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Google Reveals It Received Secret FBI Subpoena (theintercept.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the top-secret dept.

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Intercept: Google revealed Wednesday it had been released from an FBI gag order that came with a secret demand for its customers' personal information. The FBI secret subpoena, known as a national security letter, does not require a court approval. Investigators simply need to clear a low internal bar demonstrating that the information is "relevant to an authorized investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities." The national security letter issued to Google was mentioned without fanfare in Google's latest bi-annual transparency report, which includes information on government requests for data the company received from around the world in the first half of 2016. Google received the secret subpoena in first half of 2015, according to the report. An accompanying blog post titled "Building on Surveillance Reform," also identified new countries that made requests -- Algeria, Belarus, and Saudi Arabia among them -- and reveals that Google saw an increase in requests made under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But Google in its short blog post did not publish the contents of the actual letter the way other companies, including Yahoo, have done in recent months. Asked about plans to release the national security letter, a Google spokesperson told The Intercept it will release it, though it wouldn't say when or in what form it will do so. Google hasn't previously published any national security letters, though it's possible gag orders for prior demands are still in place. It's also unclear why Google wouldn't immediately publish the document -- unless the gag is only partially lifted, or the company is involved in ongoing litigation to challenge the order, neither of which were cited as reasons for holding it back

61 comments

  1. Hardly Surprising, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be naive to assume otherwise.

  2. The Googleplex is the Surveillance State by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poor Google. They're trying real hard to be transparent.

    1. Re: The Googleplex is the Surveillance State by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they want to be transparent they should add more glass.

    2. Re:The Googleplex is the Surveillance State by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor Google. They're trying real hard to be transparent.

      They're taking their lead from Obama, no doubt.

    3. Re: The Googleplex is the Surveillance State by arth1 · · Score: 2

      If they want to be transparent they should add more glass.

      Google Glass was such a nice way of identifying hipsters.

    4. Re: The Googleplex is the Surveillance State by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Confusing yappies with money with hipsters.

    5. Re:The Googleplex is the Surveillance State by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      "Asked about plans to release the national security letter, a Google spokesperson told The Intercept it will release it, though it wouldn't say when or in what form it will do so."

      There's this really nifty thing called a Google Doodle... PUT IT THERE!

      Transparent and Google are almost contradictory, nowadays.

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  3. That's it... by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm going to write my congressmen and demand to know if they are in the pocket of major technology companies, and if not, offer them a list of suggestions.

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    1. Re:That's it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what kind of head hunting fee are you figuring on?

  4. Google follows us everywhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you noticed how many web sites use Google Analytics and other Google services? Google tracks us. Because of that, Google is rapidly losing the respect of the technology community.

    The NoScript and Ghostery browser add-ons are excellent. Otherwise it would be difficult to know how much we lack privacy.

    1. Re: Google follows us everywhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If you use NoScript, I recommend that you switch to umatrix.

      NoScript can't be trusted: https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html

      Also, umatrix has a much nicer ui and is lighter on resources.

    2. Re: Google follows us everywhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you can remove the default whitelist.

      The fact is that with google blocked large parts of the web stop working. ajax.googleapis is used everywhere so google ends up on the allowed list.

  5. President Hillary! will fix this!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She'd NEVER sell out your interests to some corporation or foreign country in exchange for a few million dollars!

    1. Re: President Hillary! will fix this!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ALL politicians will sell you out for a quick buck.

      TFTFY.

    2. Re:President Hillary! will fix this!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And just how do you suppose President Trump is going to compile his list of Mexicans and Muslims to round up and kick out of the country? Ask them to volunteer? No, he'd be issuing National Security Letters as fast as they could be printed, demanding the identities of everyone Google and Facebook has "identified for advertising demographic purposes" as being Mexican or Muslim.

  6. Anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's at the point now where an NSL letter could be generated for any frivolous crime. Caught shoplifting? Let's issue an NSL letter and target the guys entire family. Separate laws for the knights and lords. Common peasants will always be fucked.

    1. Re:Anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Common peasants will always be fucked.

      Judging from the candidates they nominate, it appears that is the way they like it and want more of the same. Otherwise they would vote every incumbent out of the house instead of reelecting 95% of them. So, please, place the blame where it belongs. Remember, the "system" is us.

    2. Re:Anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically if you get caught shoplifting, they'll issue an NSL and target your entire family because er, shoplifting in itself is a national security issue?

