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Google Global Cache Is Coming to Cuba (ap.org)

"The Associated Press reports that on Monday Eric Schmidt will be in Havana to sign a deal bringing Google Global Cache to Cuba," writes lpress. Here's some details from the AP's report on the deal. Cuba suffers from some of the world's slowest internet speeds due to a range of problems that include the convoluted, and thus slower, paths that data must travel between Cuban users and servers that are often in the U.S... home internet connections remain illegal for virtually all Cubans, forcing them to use public WiFi spots that are often shared by dozens of people at a time and run at achingly slow speeds... Both pro-detente forces and those arguing for a hard line on President Raul Castro's single-party government have been pushing for Cubans to have better access to information.
The article cites Slashdot reader Larry Press as "a California-based expert on the Cuban internet," who also shares some more thoughts on his blog. "I'd love to see a country -- even a small one -- in which Google Plus was more popular than Facebook."

46 comments

  1. Is there a Google Global Cache map? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The best map I could find was a 2015 test that found 2383 "cache instances" in 800 locations around the globe.

    I'm just wondering if we're headed to a future where the third world surf the web on Google's internet, while Google silently monitors their traffic to help calculating their page rankings.

  2. Poor cubans by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3

    Before they had information filtered and warped by the Castro regime, now they'll have information filtered and warped by Google...

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    1. Re:Poor cubans by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And, before that, the information was filtered and warped by the Batista regime.

      Let's not pretend that, before Castro, Cuba was some wonderful place for most of its citizens.

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    2. Re:Poor cubans by guestapoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Unlike N.Korea, which is a black hole of informations, so everyone can say everything about this country.
      But, for the case of Cuba, there are tons of tourists here, so one want to say somethings must be 'careful'. Even the 'Reporters without border', despite painted Cuba in black color, but could not deny that:
      http://web.archive.org/web/201...

      At the Correos de Cuba and the hotels, you have access to practically all news websites such as lemonde.fr, bbc.com, El Nuevo Herald (a Miami-based Spanish-language daily) and even to dissident sites. This is also the case for government employees with a computer and Internet access.

      “I haven’t opened Granma for years,” says Luis, who works for the culture ministry. “I get my news from Google and the BBC website and I have never had any problem getting to websites operated by government opponents.
      In fact, of all the news stories I wanted to read on the Internet, only one has been blocked.

      I do not say that Cuba has freedom of informations, when it's a totalitarian regime. But, saying that Cubans have limited access Internet because of Chinese-style informations filter is not correct:
      * they don't have this kind of technology. Also, in fact, the Great Firewall does not works perfectly, I used Internet inside this curtain, and it's extreme annoying. That's why Chinese have been paying much money for VPN, proxy for accessing Internet outside.
      * The main reason for this (limited access Internet in Cuba) is the price, the bandwidth.

    3. Re:Poor cubans by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Close call, but I don't think Bezos has killed that many people yet. Or maybe I mean Brin? Whatever.

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    4. Re:Poor cubans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, but let's not pretend that Cuba is some wonderful place now, either.

  3. I'd love to see a country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    were people would just piss on both Google and Facebook.

  4. Re:WTF is this BS Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You may not believe it, but Larry Press has a lot of pull.

  5. Left-wing bias alert! by Nutria · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who does lpress first blame on Cuban internet slowness?

    Not the fact that internet connections are illegal for the vast majority of Cubans.
    Not the fact that they can only get it through a small number of overburdened public WiFi hot spots who's connections are slow to begin with.

    No. As usual, The Liberal Blames America First.

    Who needs fake news when distortion is soooo much more effective, and has the benefit of being... true?

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    1. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      I guess someone has to put a (better?) cable on the sea floor and until then the cache sounds like a good idea.

    2. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by Nutria · · Score: 1

      What good would a 60Tbps cable straight from Miami to Havana do when only the Privileged Few, Blessed By the Communist Party are allowed to have Internet access, and the public hot spots are all crappy?

