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SanDisk's 1TB SD Card Aims To Solve Your Storage Problems (zdnet.com)

SanDisk has a new SD card which caught our attention today: a prototype card with a storage of 1TB of memory. The company says that 1TB card is necessary as we increasingly move to the world where more and more content in 4K and 8K become available. ZDNet adds: A few years ago it was inconceivable that anyone would want a 1TB storage card for their camera, but with the rise of 4K and 8K capture, as well as 360-degree video and VR, high-end professionals need all the storage they can get their hands on.

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  1. Imagine a beowulf cluster of these! by eggstasy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Old meme is old! XD

    1. Re:Imagine a beowulf cluster of these! by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2, Funny

      640K should be enough for anyone.

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    2. Re:Imagine a beowulf cluster of these! by RandomFactor · · Score: 1

      Except for the elitist jerks that pushed it 704k :-p

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    3. Re:Imagine a beowulf cluster of these! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me to get past 640k into himem was epic. Did I say something wrong?

  2. But we still have to put up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    USB-sticks with 8 gb space for $10, that reach a laughable 10 mb/s transfer speed, because anything else would be too good. Artificial limitations to control the market.

    1. Re:But we still have to put up with by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      Where are you posting from, and why are all the electronics advertisements there several years old?

    2. Re:But we still have to put up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why would limiting transfer speeds benefit anyone? Below a certain capacity it does not get any less expensive to manufacture flash..

    3. Re:But we still have to put up with by almitydave · · Score: 3, Informative

      USB-sticks with 8 gb space for $10, that reach a laughable 10 mb/s transfer speed, because anything else would be too good. Artificial limitations to control the market.

      Why would anybody at all use a fixed-memory USB stick when these exist?

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    4. Re: But we still have to put up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because she who shall be nameless loses microsd cards, but not usb stocks.

    5. Re:But we still have to put up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If USB/SD became too fast, people would use those instead of several times more expensive mechanical or SSD disks for their backups, because they are smaller and more practical. The speed limitations in the SD cards and USB sticks are entirely artificial.

    6. Re:But we still have to put up with by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Because SD card speeds vary by class. You aren't capable of taking full advantage of USB 3.0 with the majority of SD card classes available now.

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    7. Re:But we still have to put up with by Megol · · Score: 1

      They are (generally) bulkier than the equivalent USB stick. My level 2 backup is in a modified SD-card reader (removed casing, desoldered the micro-SD slot and added another full-size slot) and while it have performed nicely with two large no-name high-speed SDXC cards it still needs some care while handling. The cards can sometimes be disconnected, the lack of a (bulky) plastic case means there are less protection if the device would be dropped etc. And it is still pretty bulky.

    8. Re:But we still have to put up with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they fail much more frequently than USB sticks, especially for any application involving dust/dirt, moisture, vibration, or mobility.

    9. Re:But we still have to put up with by almitydave · · Score: 1

      They are (generally) bulkier than the equivalent USB stick.

      I linked to the large one because it supports full-size SD cards, and 1TB SDXC in the article is that form factor. But I have several readers for MicroSD that are barely bigger than the card itself. I've seen readers that fit mostly inside the USB port itself, so there's minimal protrusion.

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  3. inconceivable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  4. You know the saying by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Data will grow to fill the available storage space. My first HD had about 20 Megs of storage and was HUGE for its time, big enough to store everything, and then some. The 150 I had a while afterwards was "all you could ever need", and in the late 1990s the first Gigabyte HDs were sure to solve our storage problems.

    Guess what: None of them did. Not for long, at least. Data will grow.

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    1. Re:You know the saying by PRMan · · Score: 1

      The salesman convinced my mom against the 40MB drive. I struggled with space issues for a couple years because of that.

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    2. Re: You know the saying by chaboud · · Score: 1

      That is because it is so small she didn't even notice?

    3. Re:You know the saying by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure when you put it on a keyboard, it goes all the way from A to Z.

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    4. Re:You know the saying by Adriax · · Score: 1

      You over-estimate.
      Half way.

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    5. Re:You know the saying by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Joke's on you, he uses a Maltron layout!