      Where does the line get drawn? They can get whatever they want whenever they want and target you if some prosecutor is pissed?

      Must be nice for the laws to apply to the common peasants only. The lords and knights, aka cops, prosecutors and judges have different rules to play by right?

      Where did you read that NSLs are issued for shop lifting?

      How does being targeting by one of these NSLs affect the target's life?

  7. Who would have thought? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone who is still storing anything of any importance in the US or with a US company is essentially wilfully consenting to the US government snooping into their data for any use they see fit and storing it forever. It is abundantly clear that US companies cannot be trusted with personal data, even if the company itself means no harm. The US government has made them all complicit in its relentless war on privacy. Some fight it, others cooperate enthousiastically, but the end result is the same: the US government gets your data and the company that handed it over cannot even tell you.

    1. Re:Who would have thought? by arth1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anyone who is still storing anything of any importance in the US or with a US company is essentially wilfully consenting to the US government snooping into their data for any use

      This is nothing new, as the United States has next to no data protection laws, and even fewer international agreements. US companies have always carried a risk of them selling the data to others, including the government. What changed post-2011 is that it's now easier for US government agencies to get data without bidding for it.

    2. Re:Who would have thought? by swillden · · Score: 1

      What changed post-2011 is that it's now easier for US government agencies to get data without bidding for it.

      Implying that pre-2011 agencies paid for data. This is a common notion on /. and elsewhere, but I've seen no evidence anywhere that government agencies ever paid for data.

      Do you know of some?

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    3. Re:Who would have thought? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who is still storing anything of any importance in the US or with a US company is essentially wilfully consenting to the US government snooping into their data for any use they see fit and storing it forever.

      NAWBO (https://www.nawbo.org/) is a far greater threat to privacy and security, than the U.S. government. Those national security letters are total bullshit; they're a scam, most likely perpetrated by NAWBO, to facilitate the circumvention of establised legal procedures. Also, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court is a fictional entity.

    4. Re:Who would have thought? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who is still storing anything of any importance in the US or with a US company is essentially wilfully consenting to the US government snooping into their data for any use they see fit and storing it forever.

      Anyone who doesn't built a 20 foot moat around their castle is essentially willfully consenting to the US government snooping into their dungeons for any reason they see fit.

    5. Re:Who would have thought? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I know of several times that the US govt paid for data, but the data wasn't exactly private data, and the purchase wasn't secret. They may also have done it with private data, or have kept their purchase secret, but I don't know about those cases. And it may well depend on which arm of the federal government you are dealing with.

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    6. Re:Who would have thought? by swillden · · Score: 1

      I know of several times that the US govt paid for data, but the data wasn't exactly private data, and the purchase wasn't secret. They may also have done it with private data, or have kept their purchase secret, but I don't know about those cases. And it may well depend on which arm of the federal government you are dealing with.

      What, you mean like above-board purchase of GIS mapping data or such? What we're talking about is purchase of information about people that would normally require a court order to compel. There's a common belief that companies have been selling user data to government agencies as a secret profit center, but I can't find any example. We know that telcos were giving them huge amounts of data, but there doesn't seem to have been any fee for it.

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  8. What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let's say somebody accidentally publishes the scan of the incoming letter on the homepage. Just for a short time, until he err notices. Internally nobody knows, who make this mistake, but now several people downloaded it and it's trending on reddit.

    What happens next?

    1. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The corporation has to go to federal jail, but unfortunately the corporation is too big to jail.

    2. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 2

      I always wonder, why a NSL for example for google doesn't leak. First enough people know it and its stored somewhere insecure and next it leaks and nobody knows what happend. Of course the leak was stopped and everybody urged to delete it, yes even on reddit. There isn't much more you can do, when such an accident happened ...

    3. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What happens next?

      Given that the NSLs arrive in physical form, with an FBI agent (well, at least two) attached (and if you think removing staples is hard, try removing an FBI agent from a stack of paper), "accidents" are hard to explain/justify. And the laws involved in disclosure are serious felonies. Someone ends up going to prison for a long long time.

    4. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      First, Google has been released from the gag order on this NSL, so as I understand it Google could publish the letter now with no penalty.

      Second, the constitutionality of these gag orders has been seriously challenged, so if Google was willing a fight they could probably publish any NSL they wished. Gag orders have historically been the purview of courts, and judges take a dim view of other people doing their job for them.

