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RIAA Seizes Wrong MP3Skull Domain (torrentfreak.com)

Reader AmiMoJo writes: In its continued quest to keep the Internet piracy-free, the RIAA has seized the domain name of yet another MP3Skull site. However, it appears that their most recent target has nothing to do with the original service. Earlier this year a Florida federal court issued a permanent injunction which allowed the RIAA to take over the site's domain names. Despite the million dollar verdict MP3Skull continued to operate for several months, using a variety of new domain names, which were subsequently targeted by the RIAA's legal team. Now MP3Skull.onl, an unrelated YouTube converter, has also been seized.

49 comments

  1. Sincere question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since ICANN is no longer part of the USA government, how can a florida court still seize domain names?

    1. Re:Sincere question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since ICANN is no longer part of the USA government, how can a florida court still seize domain names?

      I'm not part of the USA government and neither is my employer but if I were in the USA and a court with authority there ordered me to do something, I'd likely do it (I might draw the line e.g. at torturing babies but not at updating domain records) or else I'd risk imprisonment.

    2. Re:Sincere question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Me too, but then I'd emigrate and take my business with me. I already stopped flying to the US just because of post-9/11 fondle-me laws, which is a shame as I was doing quite well buying and selling there, but I'd rather sleep well at night than on a more expensive bed.

      The American government is a product of those who invest into it. Every time someone trades freedom for comfort, they lose freedom.

    3. Re:Sincere question by jenningsthecat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...Every time someone trades freedom for comfort, they lose freedom.

      Yes, and the sad thing is that they eventually lose the comfort too.

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    4. Re:Sincere question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, if they were part of the government then potentially they could claim sovereign immunity but I'm having trouble seeing how NOT being part of a government protects you from court action.

    5. Re:Sincere question by johanw · · Score: 1

      You refuse to waterboard baby terrorists? Up to Gitmo you go!

    6. Re:Sincere question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just outsource all ICANN work to a democracy loving nation (HINT: The USA is not in the top ten)

    7. Re:Sincere question by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Authoritarian followers are not only vicious, they are also stupid. No police-state in history has ever done good things for its citizens, yet these here demand one.

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    8. Re:Sincere question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The judgment was passed down before the changeover.

    9. Re:Sincere question by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      The USA has never been a democracy. Perhaps you need to revisit civics class to understand the difference between representative republics and democracies. Is there even a country that is run as democracy?

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  2. the real criminal here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why hasn't the RIAA been subjected to the RICO act... they certainly have always acted like gangsters and thugs and thieves in the night.

    1. Re:the real criminal here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Music And Film Industry Association of America makes enough political contributions to make it extremely difficult to bring them to account.

    2. Re:the real criminal here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because the entire judicial system would need to be included as co-conspirators

    3. Re:the real criminal here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot lawyerin'. Always amusing. We'll consider it when you bring proof that you've passed The Bar...

    4. Re:the real criminal here... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Funny
    5. Re:the real criminal here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok.... while you might be correct in the absolutely literal sense, my way made the point with considerably less confusion for most of the folks reading since they understand what I meant without me having to get real wordy about it (like I did just now... 8^)

    6. Re:the real criminal here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Prosecutorial discretion". aka hypocrisy. aint 'murika great. again. still. wtfever.

  3. they would have gotten around to this one anyway.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    youtube "converter" and direct download sites are already in their crosshairs

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story...

  4. Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Typical. The very fact that the RIAA has the power to take over domains is worrying, to say the least. It shouldn't have the same sort of power as a governmental body does - I can understand the FBI taking control of a domain. Fine, that's a federal matter. The RIAA is supposed to be an association of recording industry companies. This in turn shows that corporations have more power than they should.

    1. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This in turn shows that corporations have more power than they should.

      The voters hand it over to them when they (re)elect corporate puppets. There is nobody else to blame, so everybody should quit their bellyaching.

    2. Re:Ugh by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Don't blame the voters. No matter who is elected, they will be corrupted by money once enough of it comes their way. Blame the puppet masters for corrupting the system.

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    3. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, fuck that. 95% of those crooks are reelected, despite their corruption. It's because the voters are just as corrupt and want a piece of the action. Bring home that bacon!. The system is a perfect reflection of voter corruption. All the money is used to buy their votes.

    4. Re:Ugh by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      The RIAA has 0 government powers. They don't seize domain names. You are misunderstanding the difference between the government, embodied by the judicial branch, and an organization bringing a lawsuit against someone who is breaking copyright laws for profit.

