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SpaceX Delays First Crewed Flight Of Its Dragon Capsule For NASA (theverge.com)

NASA says the first crewed test flight of SpaceX's Dragon vehicle has been delayed until May 2018. From a report on The Verge: In the wake of its September 1st rocket explosion, SpaceX has officially delayed the first crewed flight of its Crew Dragon vehicle -- the capsule that the company is building to take NASA astronauts to and from the International Space Station. Originally planned for late 2017, the first flight of the Crew Dragon with people on board is now slated to take place in May of 2018, according to a NASA blog post. Prior to that flight, SpaceX will perform a demonstration mission of Crew Dragon in November 2017 -- a flight that won't include any astronauts. There had been heavy speculation that the flight would be delayed following the accident, in which a Falcon 9 rocket exploded as it was being fueled on a Florida launch pad. And SpaceX says the move was made as the company finalizes its investigation into the accident. "As this investigation has been conducted, our Commercial Crew team has continued to work closely with NASA and is completing all planned milestones for this period," SpaceX said in a statement to The Verge. "We are carefully assessing our designs, systems, and processes taking into account the lessons learned and corrective actions identified. Our schedule reflects the additional time needed for this assessment and implementation."

39 comments

  1. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can't stop progress for every bump in the road!

    1. Re:Why? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We can't stop progress for every bump in the road!

      The fueling explosion mishap set their schedule back by several months and the crew mission is being delayed by several months.

      Frankly, it would have been actual news if the crew schedule had remained fixed and not pushed back by the overall delay.

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    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      while parent poster is clearly a troll, he's stumbled upon the truth that SpaceX really did blow off 50 years of space engineering discipline in order to undercut ULA. I saw it while pencil-whipping their space certification. Not a chance in hell that I'd ride that thing.

    3. Re:Why? by waimate · · Score: 1

      Except that Space ex has done jack shit towards progress. They can't even fuel there piece of shit death trap without it blowing up. Their rockets have major design flaws due to cutting corners to them cheap.

      But they *can* spell

    4. Re:Why? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

      Not a chance in hell that I'd ride that thing.

      I bet you're just waiting for the phone to ring so you can say "no". :-)

      I have a feeling for those ships,
      Each worn and ancient one,
      With great bluff bows, and broad in the beam:
      Ay, it was unkindly done.
      But so they serve the Obsolete -
      Even so, Stone Fleet!

      To scuttle them - a pirate deed -
      Sack them, and dismast;
      They sunk so slow, they died so hard,
      But gurgling dropped at last.
      Their ghosts in gales repeat
      Woe's us, Stone Fleet!

      - Herman Melville

    5. Re:Why? by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      We can't stop progress for every bump in the road!

      But we can slow down so that we don't go over the edge of the bridge every time we hit a bump in the road. They have safety concerns and are taking steps to mitigate them.

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  2. Another SpaceX post=another salvo of space nutters by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Anybody have an over-under on how many times the phrase "Space Nutter" will appear in these comments?

  3. Re: Another SpaceX post=another salvo of space nut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snake putter!

  4. Re: Another SpaceX post=another salvo of space nut by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1

    Snake putter!

    So just between you and me, I count two-and-a-half instances.

  5. Translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crew quits and runs screaming for the door; new crew being sought.

  6. Previously announced on 1 Sept by frank249 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The tunnel crack problem was discovered in Jan 2015 so they have had awhile to work on it. This was first revealed on 1 Sept 2016 in the Commercial Crew program update.

    'NASA Program officials anticipate SpaceX will encounter additional delays on the path to certification. For example, in January 2015, the tunnel that provides a passageway for astronauts and cargo between the Dragon and the ISS was reported to have cracked during the heat treatment phase of the manufacturing process. As a result, SpaceX delayed qualification testing by approximately one year to better align the tests as SpaceX moves toward certification. SpaceX has also experienced ongoing issues with stress fractures in turbopumps that must be resolved prior to flight.23 Additionally, SpaceX has not yet completed parachute system level testing which may reveal issues that would require redesign that could further delay the test flights. Accordingly, we anticipate additional schedule slippage and do not expect certified flights by SpaceX earlier than late 2018.'

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    1. Re:Previously announced on 1 Sept by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      personally, I am far more concerned about SpaceX solving their 2nd stage issue. Hopefully, they really have found it.

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    2. Re:Previously announced on 1 Sept by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      also, note that was for CERTIFIED flight.
      They will likely send up crews before the full certification.

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    3. Re:Previously announced on 1 Sept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      also, note that was for CERTIFIED flight.

      They will likely send up corpses before the full certification.

      Fixed that for you. Hopefully the FAA gives space ex the smack down become they willfully commit murder in their flying death trap.

    4. Re:Previously announced on 1 Sept by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      and yet, their abort proved successful.

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    5. Re:Previously announced on 1 Sept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and yet, their abort proved successful.

      No it hasn't. They never tested it under true conditions.

    6. Re:Previously announced on 1 Sept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and yet, their abort proved successful.

      Watch the abort video again and listen to the commentary. It gets very quiet when they realize how close the capsule was to the launch pad when it came down. Prior to the test, news releases were claiming that the capsule would land a mile or so offshore. It splashed down in the breakers.
      Of course they claimed a successful test, but I think they had a serious under-performance of their capsule propulsion system.
      No real proof; just my $0.02.

