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Uber Gives Cities Free Travel-Time Data (usatoday.com)

Uber is now "leveraging anonymous GPS information from hundreds of thousands of online Uber vehicles" using a new tool called Uber Movement. An anonymous reader quotes USA Today: Uber is going to make urban traffic and mobility data gleaned from its millions of drivers and riders using the Uber app freely available to all. The data, which shows anonymized travel times between points in cities, will be available on a public website called Uber Movement. Uber says it will first invite planning agencies and researchers to access the information and then make the website free to the public... The San Francisco-based company decided to release the data when it realized it had "this very valuable but untapped resource for understanding a city's transportation infrastructure," said Andrew Salzberg, Uber's head of transportation policy...

Pegged to a transportation conference in DC on Sunday, the release is also likely is a bid to gain some goodwill with cities, with which Uber has often had bare-knuckled fights over regulation... Uber Movement doesn't map individuals rides, but rather segments of rides, focusing on travel time between specific points... The Uber data will give cities a low-cost way to do high-resolution travel time analysis

Boston's chief information officer says the new tool "gives people tools to ask us questions. That's really powerful."

26 comments

  1. Free time travel data? by burtosis · · Score: 3, Funny

    Awesome, tell my girlfriend she really needs to take that pill last month.

    1. Re:Free time travel data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's dumping you and aborting your parasite.

    2. Re:Free time travel data? by burtosis · · Score: 0

      She's dumping you and aborting your parasite.

      Damnit, did they share time travel information from next year also?

  2. Uber's video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uber also worked up a slick 60-second video about it...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:Uber's video by darkain · · Score: 1

      "This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing." GG, howd ya find it?

    2. Re:Uber's video by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Hopefully that address in the video is where someone just plopped down an arrow, and not an indication of the endpoint of any one ride from the dataset...

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  3. Where is Permission and Payment to uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drivers and riders did not giver permission for data to be collected to be provided to Government.
    Just because you can, doesn't mean source of data gave knowledgeable permission...or even had a chance to say no to not have that data collected and forwarded to the government.

    If that data is given to the government, the it is now available for ANYONE to request from the government...great way to stalk an ex-girlfriend

    1. Re:Where is Permission and Payment to uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure it's in the terms somewhere.

    2. Re:Where is Permission and Payment to uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drivers and riders did not giver permission for data to be collected to be provided to Government.
      Just because you can, doesn't mean source of data gave knowledgeable permission...or even had a chance to say no to not have that data collected and forwarded to the government.

      If that data is given to the government, the it is now available for ANYONE to request from the government...great way to stalk an ex-girlfriend

      How do you think Uber employees stalked their exes, politicians and Beyonce? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/uber-employees-stalked-exes-politicians-beyonce-article-1.2909429

  4. I don't believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uber won't even give data to its own partners even when it is the partner's own data. They aren't just going to give any data away to anyone, ever.

  5. Enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boston's chief information officer says the new tool "gives people tools to ask us questions."

    As one of the people let me say that I'm fed up of tools asking questions, even if they are the bosses.

  6. What can go wrong? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    NYC to Collect GPS Data on Car Service Passengers—Good Intentions Gone Awry or Something Else? https://freedom-to-tinker.com/...

  7. Some thoughts by buss_error · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Like any good drug dealer, the first taste is free. EG: Uber gave it away this time, but wait until the hook is set and then they will charge for it. I wouldn't mind if Uber either gave me a discount or let me opt out. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
    2. Anonymous today, meta-data tomorrow if not yesterday. Big data is just another way to say Big Brother.

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    1. Re:Some thoughts by tempo36 · · Score: 1

      I don't really see a strong reason to let passengers opt out. By stepping foot in the car, you know, by definition, that Uber is receiving GPS data from the route. It's how they bill you. What they do with that data is up to their EUTOS which I imagine is pretty broad.

      You're the passenger in their contractor's (their definition...open for argument) car...might as well tell the FAA that they need your permission to track the route of the plane while you're on it.

    2. Re:Some thoughts by retroworks · · Score: 1

      Yep. Now that Uber has provided it to Boston Police, etc., "anonymized", it will be difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. Expect 3. Court Subpoenas for non-anonymized data. Uber should develop a plan to dump false or trivial data in if subpoenaed. Deleting data could be a legal violation of the subpoena. Intentionally mixing in random false data points before a subpoena is issued should be legal.

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    3. Re:Some thoughts by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      By similar logic, your doctor should be allowed to sell all your health information. After all, he needs to know your health details in order to treat you and you agree to his terms of service by walking in the door.

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    4. Re:Some thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't fool yourself, your health data is already being sold. (I was a database server administrator at a large hospital)

    5. Re:Some thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Care to tell my why aggrigated anonymized data would not be allowed to be sold by doctors offices?

    6. Re:Some thoughts by microcars · · Score: 2

      Your Anonymized Health Care Data is already available and HIPAA Compliant.
      https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/laws-regulations/index.html
      There are no restrictions on the use or disclosure of de-identified health information. De-identified health information neither identifies nor provides a reasonable basis to identify an individual.
      I don't see this as being any different.
      Actually it is different: they are not tracking YOU, they are tracking the UBER driver's car.

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    7. Re:Some thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Existing taxi services have already provided this anonymous data to the government for years without incident

    8. Re:Some thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's all too often easy to de-anonymize it. Anonymizing data sets can be really difficult, and the more you anonymize health the less useful it becomes.

    9. Re:Some thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MIB has already been doing this for decades. (no, not the alien movie people, the Medical Information Bureau). They provide info about every visit, treatment, prescription, procedure, etc. to insurance companies. HIPAA doesn't apply to them.

  8. Nice move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll be some time until we got this figured out. In the mean time, expect sneaky moves.

  9. More spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is something cab companies already do, and Uber has been refusing. Now that they're complying with city regulations and behaving slightly responsibly, everyone is supposed to be so proud of how helpful they are.

  10. Bandits give king free road conditions report. by Cyberpunk+Reality · · Score: 1

    They're still bandits.

    And the king should still hang them when he catches them.

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  11. Cities: You get what you pay for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Mayor, Contrary to reports, the data has no bias or selection process applied before it was handed off to you. Trust it implicitly. Uber is your BFF. Sincerely, Uber.