      Third, it's safe to assume Google tracks revisions to their pages, so yes, they would soon know who made the 'mistake'. Also, a letter like this should be shared with extremely few people within the company, so it shouldn't be hard to follow the chain until suspicious activity is found. Punishment for this sort of mishandling would be limited to a fine, however, so the FBI would go after Google's deep pockets rather than try to pin the crime on an individual. The employee should be safe from criminal charges, though not, presumably, from Google discipline.

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    5. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by EETech1 · · Score: 2

      I wonder if you could use Google to find the leaked Google NSL online?

    6. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's say somebody accidentally publishes the scan of the incoming letter on the homepage. Just for a short time, until he err notices. Internally nobody knows, who make this mistake, but now several people downloaded it and it's trending on reddit.

      What happens next?

      No reasonable prosecutor would care about those felonies.

    7. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First, Google has been released from the gag order on this NSL, so as I understand it Google could publish the letter now with no penalty.

      As TFA states, it is not clear if the entire gag order has been lifted. There are cases where the order to collect/release data has been rescinded/completed, but the details of the what/who/when are still under wraps.

    8. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wonder, why a NSL for example for google doesn't leak. First enough people know it and its stored somewhere insecure and next it leaks and nobody knows what happend. Of course the leak was stopped and everybody urged to delete it, yes even on reddit. There isn't much more you can do, when such an accident happened ...

      Because the FBI will do an investigation in private, and The Internet will tweet death threats and mail boxes of dog turds to the named individuals in the NSL.

    9. Re: What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like Hillary? No reasonable person would prosecute her based on the evidence. Amirite? /sarcasm.

    10. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rectal feeding

    11. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 1

      Maybe google exercises its right to be forgotten? :D

    12. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 1

      I am not speaking about this case, but in general. Because my impression is, leaking something like this is what a nice company would try. But they are not allowed to do so. But if enough people know it (so nobody can later be sure, who of the 100 employees were involved in the leak) something may happen. Of course its quickly undone and internet is known for forgetting leaked things really fast. And the revision tracking system just had the need to restore a backup, which sadly overwrote the logs of the changes in between.

      > FBI would go after Google's deep pockets rather than try to pin the crime on an individual.
      That's the interesting part. What does happen to a company, which does not comply to the gag-order part of the NSL? If only all companies at once would start publishing NSLs as soon as they get in, the FBI could not prosecute them all. It's the atmosphere of fear, which prevents civil disobedience. You hear NSL and get images of guantanamo in your head.

    13. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 1

      okay. They got the letter with some agents attached. Don't they get the piece of paper? If not ... they at least get all relevant information, as what (who) they want, that this actually IS a NSL and so on. Some rumors which may be more or less confidential dending ond the handling of the issue.

      I do not even mean to be disobedient about some measures, but transparent. This means, give them the suspect's data, but make sure your users know, that their data be at risk.

      Looking at lavabit, it they must have some real threats, because they did everything to comply without complying (printing the Server Key with a tiny font, but then giving it to the FBI) instead of just deleting it accidentally when asked for it. So they must have feared something.

    14. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Third, it's safe to assume Google tracks revisions to their pages, so yes, they would soon know who made the 'mistake'. Also, a letter like this should be shared with extremely few people within the company, so it shouldn't be hard to follow the chain until suspicious activity is found. Punishment for this sort of mishandling would be limited to a fine, however, so the FBI would go after Google's deep pockets rather than try to pin the crime on an individual. The employee should be safe from criminal charges, though not, presumably, from Google discipline.

      Also, it's very likely that the set of people with access to the letter and the set of people with access to the systems to publish the letter are disjoint.

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    15. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      So few people would have a clearance to see it and the thats the way the US gov likes it.
      A few lawyers and staff install any hardware to log, track, store or split.
      Any person who get the order is profiled to ensure they have no traits that would on average make them talk to the press.
      Any request would be expressed in terms of the worst crimes to ensure compliance too during that year or decade.
      Talking would let the worst kinds of people escape and break a case that was built over many years.

      The positive and negative pressure put on anyone reading such a letter would be very crafted to be very persuasive.
      i.e. every case would be criminal, the worst crimes and have years of discovery and undercover work behind it. That would the positive aspect to getting support.
      The negative would be that so few people know about tracking any leak would be easy to find and result in decades of convictions added up. A life conviction over and over for stopping an active case.

