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Google's Autonomous Car Passes 2 Million Miles

Google said today it recently reached a huge milestone with its autonomous cars. Its cars have logged its two-millionth mile. To put into perspective, Google's self-driving cars have travelled roughly 300 years of human driving. The first million miles took Google six years, the second million came in at 16 months. Recode evaluates how far Google's self-driving cars have come. It notes that Google has been involved in 14 of such incidents, 13 of which were caused by other drivers.

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  1. lot of gas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is a lot of gas. Well over 300k in gas costs alone.

  2. 25 mph by radi0man · · Score: 1

    As I understand it, the test cars don't go faster than 25mph. After so many miles of testing, will the car finally be ready to drive a bit faster?

    1. Re:25 mph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's only in certain states.

    2. Re:25 mph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I understand it, the test cars don't go faster than 25mph. After so many miles of testing, will the car finally be ready to drive a bit faster?

      You are confused.

      I see their cars (white Lexus SUVs) on highway 101 and on El Camino Real on my daily commute (between Mountain View, CA and Santa Clara, CA almost every day. They drive at normal speeds -everything from stop and go to flying along at 65+mph.

      The other autonomous cars I see crawling back and forth in the neighborhoods look like modified golf carts and are annoyingly slow. These are a more recent addition to the experiment.

  3. Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Google's self-driving cars have travelled roughly 300 years of human driving."

    Quantity != Quality. 300 years of human driving involves a lot more than driving 25 mph on suburban roads in ideal weather conditions.

  4. 2 Million miles on the odometer! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They won't get much for that car when they sell it, it's hard to sell a car with more that 100,000 miles on it.

    1. Re:2 Million miles on the odometer! by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      12k miles is considered average yearly mileage that's about 32 miles a day so 2 million miles wouldn't be like 300 years of human driving. It's also not close to what I would drive in 300 years with a 40 mile one way commute 5-6 days a week plus all the other driving I was doing I was putting 35k to 40k on my vehicle each year for about 24 years I can safely say I've probably driven more than a millions miles. Thankfully, I don't commute like that any more.

  5. Good job by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    It looks like autonomous car development is "speeding up". Only 16 months for the second iteration? This is coming soon faster than I expected. I think Uber style services will jump on this first, then the traditional taxi services. Then trucks and buses and then the rest of us and then they will take my Red Barchetta away.

    1. Re:Good job by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "...then the traditional taxi services."

      Only when Google comes up with a version that speaks Urdu finds the special long way to get to each destination.

  6. They work by TheSync · · Score: 1

    I was just in Mountain View, and saw a Google car stopped at a traffic light. The light turned green, but a pedestrian jumped out in front of the car anyway. The Google car just sat there until the pedestrian left the crosswalk.

    1. Re:They work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it didn't honk, flip the guy the finger and yell some random obscenities, I question how well it actually works.

    2. Re:They work by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Whoa that is pretty amazing. I'm glad it didn't run over the guy. I am sure with working technology like that we will be seeing autonomous cars everywhere very soon.

    3. Re:They work by kqs · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's in the East Coast upgrade package. The New York package doesn't wait for the pedestrian.

    4. Re:They work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How impressive. Obstacle detection was definitely not a problem that was solved with toy cars decades ago.

      Until we have independent third party testing, this is all vaporware. I don't know why people are so trusting of development of a product that zero companies have been willing to demonstrate outside highly controlled test conditions.

    5. Re:They work by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      I love that you've been modded informative.

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    6. Re: They work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think his comment was negative. This f*****g car should have started no matter what and taught this pedestrian a good lesson.

  7. Uh, editors? by Daetrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It notes that Google has been involved in 14 of such incidents"

    14 of _which_ such incidents? I mean, i can make a pretty good guess, but if i were to read the blurb without any context i might think this is the 14th time Google has passed a million miles or something.

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    1. Re:Uh, editors? by xanthines-R-yummy · · Score: 1

      You're so picky, with the whole wanting clear unambiguous writing thing...

      Me, I like a good mystery!

  8. Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google said today it recently reached a huge milestone with its autonomous cars. Its cars have logged its two-millionth mile. To put into perspective, Google's self-driving cars have travelled roughly 300 years of human driving.