  7. Terrible news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For Elon Musk fanbois. Trump will put him out of business anyway.

    1. Re:Terrible news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comrade Putin demands that his puppets attack SpaceX, so that his 60 year old poorly jerry-rigged rockets have a bigger share of the space launch market.

      Donald Trump will obey his master Vladimir Putin, and is appointing a secretary of state that will help out Putin's instructions.

    2. Re:Terrible news! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Trump will put him out of business anyway.

      That's silly. SpaceX is Made in the USA and he wants to mostly shut down NASA anyway. Maybe leave a few people to open and close the gates for SpaceX.

      Snarkiness aside, NASA is rushing back to doing Aeronautics. They're no dummies.

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    3. Re:Terrible news! by dallaylaen · · Score: 1

      Trump will put him [Elon Musk] out of business anyway.

      Yeah, must do so in order to bring back the manufacturing jobs from that foreign SpaceX to America's Roskosmos!

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  8. Boeing, Sierra Nevada, and SpaceX all delayed. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative

    Boeing had earlier said they would be delayed in providing a man-ready CST-100 spacecraft. Boeing's spacecraft is supposed to be compatible with several rockets (including the SpaceX Falcon 9) but probably would launch on an Atlas V. Sierra Nevada, well I'm having trouble taking them seriously and always have, there's no chance that Dream Chaser will be ready before the others. Nor will Blue Origin.

    1. Re:Boeing, Sierra Nevada, and SpaceX all delayed. by WindBourne · · Score: 3

      well, BO's new shep. capsule will not work for orbital work. As such, they are not in the running on this.
      Likewise, SNC is not developing a crewed version, at this time. They are strictly focused on cargo.

      It would be nice to see Dragon V2 work on other launchers. In particular, Atlas or Delta. I suspect that Dragon will be ready much sooner than cst-100.

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    2. Re:Boeing, Sierra Nevada, and SpaceX all delayed. by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      ...there's no chance that Dream Chaser will be ready before the others. Nor will Blue Origin.

      well, BO's new shep. capsule will not work for orbital work. As such, they are not in the running on this.

      Blue Origin has announced follow-on to the New Shepard spacecraft, the "New Glenn", which will be designed for orbit: http://www.space.com/34034-blu...

      However, I think the original poster is correct: New Glenn is not anticipated to be operational on a fast enough schedule for space station crew launch, which needs a vehicle in 2018.

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    3. Re:Boeing, Sierra Nevada, and SpaceX all delayed. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

      I surmise that WindBourne brought this up because so many people need to be to have it explained to them that New Shepard is not an orbital rocket. By now, we just start explaining every time Blue Origin is mentioned. No surprise, really, that most people don't have it clear in their heads how much additional energy it takes to go into orbit rather than just to really high and fall down again.

    4. Re:Boeing, Sierra Nevada, and SpaceX all delayed. by WindBourne · · Score: 2

      there are ppl on this site that have still not heard of BO, and others that read about it about for the first time with your post.
      They just need to understand that it will be a while before humans launch and that SpaceX and Boeing really are all that we will have for the next 4-5 years.

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  9. Talk about dodging a bullet by AlanObject · · Score: 2

    Can you imagine being one of the designated crew? I wonder what they will be doing for the next 2 years or so while the launch moratorium is in effect. It doesn't make sense for them to just sit around drawing a salary but maybe that's exactly what they get.

    In the words of John Young, first shuttle pilot: if you aren't a bit nervous you really don't know what is going on. Two years is a long time to sit thinking about it.

    1. Re:Talk about dodging a bullet by SpaceDave · · Score: 2

      It doesn't make sense for them to just sit around drawing a salary but maybe that's exactly what they get.

      No, astronauts don't just sit around. If you add up the hours of an astronaut's career you'll see that even those with the most flight time spend almost all their time on the ground except a few relatively short stints in space. They are involved in all sorts of activities including R&D, developing missions, testing procedures, etc. It's a busy life. Most astronaut's I've spoken to say you have to treat the actual spaceflight as the icing on the cake rather than the focus of the job.

  10. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did they have to recalibrate the 3D printer?

  11. Yeah right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    NASA probably shouldnt have blown it up in the first place, but i guess it was their only choice seeing as they where encroaching on their territory and would have figure shit out if it had gotten further.
    SpaceX or ANY other space related activities wont ever be allowed in space for real.

  12. you funny man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You funny man. SpaceX is in the running only because the congress deliberately sabotaged ULA and the executive directed the Air Force to pencil-whip SpaceX's certification in spite of not having a rigorous design process.

  13. Re:Another SpaceX post=another salvo of space nutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depends how many times people think we'll colonize Mars because we have an upper atmosphere tree-house for autistics.

  14. Re:Not a good time for Elon to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If he wants to pursue private cargo and doesn't need government contracts anymore, it doesn't matter. There's a whole lot of baggage with government contracts.

    The government paid to develop an alternative launch vehicle, which they can launch if they want. If the government doesn't want to use it, I'm sure a good businessman can find other customers.

    Is the government business profitable enough to deal with the next President? Evidently not, according to his judgment.

  15. What are you going to pick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hot Astronauts

  16. Crude excuse for crewed by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 0

    I see the SJW set has fully invaded slashdot copy editing. No matter. I choose to read that headline as "manned flight"

  17. Re:Another SpaceX post=another salvo of space nutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or more likely, how long you've been off your meds...