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Facebook Developing AI To Flag Offensive Live Videos (reuters.com)

Facebook is working on automatically flagging offensive material in live video streams, building on a growing effort to use artificial intelligence to monitor content, said Joaquin Candela, the company's director of applied machine learning. Reuters added: The social media company has been embroiled in a number of content moderation controversies this year, from facing international outcry after removing an iconic Vietnam War photo due to nudity, to allowing the spread of fake news on its site. Facebook has historically relied mostly on users to report offensive posts, which are then checked by Facebook employees against company "community standards." Decisions on especially thorny content issues that might require policy changes are made by top executives at the company. Candela told reporters that Facebook increasingly was using artificial intelligence to find offensive material. It is "an algorithm that detects nudity, violence, or any of the things that are not according to our policies," he said.

104 comments

  1. Just what we need. by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this because people are being forced to sit and watch Facebook videos?

    They're incapable of averting their own eyes?

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    1. Re: Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why doesn't facebook hire a couple of hundred people to do this job? They don't like giving people jobs? Maybe someone should make an AI that clicks their links so people don't have to see their ads and shitty site at all?

    2. Re:Just what we need. by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      Max Headroom?

    3. Re: Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are. Facebook is for gullible and stupid people. It needs a big brother AI to filter all the news and other items.

      What they also need to do is disguise the race, gender, religious preference and political leanings of their lusers. That way it will become safe and cuddly for its true purpose - advertising shit.

      That's why the fake news came about. The authors in Macedonia were raking in the bucks because stupid people on Facebook believed their fairy tales , clicked like and bingo! The money flowed in!

      So, I'm trying to figure out on how to get in on the action. On a side note, Melina Trump and Hilary Clinton are having an affair. Malania is quoted as saying, "She's more of a man than Donald Ever was!"

    4. Re:Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this because people are being forced to sit and watch Facebook videos?

      They're incapable of averting their own eyes?

      Its because some businesses don't want their brands associated with a$$holes. Advertisers don't want their messages mixed in with things that might turn off potential customers. Its not that complicated.

    5. Re:Just what we need. by Xenographic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe they'll do like Google and try to suppress videos like this?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zEibNcejA

      Several accounts were punished for posting this before it hit the news, then Google relented.

    6. Re: Just what we need. by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Once you've seen the goatse, it's too late to avert your eyes. What is seen can never be unseen.

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    7. Re: Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Facebook does have third world people doing it ,and it's putting them in therapy.

    8. Re:Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They just need mo money fo dem programs.

    9. Re:Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I-I love- love- i love those blip- blip- blip- blip- blipverts

    10. Re: Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You took the words right out of my mouth. I don't understand why they insist on solving all of their problems utilizing only software, and ineffectually, too.

    11. Re: Just what we need. by tlambert · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't facebook hire a couple of hundred people to do this job?

      Because they are LIVE video streams.

    12. Re:Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      classic chimp out

    13. Re:Just what we need. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Is this because people are being forced to sit and watch Facebook videos?

      They're incapable of averting their own eyes?

      So you've never been fooled into seeing a Goatse claiming it was Natalie Portman naked with hot gritz?

      Same thing happens with video.

      Besides, who is forcing you to go to Facebook. Instead of whinging about it, why don't you just ignore what Facebook is doing.

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    14. Re: Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Maybe someone should make an AI that clicks their links so people don't have to see their ads and shitty site at all?"
      Great idea! Any volunteers?

  2. What Kind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So: videos of people praying will be eliminated?

    1. Re:What Kind? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      So you're not offended by watching someone's ass while they prey?

  3. Yep. by thrasher+thetic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Facebook deciding what's offensive, thats exactly what I want.

    1. Re: Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worse. It's an AI that'll be trained by Facebook users as to what it should consider offensive.

    2. Re:Yep. by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      All this censorship from a person that took over 300 billion dollars out of the American economy, and holds it somewhere else? Ya, it makes all the sense in the world to me what going on here.

    3. Re:Yep. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Facebook deciding what's offensive, thats exactly what I want.

      Facebook is deciding what's offensive when it comes to material that appears on their site.

      That seems reasonable to me.

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    4. Re:Yep. by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Facebook is deciding what's offensive when it comes to material that appears on their site.

      That seems reasonable to me.

      Legal? Sure. Desirable? No.