    That should say 300 years of a human driving. Even that is wrong though, since it's only about 150 times the average annual mileage; I'm guessing they're including non-drivers in their calculations. And that 2 million miles isn't even statistically significant; humans drive 3 trillion miles every year in the US alone. Google's cars haven't even backed out of the driveway yet.

    1. Re:Not quite by rudy_wayne · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And, that 2 million miles has mostly been on the same few miles of carefully mapped roads. Autonomous cars are a great idea, but, they need to demonstrate that they can handle more that the occasional stray pedestrian. They need to demonstrate the ability to drive on unfamiliar roads and roads with unexpected barriers (road construction that wasn't there yesterday) as well as other vehicles that behave in unexpected (and often illegal) ways.

    2. Re:Not quite by Kjella · · Score: 1

      And, that 2 million miles has mostly been on the same few miles of carefully mapped roads. Autonomous cars are a great idea, but, they need to demonstrate that they can handle more that the occasional stray pedestrian. They need to demonstrate the ability to drive on unfamiliar roads and roads with unexpected barriers (road construction that wasn't there yesterday) as well as other vehicles that behave in unexpected (and often illegal) ways.

      Drive around long enough and you will meet most kinds of crazy, even if you ask a truck driver that's hauled cargo the same route the last ten years. As for the rest, it's not that big a blocker as you might think. Imagine an autonomous taxi with a limited coverage area, it doesn't have to understand the road to your mountain cabin. How about an autonomous shuttle service from the airport to near-by hotels? A hop-on hop-off tourist bus driving the same round over and over? There's a lot of potential even for a limited service, not to mention they could do crowd-sourcing. That is to say, you drive the car where you want it to go, let the sensors collect whatever they need and upload it to Google. With luck they'll process it and next time it'll be an approved destination. I'd take a car that could do my commute, the rest would be nice-to-have but I'd be willing to teach, win-win for me and Google.

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    3. Re: Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, and 2 million miles of controlled circumstances and/or flat, grid-based terrain do not a real world scenario make.

    4. Re:Not quite by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Google's cars can cope with the unexpected. A few years ago they showed some detail of how they handle roadworks, and unexpected/illegal behaviour by other drivers and pedestrians has been assumed from day one.

      The cars use GPS for navigation and supplementary data, but not for primary driving functions. For that they use lidar and cameras that can read signs and interpret things like cones marking off roadworks (so they don't try to simply drive between cones etc.)

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  9. Re:Cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look! It's bitztream, the autism-hating Slashdot troll!

  10. A different perspective... by mspohr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tesla has collected over a billion miles of driving data (about 180 million on autopilot) and adds a million miles every 10 hours.

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    1. Re:A different perspective... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Do they record the screams of the people that slam into trucks while on autopilot?

    2. Re:A different perspective... by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      So Tesla is sorta like the Google of the automotive world?

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    3. Re:A different perspective... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 billion of level 3 (?) experience =/= 2 million of level 5 experience.

    4. Re:A different perspective... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that has what to do with what? Other manufacturers are putting on "Tesla" miles that you state per 10 hours (a freakish metric in and of itself) every minute. So what's your point?

    5. Re: A different perspective... by mspohr · · Score: 1

      It's all about the data. More data is better data. Other cars don't collect driving data (camera, radar, GPS, throttle, brakes,etc.). Tesla collects this and sends it in real time.

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    6. Re: A different perspective... by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

      Level 5? Not even close.

  11. the case for driverless cars everywhere? by xanthines-R-yummy · · Score: 1

    So, if I get this right, those Google cars cause about 0.5 accidents per 1M miles? If so, that equates to about 1.5M traffic accidents per year in the US if you replaced every car with a driverless model (assuming all rates are constant, of course). If that seems like a big number, Americans currently drive about 3 trillion miles per year and get into about 5.5 million traffic accidents. If I did the math right, driverless cars will result in about 2/3 fewer accidents per year than we experience now. Should we all welcome our autonomous vehicle overlords now?

    http://www.usacoverage.com/aut...

    http://www.afdc.energy.gov/dat...

    1. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the world of "lies, damn lies and statistics", you just used misleading statistics. You're comparing google cars working in only fair weather conditions in controlled situations with a human backup to take over at a moments notice to humans driving in all conditions. It's not exactly a fair comparison.