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    3. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by Ksevio · · Score: 2

      Well Google isn't aiming to fix the first two issues, they're fixing the slow connection to the outside. The US embargo prevented telecom connections to the US so that seems like a pretty good candidate to blame.

      Now if the article was about Google installing wifi balloons or something, then you'd have a point, but it seems like you're just trying to distort the issue to make some sort of misguided point.

    4. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would lay the groundwork for public hot spots to become less crappy. You could put ten thousand wifi hotspots on the island, and service would still be lousy without better connectivity than ALBA-1 and sat links between the island and the rest of the world.

      Connecting an island to the internet is a straightforward process of steps that build upon one another.

    5. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by Nutria · · Score: 1

      they're fixing the slow connection to the outside.

      Which is useless, if private Internet connections are illegal.

      The US embargo prevented telecom connections to the US so that seems like a pretty good candidate to blame.

      How exactly did the US embargo make the Partido Comunista de Cuba ban all private Internet connections?

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    6. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Not the fact that internet connections are illegal for the vast majority of Cubans.

      No longer true, though they are subject to monitoring and scrutiny.

      Not the fact that they can only get it through a small number of overburdened public WiFi hot spots who's connections are slow to begin with.

      That part is still true.

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    7. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Under Soviet Communism, you pay for Internet access with Party favours, which you gain by complying with the system. You could be the most productive motherfucker in the world, but unless you walk in the accepted circles, you're not getting your own Internet access.

      Under American Capitalism, you pay for Internet access with cash, which you gain by complying with the system. You could be the most productive motherfucker in the world, but unless you trade in accepted payment methods, you're not getting your own Internet access.

      My mother held a privileged position in the USSR. I am a reasonably wealthy individual in the UK. We both get stuff that peasants don't get.

      So, there's the background.

      Now, to answer your question: because the US embargo would make Internet access very difficult. Connecting to the Internet is more than having equipment in your house and in your street - even though both these things require access to the markets that sell such equipment. You also need fat pipes under the sea.

      What is more, you need tech infrastructure investment that is not very easy when the most powerful trader and closest big neighbour is embargoing you. IOW, you have better things to worry about than whether Bob can read the latest bitter whine from wealthy exiles in Miami that Batista's massive brothel isn't still fucking the majority of Cubans into the dirt.

    8. Re:Left-wing bias alert! by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      Not sure why you're so caught up with this (unrelated) private internet connection issue. Maybe RTFA?

  6. "Castro's single-party government" by jcr · · Score: 2, Informative

    The word is "dictatorship". Or, if you prefer: "tyranny".

    -jcr

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    1. Re: "Castro's single-party government" by guruevi · · Score: 0

      Trump had some criticism about Cuba's government so Cuba is now a 'good' example of governance according to the media.

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    2. Re: "Castro's single-party government" by jcr · · Score: 0, Troll

      I don't care what Trump says about anything. The Castros are mass murdering kleptocrats, and they would still be mass murdering kleptocrats if Trump had never existed.

      -jcr

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      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    3. Re:"Castro's single-party government" by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      The word is "dictatorship". Or, if you prefer: "tyranny".

      Theses are not synonyms. The dictator handles all powers for the sake of general interest. Many democracies have provisions for such a status if the country is hit by a serious crisis that render normal institutions unable to operate. The Tyran also handle all powers but its power is illegitimate.

    4. Re:"Castro's single-party government" by jcr · · Score: 1

      I reject your premise that a dictatorship can be legitimate.

      -jcr

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      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  7. Google is also a political mission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and you should not let U.S. political missions get any control over your communications.

  8. "Convoluted paths"? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Is Cuban internet service routed through Europa or something? Because it's hard to come up with of a terrestrial path which would add a noticeable delay, in and of itself.

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    1. Re:"Convoluted paths"? by agm · · Score: 1

      Yes indeed. I live in New Zealand which is probably the second most remote large land mass for internet access behind only Antarctica (and maybe Iceland) and our internet connection to the rest of the world is quite acceptable. I enjoy 80Mb/s to servers in Europe. Cuba's internet issues have very little to do with geography.

