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Microsoft Shares Hit All-Time High As Company Strengthens Its Cloud Grip (usatoday.com)

Marco della Cava, reporting for USA Today: Microsoft shares surged 5% in early trading Friday, and passed a high set in 1999, helped by enthusiasm for progress in its cloud business. The stock was at up at $60.11, breezing past the $58.72 mark set in December 1999. Friday's rally follows Microsoft's latest quarterly report, out late Thursday, that beat analyst expectations for adjusted sales and profit and showcased a doubling of growth in its Azure cloud business, while reflecting continued strain from consumers' pivot away from PCs and traditional software purchases.Microsoft reported its Q1 2017 earnings yesterday, noting a revenue of $20.5 billion, which was higher than Wall Street's expectations. Company's Intellgent Cloud revenue was up 8 percent, whereas Azure revenue observed 116 percent growth year-on-year.

43 comments

  1. this can't be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did this happen? Everyone on Slashdot knows that Micro$oft is a dead worthless company that doesn't provide any value to anyone. Who needs cloud when I can host my own super awesome Linux box in my parent's basement? I guess Micro$oft managed to fool the stupid plebs in corporate IT.

    1. Re:this can't be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft + Apple = Linux always being a rounding error on the PC OS stage. The sad fact is that hobbyist operating systems are for exactly that: hobbyists. Anyone who operates in the business world requires a business operating system that is supported and accepted everywhere and Just Fucking Works without going into Bash and tweaking the config files or whatever the hell you need to do to get Linux to boot these days.

    2. Re:this can't be by ahabswhale · · Score: 2

      I hate to break it to you but Amazon still has a huge fucking lead on cloud market share. It's not even close.

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    3. Re:this can't be by JMZero · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ..and Amazon will likely retain its lead in supporting large and/or public facing websites.

      But there's a lot of businesses, usually non-IT focused ones, who will remain Microsoft shops. For them, hosting their internal, B2B, and smaller public applications on Azure makes a lot of sense, and it's going to be a growth area for MS for a while. Yes you can host your .NET applications lots of places, but all the Azure nonsense is baked into Visual Studio and so, to the extent it basically works, it's going to be the path of least resistance for a lot of people.

      In a lot of ways, MS is in a different market than other cloud vendors.

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    4. Re:this can't be by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      Fair point. I would expect most Microsoft shops to ultimately go with Azure for the reasons you outlined.

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    5. Re:this can't be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. I was thinking the same thing.

      "Why, Slashdot user SystemDSucks93 was just telling me the other day how irrelevant 'Mickey$oft' is and how nobody uses it and how they will be going out of business any day now and how 'Windows??! Lulz, like anyone uses that!'!"

      Sometimes it's cringy how full Slashdot is of out of touch tech dinosaur neckbeards.

    6. Re:this can't be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's nice to see you mistake the profitability of a company, with usability/fitness to purpose of its products. So you are saying cos they profitable, they aren't shit?

      Personally, i haven't seen anyone exclaiming "nobody uses microsoft!11". Lots of people use their shitty software. Lots of people hate using their shitty software. Therefore, it is not unreasonable to conclude that Microsoft make shit software. And what is wrong with a little bit of wishful thinking, ehehe. Tell me you never wished painful death upon the morons who wrote such gems as wow64 and OLE and MFC and activeX?

    7. Re:this can't be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, i haven't seen anyone exclaiming "nobody uses microsoft!11"

      Have you tried opening your eyes?

    8. Re:this can't be by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      For most people, the cloud offers convenience at the expense of a bunch of negatives that aren't immediately apparent to them, mostly relating to data security, data charges, and stability of software usability (ie unexpected workflow killing changes).

      The reality is that their personal data needs are meager enough not to warrant datacenter storage and processing. It's just that those who want to charge monthly fees for every little thing are trying to squeeze the market in that direction.

    9. Re:this can't be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Obviously, you've never had to deal with cleaning up after windows shits itself. Have fun with powershell..
      2. there's no such thing as a 'business operating system.'
      3. Linux runs most of the cloud and most people's PDAs.. that makes up the bulk of 'business' today.

    10. Re:this can't be by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      So what? There can be more than one winner in the cloud market. It's obvious Microsoft doesn't care about the Windows market anymore though, given that each release gets worse and worse.

  2. Rita Coolidge Rolling In Her Grave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's an all-time high! Eat weed!

  3. Yeesh... by HBI · · Score: 1

    Why does anyone care about revenue? I look at the operating income and both in cloud and in general, Microsoft is making considerably (several hundreds of millions) less this year on its services than the year before.

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    1. Re:Yeesh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you're investing, you (should) look at potential future revenue/profits.

    2. Re:Yeesh... by HBI · · Score: 1

      OK, agreed, but the operating income measure is far more predictive of profit, as it accounts for expenditures. My point being that maybe Azure is doing more now, but it must be costing more money too, otherwise why the dip in operating income?

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    3. Re:Yeesh... by Serge_Tomiko · · Score: 1

      Have you ever heard of a discounted cash flow?

