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YouTube Bans North Korea's State-Owned TV Channel (asiancorrespondent.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Asian Correspondent: YouTube has blocked North Korea's state television channel, purportedly to avoid breaching U.S. sanctions against the totalitarian state. The Korean Central Television's page, which broadcasts breaking news videos including Pyongyang's nuclear tests and leader Kim Jong Un's outings, now has a message saying "the account has been terminated for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines." YouTube's community guidelines bans harmful, dangerous, violent and graphic content, as well as videos that violate copyright laws or that contain threats and that may incite others to commit violence. According to The Washington Post, the action to terminate the account was taken in November because the North Korean government could earn money from YouTube through advertisements, which would in turn violate a U.S. directive that bans any person or company from doing business with the hermit state.

55 comments

  1. But muh funny! by ErikTheRed · · Score: 3, Informative

    North Korea's hilariously biased and propagandistic channel is amazingly even worse than what we get here for domestic consumption.

    Although that may be debatable... it's not like North Korea got lied into multiple wars in the Middle East...

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    1. Re:But muh funny! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      No, they just get to starve to death and be executed at the whim of a fat midget with a Napoleon complex.

      Napoleon would never be caught in that hairdo.

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    2. Re: But muh funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you seen Napoleon's hairstyle?

      I think Napoleon would have wet dreams about the amount of hair Kimmy has.

    3. Re:But muh funny! by mukinrestak · · Score: 1

      There's still the english language version of Rodong Sinmun (The state newspaper) for when you need your Best Korea jollies.

  2. Please link to a credible source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Washington Post?

    1. Re:Please link to a credible source by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Care to suggest what you think would be a credible source, Mr. AC?

      [Can't wait to see this...]

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    2. Re:Please link to a credible source by The-Ixian · · Score: 2
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    3. Re:Please link to a credible source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MSNBC

    4. Re:Please link to a credible source by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry, Alex Jones is too busy covering gay tadpoles to write a story about this.

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  3. Wrong choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They could have kept any ad revenue in a trust for when N. Korea freed itself from despotic Kim resigm or Korean reunification. Reunification alone will be multi-decade and multi-billion dollar per year project. Think German reunification in steroids. Whole population will need to be unbrainwashed and whole generation of people have to be provided for by the South Korean government.

  4. A convoluted post... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if the WaPo is right and the account was terminated because of US sanctions and NK making money from advertising, why did the OP include the sentence about the community guidelines? To have people focus on the copyright, threats, and/or violence part of the sentence?

  5. Not my argument by s.petry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now we get less media about the bad behavior of the DPRK and less examples of Government propaganda to scrutinize. The US Constitution was the first to codify a freedom of speech. Nowhere does it say one should or can censor information. Why? The best way to come to good conclusions is to see the bad arguments as well as the good, and the fastest way to come to those conclusions is by having more information available.

    Youtube does not have to pay the DPRK for views like it does others, so that is not the issue. This is about showing how "good" censorship is to set the normal for everyone else. Shame on Youtube!

    Before posting how Youtube is not Government, notice that I did not say they were. My point is about ideology, not about Government.

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    1. Re:Not my argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are other channels that carry most or all known DPRK videos. I think youtube just cut the official channel because allowing it to continue could constitute support of the regime.

      That said, those videos are extremely interesting to watch. They offer a view in to the warped world of NK. The obviously low production quality also gives insight in to just how few resources they have (We're talking 90s era mail order straight to DVD production quality), and how far they are behind. Any high school kid with a macbook, a copy of FCP, and access to tutorials on youtube could churn out something far more professional.

      Also fascinating is the"Squirrel and hedgehog" propaganda cartoon.

      https://www.youtube.com/user/dprksquirrels/videos

      Aside from being a strange propaganda piece that pushes the Korean reunification idea, it's actually a fairly entertaining kids cartoon.

    2. Re:Not my argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good post!

      In b4 some moron tries to wrongfully argue that censorship can only be done by the government.

    3. Re:Not my argument by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Before posting how Youtube is not Government, notice that I did not say they were. My point is about ideology, not about Government.

      Then what has the Constitution got to do with it?

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    4. Re:Not my argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now we get less media about the bad behavior of the DPRK and less examples of Government propaganda to scrutinize.

      Nope, you can still examine it. Entirely on your own.

      Nowhere does it say one should or can censor information.

      It does, however say a lot about the ways you can and cannot make money.

      The best way to come to good conclusions is to see the bad arguments as well as the good, and the fastest way to come to those conclusions is by having more information available.

      Nope. That actually does little, and sometimes causes more harm. It's the naivete of "If only people knew more, they're know better" when that's provably less true than you think.

    5. Re:Not my argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before posting how Youtube is not Government, notice that I did not say they were.

      Yes you did exactly that, by attempting to hold Youtube to a standard of law that explicitly applies only to governments.

      If you didn't claim Youtube was a government, you wouldn't have mentioned a law that only applies to government, but instead would have mentioned a law that applies to "we the people", which is the thing you actually didn't claim.

