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Facebook Deletes Music Piracy Groups Following Complaints (torrentfreak.com)

Back in the early days of the internet, users would post links to pirated content on dedicated file-sharing sites. But that trend has died down significantly over the past several years in favor of social media and sites like Reddit. Facebook is one of the sites that has been under pressure from the entertainment industry about taking action against piracy, and they are complying. According to anti-piracy outfit BREIN, the company responded by deleting nine "pirate" groups complained about by the entertainment industry. TorrentFreak reports: "Links to infringing files hosted on cloud services were indexed on the pages. Knowingly posting links to infringing files is itself a violation," BREIN says. After being contacted by BREIN, Facebook responded by deleting all nine 'pirate' groups. However, this wasn't the first time the social network has taken this kind of action. BREIN says that earlier this year Facebook removed a number of similar groups following complaints of infringement. But while shutting down 'pirate' groups will have some short-term effect, the people that were participating in them are likely to regroup and set up elsewhere. Of course, BREIN can follow them to their new homes but it's also aware of the value of targeting individuals. "The posters of the infringing links are also often the illegal uploader of unauthorized files [on cyberlocker sites]," BREIN says, adding that in some circumstances it will seek to hold those people responsible for their actions.

26 comments

  1. BREIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am still waiting till some hackers/hacker group tracks down/proves all the illegal music, movies, software that is downloaded by people working for brein (or your countries equivalent), their family or any other people associated with them.

    I suggest an anti-brein organisation doing the same thing they do, but targeting only those people. Plus all the law makers and judges involved (and their families, etc...)

    What are the chances their clean. Probably 0.

    1. Re:BREIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would such organisation BREIN-BREIN.

    2. Re: BREIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be naive. Rules are not for them.

    3. Re: BREIN by lxs · · Score: 1

      They are not the fucking Illuminati.They are just a bunch of sad shits who are shunned at family gatherings.
      Don't attribute powers to them that they don't have.

    4. Re: BREIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhm. Illuminati, or Occulists or whatever, were a fairly sad bunch of shits, as you put it. I think GP meant, that since these faggots are under the delusion that they are enforcing some ruleset, the other delusion this type of authoritarian faggot has is that ruleset they enforce does not apply to them.

      Which i agree with completely. Pathetic subhumanoids.

  2. That sure showed them by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Take that! No more internet for you! Wait what?

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  3. Test by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

    It would be interesting to test what BREIN is doing. Are they just looking at link names or are they actually running the files through a checker. I wonder what would happen if someone put up a list of links that weren't valid but had valid song names, with the artist name in it too, in a made up piracy group. Have the host of the links be 127.0.0.1. If it does get deleted then see what Facebook says and go public.

    1. Re:Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it will be deleted. No doubt at all. No one checks anything as it all keyword scanners. Been proven time and time again by news articles on TorrentFreak

  4. Meanwhile ... by troll+-1 · · Score: 1

    The best links are hosted by google. Try searching star trek beyond filetype:torrent for example.

    1. Re:Meanwhile ... by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      Don't forget to scroll to the bottom and open up the Lumen complaints! Those have some really nice juicy links, pre-vetted by the copyright holders.

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    2. Re:Meanwhile ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did that on the star trek beyond torrent because i didnt know they actually showed links. and it sends me to a list of zoolander torrents. dont think ill ever bother clicking those again

    3. Re:Meanwhile ... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      It's mixed with all of the links that were reported at one time. Chances are pretty good that there were Star Trek links in the same document.

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  5. Back in the day we use to run PWS by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    and ftp servers on 14.4 modems and we liked. We also used a file splitter and would carry around large downloads on tens of floppies then splice them back together. Oh did I mention IRC?

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    1. Re:Back in the day we use to run PWS by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Oh did I mention IRC?

      XDCC bots are still there and work great.

  6. Politically standing, I'm all for the Internet bei by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Society would just have to find new ways to make new content whether raw passion, new ways of monetizing, or crowd sourcing. The enormous intellectual and cultural gain of having every media available for free would be tremendous for a better educated population. I have no problems with piracy except its against the law. I feel like pirates may help bring civilization into a better world.

  7. Reddit = Piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why doesn't BREIN contact Reddit? They got tons of piracy threads. They don't give a damn about infringement.

    1. Re:Reddit = Piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Low-hanging fruit, prove to some boss or client "we're doing stuff that helps society!"

      They're doing stuff that lines their pockets with BREIN fees, business as usual. There has yet to be one recorded instance of noble infringement "protection" overtures being anything but money grab.