    2. Re:"Convoluted paths"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      300-600ms round trip though, depending where the transit goes.

      Bit different to the 30ms local content.

    3. Re:"Convoluted paths"? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1
      Honestly, this picture makes me wonder whether NZ doesn't actually have better connectivity than Australia.

      Cuba's internet issues have very little to do with geography.

      So, if the embargo-ing United States weren't the closest well-connected place (to which everyone else in the region apparently connects), things would be no different for Cuban connectivity?

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  9. Re:WTF is this BS Slashdot? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Associated and Larry are first cousins.

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  10. stop making excuses for yourself, america by nimbius · · Score: 2

    Cuba suffers from some of the world's slowest internet speeds due to a range of problems

    Oh, i can think of only one. how about a 60 year embargo imposed by the United states and maintained solely as a talisman for other states to gaze into should they have the audacity to challenge or refuse Washingtons foreign policy. What cuba did was nothing short of goddamn heresy in the early sixties. While most south american countries enjoyed rule by one of washingtons satellite plutocrats, Castro had the gall to thumb his nose at more than a dozen attempts on his life. While Nicaraguan families cowered from American Contra soldiers, Castro nationalized industry and expanded healthcare. And when america realized their last entry into central and south american politics was through Cuba, they acquiesced and suddenly became best friendos with a nation that has almost never shared the policy of profiteering Google seeks to introduce.

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    1. Re: stop making excuses for yourself, america by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of that is nice if you ignore that Cuba is garbage.

  11. Much needed attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad to see that Cuba's internet is finally getting some attention. Here in Cuba, New Mexico it's really hard to get any research done when we have to fight for connectivity with all our friends and family lined up in front of the library. I guess it's a chance to get together and gossip a little. BTW, Raul Castro is not the president. As manager of the feed store, he plays an important role in our village, true, but he's not the president. Did he say he was? Maybe I'll read the article and find out, but my time on the internet has expired and mi abuela will get my slot. Oh well.

  12. Looking for bias where there is none alert! by radarskiy · · Score: 1

    If the number of people allowed to access the internet is limited, that would mean that those allowed get a greater fraction of the available bandwidth.

    Why do you hate the Pigeonhole Principle?

    1. Re:Looking for bias where there is none alert! by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Why do you think that the Pigeonhole Principle has anything to do with the Cuban Communist Party's ban on individual Internet access?

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  13. I Thought U.S. Businesses Were Barred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought U.S. businesses were barred form doing business in or with Cuba, save for a very small few exceptions.

    How is it that Eric can be signing deals and installing a PoP in Cuba without repercussion?

    One thing I do know is that Cuba's internet "woes" are created ENTIRELY by Cuba's government and their choice to restrict its citizens access. But sure, be a Castro propaganda mouthpiece and blame America for it.

    1. Re:I Thought U.S. Businesses Were Barred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's a political mission.

  14. You Clueless Asshat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is America the only country on the planet besides Cuba? What do you suppose stops Cuba from doing business with any and every other country on the face of the Earth. Why does Cuba need America or American trade at all?

    Only one thing stops Cuba from doing business with all the other countries of the world. That ONE thing is that Cuba fails to and/or is unable to pay its bills. Cuba can and does do limited business with the likes of Canada, China, Venezuela, Brazil, U.K. France, Mexico, India, and many more smaller players. But, Cuba's inability to pay its debts makes these countries less willing to do much business with Cuba.

    It all centers around Cuba's Castro government. The same government that traps its citizens, denies them access to the internet, is incapable of growing enough food despite some of the most fertile land in the world... The same government that only two years ago finally made it legal for Cuban citizens to own microwave ovens, FFS!

    Cuba blames all their woes on America, and clueless idiots like you parrot the Castro propaganda about it being all America's fault.