      Welcome to the daily /. "reasons not to use Facebook" story.

      No one seems interested in running a site that moderates rude conversation, yet allows spirited political and religious debate. Someplace where you can say "I don't think American needs any more [insert group here]" as long as you don't pile personal abuse on other commenters. All our choices are "speech I disagree with is threats and hate speech" or "anything goes, until the FBI seizes the servers". Somewhere in between would be nice.

      Slashdot moderation works great for this, BTW, because you can just ignore it. But less politics on Slashdot would be better. A political debate version of Slashdot could be neat.though.

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    5. Re:Yep. by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The problem is that no matter how much a political site tries to stay on course and keep posters behaving with a certain modicum of decency, when you're dealing with people who have deep emotional attachments to their ideology you will inevitably get flame wars. Throw in mischievous trolls looking to stir up the shit, I doubt many political sites would survive.

      Besides, even Slashdot moderation gets criticized by the some posters due to what they claim is groupthink.

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    6. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A baker deciding to not bake a wedding cake for a gay couple from their ovens.
      That seems reasonable to me.

      Oh, we stepped well beyond reasonable. I'm still waiting for someone to explain the difference between the bakers and all these SV tech companies censoring people they decide they don't like.

    7. Re:Yep. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      A baker deciding to not bake a wedding cake for a gay couple from their ovens.That seems reasonable to me.

      Oh god, not this again.

      At one time, it was legal for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a black couple, because free speech. The Civil Rights Act put an end to that, because equal protection.

      When two rights come into conflict, you have to decide which one wins. The rights of gays to equal protection are not uniformly in place, but they're catching up to those of non-gays.

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    8. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyplace where the group is responsible for moderation will devolve to groupthink.

      The only way lgw can ever get what he wants is on a forum moderated by a single benevolent god administrator, and that works until the admin gets tired of everyone else's bullshit and turns on the brimstone spigot.

    9. Re:Yep. by lgw · · Score: 1

      The only way lgw can ever get what he wants is on a forum moderated by a single benevolent god administrator, and that works until the admin gets tired of everyone else's bullshit and turns on the brimstone spigot.

      Actually, I've seen it work with a small cadre of mods picked by the site owner. Slashdot takes a different approach entirely, of not removing any (well, hardly any) posts, but letting you filter out the more trolly/offensive stuff if you want to. But perhaps that only works because Slashdot isn't a political site, and so you get mods from both sides of most issues here.

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    10. Re:Yep. by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      but letting you filter out the more trolly/offensive stuff if you want to.

      There is no system here to filter out what you think is "more trolly/offensive". You can only filter out what other people who have been given mod points have marked as "troll" or "offtopic" or a couple of other negatives. I don't recall "offensive" being one of them. In any case, you can filter out what other people don't want you to see, or select things that they do want you to see, which is different than filtering truly trolly or offensive material. Downmods are made for all kinds of reasons, as are upmods, not limited to the specified criteria.

      But perhaps that only works because Slashdot isn't a political site,

      It isn't supposed to be one.

      and so you get mods from both sides of most issues here.

      Once a post has been modded down so it is not seen except by those who go looking for such things it is unlikely to come back into view. This gives a big advantage, and a resulting bias in what you see, to the negative mod points in hiding comments.

    11. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You do believe businesses should be able to ban people based on their speech.

      Let bakers ban potential customers for stating that they are gay. Ban them for stating that they want a cake for a gay wedding. Simple.

      Not banned for being gay. You can be gay all you want. You just cant say it.

      Exactly the world you want to live in right?

    12. Re:Yep. by lgw · · Score: 1

      Anything Slashdot mods find offensive, or even just disagree with at an emotional level, gets modded troll or flamebait. However, the ability to mod up usually keeps posts visisble on both sides of any political question, unless the post leans too far into personal attacks. It's not perfect, but it works OK as long as mods browse at -1.

      Once a post has been modded down so it is not seen except by those who go looking for such things it is unlikely to come back into view.

      Happens to my posts on political stories fairly often, actually. I'll see stuff drop quickly, then gradually come back up, often accumulating a dozen or so mod points as it becomes a point of mod contention. And offensive/abusive posts tend not to get any mods kicking them back up, so they tend to stay hidden. I just browse at -1 anyhow, since I got used to /. before karma, but like I said - the system tends to work OK.