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  5. move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing to see here. Due process for your overlords but not for you.

  6. BFD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "MPSkull.onl"? Gee, that sounds like an innocent, totally coincidental choice of names.

    You guys are reaching for stuff with which to bash the record industry. What if there was a story about a US IT worker who sued for age discrimination, and it turned out to be a fradulent claim? Of course, that type of story would be deemed not worthy of Slashdot coverage.

    1. Re:BFD by maliqua · · Score: 2

      It would be if those IT Workers did something like that every few weeks

    2. Re:BFD by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Aside from this exact case, we really haven't heard about the RIAA doing anything nasty for months - maybe even years.

    3. Re:BFD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you haven't heard doesn't mean they're not doing nasty stuff...

    4. Re:BFD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      well then welcome back to the internet after your extended hiatus

    5. Re:BFD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am glad that you have recovered from your coma, good to have you back.

    6. Re:BFD by HiThere · · Score: 1

      While largely correct, you statement should be understood "The RIAA acting as a criminal terrorist is no longer news." It's not that they've stopped doing it, it's that it's so common it's no longer news.

      There was a time when every murder or robbery was front-page news (in the local paper). OK, the town was small, and it was uncommon, so it was news. Now the towns have turned into cities, and the papers are parts of a chain with no local ownership, and murder and robbery aren't even mentioned. This doesn't mean they have stopped happening.

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    7. Re:BFD by allo · · Score: 1

      I guess it just were namesquatters. Using the same name under another TLD for a slightly related service, hoping for typos and/or many visitors from search engines. I am not very sorry for them, they are spammers anyway.

  7. Restitution for negligence on behalf of the RIAA? by NotARealUser · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am sure, our courts being fair and all, that the RIAA will pay full restitution for the damages caused by their neglectful actions. :/

  8. The RIAA... by surfdaddy · · Score: 1

    is like the modern Mavia. A bunch of thugs.

    1. Re:The RIAA... by surfdaddy · · Score: 1

      Sorry, that's "Mafia"!

    2. Re:The RIAA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Mavia is right. "Mafia" is a copyrighted term. Capisch?

  9. They hate YouTube conversion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They probably don't care. They blame YouTube converters themselves for causing them financial loss. Yeah, I don't get it either, but they do. There was a story about that a while ago.

  10. Re:Restitution for negligence on behalf of the RIA by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Their mistake was using a TLD administered in the US. If they had used one that ignored US legal rulings they might be okay. As it is, they would have to sue the RIAA in the US which would be costly and difficult, so basically they are screwed.

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  11. Deleteme by bmimatt · · Score: 0

    Posting to undo erroneous modding.

  12. Re:Restitution for negligence on behalf of the RIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I am sure, our courts being fair and all, that the RIAA will pay full restitution for the damages caused by their neglectful actions. :/

    Neglectful actions? That wasn't neglectful actions. It was a deliberate act of Piracy.

  13. Re:they would have gotten around to this one anywa by omnichad · · Score: 2

    In other words, it's a feature not a bug.

  14. F*ck "RIAA" Shell Company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sony-Universal-EMI-Warner"

    The RIAA simply does what the Major Labels want without getting their own names dirty.

    They simply don't care if you hate something that does't sell anything.
    So start hating on the b*stards pulling the strings -and selling a ton of sh!t.

    Hurt the sales.

  15. If they *really* wanted to make a difference... by tekrat · · Score: 1

    If they *really* wanted to make a difference, they should go after the source of most piracy. The root servers of the internet. And if they can't do that, go after Youtube.

    Only by the total injuction of all TCP/IP traffic can they insure that there's no piracy.

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    1. Re:If they *really* wanted to make a difference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Despite a 6-digits id, you apparently don't remember swapping software on disks. The packets are only the runners. Gotta hit piracy where it lives: the disk!

    2. Re:If they *really* wanted to make a difference... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      If they really want to stop piracy, what they really need to do is go after the real source of all piracy, which is the publishers of the music/videos.

      But they are funded directly by them, so it will never happen, it is much easier to play wack-a-mole instead of really fixing the issue by improving people's access to the media.

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  16. Re:Restitution for negligence on behalf of the RIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey.. you might wanna realise that this site was for a video convertor.. nothing to do with piracy.

  17. mp3skull reborn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah found their new domain name https://mp3.skull.to seems to be same site.

  18. Re:Restitution for negligence on behalf of the RIA by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    .ONL is a generic TLD that was applied for in Germany (Deutchland), how exactly is that administered in the US?

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