    6. Re:You know the saying by rossdee · · Score: 1

      "a distinguished but elderly scientist " predicted that 985 years from now the disk drives will only need to be a PetaByte

      (thats in 3001)

    7. Re:You know the saying by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

      I wonder if anyone still remembers then why they are called disk drives. (if they are)

  5. What device can use 1Tb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All of our phones and digital cameras have a maximum SD card limit, most 64Gb.

    1. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1, Informative

      Uh, any computer with an SD slot, or USB to SD reader?

      It's not like there aren't already 128 & 256 GB SDs out there...

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    2. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      Any SDXC device?

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    3. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by NotAPK · · Score: 2
    4. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by Blaskowicz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Many phones have a posted maximum limit of 128GB or 200GB or 256GB, because there weren't any bigger SD card to test with.
      They may be expected to support up to the theoretical max of 2TB. The other common "hard" limit is 32GB.

      In fact, on socket 1366 motherboards (i7-920 and up) you have an official limit of 24GB RAM, but they can take up to 48GB RAM unofficially. Because 8GB sticks failed to not work, and Intel and motherboard manufacturers quietly decided to not update the docs.

    5. Re: What device can use 1Tb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of manufacturers claim their devices only support 64GB when in fact they work fine with existing 128GB and 200GB cards and they simply hadn't tested them. Not sure if 1TB will change that significantly or not.

    6. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      All of our phones and digital cameras have a maximum SD card limit, most 64Gb.

      SD is limited to 2 GB, SDHC to 32 GB, and SDXC to 2 TB. Aren't standards great?

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    7. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      All of our phones and digital cameras have a maximum SD card limit, most 64Gb.

      There are two known limits to SD cards.

      First is the standard old SD card - FAT16 formatted, up to 2GB. Then there's SDHC, FAT32 formatted, up to 32GB.

      For larger cards, there's SDXC, which uses exFAT and has a 2TB limit. 128GB cards are common today, and if you can take 64GB, you can take this card as your device is SDXC compatible.

      Some SD cards were 4GB using the SD method, which was a very creative way of interpreting the standard - as such, they may work in some devices but not all. If you're curious, the SD storage medium used a signed 32 bit integer for byte-level storage access. SDHC turned that integer into block-level access and that's why it was pretty trivial to add SDHC support.

    8. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by Mal-2 · · Score: 2

      Similarly, my board is specced even now to have a maximum capacity of 16GB (4x4), but in the list of supported memory configurations which still gets updated every few months (kudos to Asus for doing this for a 6 year old mobo), there are a fair number of 4x8 configurations shown. When I upgraded from 8 to 16, I did so by adding a single 8. This means at least one of the sticks will carry over when I eventually max it out at 32. (I see no need to replace a CPU-mobo combo that runs with the mid-tier Core i5 pack now,, five years and counting after purchase.)

      I have tested 128GB SD cards in devices that officially support only 32 -- Chromebooks, an Aspire One from 2009, various Merom laptops from circa late 2007. I haven't had a single failure yet. They often come up well short of the rated speed of the SD media, but they still work. My general impression is that SDHC support implies SDXC support, even if it doesn't say so on the tin.

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    9. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      False. Many cameras only support cards up to a given size for some stupid reason, even if they support SD_C and SD_C supports a higher capacity.

      I also have encountered cameras that only support SD cards up to 2 GB (even though 4 GB and 8 GB cards exist and work elsewhere), yet support SDHC up to 32 GB.

    10. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by sexconker · · Score: 2

      Except 4 GB and 8 GB SD cards were made (and they worked if the device wasn't retarded), and today most devices supporting SDXC won't support a 2 TB card. Typical upper limits are 64 GB, 128 GB, 200 GB, and 256 GB. A while back I was looking at a 200 GB card (before the 256 GB cards came out) but realized the intended device would only support 128. And yes, reviews confirmed that it wasn't just official support, it was actual support.

    11. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      You can format these things however you want. 4 GB SD cards were common before SDHC took off. I've even seen 8 GB cards, but I don't know how they worked internally. Probably arranged as 2 4 GB cards.

    12. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by mister_playboy · · Score: 2

      p>I also have encountered cameras that only support SD cards up to 2 GB (even though 4 GB and 8 GB cards exist and work elsewhere), yet support SDHC up to 32 GB.

      The original SD standard only covers capacities up to 2GB. 4GB SD cards are using 64kiB clusters on FAT16B as a out-of-spec hack.

