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Microsoft Announces Paint 3D, the Biggest Update Ever To the Classic App (theverge.com)

Microsoft is releasing a revamped and modernized Paint app for Windows 10 that let people draw and convert things in 3D. The company announced the app at its keynote today where it stressed the future of making things in 3D. The Verge adds:Users can take photos and easy turn portions of the photo into 3D objects. Along with the app, users can also share work in a new community online that comes with a focus on Minecraft. People can directly export from the game and 3D print whatever they make. The new version of the Paint app was put online earlier this month and available for anyone to download. The app is a Universal Windows app that comes with pen and touch-friendly features, as well as support for 3D objects. The new app stays true to the original Paint app in that it's a basic editing and creating app but with some added 3D effects.

89 comments

  1. About time! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The first version is from 1985... so for 30 years MS paint has been this nauseously crappy application. About time!

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    1. Re:About time! by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, Microsoft did try to take a stab at Photoshop back in 1998-1999 or so, using (IIRC) the same name - "Paint 3D". They included an application CDs in their TechNet subscription packages for awhile; it stopped showing up in 2000-ish.

      The interface blew goats, it was slow and occasionally quite buggy (at least on NT 4), but it did have some ideas in it worth exploring; I think it most likely died a quiet death due to the monopoly lawsuit...

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    2. Re: About time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Crappy maybe. Useful for dick pics. I love this app, I use to trace pictures of cars downloaded from AOL and change the colors on them.

    3. Re:About time! by AnAirMagic · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They also bought ImageComposer, which was a really powerful piece of image editing software with a (deceptively simple) UI that made it look like paint.

  2. Not really new, folks... by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Microsoft could have saved themselves some coding time by going into Corel's Graveyard and buying the source for Canoma (originally made by the same folks who made Poser and Bryce, so the codebase is more than a little yucky and tangled, but still...)

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    1. Re:Not really new, folks... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      I thought Corel picked up Paint Shop Pro too. (I still installed/used PSP v6.2 on most of my personal machines until Paint.NET came along - that one copy I bought in the early 2000's has been a great value!)

    2. Re:Not really new, folks... by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      They did (they picked up a *lot* of stuff...) I did find out they sold Canoma to Adobe sometime in the past decade, though. Learn something new every day.

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    3. Re:Not really new, folks... by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      Ah, man, I miss Bryce. I played with that program for endless hours in college, and made what at the time seemed like amazing images of things I couldn't have ever drawn on my own.

      Actually, I've still got some of that stuff online:
      http://quirkz.com/art.php

      It's dated now, but in '97 it seemed relatively impressive.

    4. Re: Not really new, folks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same, I spent hours rendering 3D pics in Bryce3D and in Poser. Fun times. I even created a scene one time of a flowing waterfall. That took forever to render on an old IBM Aptiva 200mhz PC.

    5. Re:Not really new, folks... by nmb3000 · · Score: 1

      Nice. I spent many hours messing around with POV-Ray on my old 400 Mhz Pentium II (and many more hours waiting for scenes to render...). Sadly I lost everything from that period when the drive crashed.

      It's fun to look at mid-90's computer generated images and see how much has changed. I went through a folder of old Digital Blaspheme wallpapers (remember those?) a while back and they just look so quaint now.

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    6. Re:Not really new, folks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, man, I miss Bryce. I played with that program for endless hours in college, and made what at the time seemed like amazing images of things I couldn't have ever drawn on my own.

      Actually, I've still got some of that stuff online:
      http://quirkz.com/art.php

      It's dated now, but in '97 it seemed relatively impressive.

      The link to your Cemetery pic is broken; here's the corrected link:
        http://quirkz.com/creative/st_cemetery.php

      Cool art, by the way! I quite like Welcome Screen, Ice, and Rainbow. :)

  3. can't spell Paint without pain by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    kudos to Microsoft for forging ahead into the brave new world of crappy homemade VR!

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    1. Re:can't spell Paint without pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because for generations, consumers had SUCH non-crappy VR available.