      Azure is undoubtedly capital intensive.

    4. Re:Yeesh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Companies can often lower there expenditures by investing less in the future, etc. You can always spend more/less money. Making more money is harder. I think that's somewhat why they focus more on revenue. I'm not in finance or economics though, so..

    5. Re:Yeesh... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Because you don't invest in revenue of today. You invest in ideas of tomorrow.

      And cloud is a cool buzzword.

      I'm only half joking here. Those people who look at day to day revenue are not the ones who get wealthy investing. It's the risk takers who see the bigger picture that get wealthy or die trying.

    6. Re:Yeesh... by HBI · · Score: 1

      All of the long term wealthy people I know are in safe investments - mostly dividend paying stock issues and real estate.

      Gamblers play for growth because they have nothing really to lose.

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    7. Re: Yeesh... by cyber-vandal · · Score: 0

      They're opening new data centres all the time. I'd imagine those aren't free.

    8. Re:Yeesh... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      All of the long term wealthy people I know are in safe investments - mostly dividend paying stock issues and real estate.

      Gamblers play for growth because they have nothing really to lose.

      That's nice. Most of long term filthy stupidly wealthy people in the world are the opposite. They struck luck on a big investment that paid off, and had you bought MS shares last year you'd now be 30% richer and far richer than if you had put your money in an indexed fund.

  4. inflation index by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $58.72 in December 1999 = $85.09 in 2916 . . . All time high?

    1. Re:inflation index by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2016, damn keyboard.

    2. Re:inflation index by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't they do a 2-1 split in the mid 2000s? Where would you count that?

  5. Huh. by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    A fool and his money...

    1. Re:Huh. by chispito · · Score: 1

      A fool and his money...

      ...don't consider Microsoft products because of bias?

      That's where you were going with that, right?

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    2. Re:Huh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fool is the guy who thinks managing their own geo-replicated data centers, and hiring all the attendant IT specialists (SAN, networking, sysadmin, DBA, etc) is going to:
      A) Save them time
      B) Save them money
      C) Making them more secure
      D) Give them more availability and/or better RPO/RTO.

      Put that shit in PaaS and worry about your business.

    3. Re:Huh. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      In this case a pretty scamming pump up the stock price upon the back of http://www.afr.com/technology/... a 40 billion dollar stock buy back. That is 40 billion dollars fewer shares in the market on top of the impact of buying those shares. So completely bullshit story and as soon as I read it, I did a search for "microsoft stock buyback" because I just knew, so obvious and they also raised their dividend. So that price will drop real quick once the stock buyback runs out and the dividend has been paid.

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    4. Re:Huh. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      A fool and his money...

      Are easily multiplied.

      Was that what you were about to say? After all if you bought shares at the time where all the news articles were saying Windows 10 is a disaster with slow uptake, user hate, and malware you would have made a 35% ROI in just over a year. That's good money right there.

  6. Their stock has been split since 1999 right??? by acoustix · · Score: 2

    Didn't Microsoft split their stock in the early 2000's? If so, this article doesn't apply.

    Can we please get real reporting from real journalists?

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    1. Re:Their stock has been split since 1999 right??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, there was a 2:1 split on Feb 18, 2003. The article still applies, but it could be improved by saying that Microsoft's market cap hit an all-time high, to avoid any ambiguity between share price and split-adjusted share price.

    2. Re:Their stock has been split since 1999 right??? by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Yes. February 18, 2003 was the only split since their previous "high" Dec 23, 1999.

      I think as long as it's clear that previous stock prices and/or volume data have been adjusted for splits an "all time high" still is valid even if it's not technically the highest price it ever traded at.

    3. Re:Their stock has been split since 1999 right??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Butthurt?

  7. Leave the desktop alone by iampiti · · Score: 0

    Since the PC is dying (right?) and is gonna make them less and less money they could've left Windows alone. Instead of that they had to turn it into a smartphone OS: Constantly spying the user, pushing ads and services upon the user abd pushing towars touch-first UIs.
    They could've included the Win7 UI as a gesture to those of us who don't use our PC with a touchscreen.

  8. No, Thank You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At work I am forced to admin and use Microsoft's cloud offerings. We have moved EVERYTHING to the cloud except for set of servers for a proprietary service that has no cloud offering. I admin the Exchange, AD, SharePoint server, everything. We have a fat pipe and it's still slow. AWS still has the edge. I've tried convincing the powers that be that going this route is a matter of bad judgment. But like in the old days with IBM, no one got fired for buying Microsoft. I would have gone IBM and/or AWS in a heartbeat given the budget and latitude.

    Having been a mainframe and *nix admin for many years, I can tell you that while some think the "cloud" is analogous to the mainframe notion of old, this doesn't translate well, if at all. The cloud is distributed, most mainframe installs were local albeit networked within their own companies, even if the offices were remote. I far and away prefer working on mainframes and minis compared to today's stuff. Nothing extant today beats an IBM Z-Series mainframe. Nothing. For example of how awesome these things are, the country of Kenya runs their entire power company needs on two of these Z-Series mainframes. I know, I know... old school, old fart stuff. Boring. Not even. If I ever get the chance to work on, with, around mainframes again, I'm jumping at the chance. I dearly miss "the priesthood of the computer" days. Now? Not so much.