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    13. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rights of Gays > Free Speech
      Rights of Gays > Freedom of Religion

      That is your post. Two of the above are in the Constitution and have no bearing on if you are gay or not. You are saying a group of people has greater rights than guaranteed in the Constitution "because you say so".

      And yes, this will come up over and over and over. The left overstepped on this one and it will constantly be tossed back in your face. You shit on people because they are Christians and think there should be no repercussions, despite the outright guarantee of freedom of religion.

    14. Re:Yep. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Rights of Gays > Free Speech
      Rights of Gays > Freedom of Religion

      That is your post

      Would you be comfortable with the following?

      Rights of blacks < Free Speech?
      Rights of blacks < Freedom of Religion?

      You shit on people because they are Christians

      I do no such thing. I consider Christianity to be a noble faith. I was raised in it.

      What I do not tolerate is discrimination of others on the basis of sexual orientation. If you think that conflicts with your religions views, then fine, you can still hold those views, but you can't use them to justify discrimination. That argument has been settled for other factors such as race, creed, national origin, disability, and so on. The law is still evolving on this issue as it pertains to gays, but IMHO it is headed in the right direction.

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    15. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no religious views, I'm sick of people telling me they are better because they don't go to church.

      The Constitution's rights do not require a race or sexual orientation, sorry you are unable to see that. Gays are not listed in the Constitution, their rights are not greater than anyone else's just because you think they should.

      You don't like the bakery example because it shows the hypocrisy of your argument and you have no valid rebuttal. Like I said, you thought shitting on Christians was fine because you are "smarter" and now here you are unable to explain your "smarter" position without hinting that I must be a racists because I pointed it out to you.

      It is the typical liberal response. "You must be a racist" when you are confronted with uncomfortable truth that you are unable to rationalize with your own bigoted views.

  4. This might make the site usable again by MiniMike · · Score: 2

    One question- can the AI be trained to be offended by cats?

    1. Re:This might make the site usable again by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      I bet it goes rogue and ends up offended by Facebook.

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    2. Re:This might make the site usable again by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      One could make the AI allergic to cats. Most intelligence's that are allergic to cats are offended by them.

    3. Re:This might make the site usable again by gnick · · Score: 1

      can the AI be trained to be offended by cats?

      Only if they're naked or violent.

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    4. Re:This might make the site usable again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bald or hairy pussy?

  5. Yeah! by no-body · · Score: 1

    Big Brother knows what's good for you and always love you!

  6. holy shit.... by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They have an AI so advanced it is capable of being offended? That is amazing.

    Now if only they could develop one mature enough to be offended and yet remain objective enough to realize that it own opinion wasn't anything anyone asked for or cared about.

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    1. Re:holy shit.... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Feelings are more important than facts. Facts are offensive to people, and offended people have feelings, therefore we MUST not ever be offended by anything.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    2. Re:holy shit.... by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Offense is never given, it's always taken.

  7. Thank you Facebook for protecting me . . . by spamking · · Score: 1

    Good grief. Can't people think for themselves? We don't need Facebook or any other social media platform censoring stuff for us.

    1. Re:Thank you Facebook for protecting me . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Good grief. Can't people think for themselves? We don't need Facebook or any other social media platform censoring stuff for us.

      Oh hell yes we do.

      We MUST patch all the cracks in the "progressive" echo chamber that are letting these horrible, offensive things called OTHER IDEAS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH!!! in.

  8. This is gonna be Yuuuuuuuge! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has Dear Leader Trump commented on this yet? I do hope he also makes Twitter do the same thing.

    1. Re:This is gonna be Yuuuuuuuge! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Self censorshipt! I love it.

  9. Sorry Dave, you can't view that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how about a nice game of chess instead?

  10. What is wrong with this site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "to allowing the spread of fake news on its site." What in the holy hell is going on here, EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE HAS PROPAGANDA NOW.

    Every time I come here now it's this bullshit. Actually, you know what, fuck this, I'm out, I'm done complaining, removing this site from my RSS reader right now. Have fun propagandists, have fun "useful idiots" arguing your cliche talking points, writing down the same slogans and idioticy over and over. Have fun CTR and other paid shills. Have fun mods, whoever you are, you killed this place.

    God I miss the internet of old. I miss the old slashdot. I miss the intelligent conversations not these reddit-tier vapid quips masquerading as a discussion. The luddites have killed everything.