      Gotta crawl before you can walk.

  4. 3d print from minecraft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    the dot matrix printing of the 21st century.

  5. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    But like always, it's not worth downgrading to windows10 to use it.

    Also if it's anything like the time they 'improved' paint with the ribbon interface, I don't have high hopes.

  6. And why are they doing that after all this time..? by evolutionary · · Score: 2, Interesting

    MS is funny. That application has been so outdated compared to half a dozen open source apps or even relatively simple javascript apps, it was embarrassing. I went to GIMP/GIMPshop awhile back. If they had done this 10 years ago, I might have been impressed. Now, I'll stick to my GIMP or perhaps Blender if I want serious 3D "painting". (A 7 year old taught himself to use this program a couple years ago, he'll never go to MS Paint again. LOL)

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  7. Would prefer a seperate app by ninthbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Give paint all the crap you want, but for the most basic and quick stuff, it got the job done. I would have preferred them do the notepad/wordpad thing and had the "advanced" version be a separate app. Knowing the them, the bloated version will take forever to load as it pulls in 3d libraries and a horde of other garbage inheritance/dependencies.

    1. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      Ugh. No, no it does not.

      Okay, that's probably the artist in me talking, but seriously - outside of some really non-professional home stuff (or the occasional semi-dank meme that makes fun of childish actions), MS Paint falls way, way, way short for illustration. No, really... I'd rather masturbate with a handful of glass shards than use MS Paint for *anything* work-related... and no, I'm not a professional artist.

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    2. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YEP! Remember the introduction of the 'new & improved' MS Picture Editor, or integration with Office or whatever that abomination was called?

      Where you can take out red-eye, balance out photos, adjust hue & contrast, etc? Yeah how'd that work out? People used superior image editors over that, et retained preference for Paint when doing quick/crude crops or text captions.

      Paint should be left alone.

    3. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by Korbeau · · Score: 1

      > outside of some really non-professional home stuff

      Who do you think Paint target audience is?

      I think paint is quite effective for most Windows "household tasks" (converting images, cropping, resizing, writing annotations, combining, saving screenshots etc.)

      I've used GIMP and Photoshop enough to know my way around but I've never been an expert. And opening GIMP for most of the tasks listed above is just troublesome (very long load time, bloated UI).

      > MS Paint falls way, way, way short for illustration

      Of course! That I will not deny.

    4. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by SirSlud · · Score: 1

      That's literally the point. To go from screen-cap + crop + text -> image with no asthetic requirements, mspaint is great

      It's useful for extremely simple stuff. I work with professional (video game) artists, and they use it all the time for quick and dirty internal screen cap, joke, or congrats type emails, etc.

      It's frequently the right tool for the right job.

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    5. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      "Who do you think Paint target audience is?"

      I think you're over thinking it.

    6. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by MountainLogic · · Score: 1

      Just hope I can still get "genuine" MS paint and not have to live with the bloat ware

    7. Re:Would prefer a seperate app by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Agree with the others - nobody suggested using paint for illustration. I work in television graphics and have to do stuff like grab a screen shot, crop it, and send it to clients. Running photoshop or GIMP for that is like running Visual Studio or eclipse to write a 3 line batch file.

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    8. Re: Would prefer a seperate app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though paint REALLY needs to handle transparency properly. I do a lot of icon compositing and go to GIMP only because it has transparency. Layers are also helpful in GIMP, but I could let that slide for the load speed of Paint.

  8. Nadella knows! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm glad Microsoft finally put someone in charge that knows what people really want. Do people want proper patch testing, privacy or improved security? NO! People want a better version of MSPaint! Let's hear it for Nadella! ;)

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    1. Re:Nadella knows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has courage!

    2. Re:Nadella knows! by bfpierce · · Score: 1

      Yeah I mean, there's only one team of engineers working for Microsoft.

      They're struggling so much staffing they often times pull the guys/gals working on their backend security over to work on paint.