      The hint of a later medical exam to find out why they felt the need to make a case fail and court ordered medication to help with that condition?
      Any publication helped "bad" people understand how the US gov gathers information, the person who talked is actively supporting "bad" people. More decades of crimes to add up. Great lawyers can get expensive with experts to find, but the feds can close bank accounts. No funding for a private sector legal team. Only offer a security cleared gov approved lawyer.
      Such positive and negative talking points can be very chilling and ensure full complacence with all US gov request.

      The other part is the US gov has seen so many cases lost as staff sell out to their faith, cult, have dual citizenship and years of work is lost when interesting people get away just after a telco support request is requested.
      So the US gov is now very careful in selecting a few people in any company to approach and ensures they are trustworthy with random fakes case loads.
      If any info leaks it can be tracked back to one person and security is tested until that person deep in a company can be trusted by the US gov.

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    16. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      however, so the FBI would go after Google's deep pockets rather than try to pin the crime on an individual. The employee should be safe from criminal charges, though not, presumably, from Google discipline.

      How do you know that? If the approval process for publishing something wasn't followed, Google could claim it was hacked internally by an employee and could insist that charges be filed against said employee.

    17. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 1

      Maybe i underestimate this ...

      I would have thought they come and want me to get them data. No way i let them install something in the server room without internal procedures, which ensure security and so on, that my admins know what happens and why, if they cannot do something with it they need at least to know that someones IS changing things.
      Then i would of course want to talk with other management staff, even when i do not tell them what exactly is happening.

      What you write sounds more like james bond operation, where the secret agents come in and walk with suction cups into the server room to avoid any traces a admin can find afterwards, while threatening me with a machine gun, so i won't have the idea to object to anything.

      The moral side of the story is another one. If you trust your government, there isn't so much to object giving out the data, as far as its limited enough to one person and i.e. without contact lists which may contain innocent persons. Of course you may have a strong stance against it, but i at least understand why some people do not have it. But i doubt, that they only target terrorists. If they knew it was an terrorist, they would target him and not his data. Good old police work instead of demanding data. Leading to persons instead of surveilance.

    18. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The "server room without internal procedures" is really the key to all this. What and who gets to define access for years of domestic content without question.
      Recall the internal and external reactions to PRISM.
      Room 641A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Qwest reportedly balked nsa records sweep (5/12/2006)
      http://www.nbcnews.com/id/1275...

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    19. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens is several senior FBI/DHS/FCC/USPS agents visit the corporate offices and begin an investigation as to who precisely was responsible for the leak. Operations of the violating company would be restricted/limited by bureaucratized LE processes to the extent that the TLA wants to screw with the company.
      For both the corporation, and the individual leaking, it would most likely be construed as an obstruction of justice. A corporation will piss all over itself to cooperate with unmasking the individual leaker if it results in the DOJ dropping the corporation from an obstruction charge. It could also be considered aiding and abetting, which would make the leaker as equally guilty of whatever crime is being investigated. (i.e. if they really are going after Al Qaeda - the leaker just became a noncombatant terrorist.)
      It is not impossible that the offending company's domains are seized for "investigative purposes." For someone massive like Google, that won't happen. Instead, you'll get threats of, "If you want your company to keep all its contracts with the Fed, you will cooperate fully and freely without reservation." But the Goog is already in the Fed's pocket in such an instance as this.... they obviously protested and won to be able to publish this --- but you didn't hear a word about it until now, did you? So they obviously cooperate, even if they protest.
      However, this proves two things: The only way to screw with DOJ or AG, if you are so minded, is with a VERY good lawyer. And Germans Love David Hasselhoff.

    20. Re:What happens, when a gag order is violated? by allo · · Score: 1

      What a horror of a law :-(. No wonder, the USA cannot guarantee things like the safe harbor agreement.

  9. Re:The whole fucking thing is a SCAM, A CON! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 0

    Of course it is a con. He's doing the same thing Ross Perot did in 1992 -- running as a shock absorber for Republican disaffection to ensure the Democrat wins.

    Perot even dropped out the morning Clinton was to give his acceptance speech, saying it was good the Democratic Party was "reinvigorated". He later got back in to split the ticket just in case.