    2. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Why do people call these Google cars "driverless" when they have a driver in them (sometimes two)? Truly puzzling. Why not just eliminate the driver and let the car drive around by itself?

    3. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Should we all welcome our autonomous vehicle overlords now?

      As soon you figure out how to buy every American a $100K vehicle and also have automation drive safely on its own.

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    4. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by clonehappy · · Score: 2

      Because I think we know what the outcome would be.

      Here's the latest activity report: https://static.googleuserconte...

      Note that the car has only been in autonomous mode approximately 60% of the time. Which is about the amount of time you can spend not paying attention when driving a car manually. Basically, we've finally gotten a computer to do what humans can do with spare cycles.

      More non-news to promote an agenda, that's all.

    5. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, 100% adoption of autonomous vehicles would probably see a 99% reduction in accidents. But that isn't going to happen in your lifetime. The logistics involved are just too great.

    6. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by jittles · · Score: 1

      So, if I get this right, those Google cars cause about 0.5 accidents per 1M miles? If so, that equates to about 1.5M traffic accidents per year in the US if you replaced every car with a driverless model (assuming all rates are constant, of course). If that seems like a big number, Americans currently drive about 3 trillion miles per year and get into about 5.5 million traffic accidents. If I did the math right, driverless cars will result in about 2/3 fewer accidents per year than we experience now. Should we all welcome our autonomous vehicle overlords now?

      http://www.usacoverage.com/aut...

      http://www.afdc.energy.gov/dat...

      Sure if you want to drive in circles around Mountain View at half the posted speed limit.

    7. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do people call these Google cars "driverless" when they have a driver in them (sometimes two)?

      They never have two drivers. They sometimes have one driver. They almost always have zero drivers.

    8. Re:the case for driverless cars everywhere? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Note that the car has only been in autonomous mode approximately 60% of the time. Which is about the amount of time you can spend not paying attention when driving a car manually. Basically, we've finally gotten a computer to do what humans can do with spare cycles.

      From your linked report it's more like 74% lately:

      In August alone, our fleet of 58 vehicles traveled a record monthly total of 170,000 miles; of those, 126,000 miles were driven autonomously (i.e. the car was fully in control).

      This might be a PR blurb, but it looks like they try to avoid empty miles:

      We began testing on highways seven years ago, but today most of our miles are on surface streets. While it may be easier to rack up many more miles on highways through driver assist features like cruise control, creating a truly autonomous car requires advanced driving skills in order to master the complexity of neighborhoods

      If they keep driving around downtown there's not really that long between every time they need to take an action, it would be interesting to see how often/long the manual segments are. If it's the driver constantly "saving" the car via small interactions, or if it's more like driving a round to let the car collect sensor data and traffic patterns before making a "live" run. It seems unlikely that interceptions would last that long...

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    9. Re: the case for driverless cars everywhere? by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

      They always 100% of the time have 1 driver.

  12. What will kill autonomous vehicles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody has mentioned that the one thing that will hurt self driving cars. Is the fact they will most likely have to maintain a control speed limit. So if your running late your going to be SOL to get there any faster. The whole ideal behind autonomous vehicles is safety. So you can bet these vehicles won't be taking any risk, and in fact will be driving extra slow.

    1. Re:What will kill autonomous vehicles by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I can't wait to get caught behind a double-wide tractor driving 30mph down the shoulder/lane and have the AI too afraid/unable to pass in the oncoming lane.

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    2. Re: What will kill autonomous vehicles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes cause being late is a good reason to ignore speed limits. And it's very efficient also, let's say your commute is 30mn at normal speed and you're 10mn late, you just have to go at 150% of the speed limit to catch-up, a negligible risk.

  13. This! by s.petry · · Score: 2

    I hate these traffic blocking cars with a passion. I live in Mountain view and they are doing 15Mph around a curve which is not even posted as a curve (no danger) and 20-25 where the speed limit is posted at 35-45.

    Oh, at first it tolerable. "awe, look at the cute little Google car." After sitting behind these things trying to drive around the city for over a year, I am considering getting an IPO for anti-Google Car chaff cannons. (soda cans full of shredded aluminum foil). I'm pretty sure that would be illegal, so I have not filed a company charter.