    I'm out.

  11. "Progressives" railing about losing control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is nothing more that more "progressives" railing about losing control of the message.

    I can't wait until sheeple college kids compete for who be the most offensive to SJWs instead of trying to out-SJW each other.

    1. Re:"Progressives" railing about losing control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "compete"? They are pushing as hard as they can for Participation degrees. It's no wonder we need so many H1-B. These people are only good for UBI and voting as they are told.

  12. ?WHY THE FUCK.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WHY THE FUCK cant they just add "dislike" or "im offended" buttons to their stupid emoticon list!

    1. Re:?WHY THE FUCK.. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Obviously because they don't want people to know.

  13. Offensive videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who at Facebook decides what is offensive and what qualifies them to make these decisions?

    I don't trust anyone there to make these kinds of decisions and neither should you.

  14. Just a thought, Zuck' by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

    Why not create a Personal Artificial Intelligence, "PAI", that for your FB User can use as a filter? Or are your H1B zombies to stupid for this task? Next time, hire American.

  15. "offensive" is so innately subjective.... by mark-t · · Score: 1

    ... that the only way to keep everyone from being offended is to not have any content at all.

    What one person thinks is offensive another will think is fine, and what the latter thinks is offensive the former may think is fine. There is no lowest common denominator here, any no one-size-fits-all solution can ever hope to work.

    1. Re:"offensive" is so innately subjective.... by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I think get ridding of the Nazis and trolls will do the job.

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    2. Re:"offensive" is so innately subjective.... by Tyrannicsupremacy · · Score: 0

      "Everybody who doesn't share my biased leftism is a Nazi troll!"

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  16. and when it flags the trump EMS message? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    and when it flags the trump EMS message?

  17. censor censor censor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    never ever trust a site ran by jews

  18. Anything with Zuckerberg in it should be flagged. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because there is nothing more offensive than a parasitic money-grubbing prick.

    Go ahead and down mod this post, but it won't diminish the truth of it.

  19. A few hundred, or a few million? by raymorris · · Score: 2

    Every day people post on Facebook:
    250 million photos
    400 million status updates
    around 40 million videos (guesttimate)

    Suppose in an hour of work, in addition to bathroom breaks, meetings, etc, an employee can review:
    50 photos
    80 status updates
    8 videos

    Facebook would need about 750,000 employees reviewing those things. Then of course another team doing reviewing comments. (Obviously it also depends on how much holiday and sick time they get, and how much time they spend on various HR-mandated training.)

    1. Re:A few hundred, or a few million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook would need about 750,000 employees reviewing those things. Then of course another team doing reviewing comments. (Obviously it also depends on how much holiday and sick time they get, and how much time they spend on various HR-mandated training.)

      They are going to need a much bigger HR department.

    2. Re:A few hundred, or a few million? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      More to the question....

      Aside from things like child porn, and mutilated bodies...is there any speech or pictures that are so egregious that they will warp the minds and irreparably damage all the cupcakes and snowflakes out there?

      Sheesh people..grow some skin.

      Offensive speech and expression, and things controversial are exactly what needs to be allowed and protected...even by companies like this...if people actually depends on these sites for news and info (I still can't imagine this, but apparently so)...then you need to allow a full fun spigot flow of stuff to go through, just so people don't get complacent and thing the world is a warm and fuzzy place.

      I think if more controversial stuff was disseminated you'd not see people freaking out so badly when something offensive-nature some how accidentally gets published or expressed.

      Seeing a naked hoo-hoo, or hearing a deragatory term (honky, chink, nig-g-er, spic, etc) (NOTE: When did slashdot put in a lameness filter on words here like these??? Did I just seriously have to put symbols into a word, that's new!! The other ones are ok, but this one isn't?) , or an image of some religious figure....is NOT the end of the world and it won't destroy the world.

      On the contrary, let it be said and expressed, and soon, it won't be perceived as such a big deal.

      Its kinda like how kids in the US are kept so far away from a simple thing like alcohol thoughout child hood....its a "forbidden fruit"..and when they leave the house, they binge on it, etc.

      Same thing with offensive expression....if you make it the forbidden fruit, well....people go apeshit over things that really shouldn't occupy ones attention for more than a passing glance.

