Use the OpenBSD Store instead.

      Since this is the last CD release, yes, I think it's worth ordering it. It's going on a special shelf with all the other CDs I have collected over the years...

      --
      The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
  13. Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two things caught my eye in the release notes:

    Security improvements:
    * Remove systrace.
    * Remove Linux emulation support.

    Theo has some cool slides about "Pledge" that replaced systrace. Slide 3 has this "gem":

    "Loudmouth Linus"
    http://www.openbsd.org/papers/...

    Note: NSFW

    That was a response to Linus saying "the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys."
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/l...

    Ouch.

    Wow, not even the alternative OS's are free from drama -- sad to see Linus (Linux) and Theo (OpenBSD) having to resort to name calling over "best practices" about security.

    Theo might be getting the last laugh though:

    http://www.openbsd.org/papers/...
    http://www.openbsd.org/papers/...

    Adopted some designs from others. We are know for PUSHING mitigations into mainstream use:

    - stack protector
    - W^X
    - ASLR
    - malloc with seatbelts
    - priv- separation & priv-drop

    I guess if name calling helps make the OS's better so be it. :-)

    1. Re:Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) by Lennie · · Score: 1

      What some people don't seem to understand is:

      - name calling happens in business to, all the time.

      - but OpenBSD and Linux development happens in the open

      --
      New things are always on the horizon
    2. Re:Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) by Noryungi · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, Linus and Theo are both very well known for trolling other people relentlessly... That's part of the fun of these two characters...

      Until you find yourself their target, that is.

      --
      The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
    3. Re:Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I think Linus said it quite well at Debcon '14 (IIRC), when an audience member said that he was extremely disappointed with Linus and others, because of the childish name-calling and bickering.

      Basically, Linus' stance is that he doesn't care if he offends people, he speaks his mind on issues, the way he sees them. It's much better to be direct and maybe a bit abrasive.

      From what I've read, Theo has pretty much the same philosophy. If he thinks something is bullshit, he'll damn well tell you, and not always in a nice way, if it's really shit.

      The really fun stuff happens when these two very similar personalities clash over disagreements.

      --
      Eat the rich.
    4. Re:Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, by far the best feature is that there is NO way to patch the system unless you build and distribute those patches yourself.

      What a great, great fucking way to keep an OS secure. Dont have an inbox way of updating the fucking thing when there is errata.

      AND BOY, there is errata. Every fucking release has mountains of errors flaws holes and bugs.

      https://www.openbsd.org/errata59.html

      All of this shit is fixed with source patches. Imagine this, Theo de Fucking Ass Rat, if your compiler has a bug and there is no way to get a patched compiler you have to go through an entire compiler bootstrap to be sure the patch for the compiler works.

      Fuck you Theo The Rat. Secure by default? My ass! You had two remote holes so far. Good job. If your software was in control of nuclear missles you would have killed everyone twice.

      Yes, shitstemD is a fucking stain. Yes Lennart Poettering is a god damned faggot father fucking piece of low life scum dog shit puke. Anyone who thinks ShitStemD isnt shit is a fucking asshole.

      But OpenBSD, fuck you for no binary patches, fuck you, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. You fucking dicklicking puke fucks should have offered a for-pay service to get binary patches but instead you just offer to give your users a prostate milking by putting your spiky puffer fish in our assholes and smashing it around.

    5. Re:Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Whoa, calm down.

      > Every fucking release has mountains of errors flaws holes and bugs.
      So does every OS. There is no "magic code" where there are zero bugs.

      > https://www.openbsd.org/errata...
      I count 25 issues. Doesn't look like a "mountain" to me.

      > If your software was in control of nuclear missles you would have killed everyone twice.
      And what's the bug count for the Linux kernel or GNU/Linux system?? Compared to OpenBSD, Linux is insecure out-of-the-box.

      > if your compiler has a bug and there is no way to get a patched compiler you have to go through an entire compiler bootstrap to be sure the patch for the compiler works.
      What this a rhetorical rant or do you have a link for more information? Thanks.

  14. templeOS is better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh jesus theres a fire
    systemd? aint nobody got time for that!

  15. User opinion missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of journalism is this? I wen through all the article, but the journalist could not be bothered to interview the OpenBSD user? Yet, he should not be too hard to find! Maybe he had gone offline for safety reasons?

  16. Netcraft confirms it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    BSD is dying.

  17. Re: Fuck you, fuck facebook, fuck zuckerberg. Fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hey, FUCK your FACEBOOK. I SPIT ON YOU. I SPIT on ZUCK THE FUCK. I SPIT ON FACEBOOK. Fuck you and fuck your spying lying cheating stealing government loving freedom killing using all the smart people to NOT CURE CANCER, NOT MAKE ENERGY CHEAP AND CLEAN SO YOU CAN SHOVE ADVERTISING IN MY FACE.

    I spit on your Facebook.

    No, by far the best feature is that there is NO way to patch the system unless you build and distribute those patches yourself.

    What a great, great fucking way to keep an OS secure. Dont have an inbox way of updating the fucking thing when there is errata.

    AND BOY, there is errata. Every fucking release has mountains of errors flaws holes and bugs.

    https://www.openbsd.org/errata59.html

    All of this shit is fixed with source patches. Imagine this, Theo de Fucking Ass Rat, if your compiler has a bug and there is no way to get a patched compiler you have to go through an entire compiler bootstrap to be sure the patch for the compiler works.

    Fuck you Theo The Rat. Secure by default? My ass! You had two remote holes so far. Good job. If your software was in control of nuclear missles you would have killed everyone twice.

    Yes, shitstemD is a fucking stain. Yes Lennart Poettering is a god damned faggot father fucking piece of low life scum dog shit puke. Anyone who thinks ShitStemD isnt shit is a fucking asshole.

    But OpenBSD, fuck you for no binary patches, fuck you, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. You fucking dicklicking puke fucks should have offered a for-pay service to get binary patches but instead you just offer to give your users a prostate milking by putting your spiky puffer fish in our assholes and smashing it around.

  18. Why are there so many trolls on this one? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    Leave OpenBSD alone!!

  19. Love it! by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    This release has some really improved support for hardware. WiFi and sound work much better. I get full stereo, dynamic sound now. WiFi is an order of magnitude faster. I've been an OpenBSD fan for some time now and I am excited to see it improve.

  20. Packaging system? by Walter+White · · Score: 1

    I should give this OpenBSD Linux a spin. Is this distro Debian or Redhat based? What packaging system does it use. Would that be DEBs or RPMs or did they choose something different?