    But that's 100% bullshit. Cuba trades freely with nearby neighbors, including Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. Cuba can, and probably does get internet from Cayman and or Jamaica, highspeed submarine cables service both Islands.But, Castro doesn't permit his people to have internet, certainly not in their homes. No satellite TV either. The Castros can't have the peasants find out the truth about the outside world. He doesn't need more of them escaping(their own words) on rubber inner tubes.

    Get a clue asshat.

    1. Re:You Clueless Asshat by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Castro doesn't permit his people to have internet, (...) The Castros can't have the peasants find out the truth about the outside world.

      Cuba is not North Korea. Personal Internet access is missing, but offline exchange happens thought el paquete, leaving many opportunities to learn about foreign news. Moreover, tourism is strong at Cuba, which is another way though which outside information can enter the country

    2. Re:You Clueless Asshat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      El paquete is bootleg USB distribution of pirated media(movies, TV shows, yes some news too). It is the sneaker-net version of file sharing(BitTorrent). It is also illegal according to Cuban law as, yet again, the Castros try to prevent their people from seeing this stuff. That the Castros have not been successful in eliminating the activity does not mean that it is permitted or condoned.

      Nothing you've posted invalidates anything at all in my previous post. That the Castros are unsuccessful in totally blocking out outside information does not, for one second, mean that they are not trying to do exactly that and that their laws work to attempt exactly that.

      Must I reiterate that there is a whole wide world out there for Cuba to interact with? America is only one nation. Cuba's isolation is a result of the Castros choices to isolate the Cuban people.

    3. Re:You Clueless Asshat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a reasonable points hidden in a lot of logic fail.
      Pirated stuff is illegal in almost all places (including the US), are you going to accuse them all that it's because they don't want to see "this stuff"?
      Also America is the closest nation, putting in undersea cables is rather expensive, so that there is a whole wide world out there is pretty much IRRELEVANT.
      Your argument is like telling your neighbour "I'm not preventing you from building a shed, there's a whole wide world out there for you to build one, just don't build it anywhere near here".
      If all that is indeed just a Cuban excuse, maybe it would be time to lift the embargo completely in this aspect and take away the (currently rather convincing) excuse?

  15. Bottes Timberland Pas Cher France by zhenzipen · · Score: 0

    Ok, je m’attends donc à des épreuves très engageantes, à grimper aux arbres, et à aller dans l’eau un 1er mars !Explication du déroulement de la séance, l’appréhension et l’excitation montent !Nous avions rendez-vous à 11h. Au fur et à mesure, les participants arrivent. C’est vrai que nous sommes un peu dissipés, tous curieux et impatients de savoir ce qui nous attend ! Lorsque tout le monde est arrivé, les consignes sont données par notre coach.Il y a deux équipes de six personnes : les jaunes et les oranges. Je découvre mon équipe, les jaunes, certains que je connais déjà, d’autres non, mais je sens qu’on va bien s’entendre. Le chef d’équipe est au courant de chaque épreuve et devra nous les expliquer au fur et à mesure de l’entraînement. Chaque équipe dispose de 4 sacs de sable, d’un sac étanche pour mettre nos rechanges, d’une corde timberland Homme , d’une bouteille d’eau et d’une banane !

  16. BS by Bartles · · Score: 1

    "Cuba suffers from some of the world's slowest internet speeds due to a range of problems that include the convoluted, and thus slower, paths that data must travel between Cuban users and servers that are often in the U.S"

    Yes. That's why it's slow. It couldn't be for any other reason at all. Just convoluted paths....

  17. Cuba's internet speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cuba suffers from some of the world's slowest internet speeds due to a range of problems

    Has the person who wrote this ever been to Cuba?
    I've been to Cuba a couple of months ago.
    Before traveling I read in numerous places that there is almost NO internet is Cuba, that the internet speed is soooo slow you cannot surf anywhere, etc.
    Guess what? Yes, internet is not widely available (mostly major plazas, hotels, post office), BUT wherever it was available the speed was more than adequate. I was able to easily upload a bunch of pictures to Facebook in less than a minute and a 2min HD video in a few minutes!