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    3. Re: A few hundred, or a few million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they could just let people post what they want and let user ban & block stuff. so what if people get "offended".

    4. Re:A few hundred, or a few million? by UncleRage · · Score: 1

      No mod points at the moment, so I'll offer a simple, "Well said."

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  20. Bad idea. Everything on facebook is offensive. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    There is no more certain way to make an AI go mad and try to kill us all.

  21. Every Fucking Day with this Shit by clonehappy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When the fuck did it become some kind of ingrained right to not have to experience anything "offensive"? Real life is offensive, this just tells me that the technocratic elite want to push these technologies on us in order to sterilize our existence (both literally and figuratively). There are only two kinds of speech, free speech and censored speech. Why ANYONE would choose the latter is beyond me.

    Ever walk down the street in the city and a bum comes up to you begging? He can smell and look offensive. Should that be censored? Ever been on a farm and smell the pigs or the cow manure? That's offensive. Ever see guts at the scene of a car wreck? That's offensive. At least to me, but maybe not to you. See how it works? Not only is the entire thing so subjective as to be useless for anything other than propaganda-pushing, removing ALL offending content just flat-out means removing all content. Besides, this isn't just about using words that the special snowflakes don't like, it's about living in the real world. Using the useful idiot tools to squelch words and thoughts they don't like about other people is just the beginning.

    All of this censorship ends up in one place; a sanitized, fabricated virtual reality existence where every message you see is approved, every thought you express is sanctioned, and every opinion you have is the correct one. And guess who's going to be controlling it? If you think Zuckerberg is bad, think again. He and his beast system are just a means to an end for the really evil elitists at the top. Just because they've created a "real world" that's so seemingly hopeless if you get sucked in by the news media and false reality doesn't mean you should by any means take solace in the safety of censorship.

    Get off your ass, unplug, get out there into the real world and get offended! Trust me, it gets easier after the first few times. And you'll probably realized that being offended isn't anywhere near the worst thing that can possibly happen to you and get some perspective back into your life of what is and isn't really important in the big picture. Of course, tread lightly, as those at the top have tried their damnedest to make sure they get to stay in control of your mind and they don't tend to act rationally when faced with people calling their bluff.

    1. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuck the Cuck is sad because while everyone was crying about bathrooms With Her(tm), America told him where he could stick his H1Bs.

    2. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the fuck did it become some kind of ingrained right to not have to experience anything "offensive"? Real life is offensive, this just tells me that the technocratic elite want to push these technologies on us in order to sterilize our existence (both literally and figuratively). There are only two kinds of speech, free speech and censored speech. Why ANYONE would choose the latter is beyond me.

      Damn straight! If you don't want to see child porn or people getting beheaded in your Facebook feed, then you're supporting tyranny! That's real life, so suck it up!

    3. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why ANYONE would choose the latter is beyond me.

      Because they envision themselves the censors.

    4. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      Real life is offensive... Ever walk down the street in the city and a bum comes up to you begging? ... Ever been on a farm and smell the pigs or the cow manure?

      You sound like someone who's easily offended. My three year old daughter is less squeamish.

    5. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by Tom · · Score: 1

      Ever walk down the street in the city and a bum comes up to you begging? He can smell and look offensive. Should that be censored?

      Yes. My purpose of being there is not to be a begging target, I didn't invite him to approach me, he is, in Internet terms, spamming me.

      Ever been on a farm and smell the pigs or the cow manure? That's offensive.

      But it is a necessary part of the operation of the farm. It is a direct consequence without which the farm could not function. In Internet terms, it's the annoying login dialog.

      Ever see guts at the scene of a car wreck? That's offensive.

      That is an unintended side-effect, not desired by anyone and not intentionally inflicted upon me by anyone. In Internet terms, it's lag or slow loading times.

      You are comparing completely different things, not understanding that for some of them, there is no reason we should have to endure them (for the record: The proper solution is that the bum doesn't exist, our society is rich enough that every homeless person is a shame to us all)

      Get off your ass, unplug, get out there into the real world and get offended! Trust me, it gets easier after the first few times. And you'll probably realized that being offended isn't anywhere near the worst thing that can possibly happen to you

      I'm with you on that there's no right to not be offended.
      However, I can absolutely want to protect myself from what I don't like. I keep my house clean because I don't like trash and smells. I keep my door closed because I want to decide who I invite in and who not. I don't hang disgusting pictures on my walls, etc.
      I can filter my view of the world. You have a right to Free Speech, but not a right to force me to listen. Individual filters are a necessity or we would all drown in spam. What we need to prevent is centrally controlled filters.