    3. Re:Nadella knows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised they made it available for anyone to download. Why do they force me to go through hoops? If this is an update to MSPaint, then they are supposed to shove it down people's throats through Windows 10 automatic updates. Someone didn't get the memo.

    4. Re:Nadella knows! by decipher_saint · · Score: 1

      MS Paint is perfect as is, just some people know how to use it better than others https://youtu.be/v2g5qbvb7F4 :-)

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    5. Re:Nadella knows! by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Makes me just want to run out and restore a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air with nothing more than a Philips screwdriver, three rolls of duct tape, and a wad of used chewing gum... :/

      (Okay, props to the dude and all, but damn.)

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    6. Re:Nadella knows! by MountainLogic · · Score: 1

      Never worked on a '57 Chevy, but I suspect you may need to downgrade your tool chain to a flat blade.

    7. Re:Nadella knows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MacGyver is on Slashdot?!?

    8. Re:Nadella knows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False dichotomy / whynotboth.jpg / you're an idiot.

    9. Re:Nadella knows! by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      They're struggling so much staffing they often times pull the guys/gals working on their backend security over to work on paint.

      I think you have that backwards that should read:

      They're struggling so much staffing they often times pull the guys/gals working on paint over to work on their backend security.

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  9. That's great by DrXym · · Score: 2, Informative
    Now how about updating notepad, fax & scan, regedit, msconfig, et al. Some of these tools which are still necessary in Windows are positively arcane and have barely changed in years. Notepad in particular is so antiquated it can't even convert line endings. Tools like fax & scan is riddled with usability issues.

    But hey we have some crappy 3d painting functionality in MS Paint! Hooray?

    1. Re:That's great by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      Heh, even the "edit" command in later versions of MS-DOS could handle line endings correctly when Notepad could not. (It was a pain to navigate the Windows directory structure in an 80-column screen though.) Notepad was so bad, I would sometimes have to open a DOS box just to use its editor. I am sure there is a joke about the "edlin" command here, but that's not funny!

    2. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >...it can't even convert ...
          That's why it should NOT be changed. You have plenty of nice dedicated text editors to choose from . Choose one.

      Notepad's greatest character trait is its ability to be simple text. Consider this:
      - Have you ever needed to copy some text from a webpage, email, document, etc and then paste it into another app- only to discover the copied text migrated over with its original formatting, colors, hyperlinks, size, etc? I do every day and it's a real pain, yep.
      - Use Notepad to copy into & out of to sterilize the text. Upon pasting it into another app, it will be in the document's existing formatting.

      How about fixing MS Word. That is a travesty in text formatting.

      And the should make a separate app, not improve Paint. For very similar reasons as above. As a simple image manipulator, its inabilities are actually assets to be treasured.

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    3. Re:That's great by mccalli · · Score: 1

      That's not what's meant - we're talking CRLF vs just CR, not all the rich text stuff.

    4. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I can envision Regedit3D, where in order to edit a setting, you first fly in spaceship down some branching tunnels, Descent-style, to get to the right subtree. The malware settings are the enemy drones and to delete a tree you set off a nuke!

    5. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's why the previous post is spot on. Sometimes you do not want *any* intelligence at all. Notepad is one of the few tools on Windows that does one thing perfectly. It lets you edit plain text in WYSIWYG. If anything should do automatic CrLf conversion etc. then that should be left to another tool such as Wordpad or a third party editor (notepad++).

      Notepad's greatest strength is that it does absolutely nothing in the way of formatting or conversion.

      If you've got mixed CrLf, Lf or Cr line feeds sort them out with a different editor. Notepad should absolutely not do this for you.

    6. Re:That's great by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Does Regedit really need an update? Why? Please don't tell me it need a "modern" UI

    7. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please do not give the Millenials any more shite UI ideas.

    8. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now how about updating notepad, fax & scan, regedit, msconfig, et al. Some of these tools which are still necessary in Windows are positively arcane and have barely changed in years. Notepad in particular is so antiquated it can't even convert line endings. Tools like fax & scan is riddled with usability issues.
      But hey we have some crappy 3d painting functionality in MS Paint! Hooray?