      8GB cards based on the SD standard aren't possible AFAIK, can you provide a link to such a card?

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    13. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by steveg · · Score: 1

      My phone has a 128G card in it right now. My boss got a phone earlier this year that had a 200G card in it.

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    14. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      And people would prefer those to 256GB USB cards b'cos....?

    15. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Why don't they just format these cards to NTFS/HPFS/ext4 or whichever default file system there is of the systems using them?

    16. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Saying something shouldn't have a size limit because it supports SD_C is nonsense. The whole point of the _ is that the limitations of the format and the way the standard was to interact with it dictated the ultimate size limit. SDHC places an upper limit of 32GB, SDXC has an upper limit of 2TB, so there's no reason to believe any device currently listed as being compatible with 64GB cards can't also read the 2TB versions because the actual card data is the same.

      That can not be said for SDHC. The introduction of the SDHC format screwed with reserved registers on the CSD. Critically early implimentation stuffed up reading the size of SD cards specifically at 4GB since it was possible to do it via the old SDSC standard way of doing things. i.e. old space calculation without realising there was a new standard of card in use. For 4GB and 8GB devices to work you had to detect which card type it was and apply a different formula. For 16GB and 32GB cards this was a no-brainer as it could be done mathematically due to the previous calculation screwing up.

      TL;DR It was a problem with attempting to maintain backwards compatibility between SDSC and SDHC. This problem does not exist in SDXC.

    17. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      My first hard drive was 10 Megabytes.

      Can you figure it out?

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    18. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by drumlight · · Score: 1
      But now

      all porn that can be invented has been invented

      Charles H. Duell

    19. Re:What device can use 1Tb? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      So?

  6. 1 PB card coming soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And you will fillit with porn.

  7. Waiting for 16k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just be throwing away money settling for 4/8k.

    1. Re:Waiting for 16k by Adriax · · Score: 1

      Early adopter dupes. I'm waiting for 64k. That should be enough for anyone.

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    2. Re: Waiting for 16k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      640k*

      FTFY

  8. What about cost? by foxalopex · · Score: 1

    I actually use SD cards with a proper USB reader as a USB Stick because when the cards become too small to be useful, they get re-purposed for something else instead of going into the trash. Also you are slightly less likely to destroy the data on it if you manage to break the USB reader unlike a USB Stick which I've seen folks snap off which requires some decent soldering skills to fix. A 1TB card would be pretty cool.

    On the downside thou what's this crazy 1TB SD card going to cost? I can't imagine it's going to be cheap.

  9. Read/write speed? by dfm3 · · Score: 2

    Maybe I missed this, but do they give any indication of whether speeds will be on par with the other cards in their Extreme Pro line? Having dabbled quite a bit in digital photography, I've been in situations where even 90 MB/s is enough of a bottleneck that the camera can't store images as fast as it can capture them. In sports or wildlife photography, shooting 4-5 images a second in raw format, with file sizes being in the 20-30 MB range, fast write speeds are critical. I ended up ditching all of my older, slower SD cards because having to wait 2-3 seconds for each image to save (once the camera's buffer was full) is painful.

    1. Re:Read/write speed? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Would you be in the market even if it did? At 20-30MB per photo 500GB is 20,000 photos which seems rather extreme in one session. Even for recording video this seems like major overkill, at UHD/60fps @ 150 Mbps which is the most bandwidth hungry I've seen to date is 70GB/hour which should be enough to record a whole concert and then some. And most pro cameras come with dual SD slots and continuous recording so all you need to do is swap cards every once in a while to film 24x7, assuming you can't take a minute of your day to swap cards. And how often is that, really? I think the best use case I got for this is having a huge video library on your phone...

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    2. Re:Read/write speed? by Shinobi · · Score: 1

      Look into the data storage requirements of Lightfield cameras.

  10. MicroSD by DatbeDank · · Score: 1

    Call me when this is in micro sd form. What handheld devices use SD cards? Palm OS and Windows Mobile? Photographers will see this as a god send.

    1. Re:MicroSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Androids... Some of them not forced by Google to save everything to their "Cloud". Yay Samsung!

    2. Re:MicroSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't believe any of the latest (past 3 years or so) android devices use non microsd cards.

  11. I think it depend on.,, by mark-t · · Score: 1

    ... What one's storage problems are.