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    6. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by clonehappy · · Score: 1

      What we need to prevent is centrally controlled filters.

      Which is exactly what Facebook and others propose.

    7. Re:Every Fucking Day with this Shit by ebvwfbw · · Score: 0

      Wait until your three year old daughter is "offended" because she didn't get what she wants for Christmas.

      So many act offended. They aren't offended, they feel it's a license to be an asshole. In fact, that's the whole BLM movement. Should be able to just run over them. Hey, act like a dumbass, suffer dumbass consequences. Too bad they only a few days in Richmond. I wish they would have to server 30 days on a pig farm, where they belong. They could even name one of their leaders Napoleon, another Snowball.

  22. WTF is "Fake News" by friesofdoom · · Score: 1

    Can someone explain to me what the fuck "fake news" is? Is the Onion "fake news" ? Is BBC "fake news" most of the shit i see on there these days is opinionated nonsense that i wouldn't consider authentic news... WTF is the problem? Use your peanut, it will help you discern the real from the fake...

    1. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by clonehappy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can explain.

      Here's what "fake news" is: any news not approved and sanctioned by the entrenched legacy newsmedia and their handlers.

      This is happening because, rather than admit they dropped the ball on the entire 2016 election cycle (and admittedly probably have been dropping the ball on many fronts for the last decade or more), they are blaming social media/the internet and the ability of citizen and independent journalism to fill the void they left behind when they stopped showing any shred of integrity or equitability in their "news" coverage and became wholly bought and paid for mouthpieces of the establishment and elites.

      Basically, when the petulant children were not satisfied just tilting the scales for the oligarchs, they decided to start completely fabricating news stories for most of the last year or more and now that it's painfully obvious they're doing what they do best: projecting their own failures onto those who were actually doing the work of real journalists by proclaiming them to be "fake" to try and regain control of the narrative. Essentially, doubling down on the bullshit and intelligent people are still seeing right through it.

    2. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So which one is the fake news?
      Your post both suggests entrenched news is both producing actual fake news as well as labeling non-entrenched news sources as fake news regardless of content veracity.

    3. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fake news are any news that do not benefit the party. To avoid crimethink, you should only read news approved by the Ministry of Truth. Ignorance is strength.

    4. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice propaganda piece, trying to undermine the message. You are (Score: -1, Wrong)

      Fake news is news about fake things. For example, you may (or may not) remember the "Swiftboating" of John Kerry during the 2004 election cycle. It's news which is known to be false but is being broadcast anyway to achieve an ends. It's a real thing on all sides of the political spectrum (do you think Fox News went to court to defend the right to lie to the public?).

      Given all the complaints by "the right" about how "Trump never said sexist/racist/whatever," I would have thought that they would be the top of the pile complaining about fake news.

      You can argue whether or not it's a real problem, but it's more than just "whiny losing by lefty control freaks."

    5. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... work of real journalists by proclaiming them to be "fake" ...

      You've got 2 definitions of 'fake' there. Your first definition is wrong: Fake news is not censorship, it's demanding people treat fiction as fact; better known as propaganda. Your second definition has recently been termed 'post-truth', where the truth is ignored (creationists, climate deniers, anti-vaxxers) or vilified (most SJW dialogues).

      Your claim that the ruling elite are responsible for fake news may also be propaganda; there are plenty of little people who believe the ruling-class propaganda, such as capitalism (privatization) is better, small government is better, rich people will save you, corporations (should) have rights, national security overrides all laws. They will spout a suitable narrative to protect their own delusions, the ruling-class is not required.

    6. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..or it's fake stuff attacking those exposing the Oligarchy - like pretty much any 'mainstream' media story on Assange.