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    1. Re:This! by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      You would think it would be illegal to drive that far under the speed limit. The good news is due to Moores Law we can expect ever increasing processor power which will allow the autonomous cars to process more information which will lead to faster speeds and make it even safer.

    2. Re:This! by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      If all humans drove that speed, they would easily be safer than a google car.

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    3. Re:This! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In many states it is illegal to impede traffic.

    4. Re:This! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If all humans drove that speed, and weren't looking down at their smartphone, they would easily be safer than a google car.

    5. Re:This! by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      It's a grey area. If they are driving 10 under the posted limit it's not likely to get them ticketed although Cops are always curious if you stand out so they might get pulled over to see what's up. If it's a 50 zone and they're doing 25 that's obviously a problem and so would be considered impeding traffic.

    6. Re:This! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If all humans obeyed traffic laws and were aware of local driving conditions, we wouldn't need self driving cars at all. Which is in fact an argument for why self driving cars are doomed to failure as the solution to traffic and traffic accidents - American society has an expectation of individual control over what we are allowed to do when we are driving, we can choose to break speed limits, or drive while intoxicated, or cut people off when we are annoyed at their poor decisions. Roads full of self driving cars would represent a complete obliteration of this aspect of culture. We would become compliant servants to the collective good.

    7. Re:This! by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Exactly.. People make a choice how they drive, so if AI isn't satisfying that choice people won't adopt it. But satisfy the choice and they will be more unsafe than the human in the first place.

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  14. Re:Cause by Higaran · · Score: 1

    Yes but 14 accidents per 2 million miles is basically nothing. If you take truck stats, which is all I could find I could find because it's a nation wide stat, in 2012 there were 77000 crashes with injuries, on 268,000,000 miles, of those 3802 were fatal crashes.

  15. Bad Comparison! by foxalopex · · Score: 1

    That's NOT an accurate comparison! In fact you cannot compare the two. The google system lets you pick a destination and the car will drive you there without intervention. Many owners who have tested Telsa's system have said you need to pay attention to what it's doing or you could potentially die like that one driver who sadly trusted it enough to watch a movie. The systems are so different on levels of automation it'd be like saying there's more miles on cruise control. Read up and learn the difference.

    1. Re:Bad Comparison! by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      So the Google cars can drive from say Camden to Brooklyn without any intervention? The only Google cars I have seen are in Mountain View, CA and they all have people in the drivers seat. Why is that? Why aren't we seeing Google cars everywhere driving around? Why only these carefully selected areas like Austin and Mountain View?

    2. Re:Bad Comparison! by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      The fact of the matter is, Tesla depends on their customers being shit scared of the technology or they wouldn't log the 'safety' numbers they do.

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    3. Re:Bad Comparison! by mspohr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do realize that the Google cars have a higher level of automated driving, more sensors, etc. (and also some severe limitations on speed, locations, weather, etc.).
      However, the object is to collect as much driving data as possible to see how the car behaves in different situations. In that case, total distance matters and Tesla is way ahead of anyone else. Tesla cars collect data even when AP is not switched on which is valuable to see how a human driver handles various road environments.

      This highlights a fundamental difference between Google and Tesla. Google is approaching the problem from the point of view that they have to develop a complete system that does everything. Tesla is taking an incremental approach by introducing a low level of autonomous driving with human supervision and then letting the collected data drive continuous improvements. We'll see which approach is best as time goes on.

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    4. Re: Bad Comparison! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      At a certain point, Tesla's data will be less useful. Cars taking the same path down the same highway will not yield much 'experience'. How many of those miles were just one car doing exactly what the one before it did?

    5. Re: Bad Comparison! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The data is not rhe same. Tesla cars are real cars, equipped with only a few cameras and sensors. Google cars have way more, collecting much more data. Having a lot of data is nice but the quality and the precision of the data matters too

    6. Re:Bad Comparison! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not; you're right. But the data collected by the autopilot system especially while the human is driving is certainly useful and does give them an advantage over google in that respect.

    7. Re:Bad Comparison! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      So what you are saying is that Tesla out-Googled Google on the data collection front. And Tesla don't even give you the car for free!

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    8. Re: Bad Comparison! by mspohr · · Score: 1

      You need multiple people doing the same thing on the same road to know the right way to do it. Then you can throw out the outliers.

