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Samsung's 960 Pro and 960 Evo SSDs Marry Crazy-Fast Speeds With Roomy Capacity (pcworld.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Samsung is following up its NVMe successes from 2015 with some fresh blazing-fast M.2 SSDs for storage geeks. The company just announced the Samsung 960 Pro and 960 Evo during this year's Samsung SSD Global Summit. As with 2015's 950 Pro NVMe SSDs, the new 960 series marries stacked V-NAND density with the Non-Volatile Memory express (NVMe) specification. They also use a 4-lane PCIe 3.0 interface, just like the 950 Pro. The 960 Evo and Pro will roll out in October with prices starting at $130 and $330, respectively. The 960 Evo will be available in 250GB, 500GB, and 1TB capacities, while the Pro offers 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB versions. The Evo utilizes cheaper and more tightly packed TLC (triple-level cell) NAND, while the Pro sports speedier MLC (multi-level cell) NAND. That 2TB maximum is double the top capacity Samsung offered with the 950 Pro in 2015, and in another age would've earned the moniker "jaw dropping" for packing that much storage into an M.2 SSD. But this is the age of the 1TB SDXC card, so maybe sheer capacity increases aren't as impressive as they used to be. Seagate also announced a 2TB M.2 storage option for enterprises in July.BetaNews has more details.
Samsung products tend to explode.
"Capacity of Samsung's New 960 Pro and 960 Evo SSDs are bursting at the seams, With Blazing-Fast Speeds"
(calm down...I own a Note 7)
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
TFS: All that without saying how fast they are. lol
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I'd be rich. Can you imagine how much money Samsung is spending these days on paid astro-turf stories like these to deflect attention away from the hue and cry over their phones moonlighting as hand grenades?
Wow, that's a lot of marketing-speak for a technical analysis. Funny my ad-blocker missed this one ...
Is there a bios version i need to look for to be able to boot this?
>>4-lane PCIe 3.0 interface,
how old of MB would support this?
Intel needs more pci-e lanes or amd will kill them with zen.
Intel top end Kaby Lake cpus only have 16+4(DMI) 3.0 lanes off of the cpu and the chip set has 20-24 3.0 + LAN + USB + SATA stacked off of the X4 DMI link.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/innov...
The initial “Zen” cores for “Summit Ridge”-powered desktops will utilize the AMD AM4 socket, a new unified socket infrastructure that is compatible with 7th Generation AMD A-Series desktop processors. With dedicated PCIe® lanes for cutting-edge USB, graphics, data and other I/O, the AMD AM4 platform will not steal lanes from other devices and components. This allows users to enjoy systems with improved responsiveness and the future looking technologies that the AM4 platform provides, resulting in a powerful, scalable and reliable computing solution for all their needs.
Yeah, since your laptop needs more than 20*8Gb/s = 160Gb/s (20GB/s, comparable to the bandwidth of a pair of low clocked ddr4 sticks of ram) of pcie bandwidth...
If your application demands that you have more PCIe bandwidth than memory bandwidth go and get a real processor, the 2011-v3 socket has 40 lanes and the new socket 3647 will have 48 lanes. If even that is not enough you can do up to 8 processors per motherboard for a grand total of 384 lanes, or just under 1TB/s of aggregate bandwidth.
Missing the point.
The thing is that most Intel boards have X16 to the video card or x8 x8 to video or even X16 X16 switched from X16 for video and USB / sound / network / sata / M2 slots all have shear the same X4 DMI link.
A Intel current-gen CPU with 40 PCIe lanes is ridiculously expensive, you should take this into consideration.
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I just sat through a session talking about Intel's SSD line.
There are a few technology differences that Intel is branding in their SSDs vs other vendors. But one of the main takeaways I took from their presentation is reliability.
Intel has invested a lot of lab time into making sure their products are very stable. One of the most striking things they discussed is on a few competitor's SSDs they physically pulled the capacitors that perform some of their write buffers and the health check didn't even detect the issue. This would obviously cause corruption in certain scenarios and other issues.
Look at the specs for your system and/or motherboard, in particular the chipset it is using. Look for anything mentioning "M.2". My Z170 chipset mentions "M.2 x4" and "both SATA & PCIE mode" so I should be ready.
and the lower end chips on the same socket only have 24-28 lanes with still lot's of stuff on the X4 dmi link even in systems with 40+ lane cpus. At least some server boards feed the 2th cpu dmi link to it's own pci-e X4 slot.
Zen will need some performance or Intel will continue shitting on them through the end of the decade.
AMD's kit has been shit for a long time. Lower performance, lower efficiency, lower single thread performance. They're barely getting any design wins even in the low end. - So forgive me if I don't hold my breath.
(The Xbone and ps4 don't count. That's a different market. Intel doesn't compete in the custom SoC space. AMD's not making much money anyway, and they've had to cross-license their IP on very bad terms because MS and Sony have them bent over the table)
If you need system bandwidth Intel has a platform for you. - Its called Socket 2011. There are high end consumer and Xeon variants. Quad channel memory controllers, 40 PCIE 3.0 lanes. If you think you're going to saturate the mid line consumer platform then you can get more.
Most users won't, though. You might see bottlenecks with two graphics cards and an NVME SSD or two - Under synthetic benches. No amount of gaming or tormenting or encoding video files is going to saturate that no matter how high end you think you are.
Now, professional work? 4k video production? Sure. Yeah. Pay up for the real hardware you cheap shit.
"The 960 Pro offers a nice bump in sequential read/write speeds compared to the 950 Pro. The 960 Pro will have a read speed of 3.5GB/s and a sequential write speed of 2.1GB/s. The 950 Pro, by comparison, topped out its read speed at 2.5GB/s and a write speed of 1.5GB/s.
Samsung's promising a sequential read speed of 3.2GB/s and a write speed of 1.9GB/s for the 960 Evo. The 960 Evo will also be the first SSD to come with Samsung Intelligent TurboWrite technology, which the company says helps accelerate sequential read/write"
Those speeds won't happen all the time and at queue depths that typical users will never reach but even 20% sustained would be incredibly quick.
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You sound like Tim Cook.
Most people will never own a computer that needs this. You are only complaining about it because you read about it on Toms Hardware or similar.
It's a bit trumped up (well, as in old card games we still play), as they run the same 16+4 set up as far as I know. But there is way more I/O built into the CPU itself. Some of it is four SATA or two SATA plus two PCIe lanes for an SSD. Some of it is USB, but additional USB or SATA or PCIe SSD on the chipset will "steal" bandwith still.
It is trivial to put a 4x M.2 SSD on a 4x PCIe board, and you rarely need more than one 16x graphics card. (if all you're doing is to play games on dual graphics cards, huge storage and network I/O are unimportant)
So, with 28 lanes that break out at 16x + 8x + 4x on the motherboard and even with another 4x SSD that goes to the chipset, it's not bad.
Xeon E5-1620v3/v4 is a "cheap" option (works on X99 boards too) for full 40 lanes and ECC memory.