    Trump need not do this as he got the nom, though he threatened a 3rd party run. If he didn't. QED

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  10. Tax Relief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Companies that comply with secret government requests for information perform a free public service and should be eligible for commensurate tax advantages.

  11. You don't know? by waspleg · · Score: 2

    Then the witch hunt begins to ruin that persons life either financially (court, unemployable after), through jail time, or both.

    They *WILL* sacrifice someone innocent or not, nobody knows who did it isn't acceptable to the gov't.

    1. Re: You don't know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't put it past the Feds to use an event like that to investigate every employee. That way they can find all sorts of leverage on internal resources and make a few examples to insure future compliance.

  12. Anything by jarablue · · Score: 2

    So basically if you get caught shoplifting, they'll issue an NSL and target your entire family because er, shoplifting in itself is a national security issue? Where does the line get drawn? They can get whatever they want whenever they want and target you if some prosecutor is pissed? Must be nice for the laws to apply to the common peasants only. The lords and knights, aka cops, prosecutors and judges have different rules to play by right?

  13. I can't wait for Obama's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    When Bush is out of the White House, Obama - the Constitutional scholar who KNOWS what our rights are - will put a stop to this, just like he promised!

    With Hillary as her Secretary of State, we're set up for at least 16 years of a transparent government that actually respects us!

    And the corruption and sellouts to banksters will end!

    With Democrats set to take control of the House, Senate, and the White House - and in TOTAL control of the US government - I bet we even get a real health-care system instead of the current one we have, with skyrocketing insurance premiums designed to funnel money to insurance companies.

    WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT A DEMOCRAT?!?!?!

    1. Re:I can't wait for Obama's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Bush is out of the White House, Obama - the Constitutional scholar who KNOWS what our rights are - will put a stop to this, just like he promised!

      With Hillary as her Secretary of State, we're set up for at least 16 years of a transparent government that actually respects us!

      And the corruption and sellouts to banksters will end!

      With Democrats set to take control of the House, Senate, and the White House - and in TOTAL control of the US government - I bet we even get a real health-care system instead of the current one we have, with skyrocketing insurance premiums designed to funnel money to insurance companies.

      WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT A DEMOCRAT?!?!?!

      As if Regan, Bush and Bush's son epitomize credibility and didn't one actual traffic guns and drugs to fund rebels in a foreign state.

    2. Re:I can't wait for Obama's inauguration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As if Regan, Bush and Bush's son epitomize credibility and didn't one actual traffic guns and drugs to fund rebels in a foreign state.

      And Bush II shut it down - because it didn't work.

      Of course, given Obama's love for things that don't work/he can't do, like resetting relations with Russia and red lines in Syria, Obumbles restarted it.

      So now, you're going to vote for Crooked Liar Hillary!, because why? She has a vagina? You so sexist!

      Oh, yeah, here's a picture of Donald Trump grabbing a pussy.

    3. Re:I can't wait for Obama's inauguration by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I can't tell whether you're serious or not, and if you are, whether or not you're being sarcastic.

      The reason to vote Democrat is that the Republicans are even worse. If you're not in a swing state, you should probably vote 3rd party, but how sure you need to be that you aren't in a swing state depends on how much worse you think one candidate is than the other. And you need to do it in the certain knowledge that your 3rd party vote will not yield the candidate that will be elected...so if their platform wouldn't really work it doesn't matter.

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  14. Enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You must assume that anything and everything you do on a computer is visible to others. The old adage "if you don't want someone to read it then don't write it down" applies to the digital world. People need to wake up. The privacy ship sailed when the twin towers fell. We've long since opened Pandora's box. It's going to take a very long time to close it.

  15. you merkins better get your trampolines out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can't get a large project in on scghedule an dbudget - that doesnt benefit your corporations nor the government black funding.

  16. Transparency and Open Government by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the...
    Sure...you go with that thought process.

  17. If Hillary emails it, nothing; anyone else 3-5 yrs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet only 2 people ever actually SAW the letter. It is probably in a secure location - and perhaps those 2 googlers only got to read it before the FBI took it back.

    What happens if it is released without legal approval? Depends.
    If Hillary releases it via her email ... NOTHING.
    If someone else does, they probably go to jail for 3-5 yrs.

  18. Surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As Levar Levinston the founder of Lavabit said when closing down rather than comply with a security letter. You cannot trust companies with ties to the USA. Sad but true.