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    9. Re:Bad Comparison! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm.. because technological advancement isn't always just something that happens overnight? Durrr....

    10. Re:Bad Comparison! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      er... because they're still legally required to have someone in the driverseat

  16. This is great by w3bd4wg · · Score: 1

    "15Mph around a curve which is not even posted as a curve (no danger) and 20-25 where the speed limit is posted at 35-45." Do you think they have the speed set low right now so when accidents do occur that statistically there is less risk of a fatality? Can they handle weather, potholes, unmapped roads, and construction yet? I hate the hype, and hopefully soon these cars will drive fast, and work better, but it seems like all of these news reports are always forgetting to mention the bad.

    1. Re:This is great by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Didn't you read the story about the Uber autonomous cars which are driving around in Pittsburgh right now? Disregard the fact that they actually have TWO drivers in them. The future is NOW and is only going to get better!

    2. Re:This is great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disregard the fact that they actually have TWO drivers in them.

      You should, because it isn't true.

    3. Re:This is great by Maxwell · · Score: 1
      Whatever: one driver and one engineer. Two humans, OK? Got that?

      Like in the olden days when you raced with a mechanic on board....

    4. Re:This is great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever: one driver and one engineer. Two humans, OK? Got that?

      Most of the time, it's zero drivers. Occasionally it's one driver. You are, after all, not a driver if you're not driving.

      Like in the olden days when you raced with a mechanic on board....

      Not even a little bit like that. The engineer is there to take notes, not perform repairs.

    5. Re: This is great by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

      No, it's never zero drivers.

  17. Re:Cause by Hylandr · · Score: 1

    It's sad this was modded down to oblivion but it's tragically very true.

    When evaluating who was at fault of an accident it's not who *caused* the accident, but who gets hit in most cases.

    If someone's coming into your lane you and you change lanes and get a broadside it's your fault, as opposed to staying straight and praying your car stops in time and getting killed in the head on.

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  18. Re:Cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure I care who's at fault for getting into an accident. At some point, it becomes your fault for getting into accident after accident, and when my car has crushed my skull in because it was following 'the rules' rather than avoiding the accident, I don't think I'll care who's fault it was.

    The only accidents I've ever been in I was standing still and someone crashed into me. Once at a stop light and once parked in a parking lot. And yet, somehow, it's my fault. You're an idiot.

  19. Re:Cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes but 14 accidents per 2 million miles is basically nothing

    vs 5.5 million accidents over 3 trillion miles?

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=how+many+auto+accidents+per+year+in+the+us

    http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_01_35.html

    Nah, call me a Luddite all you want. We're still winning.

  20. 300 years of driving? Poppycock! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I put 16,000 miles on my car every year. When I was (as a human) driving an 18-wheeler, my truck would get over 120,000 miles a year. I could log 2 million miles in 16 years at that rate. It was a 2-person team, so even alone I could do that in 32 years. 300 years of human driving? Nonsense.

  21. Always the other guy's fault by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    It notes that Google has been involved in 14 of such incidents, 13 of which were caused by other drivers.

    So they automated politicians also?

    1. Re:Always the other guy's fault by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      It notes that Google has been involved in 14 of such incidents, 13 of which were caused by other drivers.

      So they automated politicians also?

      They didn't need to, they've been coin-operated for a while

  22. 32 billion miles of human driving per day by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    12k miles is considered average yearly mileage that's about 32 miles a day so 2 million miles wouldn't be like 300 years of human driving.

    It's even worse when you consider that there are over 6 billion humans on the planet and just over a billion cars for them to drive so if the average is 32 miles a day that makes 32 billion miles of human driving every day. So perhaps the headline should read 5.4s of human driving or 167 years of one person driving.

    1. Re:32 billion miles of human driving per day by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Good point... also it's only driven twice as far as me but been in 14 times as many accidents {that is if they are only counting moving accidents I've had cars hit while they were parked plenty of times}

    2. Re:32 billion miles of human driving per day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From a former trucker its worth pointing out that many OTR companies only give bonuses every 5 million miles error free. Error free means no accidents, no tickets, no mechanical failures on the road, no load or unload mistakes.

