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Debian GNU/Linux 9 'Stretch' Installer Gets GNU Screen, Linux Kernel 4.7 Support (softpedia.com)
"Debian developer Cyril Brulebois was pleased to announce this past weekend the release and immediate availability of the eighth Alpha development snapshot of the Debian GNU/Linux 9 'Stretch' installer," reports Softpedia. An anonymous reader quotes their article: It's been four long months since Alpha 7 of Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" hit the testing channels back in July, but the wait was worth it as the Alpha 8 release adds a huge number of changes, starting with initial support for the GNU Screen terminal multiplexer and lots of debootstrap fixes, which now defaults to merged-/usr.
"debootstrap now defaults to merged-/usr, that is with /bin, /sbin, /lib* being symlinks to their counterpart in /usr (more details on: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html)," wrote Cyril Brulebois in the mailing list announcement, where it states that default debootstrap mirror was switched to deb.debian.org.
"debootstrap now defaults to merged-/usr, that is with /bin, /sbin, /lib* being symlinks to their counterpart in /usr (more details on: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html)," wrote Cyril Brulebois in the mailing list announcement, where it states that default debootstrap mirror was switched to deb.debian.org.
Seems like EditorDavid isn't actually a real editor in any sense of the word. You see, a real editor would have taken one look at this submission and said, "What a minute... these 3 disconnected paragraphs don't make it clear what 'Stretch' is or why an 8th alpha release is special enough to warrant a post on Slashdot. This was clearly written by someone who may or may not understand the subject well, but doesn't know how to accurately and concisely communicate that knowledge to others. This isn't fit to post."
Thanks but no.
Why am I interested in alpha build software? In the alpha stages you're lucky it even boots. They now support "screen"? Gee I've been using that for over two decades now. What next, color framebuffer and gopher support?
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All binary & lib dirs linked in /usr ? /usr existed in the 1st place ?
That's incredibly STUPID
Don't they know why
Story time:
Back in the days when today's grumpy old beardy Unix Admins were young PFYs, the Unix operating system and it's ilk were gaining more and more libraries and utilities. /usr, and all the binaries and libraries not needed to boot the system into multiuser were moved from /bin, /sbin & /lib into /usr/bin, /usr/sbin & /usr/lib. /usr (as read-only) to all of them. New software needed on all workstations ? Just put-it on the shared /usr
Unfortunately the hard drives at the time were very small so / was running out of space. Thus a new hard-drive was mounted at
This also allowed universities to have labs full of workstations with very small and cheap HDDs and NFS-mount a single
So:
Those days we have large enough storage devices for huge / partitions and cheap enough that we don't need to NFS-mount them on lots of computers.
If you don't want to have binaries & libraries separated into / and /usr/ JUST PUT EVERYTHING IN / DAMMIT !
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screen? meh. tmux is better
Do all the news headlines about Debian boil down to ... screen?
Do they know abut byobu and tmux?
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
One week after I installed with debootstrap because the old kernel and installer didn't work for me. It was a pain in the ass.
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I understand that this is simply the installer, but the 4.7.x Kernel recently went EoL ...
https://www.kernel.org/.
-- kjh
Having seperate /usr and /var on linux has been broken for DECADES. While you can manually add them if you are using the installer, most distros by default just install to a single / partition and call it a day. I personally stopped seperating them almost 2 decades ago because linux distros were bloating up so rapidly that accurately determining how big each partition should be was a lesson in futility. Just when you thought you had them sized right, oops! new app needs 10x the space in /var as you expected. Oh no, new datafiles for y app go in /usr/share. Oh no, gnu is now installed info files as mandatory and they take up 5x as much space as the manpages!
As dumb as it is often considered, Windows having the primary drive unseperated often makes sense for systems that don't have resizable partitions/filesystems and the irregular bloating of system packages, user installed apps under /home, and data/logfiles under /var all come to the conclusion that for non-tuned systems, seperated filesystems is often less beneficial that it should be, unless you have far more disk space than you would ever use.
Having said that, even FreeBSD doubled or tripled its / filesystem require back in the 4.x era. It went from a 128 meg min to a 256 meg min and caused all sorts of problems for me getting it to fit while upgrading to 4.7 or 4.8 maybe it was.
It is time to fork any distros people consider worth saving and excise both systemd and these questionable not well thought out new changes from the forked linux ecosystem.
There are plenty of 'niche' distros already taking this stance, especially the musl based ones. It is time we the techies give up the old distros to the unwashed masses and focus our energies on distros that actually make sense in the real world. That way when the next dot com crash happens from underengineered garbage causing a catastrophic failure in the networked ecosystem, we can swoop back in with alternatives that actually do what they are supposed to in a stable and understandable fashion and bring up the infrastructure again in a manner that seems miraculous to people who thought that layering on complexity would make them look smarter and more needed, rather than understanding that some complexity may be required, but only as much as can't be engineered out.
instead of forcing all debian users to systemD, include the option to choose which init system to use during the install of the operating system? that would be nice to have an init agnostic Linux distro,
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vendor lock-in for shell scripts. There will be an idiot that hard codes /usr for all the binaries like /usr/dash and so on just to mess with everyone.
I wish they'd rename linux. It's not a unix clone anymore.
Yes, its called Devuan.
"Devuan GNU+Linux is a fork of Debian without systemd."
Artix
Your Linux, your init.
This is the most exciting news I've ever read.