    For example if ones storage problems are that they have difficulty affording to buy all of the storage they need, the I think it is unlikely that this card would solve that problem.

  12. Well, at least we know there is an upper bound by El+Cubano · · Score: 0

    ...but with the rise of 4K and 8K capture, as well as 360-degree video and VR, high-end professionals need all the storage they can get their hands on.

    At least we know that there is an upper bound. I seem to recall some computer guy a few years ago saying that 640K should be enough for anyone. So, once we hit that, we're good!

  13. Eggs, basket by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    With my Olympus DSLR I shoot entirely in RAW, using 16G SD cards. Three of these held an entire recent cross-country hike.

    Just running a quick calculation, a 1T card would hold just about every picture I have ever shot and kept. But other than as a tertiary backup there is no circumstance in which I would actually want to do that, even for a single trip.

    1. Re:Eggs, basket by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      But it does mean that you can store your entire collection on a second (or third) SD card, which fits in the smallest of bank safe boxes.

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    2. Re:Eggs, basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the application would be movies.
      If you film at 25fps in 1080p and store as raw rgb you won't be able to fit a 2 hour wedding reception on this card.
      Considering that people are starting to expect 4k and 60fps there is still a need for larger cards.

    3. Re:Eggs, basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lumix GH4 1 hour 4K = 42 Gb
      http://cameradecision.com/review/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-FZ300

    4. Re:Eggs, basket by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Hence my comment about tertiary backup. This format would be ideal.

    5. Re:Eggs, basket by Shinobi · · Score: 1

      I've been considering buying a Lightfield camera. This card would be a good start for such a camera, assuming it has at least 100MiB/s transfer rate.

  14. 4K and 8K? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

    Reread the summary, please, and think about how much 4K and 8K video you shot during that cross-country hike.

    I remember when I could fit days of photos on a 256 megabyte card -- at a couple of hundred kilobytes per photo. Increasing resolution, raw capture, HDR, high-frame-rate video -- there are lots of reasons to want even more than a terabyte. There are quite a few things that I'd love to shoot in 4K at 1000fps or faster. The sensor and readout/storage technology to support that is too expensive right now, but it's only going to get cheaper.

    1. Re:4K and 8K? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even when I first got my 256MB card in 2001, it couldn't hold a single photo shoot worth of JPGs, let alone multiple days. I had to take a laptop with me to download during the shoot, up until I got some 512MB cards. Mind you, I was shooting with a 3MP DSLR.

      Canon's EOS 5D Mk IV can record 4k video at 500Mbps (62.5MB/s), which means it can fit about 4 hours of high quality 4k video on a 1TB card.

      Their high-end cine cameras can output RAW 4k at 4 times that rate at 24fps, so your huge card will only hold an hour of footage on your movie. Hell, you can shoot 4k RAW at 60fps (over 600MB/s) and only fit 25 minutes of video on that card.

      dom

  15. Excellent. Smithers! by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    Does this mean I can have a 2 TB M.2 2242 SSD now? (Effectively one of these on each side of the board.)

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  16. You keep using that word... by Maritz · · Score: 2

    A few years ago it was inconceivable that anyone would want a 1TB storage card

    Nope. Lemme just say now, I can conceive of a 1 PB storage card. Hell, gimme 1 EB. That'll keep you busy a while til you get to the next 'inconceivable'.

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    1. Re:You keep using that word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Lemme just say now, I can conceive of a 1 PB storage card. Hell, gimme 1 EB. That'll keep you busy a while til you get to the next 'inconceivable'.

      If you are going to dream, dream big. Skip EB, even skip ZB, and go for YB.

    2. Re:You keep using that word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Lemme just say now, I can conceive of a 1 PB storage card. Hell, gimme 1 EB. That'll keep you busy a while til you get to the next 'inconceivable'.

      If you are going to dream, dream big. Skip EB, even skip ZB, and go for YB.

      Yatta yatta yatta..

  17. Oblig: 640K ought to be enough for anybody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - Steve Jobs

    1. Re:Oblig: 640K ought to be enough for anybody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that was NOT Steve Jobs.