      Ironically, this is exactly why I like notepad. It's a quick, simple way to see the text without the program trying to be too clever and guess what I want (this is a .xml file, you clearly must want me to hide this other stuff!) or whatever. Do one thing, do it (semi-)well, and let me chain it together to get my work done.

      So are you complaining that Notepad is too Unix-like philosophy, or are you complaining that it hasn't kept up with the times? Maybe adding ribbons, making the UI more like Chrome, or throwing some JavaScript on it to host it on the cloud would be better? As I recall, those UI changes were very lauded by Slashdot.

    9. Re: That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait! I know this! It's a Wineows 10 system!

    10. Re:That's great by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      Notepad's primary technical failure is that it uses a very simple memory buffer of the file contents. This is why it's dog slow to load a large file. Other editors only load the parts of the file being looked at, which reduces memory use and gives the impression that the file has been loaded much faster.

    11. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Edited is my personal favorite.

    12. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Edited is my personal favorite.

      Editpad. F-ing autocorrect! Combined with stupid "smartphone" that made it hard to read the preview. Combined with stupid user that trusted the stupid phone. *sigh*

    13. Re:That's great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did get a update, it now has a address bar, it replaced the statusbar. It also got a couple of new menu items. There is/was an app called RegeditX that does the same on older versions.

    14. Re:That's great by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I think that's still the point people are making - you don't write a 10k line novel in notepad, you cut and paste things to lose the formatting, or you write 10 line batch files. It's great to have something so simple sometimes.

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    15. Re:That's great by NotAPK · · Score: 1

      Sure, but if all I want to do is read the first few bytes of a 1GB file then Notepad chokes, while other file viewers manage this without issue.

    16. Re:That's great by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Notepad is greatest for nothing whatsoever. It is a crap editor by any reasonable definition. Given how many files such as readmes, config files that have Unix line endings, it would be nice if Microsoft lifted a finger and made the trivial changes necessary to open and save these files properly. Other things that would be useful would be in/outdenting selected text, UTF-8/UTF-16 conversion, some config settings to control indentation tab / space behaviour, being able to "save as" a file without it tacking .txt on the end, and a few other minor improvements. Nothing that would take a few developers more than a month to implement.

      And yeah you can replace it for something else but that excuse Notepad for being so terrible in the first place. Seriously. Open Notepad.exe in Windows 3.1 and aside from wide character support and some minor differences it's the exact same thing.

      The other tools I singled out which are in Windows are antiquated too. I expect anyone who has to use them on a regular basis could think of 10 or so often minor or modest changes that would make them substantially better.

    17. Re:That's great by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Off the top of my head, here are some ways it could be improved:

      Why can't it grey out the options I don't have permission to modify or at least show an icon in a column which indicates read-only?

      In sections such as HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT why can't I click on a file extension and have a summary of what process opens that file, what shell extensions are associated with it and so on. Why can't I click on an interface IID and see what DLL or EXE hosts it and also what objects interfaces are by the same binary. Why can't I deregister the DLL from the editor. Separate tools like OLE view are necessary for this but they could be incorporated into regedit.

      Why won't Regedit help with all the bullshit introduced with Wow6432 where chunks of the registry are in different places thanks to various 32-bit and 64-bit differences? e.g. maybe let me flip from 32-bit to 64-bit view or show both together in separate panels where I can see the information in one place.

      Why can't I live monitor changing values in the registry? Why can't I snapshot the registry and observe what values have changed since the last snapshot?

      Why can't I right mouse on a REG_SZ holding a path in the registry and choose "Explore to here"?

      Why can't I import / export bits of the tree using the clipboard instead of via files?

      Some changes are more modest than others. I'm sure people who spend their life in this tool could think of other ways. The point is that for all the effort has put into the front end of Windows, they're barely lifted a finger to improve the lower level stuff.