    6. Re:Not my argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best way to come to good conclusions is to see the bad arguments as well as the good, and the fastest way to come to those conclusions is by having more information available.

      That sounds good. Unfortunately, we just had an election where the winner continually told his followers not to trust pretty much anyone but him. He said everyone was out to get him and you couldn't trust the legit sources of news. Even now he mostly avoids any kind of traditional press and just communicates through twitter, so he can talk without being questioned. Now, to me it was obvious he was nothing more than a low life con man, but he was and is effective at it. Sure he had to have Putin's help, but even there it illustrates the point. He just says every legitimate source of information (intelligence agency) is wrong, and he is right, and so far it seems to be working.

      Now the good information was out there. I suspect many people simply didn't believe it. I don't think carrying everything regardless of content is the answer. The best I can suggest would be to carry it but add a neutral unbiased (as best you can) fact check to the content, perhaps in the beginning of the video, and then make it unskippable. That way, at least people really are informed. Sure some won't believe even that, but maybe some will stop to really research the issue.

      I just pray that Monday somehow sanity prevails and we don't end up with Trump, though we probably will. There are so many ways he is unsuitable, but just the latest of continuing to deny what 17 intelligence agencies have said. You can't run a country without relying on their work, yet he puts his own gut feeling ahead of the result of all those hard working Americans? That plus his lack of divestment and all his conflicts of interest just make him flat out unqualified. I know there is no chance that the winner of the popular vote will get it, but at this point It would be a massive sigh of relief for me just to end up with someone like Romney or McCain, or well really even any of the other republicans. None of them were this bad. Hell the only worst choice that has run is probably Palin, and I don't think even she embraced Putin to this extent.

    7. Re:Not my argument by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The fine summary has the answer. It explains that this is allegedly being done to avoid falling afoul of law. Either we have free speech or we don't, eh?

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    8. Re: Not my argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, no. "Free Speech," like other rights, is limited-even in the USA...

  6. Question by Sartr · · Score: 1

    So why didn't they just turn off the monetization option on North Korea's channel instead of banning them outright? Not that I'm complaining about missing their horrible propaganda, but this is surely the first step of their plan to remove dissent from the internet.

  7. Or... by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

    Or they could just demonetize the offending channel if sending them money is the problem? It's entirely up to Google whether or not to send NK money for things on their channel. Not like NK is going to sue them in a US court over it or something.

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  8. It's not pronounced like that... by NeoGeo64 · · Score: 0

    They always say "North Career" in their propaganda films.

    1. Re:It's not pronounced like that... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Well, then adjust your text to voice software. I didn't see anything pronounced here...

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  9. Wait, that was a thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did I not know about this before now? It sounds interesting/hilarious. Were there subtitles? (No, youtube's autogenerated subtitles don't count)

    And just disable monetization, holy shit. Silicon Valley really is becoming the Ministry of Truth. Easier for them than the government; no pesky first amendment to get in the way.

  10. What? Unpossible! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 0

    All Glorious Leader! All The Time! He so ronery after all...

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  11. That's bullshit by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    That's bullshit. Just turn off monetization for their channel. They do it to other people all the time for lessor reasons. WTF is going on here?

    1. Re: That's bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. I came to post the same thing but you beat me to it.

  12. The fight against fake news by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Ok, I can see where this is coming from, but if propaganda is out now, pretty much every news outlet along with every blogger would have to get banned. What's left is cat videos.

    Then again... I doubt it would lower quality noticeably...

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    1. Re:The fight against fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You expect these standards to be applied evenly across the board? To everyone? Lmfao. I guarantee CNN/WaPo/NYT/etc. all have permanent spots on the whitelist for this bullshit.

      It's only "propaganda" when your opponents are putting it out.

    2. Re:The fight against fake news by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      Ok, I can see where this is coming from, but if propaganda is out now, pretty much every news outlet along with every blogger would have to get banned. What's left is cat videos.

      Then again... I doubt it would lower quality noticeably...

      And you don't think that cat videos fall into the same CATegory? Cat videos are all about propaganda. It paints cats in a PURRfect light. But the TAIL is so much more duplicitous, they are pure evil and up to no good... At least, that's what my sister's dog tells me... Them and squirrels...

  13. he he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nyt, cnn, wapo and msnbc does not like competition

  14. Wahhabi and zionist terror states are dandy, tho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No nation on this Earth are more despicable than the partners-in-blood and terror, Israel and Saudi Arabia. But these Siamese Twins never have to worry about having their anti-Human propaganda wiped from anywhere on the Net.

    While Google is busy dropping North Korea into the Orwellian memory hole, it is busy desiging the AUTONOMOUS MURDER MACHINES that it hopes Saudia Arabia and Israel will use to 'safely' genocide the population of Iran (I trust everyone here knows Google is the no.1 military robot R+D company on the planet). But then, "do nothing but evil" has always been Google's motto.

  15. Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the true reason for blocking the channel was due to concerns of ad revenue, then use the existing mechanisms for blocking monetisation.