    2. Re:Oblig: 640K ought to be enough for anybody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - Richard Matthew Stallman

  18. Taking the internet for a spin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A semi truck full of these could contain the internet. All of it.*

    [while dumping truck out on someone's lawn] "Well, then you really should have specified you wanted internet service. It's not my fault you just called us and said you wanted the internet."

    * - Claims based on a wild guess, and not subject to scrutiny. I've already wasted 30 seconds researching this before deciding I much prefer the answer "yes".

  19. Oh wait by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    Not if you're a dumb ass Apple customer it won't.
    It needed to be said.

    1. Re:Oh wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And which android phone is it that has a SDHC slot? I've seen plenty of microSD equipped phones, but never a SD

    2. Re:Oh wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep shrieking, platform warrior. We appreciate your service in outing yourself as a retard.

  20. Fat 'lotta good this will do us. by NoSalt · · Score: 1

    With more and more smartphone manufacturers removing the SD card slot and making their batteries non-removable in the attempt to mimic Apple's iPhone, we are going to be at their mercy for storage space.

  21. I shoot photos constantly by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    God seems to send mostly tsunami and higher property taxes.

    And filling my 64gb card with photos is already more than I can do, or want to do -- that's a lot of risk in one tiny bit of "eventually it will fail" technology.

    But perhaps those who use their cameras for video will appreciate this, particularly when 4k is used. That crap uses memory like no still photo process EVAR.

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    1. Re:I shoot photos constantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      '...And filling my 64gb card with photos is already more than I can do, or want to do -- that's a lot of risk in one tiny bit of "eventually it will fail" technology.'

      Indeed, and when the fail part finally *did* happen to me with one of the 64GB cards, I just pulled the last backup I did of it off my 'live' backup disk (by habit, I back up all my 'active' cards weekly, or when there's been a major change to the content of any card that day), sure, I lost a couple of map updates, a couple of photos, but nothing of consequence.

      That's me, though, the average person doesn't think these things will fail. I've been in the horrible position of having to tell someone that they've lost all the pictures they'd taken of their newborn as the card in their Android phone was fubar, they hadn't even set up any form of syncing to Google/whoever (happily, in that particular case their relatives had taken photos of the infant)

      So far, I've had three 64GB microsd cards fail on me, two different manufacturers, two different devices. I still run a couple of 64GB cards (they contain nothing critical though, mostly music, so are effectively read-only), but have dropped back to 32GB in most of my other devices, especially the cameras, as I've used a number of 32GB cards in them over the years without complaint or failure.

      Call me again when the TB cards have been on the market for a while, say a year or so, I'd love one in my bridge camera (or whatever replaces it eventually).

  22. reliability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My only question is about reliability, MTBF. The bigger the support the bigger
    the chance that someone use it as a real "permanent storage" solution...

  23. SanDisk press release by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Link to the actual press release instead of the ZDnet whoring link.

  24. Software limit by DrYak · · Score: 2

    The other common "hard" limit is 32GB.

    That one is a software limitation.

    "SDHC" cards go up to 32GB
    "SDXC" start from 64GB

    There's no pinout nor SPI difference between the 2.
    The only difference is a logical one.

    SDHC cards come pre-formatted with FAT32.
    SDXC cards come pre-formatted with exFAT, and Microsoft has patented the shit out of it.
    So unless the company has paid money to Microsoft, they can't use exFAT and can only advertise "up to 32GB SDHC cards".

    But nothing prevents you to buy a 128GB SDXC and :
    - either install a FUSE-exFAT driver on your OS if supported.
    - or reformat the card with something supported by the OS (depending on the OS: FAT32, F2FS, Ext3/4, BTRFS, UDF, etc.)

    So 128/256/512/1024GB will work on most SDHC readers (i.e.: that support more than 4GB plain- SD), but the manufacturer can't advertise it because they lack the patents to the file format that is mandatory to advertise SDXC support.

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  25. I can't believe people still buy SanDisk by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    From cheap, to high end SanDisk cards, I have had 100% failure rate within 2 years. My dad has bought some SanDisk cards and I think 1 made it to 3 years. The only other card that I've had die so quickly was the 1 Duracell SD card I bought.

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    1. Re:I can't believe people still buy SanDisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From cheap, to high end SanDisk cards, I have had 100% failure rate within 2 years. My dad has bought some SanDisk cards and I think 1 made it to 3 years. The only other card that I've had die so quickly was the 1 Duracell SD card I bought.