    18. Re:That's great by DrXym · · Score: 1

      So are you complaining that Notepad is too Unix-like philosophy, or are you complaining that it hasn't kept up with the times? Maybe adding ribbons, making the UI more like Chrome, or throwing some JavaScript on it to host it on the cloud would be better? As I recall, those UI changes were very lauded by Slashdot.

      I'm complaining it is not fit for purpose in any sense. It can't even open some random README that comes with a product because it might have Unix style line endings. It would be a relatively trivial option to detect the line ending style when opening a file and correctly render and save back to it. It doesn't even do that.

  10. PHOTOSHOP! Look out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will make Adobe madder than hell. First, Silverlight stomped Flash, now this!

  11. MS Paint XP by Topwiz · · Score: 2

    I have been using MS Paint XP on Windows 10 and it works great. http://www.mspaintxp.com/

  12. Useless by SeriousTube · · Score: 2

    Great. They add in some 3d stuff but you can't even do basic things like make a selection.

  13. Why do this? by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ugh. Is it as good as Paint.net? If I want to do real work, I use Gimp or Photoshop. If its minor / quick, I use paint.net. That's been my go-to for years. I really, really don't think that they should be doing a 3D app until they get 2D right. Looking at the demo video, this latest iteration reminds me of TuxPaint!

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    1. Re:Why do this? by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      http://www.warrenpaint.com/ind... (ie what you get if you enter paint.net) is going to get slashdotted.

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    2. Re:Why do this? by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      To be clear, the correct url is http://www.getpaint.net/index....

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  14. MacOS Preview by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    MacOS has a much better program than Paint 3D for doing this type of stuff. It's called Preview. .. ....

    OK fine. I lied. Preview sucks you can't even draw properly in it. Why the F doesn't MacOS come with a Paint program??

    1. Re:MacOS Preview by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Most likely because, traditionally, Macs are used by graphic artist types who already have near-literal arsenals of graphics/CG applications. Even though I only do grpahics/art for fun, my own Mac has GIMP, DAZ Studio, Maya, Carrara, Modo, Poser, and a zillion smaller applications that support all of those (Iray, Reality, LuxRender, UV Mapping utilities, various image/video viewers, etc). Pretty certain that the pros have way more stuff installed, and they installed them the same day they unboxed the computer.

      A simple paint-type program would just sit around useless, yanno?

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    2. Re:MacOS Preview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most likely because, traditionally, Macs are used by graphic artist types who already have near-literal arsenals of graphics/CG applications.

      Thank goodness; who knows what they'd do with a figurative arsenal of them?

  15. 3D big in Japan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder how does this Microsoft offering compare to MMD or CM-3D Second Edition? MMD even has Kinect integration.

  16. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you're right on the 3d front - but i do often wish Paint would have just a BIT more basic functionality when i'm on a windows box as it's the out of the box application on all windows installs.

    Similarly, I wish notepad would become notepad++ on every windows box.

    Obviously if you're doing real things, Blender/Gimp are not even in the same league. Or the same game.

  17. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can't help but wonder if they didn't feel like messing with Adobe's lawyers. It was bad enough when the whole Netscape/IE thing got them in trouble. So if they went through all the trouble of making something close to Photoshop in terms of capability, they'd just be spending a lot of money to lure a market that's dominated by Mac weenies, and then Adobe sues them. Classic case of a big company not being able to innovate for various reasons. The authors of GIMP aren't worth suing, and small shops can't bring the firepower to bear to un-seat Photoshop. So we're left with what we've got. That's my $0.02 anyway.

  18. They should credit Takeo Igarashi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is based on the work by Takeo Igarashi more than 10 years ago. A little late to the show Microsoft...At least they could credit him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2H35SlLmUA

  19. NOOOO!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring back the old paint!

  20. Pokey in 3D by vittal · · Score: 1

    Awesome - I await POKEY THE PENGUIN in 3D!

  21. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The advantage of paint is that it starts up almost instantly and the basic functionality works fine. Eg cropping, erasing sections, resizing, recolouring etc work fine.