  16. Switch to Twitter, @DPRK_News! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DPRK news is best news.

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    of course it's parody you fools

  17. "doing business" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's completely legal for American citizens to visit North Korea. Any money spent there goes to the Kim regime. Isn't that "doing business"?

    1. Re: "doing business" by dj245 · · Score: 1

      No. Transportion of individuals and their belongings (your flight in), accommodations for a private individual (your hotel), etc are not mentioned in any of the piles of sanctions. And Americans can, to this day, send money electronically to a tour company based in China and receive a DPRK visa (delivered to Beijing for you to pick up there) in a couple of weeks. Take it from a guy who went there in 2013. "USA has very nice people but we don't like your government" was the attitude that North Koreans came to me with. The 8-day tour was hugely helpful for me to learn how to understand the reasoning of people from VERY different backgrounds.

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  18. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    US government censors government propaganda it is opposed to. Or at least that would be the title if this happened in another country that we aren't happy with.

  19. Excuses for censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    North Korean propaganda is so B-52's and volcanoes over the top anyone not already hopelessly brainwashed just finds it amusing for the shock value and quickly loses interest.

    North Koreans really need to ditch high strung bitches continuously shouting and tone it down to VOA/RT/CNN/Havana levels. You have to be willing to provide at least some useful or entertaining information if you expect to garner any type of audience.

    Regardless you can just not allow people to collect profits from the videos saying your banning them for the stated reason on its face is malarkey.

  20. The Hermit State by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole state will soon reach Enlightenment due to this extensive period of contemplation.

      On the subject, Youtube should have the ability to restrict or deny ad revenue case by case basis to avoid unnecessary removal of content. Call it the "non-profit" content class. It would be better for the society, it would be better for the world.

  21. Get rid of the ads for this stream by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

    If the goal is to organize the world's information, it doesn't make any sense to drop the only source of information from the DPRK. Granted it's a terrible source, but this solution still makes no sense. It's reasonable to try to identify fake news. Maybe this channel deserves a disclaimer. But to cut it off is really inane. I wonder if this was reviewed by a human or just an algorithmic failure.

  22. The camel's nose is now well into the tent by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    This is their move into politics. Like kiddy porn and similar red button stuff, North Korean broadcasting is the far end of the spectrum. But it is a spectrum. I would expect the standards to slowly shift to the point where anything the US fuhrer of the moment deems inappropriate will be censored.

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  23. Leave it unbanned by phorm · · Score: 1

    But don't allow the posts to block or censor comments... that should make for fun times.

  24. So lrt. E get this straight by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

    A site thst offer frree (as in beer) hosting and streaming foe videos decides to not offer that free service to a certain (person, urganisation, wharever) and this is news? Ok I'll admit, yputube has (at least to a lot of people) become synonymous with interner video (appart from porn), but tha fact remains "He who pays the bills decides what gets shown, was it lightly that this nk propagand. Hannel recived to many ad dollars or eas youtube actualy footing the bill for distributing nk propaganda?

  25. So this must be how the Chinese feel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does it feel to not be able to see what (((they))) don't want you to see?

    1. Re:So this must be how the Chinese feel by aevan · · Score: 1

      Sad. Now I'll never know how Squirrel and Hedgehog ends. The wolves are awesome.

  26. But Youtube is not a US company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Owned by Google, it's Irish.

  27. Too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I might not agree with how North Korea is run, I think there is just as much anti-North Korea propaganda from the West.

    The top 1% doesn't want the peasants to get any ideas and nationalize things. But, building nuclear weapons seems pretty wasteful too, and the sanctions can't help. But, being outside the global monetary banking system might not be the worst idea either. If they bicycled more, lifted the ban on porn, and produced more domestic energy, life might not be horrible.

    1. Re:Too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North Korea's military is fantastically huge, although lacking in fuel and food to function adequately. It's also the only country with a military that big that doesn't and cannot design and build its own jet fighters for one thing. I'll do the most armchair of comments there, but let's say they would need a hundred of equivalents of the F35 fighters for a credible defense, that would be multiples of the yearly GDP right there (spread over a few decades).

      Insofar, the Dear Leader is building nuclear weapons to save money. It's the official policy of Byungjin, which Kim Jong Un introduced a few monthes after his 30th birthday in a reign-defining speech. It's about developing nuclear weapons and the economy at the same time, to replace the Songun policy of Kim Jong Il, which consisted in military maneuvers made for TV where a hundred artillery pieces fire a crapton of rockets and shells on wooden hills or barren islets, with a dozen small pretend air strikes in between.
      One visible consequence will be to see a few more men in dark blue suits and a few less men in green uniforms.

  28. Re:Wahhabi and zionist terror states are dandy, th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    off his meds again

    NURSE!

  29. Re:Wahhabi and zionist terror states are dandy, th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You people haven't got around solving your religious problems with a proper war, diplomacy or ecumenism. How many centuries this self-loathing and self-repression has to go on? You'll just make sure your cultural and economic competitiveness is terrible in terms of the whole religious community. It just like domestic violence, it is inherited and it destroys your communities and prevents wealth and knowledge accumulation. There is not much time either, as oil is running out.