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China Breaks Patent Application Record (bbc.com)

China-based inventors applied for a record-setting number of patents last year. The country accounted for more than a million submissions, according to an annual report by the World Intellectual Property Organization (Wipo). It said the figure was "extraordinary". From a BBC report:A total of 2.9 million patent applications were filed worldwide in 2015, according to Wipo, marking a 7.8% rise on the previous year. China can lay claim to driving most of that growth. Its domestic patent office -- the Property Office of the People's Republic of China (Sipo) -- received a record 1,101,864 filings. Many of the filings were for innovations in telecoms, computing, semiconductors and medical tech. Beijing had urged companies to boost the number of such applications. But some experts have cast doubt as to whether it signifies that the country is truly more inventive than others, since most of China's filings were done locally.

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  1. Let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who literally couldn't care less about the intellectual property of others patent their own stuff? Just...wow.

    1. Re:Let me get this straight by unixisc · · Score: 1

      The good news - we can deal w/ Chinese theft of US IP by counter-theft of our own - depending on whichever patents are valuable

    2. Re:Let me get this straight by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      People who literally couldn't care less about the intellectual property of others patent their own stuff?

      Poor countries benefit from ignoring IP, because they produce little of their own. As they modernize, they produce more and more IP, and benefit from strengthening protections. China is going through that transition.

      Over the last decade, corporate profits have shifted from smaller to bigger corporations, and the most profitable companies all have two characteristics in common: 1) The are globalized, and 2) they own a lot of IP. There are few better investments than building up a patent portfolio. Patents give you monopoly pricing power, and negotiating power to form IP cartels with other companies.

    3. Re:Let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless the Chinese start cracking down on the very factories breaking Chinese IP law to the benefit of Western companies. Then the West is just screwed.

  2. At what price? by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    What does it cost to go through the patent filing process in China? Is it as onerous as it is in the United States?

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    1. Re: At what price? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody us assuming those patent APPLICATIONS are valid and actually have merit. And even if they are granted, who says they're a good idea? We've all seen those patents for crazy things that have absolutely no practical application.

    2. Re: At what price? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...have absolutely no practical application

      Well, there's always the practical application of suing anyone in the next 20 years who comes up with something remotely resembling the crazy idea you've never implemented...

      Also, companies are often valued based on their patent portfolio. e.g. if a company has 3500 patents, chances are, most of them are crap except for a few key ones... and yet that's a patent portfolio most competitors would sooner acquire/partner-with rather than fight.

      So now we'll have Chinese firms with substantial patent portfolios, and nobody will be able to tell just how valuable is one of those companies really is... we'll just know they have over 5k patents, etc.

    3. Re:At what price? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I did it a few times, albeit a few years ago, I think it was $35 for a patent application and you can do it yourself. If you hire a lawyer nthey wull charge tyou a couple thousand, but it's a good idea.

  3. The new Patent Trolls by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    China will cripple American business with patent lawsuits. Then what will the people say who thought that patenting side to unlock was such a great idea?

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    1. Re: The new Patent Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      also a patent does not mean an actual product but secures the idea and posibility for it only by the patent holder.

    2. Re: The new Patent Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the right to sue if somebody DOES make a product.

  4. good think trump will kill the TPP so that isds by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    good think trump will kill the TPP so that isds can not be used to enforce them. China may not be part of the TPP but they can use back doors in the isds system.

  5. What we should be asking: by kuzb · · Score: 0

    How many of those patent applications were essentially ideas ripped off from other countries? China has an extremely long history of intellectual theft.

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    1. Re:What we should be asking: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You realise the US wrote the book in international IP theft? It's really only once we stopped manufacturing ourselves that we experienced a come-to-Jesus moment with patents and began to preach the gospel.

    2. Re:What we should be asking: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and China perfected it

    3. Re:What we should be asking: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None, because you can't steal ideas. Moreover, there are a lot of people and very few genuinely original ideas. Ideas require some thought, but are mostly a product of circumstance and build upon the culmination of human progress to date. Attempting to monopolize an idea indicates an appalling lack of humility, greed, or both.

    4. Re:What we should be asking: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Every fucking patent* is "ideas ripped off": that's what is often forgotten in this "I'm a genius" driven consumerist bubble. You just pile your hard work upon the hard work of thousands of others.

      And don't make a misstake: Chinese people are as smart as any other people. Guessing by your drivel, I'd say the average Chinese is way smarter than you are (as is the average Afghani or the average Portugese).

    5. Re:What we should be asking: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like a faggot chink.

  6. Ah, China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you say somebody there is one in a million, that means they've got 1400 more like them.

  7. Junk patents by EEPROMS · · Score: 1

    From what I am reading a massive majority of china's patents ore domestic and hardly any of them have been reviewed or tested. There is a massive amount of corruption within the chinese patent system with patent legal offices openly allowing what is now termed as "junk patents" though that have no innovative value (did someone say corruption). It is only when you look at how many "international patents" china registers that you realise that the 1 million number is all smoke and mirrors (pretty much how I view the whole chinese economy).

    1. Re:Junk patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when you look at how many "international patents" china registers

      How much do you know aboutthe patent system? The above quote is more than enough to question your factual background in this.

  8. The trick is simple by fubarrr · · Score: 1

    >But some experts have cast doubt as to whether it signifies that the country is truly more inventive than others, since most of China's filings were done locally.

    Why would they need to? All the shit US is buying is made in China. And they don't even need to bother with underhanded tricks like software patents as Chinese courts simply don't recognize foreign patents except for Russian, Cuban, North Korean, and from *stans since they shared patent system back in commie times. Chinese company has to simply claim the invention first domestically for them to be enforceable.

    Look, Apple was already made to pay 3 or 4 times to Chinese patent holders. One of the claimants who won retributions against them was 60+ granny with no lawyer who basically claimed a patent on a generic dipole antenna tuner. Another, a generic claim on crypto handshake. In both cases, Apple was defending with "this software is not made in China, and we don't manufacture our phones ourselves", and in both cases they were made to pay under a threat of injunction and seizure of iphones right off Foxconn's assembly lines.

    Now analyze that. Americans invented that WIPO shit to fuck everybody, but now are getting fcuked themselves. Microsoft pays few bucks per Windooze install to Huawei since they patented the "wireless icon" and there would be no shit chance that Huawei would have allowed Windooze to be installed on any hardware manufactured by Chinese OEMs

  9. Can they really caim it's their IP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can they claim it's their IP if information used to created it was obtained by theft? (not every case but I am confident more that one patient has been produced from stolen research).

  10. Worse than Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't take long.

  11. First to file by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    First to file does not mean first to invent.

    You have to remember the Soviets used to do this too.

    And the Japanese.

    I don't blame the Chinese for doing what they do, if I were them, I'd be doing the same, especially since the NSA taps all their communications, but doesn't share the results with American inventors.

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  12. Hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet you'll find 99% of them are already in the US patent system under some variant or other.

    The Chinese are good at one thing, and one thing only: Copyright infringement.

    This flood most likely sets back all the offices from doing actual work.

    Another reason the patent system needs to be reformed and that AI should play a large part in this, things should not be so ambiguous in this day and age.

    1. Re:Hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone did the research and the American patent pool itself contains doubled of everything in it.