      I have SanDisk cards that are between one and six years old and they are still going strong. I also have a SanDisk SSD in my main desktop that's about 3 now.

    2. Re:I can't believe people still buy SanDisk by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Precisely. Sandisk is amongst the most reliable, and also, they support just about every form factor that there ever was in the market - from CF to SD to xD to memory sticks to whatever. If you are looking for cost, go w/ Viking or Kingston or Transcend or other no name brands under Microcenter

  26. Difference is pureley logical by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    My general impression is that SDHC support implies SDXC support, even if it doesn't say so on the tin.

    Yup, unlike the plain old SD card format (which was limited to 1GB due to a small number of addressable blocks. Up to 4GB by using larger block), the protocol hasn't changed at all between SDHC and SDXC. The difference is purely software:
    SDHC are formatted with FAT32, whereas the SDXC standard mandates the use of exFAT. Which Microsoft has patented the shit out of.

    Any slot can access both SDHC and SDXC cards without any distinction.
    The limitation is at the *OS level*, and depends on whether the OS maker has paid the necessary patent tax to be able to access the logical content of the card: An SDXC slot is simply an SDHC slot on a device whose OS has a driver for exFAT in addition to FAT32, etc.

    You can use a SDXC card in any device advertised as SDHC-only only simply by :
    - installing an exFAT driver (e.g.: install FUSE-exFAT on Sailfish OS)
    - or reformatting the card with something that the OS supports out of the box. Some Android devices and photocamera will automatically give you the possibility to reformat the card. Other device (like Nintendo's New 3DS) will require you to manually reformat the card using a separate device before plugging in.

    The size will have absolutely NO influence. (Again, that's unlike plain SD card, which use an older protocol that can only reference a smaller number of blocsk)

    They often come up well short of the rated speed of the SD media, but they still work.

    And that has nothing to do with SDHC/SDXC format or the size.
    That's basically similar to all the various UDMA mode available on older IDE (parallel ATA), 16bit PC-Card and Compact Flash cards.
    There are several different speed protocols available for SD cards.
    On your device, the SDXC card fall back to older and slower speeds (Class-10, class-6, etc.), whereas the SDXC could have supported a faster one (UHS-1, UHS-3) had the reader had it too.

    At least that's the theory, when writing on a plain empty card.

    In practice, as there are already data on the card, it is limited mostly by the read-erase-write cycles and various wear-levelling tricks.
    (So it's mostly due to an interaction between the file system used by the OS and the firmware running on the SD card.
    - With Log-Structured and Copy-on-Write filesystems like UDF, F2FS, BTRFS, ZFS being better than classical FAT32.
    - And SD cards capable to handle many allocation units in RAM at the same time performing better)

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  27. Apple hardware by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Actually, you can find microSD card readers that plug into the Lightning port of the iPhone. So you could in theory use a 1TB card with them on an iPhone.

    And never the less, these cards target video/photo hardware.
    So it will get plugged in the camera itself (which certainly has a SD card port), and very likely has p-2-p Wifi connection to directly upload the pictures and videos to smartphones and laptops.

    So, for the specific use case for which this hardware was developped, Apple hardware isn't at a disadvantage.
    (Though Apple hardware sucks for not having any SD port: as there's no way to extend the internal storage)

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  28. MPAA by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I'm sure the MPAA would like to know where SanDisk's customers are getting all this 4K and 8K content that needs to be stored on a portable device.

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  29. So a 1TB drive is about $30... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can pick up 1TB drives or at least the equivalent for about $30 per terabyte. I assume this SD card will be similarly priced?

  30. Well, when you claim you've just lost everything by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    It won't just be a phrase.

  31. It aims you solve OLD storage problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It can do nothing for your hoarding problems.

  32. Dual SD card slots = 2TB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Pentax K3-II, K-1 and 645Z have dual SDXC slots. With this device, you can have 2TB of available storage on your camera. Maybe now I can go on a month long vacation and not worry about running out of space. Once I get home, I can stand back and watch Lightroom and Capture One puke while importing a "new" catalogue. What fun.

    There are other cameras that use dual SD cards, but since I shoot Pentax, I don't care.

  33. Still Waiting by tmjva · · Score: 1

    For the Write Only model!

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