    1. Re: No, Thank You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you admin an Exchange server running in Azure, you are doing it very very wrong.

  9. Welcome to the rental economy by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can't buy your software anymore, you just rent it. That means you can't just pay once and do whatever you want with that license -- you keep paying, forever (way more than you would have under the old "buy a copy of version x" model) and, being that this software is constantly phoning home to Microsoft, can be changed, cut off, etc. at their whim (as well as more easily hacked / hijacked). Adobe, Intuit, and others of the old desktop software brigade are all moving to this model. It's great for them because of the recurring cash flow, but exactly what is the benefit for the end user besides promised "upgrades"? Do we really need another version of Word (God no -- quit changing it and forcing us to re-learn your shitty interface!)? Did Generally Accepted Accounting Principles change that much that a new major version of QuickBooks is required every year? This should be a huge slam dunk opportunity for the open source desktop software community.

    1. Re:Welcome to the rental economy by Voyager529 · · Score: 2

      I concur that the benefits of "upgrades" have been a matter of diminishing returns for quite some time now. Even if there's upgrades and features now, I worry that in five years from now, the real value will be "not losing access to your data".I share your staunch aversion to software subscriptions for that reason.

      The problem with relying on the Open Source community to fill the vacuum is that there are lots and lots of factors that are involved. People genuinely do appreciate and benefit from ubiquitous access to their data. That's certainly possible with a whole lot of self-hosted software, but those methods require back end resources, a firewall of consequence, backups, and an internet connection that not only has enough upload bandwidth to support these applications, but an internet connection that doesn't block ports 80 and 443. Here at Slashdot those things aren't a problem, and the Synology NAS units (as well as a few others) help to streamline these through things like QuickConnect, but now we've left OSS solutions.

      If we're looking at desktop applications, Quickbooks' greatest asset is the fact that every accounting firm will take a .QBW file, and any Main Street business owner can talk to any other Main Street business owner and probably find out how to do what they need to do. Meanwhile, virtually every OSS accounting package I've looked at has either had a Spartan UI, doesn't do payroll, is gross overkill, or is cloud-only...and all of them are double-entry. The closest I've found from a UI perspective is Xtuple, but its server requirements are insane compared to Quickbooks for a single-machine install. Thus, I submit that the reason why Intuit (whose level of evil in the software world is only eclipsed by Oracle) owns the small business accounting market is because there aren't any single entry OSS financial management applications at all...and with the exception of GNUcash, the only reason why there are the higher end OSS products is because all of their commercial packages have massive price tags attached to them that will rival Intuit's enterprise editions.

      On the creative software front, OSS is still very difficult to acclimate to. GIMP can generally do the job in spite of its suboptimal interface, Inkscape is limited but can do the basics well enough, and Scribus is in the uncanny valley between Publisher and InDesign. KDenLive isn't the worst thing ever, but video editing = patent encumbered formats = OSS license hell. Ardour and Audacity can do the job, but they definitely lack the polish of Audition. Honestly, the best competitor to Adobe is Corel, not Github.

      There are lots of places where OSS shines (pick just about anywhere in the server closet - you're crazy to run Windows Server as a router, but pfSense, Untangle, Smoothwall, Endian, ClearOS......). There are, however, going to be areas where OSS just will always play second fiddle to commercial software houses. As my very loose rule of thumb, I've found that the further away from programming a discipline is, the worse the OSS software packages are for it.

    2. Re:Welcome to the rental economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Give away your software and make money on support." Is not that the Slashdot religion? Well, that is a form of "renting" the software. OSS made it impossible to make money by sellng software directly, which we all demanded, so companies have no choice but to make money other ways, like renting or support contracts (which is the same damn thing). This is what we, OSS evangalists, created. We created this world where support contracts and renting are the only ways to make money in software.

  10. Microsoft spin hit all-time high .. by khz6955 · · Score: 1

    "Microsoft shares surged 5% in early trading Friday, and passed a high set in 1999"

    Do you mean Microsoft shares are back at 1999 prices.

    1. Re:Microsoft spin hit all-time high .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it split in 2003 so it's now worth twice as much as it was in 1999.
      100% growth in 17 years. 4.16% compounded. Meh. I don't know how much dividends they paid out in that time though.

  11. IT People, Esp. CIOs, read the Parent Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You got it in one, my friend. Nailed it.

    People are too blind or too apathetic to see this. I've been in IT for 3 decades and I can tell you that we are heading down a fairly dangerous path where no one controls their own data, where it's housed, who has access. Any of these companies could be severely compromised despite their promise of at-rest encryption, moving encryption, employee background checks. None of this matters a whit if you are not in control of your data 24/7/365.

    These cloud providers change software all the time. I've seen things break and cause companies great anguish. I'll work locally, backup locally, yet have a backup offsite in a location that I control. The butcher's bill for going all cloud is going to be very high one day.