    7. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Keeping the USA in Vietnam. Countering the Watergate reporting, countering The Pentagon Papers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... The US in Iraq the first time around, getting the US in the Iraq the second time. Getting the US into Libya, pushing to get into Syria.
      The US press who supported the one political party over another.
      Once the wider public started reading what wikileaks and other whistleblowers had published the mainstream media had to push back. The US media missed a lot of what was in wikileaks due to a lack of reporters, a lack of skill, a lack of funds, their own party politics or the need to keep advertising funds.
      So the trend of "fake news" was started to get people back to the US mainstream media and their pro war, pro big gov talking points.
      Part of the push back it now to control links, discussion, comments, messages, terms, video clips that might totally bypass the traditional role of the US mainstream media.
      To stop any further wider discussion you have teams of SJW ready to block links, the wider internet, words, comments, ban users, videos, sites, politicians, whistleblowers, public investigations and suggest only the mainstream media can be linked or supported.
      The term the SJW teams like is "fake news" when they alter, remove, delete, ban or delist. i.e. censorship.
      Part of that is removing links to or trending political video clips. Or political video clips that get shared with new user content at the beginning and end.
      e.g. any political video will never make it to the site and the user will be banned after a SJW has noted a type of political content.
      What was an open portal for political comment will be a global safe space.

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    8. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US in Iraq the first time around ...

      Korea, Iraq 1 and Libya were police actions which I'm not strictly opposed to, although Korea stopped being a police action after the first year. Iraq 2, Syria, the second push into Korea and even Vietnam were about regime change, which is less defensible and they all went badly. So did Libya to a point, but I think that's because the 'police' weren't committed to their job.

    9. Re:WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      probably have been dropping the ball on many fronts for the last decade or more

      Walter Duranty's Pulitzer still hasn't been revoked. That was 1932.

      Read any story by a journalist about a subject that you know really well. Notice how many things they get wrong. Then remember that they get that many things wrong about everything.

    10. Re: WTF is "Fake News" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fake news has always been around. Just look at tabloids. It's only now that the media is getting their panties in a bunch over it because it is their desperate attempt to undermine Trump and the tens of millions who voted him into office by associating them with it

  23. How come by Tyrannicsupremacy · · Score: 0

    I never see articles with headlines like "Company X is developing a new AI to bolster free speech" or "New breakthrough in privacy app"?

    Every company wants to censor and censor some more. It's like censorship is becoming the biggest new corporate fad.

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    1. Re:How come by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      All the best and fun people are moving to US sites that embrace freedom of speech and freedom after speech.
      The global brands that embrace SJW, censorship, theocracies, nation blasphemy laws will just become publishers of gov news and celebrity staff taking points.
      Very boring. Very happy to ban or report users is not brand growth.
      If users get banned for commenting on the news, a video clip that a SJW did not approve of users will seek better US sites. The interesting users will just move to much better sites that allow public discourse and political freedom.
      People all over the USA are setting up new sites that allow freedom and discussion.
      US sites that offer the world freedom grow and attract a wider global following as anyone can get censorship back in their own nations for free.
      The part that set US global branding apart was US protected freedom. Take that away and much smarter, more fun US brands will grow.

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  24. Videos? by rikkards · · Score: 1

    I would prefer not seeing the same sales groups or suggested pages I keep unchecking first.

  25. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are building a censorship tool and pretending it is for a good cause.
    Facebook cannot die soon enough. Hopefully the next big social media will have more to offer.

  26. no, fake news is real, and a real problem by Ionized · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Depending on where you draw the line, fake news is shit like 'Obama appoints sharia council' - online equivalents to the National Enquirer, where they literally just make things up to create juicy clickbait headlines that then spread like wildfire through all the idiots on FB. Or, it is stuff like Breitbart that may start with something kinda factual but present it in unbelievably biased or dishonest ways. There is a lot of grey area, but some sites are definitely well into the muck of what any reasonable person interested in objective reality would call 'fake news.'

    1. Re:no, fake news is real, and a real problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are falling for their narrative. The MSM is just about as fake as the National Enquirer. The only difference is they are much better at it and spend more money making it seem real. They even sprinkle in some real filler stories in; but the entire point is to make you feel comfortable for when they spew their version of fake news.

      The entire "fake news" campaign is to make people feel the only news they can trust is the "big news companies" with high production value. They want you to ignore the Breitbart stuff because it conflicts with what they just said and has proof and logic to back it up. They want you to ignore social media where people post raw data, video clips, e-mails, etc without careful MSM editing and review. They want to lie by omission and alternate news sources screw that up.