      And people think that automation is already better than humans. Commercial drivers are quaking in their boots.

  23. Don't care; Do not want. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 0

    I'd rather walk everywhere than ever have a so-called 'self-driving car' or even step inside one. If it doesn't have a steering wheel, accelerator pedal, a brake pedal, and a way for me to be in total control of it, I don't want it.

    1. Re:Don't care; Do not want. by Maxwell · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's why I never use subways, airplanes or trains. If I can't drive, I ain't getting in!

    2. Re:Don't care; Do not want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason I never use cruise control! If I am not controlling the throttle all the time, I am not driving! /s

    3. Re:Don't care; Do not want. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Yeah sure thing buddy, because we're talking about ALL transportation here, not just automobiles. Like I always get off my bike and walk it down hills, because I'm not actually driving the bike with my legs when I go down hills and that's just WRONG.

      Oh, please. What's next? You going to accuse me of never using an elevator or escalator, too? We are discussing automobiles.

  24. More like 3.5 years of actual driving time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=2000000%2F65%2F24%2F365&t=ffab&ia=answer

    2000000miles / 65miles/hr / 24hr/day / 365day/.year = 3.512 years

    In addition to critical thinking, nerds are bad at math apparently

  25. Yawn by kackle · · Score: 1

    There would be no accidents if we all drove 5 mph, only in good weather, and on mostly straight roads (highways). These on the road are going to mean slower traffic for all.

  26. Re:Cause by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 1

    I have to admit that I don't buy this. It's comparing normal car crashes reported to police versus google car crashes, which get included in the "14" statistic no matter how minor. Also, you could compare google car crashes with injuries (1 out of 14--too small for meaningful analysis) versus normal crashes with injuries (1 out of 4). Or you could compare the number of crashes caused by humans (almost all) versus those caused by the google car (1).

  27. Don't put them on I-294 or any other IL tollway by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Don't put them on I-294 or any other IL tollway no one does the 55 or even the 45 work zone

  28. Re:Cause by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    I think that you should only count the 1 crash caused by the autonomous system. That's 1 crash due to a glitch out of 2 million miles.

  29. Re:Cause by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately most of the time people don't swerve to avoid the head on. It's on them so fast they're hit before they can react. I've seen a lot of those accidents on the road I commute to work on. It's a 4 lane highway with a accel/decel lane in the middle. No divider and traffic typically running between 65 and 75 during rush hours. Just a few months ago a man had a heart attack and swerved into oncoming traffic killing another man headed the opposite way. Witnesses said it was so fast that the victim in the other car never even hit his brakes. There have been many of these over the 30 years I've been commuting down that highway. Enough that I ride in the far right lane and don't give a shit how fast I get to work.

  30. 300 human years? by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

    300 years of human driving. hmmm that must make my mother just over 200 years old.

  31. Most countries use metric these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most countries use metric these days. Somehow 3218688 kilometres seems not that significant as a number.

    1. Re: Most countries use metric these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the same time it's six figures more significant than 2 million miles.

  32. My Neighborhood is full of them in AZ by tickticker · · Score: 1

    Those second million might have happened in my neighborhood in Chandler, AZ. for the past year at least, we've had swarms of them driving around our neighborhood streets at all times of the day and night, thought not late night that I'm aware of (ie mid-5 am, as a linux lead for several large international companies, I get more done at night so I'm up working those hours when no one annoys me with chats etc). At times we've seen 6 driving through our streets all in a line. Driving from pickup up dinner and gas yesterday, about 2 miles, I saw 3 of them including one at the pump next to us at the gas station (we drive a Volt, $13 fill up! W00t!). At first it was interesting, now it's just another car on the road. Haven't heard of any accidents, nor seen any. Though I haven't looked, you might be able to catch some in Google Maps sat images, I see our cars every refresh.

    It's very comforting to see them being used so successfully locally, and really gives you some confidence in the product.

  33. Re:Cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think many accidents are caused by the other car involved not doing what you expect. If the google car doesn't operate like another human driver, I think you can expect some of these crashes even if it's the human driver's fault, they maybe expected the google car to react like a human driver was in control.

  34. They're forgetting something... by hfox · · Score: 1

    This doesn't count all of the times that the human had to take over because the car *would* have caused an accident.