  22. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed, it would nice if they updated notepad a bit but outdated apps do allow competitors a chance to compete, eg notepad++

  23. most interesting ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, that's actually the most interesting story on /. for the last couple of months .. !!

  24. Years ago 3d from photos by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    when I bought this book https://www.amazon.com/Teach-Y... I believe the cd contains a program that could turn part of a photo like a building into a 3d object.

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  25. Most important of all by iampiti · · Score: 1

    Does it have an UI fit for a desktop PC used with mouse and keyboard? Or is this one of this newfangled mobile-like apps that forces a horrid touch UI on desktop users?

  26. Wow! It's regular M$ Day here, isn't it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lovefest just continues all day long!

    I especially treasure the first M$ story following this, which also mentions in the introduction *gasp* Paint 3D!

    If you have a pulse, boycott this company, now.

  27. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blender is actually pretty good, being that it was originally commercial software. GIMP, on the other hand, is a piece of fucking garbage inside and out. Not just the god-awful UI or lack of basic functionality like adjustment/style layers and script-free automation. It's the slowest graphics program on the face of the earth. Slow at everything from applying even the most basic filters (Gaussian blur) to even using undo feature. And to top it all off, a complete lack of GUI acceleration.

  28. Fix your 2D first, MS. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    GIMP is overkill for simple stuff: takes too long to load, its menus are too big/deep, and its defaults are set for giant images, not regular. (GIMP's defaults suck for lots of things, now that I think of it.)

    For quicky web prep, often I need basic things like contrast, darken/lighten (alpha), tint, overall blur/sharpen, and spot blur/sharpen. If MS-Paint added those to its existing features, I'd need GIMP less than 5% of the time.

    1. Re:Fix your 2D first, MS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For simple stuff like that, use paint.net

    2. Re:Fix your 2D first, MS. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I tried to install Paint.net a few years ago and it locked up File Explorer. I had to uninstall it to get FS back to normal.

    3. Re:Fix your 2D first, MS. by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Ok, but what do you think this new paint will be like when they add all the features? It'll have big/deep menus and a lot of UI clutter in order to squeeze all the controls in, and it'll take just as long to load as GIMP does. I use paint when I need to do something like take a screenshot and crop it; it's simple and easy. I'm not nay-saying this new paint 3d program, but I imagine it'll be as complex as GIMP. Still not difficult to paste and crop an image, but just as long to load and do what I want as GIMP. It'll be nice to have something on every box by default, though.

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  29. Universal Windows app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no thanks. i'm not linking windows to a microsoft account or signing-in to the "store" just to use a fucking paint app.

  30. Re:PHOTOSHOP! Look out! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Silverlight stomped Flash

    In the same universe where Spock has a beard, maybe.

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  31. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by NotAPK · · Score: 2

    Paint.NET is to Paint as Notepad++ is to Notepad.

  32. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by NotAPK · · Score: 1

    Don't think for one second that Microsoft gives two shits about developers and their software.

  33. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

    And GIMP is to Paint, as Edlin is to Notepad.

  34. It's no TiltBrush by SolemnLord · · Score: 1

    Microsoft was pushing AR/VR today, and while Paint 3D is going to be a quick-and-dirty toy in the same way MS Paint is, I'm wondering if it'll have actual VR, TiltBrush-style functionality. When I had a chance to demo a Vive, TiltBrush was one of the apps I tried, and it immediately became a killer app.

    Which is something MS is going to need if they want to sell those 300$ headsets.

  35. Bloat 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks gad awful.

    People used MS Paint because it was simple with no fancy crap. This 3D junk is just bloatware.

  36. Re:And why are they doing that after all this time by gfxguy · · Score: 1

    Me, too. If I have to do a lot of work on images, or anything remotely complicated, I install something else, but when I need to take a screenshot and crop it, I can be done in paint before GIMP finishes loading. OK, not quite, but yes, for something like that it's simple and fast.

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    Stupid sexy Flanders.