  8. Definitions differ by jrumney · · Score: 1

    Back in the early days of the internet, users would post links to pirated content on dedicated file-sharing sites.

    I'm not sure what the disconnect is, but the submitter seems to be using different definitions of some words than I am used to.

    Is alt.binaries.warez a dedicated file-sharing site? Or is 2000 (when the first filelocker sites started appearing) considered the early days of the internet?

    1. Re:Definitions differ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got to download and sample so much new music from alt.binaries.mp3 groups in the '90's. I was exposed to types of music I would never learn about otherwise. These media companies aren't just about 'defending' their copyrights, they don't want people to have the choices outside of their marketing machine.

      In any event, I'm pretty sure the author is too young and/or ignorant to remember Usenet.

    2. Re:Definitions differ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BREIN isnt a media company. BREIN is a dutch anti-piracy lobby created only to kill and mess with illegal downloads in the netherlands.
      They even run their own torrent nodes with fake torrents etc. that how they know who to get affter.

  9. The usual lies of Tim Kuik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy has been telling lies for quite a while, and he keeps continuing it.

    BREIN chief Tim Kuik says there are now plenty of affordable legal alternatives but choosing the unauthorized route could prove costly.

    Nope. In fact HBO completely stopped doing business in the Netherlands. No more HBO or HBO Go. HBO Go was also only available via your cable provider. There is also no Amazon Prime. The only viable movie streaming services currently in existence are: Netflix (with only 30% of US library), and VideoLand (which only contains the absolute shit made in the Netherlands).
    For (rather expensive) renting there is Google Play, Apple iTunes, and again VideoLand (and Steam, but that hardly has any content). Available content is also rather limited compared to what other countries have. And in most cases you need specialized hardware to consume this media in your living room.

    Music is quite a bit better

    “Illegally offering free links and files causes damage to authors, rights holders and legal online services. They should realize that this can be expensive,” Kuik says.

    This is unproven, and also partially false. Authors generally don't see a dine after their initial payment for the work. The rights holders, who are usually not the authors/peformers/etc. might loose intentional income. There is no proof of actual damage. Many studies have shown that consumers of illegally distributed content are also the highest consumers of legally distributed content.

    1. Re:The usual lies of Tim Kuik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well - I do not care about that guy anyway...

      Simply because I outright refuse to buy music any longer from all artist that are associated with this idiots. I only download music from artists that release under CC, and if I like their music I even pay them for a complete album. I only pay people that deserved to be payed (in my opinion), and that are not people that are in any way associated with BREIN and all those shady stuff (you know they do not even require to give any insight in how their collected money is spend).

      You can argue that it is a narrow choice, but I really found lots of great music that's completely and legally free. Yes - they are no "big" names, but I noticed that there is a LOT more creativity amongst those artist that are not bound by music labels and greedy producers. They are free to do anything that flows out of their creative minds. Do not forget that nowadays you can build a complete small recording studio for a fraction of the money those "big" ones cost to build. All you need are some knowledgeable people that like to do that in their spare time, and gather some money together to build a computer based DAW (you can even use semi-free software like ADOUR).

      So - I give the big music labels my big fat middle finger, and if I spend money on those that really deserve it...

  10. Knowingly posting links to infringing files is its by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what about Madonnas famous "F*%k you" mp3 from the napster days?

    She/her lackeys created a file named as if it was the stars latest output and uploaded it to various MP3 sharing sites.

    Anyone downloading it expected that song not a foul mouthed rant about piracy.

    So if you today now link to "site/file-name-claiming-to-be-latest-blockbuster" but you have not downloaded said file and confirmed it is a copyrighted work then you are not infringing because there is a non 0 chance that it is a non infringing work, just a with a recognisable name.

    And if you are going down that route the 1) if you had downloaded and verified the file contents there is no reason it could not have been replaced, a URL with a filename in it is not an actual file, its just a request. 2) setup all the infringing works with filenames so common that there is no direct correlation with their contents.

    I remember having this conversation with people pre 2000. A URL is a request, no reason you should expect a page or a file to be returned to you, best example being the online coffee pot at the time.

  11. Censorship by uncoveror · · Score: 1

    Locking up ideas as property is no less a form of censorship than trying to suppress them, and shutting down groups chatting about file sharing is suppression of ideas. Copyright is an idea whose time has passed. They will just find another place to meet online beside Facebook, which no one should be using anyway. It exists solely to datamine people and sell info to advertisers.

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