      Sure, a lot of Brietbart is opinionated and styled in an anti-liberal way. That doesn't make it any more "fake" than CNN. As far as I can tell CNN is more fake. They cut off people who don't fall in line with their narrative. They will crucify a Trump tweet / statement that is edited or out of context. They will crucify a Trump proposal or statement while previously praising Hillary for the same proposals or statement. They do all of this while claiming to be "neutral". At least with Brietbart you know what you are looking at and are getting the other side of the story. Even if you don't go along with every word, they are presenting a lot of stuff that the MSM won't even talk about.

    2. Re: no, fake news is real, and a real problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > start with something kinda factual but present it in unbelievably biased or dishonest ways.

      So... literally every MSM organization (that is hypocritically pushing the "fake news" crap)?

  27. Offended? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When did it become so bad to be offended?

  28. I've developed my own app by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    A browser extension, really. When you try to access Facebook, it redirects you to a website reminding you of what a stupid, pointless waste of time Facebook is, and educates you in ways you can break the addiction to it. Then it locks you out of the Internet for an hour, so you can go find something productive to do instead.

  29. What's wrong with being offended ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like my view on the world *not* sanitized please. Being offended by views other than my own broadens my horizon and gets me thinking (eventually) if my own opinions are to be improved on or not. Facebook has become dull bubble that echoes what it thinks I like, which is utterly boring to me. And this is going to become even worse I read. Exactly the reason I never look on facebook anymore.

  30. How about we work on sensibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all this sand in the vijayjay 'i'm offended' is just an excuse to suppress things not agreed with most of the time. but it is increasingly being used to suppress any information exposing crimes and the behaviour of certain parties.

    'the internet should have never existed'.

  31. Janet Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many businesses have decided on the censorship path since the government demands they ban a lot of material anyway, it's easier to block it all and avoid pissing-off somebody. When Janet's nipple was exposed on North American television, thousands of Americans (but almost no Canadians) complained. I imagine thousands of Americans were suddenly worried that a bare breast would injure their precious snowflake.

    I think everyone is strong enough to see tits but there's a lot material I don't want to see: eg. Naked women, it distracts me from what I'm doing and prevents the opportunity to ogle her properly. I don't avoid naked women all the time, so I want to find them and easily and quickly when I do want to ogle. Likewise with videos of real torture and murder. At the very least, such material should be on a separate page with a suitable warning, not shoved into the Facebook feed to generate clicks. It's partially a problem of protecting the children, which can be assisted by age verification protocols, and mostly a problem of monetizing everything subscribers post onto Facebook.

    If Zuckerberg wants Facebook to be a walled garden with captive (and paying) subscribers, he''ll have to spend a lot of money adding and moderating walls where people can view NSFW material.

    1. Re:Janet Jackson by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      ah yes, I remember that particularly is I never noticed the wardrobe malfunction. I'm not into football but was with friends as they had a football party (was it a superbowl? I'm too lazy to look up the details). I remember about people discussing the lopsided team match, where one team seemed to have considerable skill over the other like the losing team was college kids going up against pro players. Then few days later comes this controversy, it took the FCC quite some time on how to deal with the matter. Janet Jackson took the fall but I always wondered why Justin Timberlake (who was the one that grabbed her costume) walked away untouched.

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  32. Slashdot 2016... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once upon a time this used to be a geeky tech news site. Here we get an article that at LEAST finally has a tech part to it... but instead of discussing super smart algorithms or debating what should or shouldn't really be called "Artificial Intelligence" or the amount of data sifting happening here... All the posts are political or about people being offended by other people being offended or a meta post about how everything is about politics and not tech... Oh wait...

  33. I'm surprised no one has stated the obvious by tlambert · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised no one has stated the obvious:

    This is why they've banned Prisma. If you use a Prisma filter and shoot an offensive video to upload to Facebook, the AI will likely be unable to flag the content as offensive. Humans, of course, will continue to find it offensive.

  34. I for one, welcome... by Tom · · Score: 1

    Letting computers decide what is offensive and what is not. What could possibly go wrong?

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  35. Useless PC colleges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unlike the people who apparently wasted their money on their college educations and need safe spaces every time they see something they disagree with, I expect Facebook not to treat me like I'm in China. Those fuckers better not bring that shit back with them.

  36. AI deciding what is "offensive" by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    Hey, what could go wrong? 1984 is coming to take us all away.