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Scottish Government Targets 66% Emissions Cut By 2032 (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from BBC: The Scottish government has outlined a new target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 66% by 2032. Climate Change Secretary Roseanna Cunningham set out the government's draft climate change plan for the next 15 years at Holyrood. She also targeted a fully-decarbonized electricity sector and 80% of domestic heat coming from low-carbon sources. Ministers committed last year to cut harmful CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050, with a new interim target of 50% by 2020. The previous interim target of 42% was met in 2014 -- six years early. However, the independent Committee on Climate Change said the decrease was largely down to a warmer than average winter reducing the demand for heating. Ms Cunningham said the new targets demonstrated "a new level of ambition" to build a low-carbon economy and a healthier Scotland. Goals to be achieved by 2032 include: Cutting greenhouse emissions by 66%; A fully-decarbonized electricity sector; 80% of domestic heat to come from low-carbon heat technologies; Proportion of ultra-low emission new cars and vans registered in Scotland annually to hit 40%; 250,000 hectares of degraded peatlands restored; Annual woodland creation target increased to at least 15,000 hectares per year. The 172-page document sets a road map for decarbonizing Scotland. The aim -- although not new -- is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two thirds by 2032. Among the policies are making half of Scotland's buses low-carbon, full-decarbonizing the electricity sector and making 80% of homes heated by low-carbon technologies.

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  1. I like the Norwegian Show Occupied. by Wild_dog! · · Score: 1

    That show is awesome and this post reminded me of that show in a tangential way.

  2. Daily dose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Thanks for our daily dose of global warming propaganda! I thought this site was about technology..

    1. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Don't worry. When everyone except the richest elite who are jet setting, telling you that you're ignorant and need to do what they tell you and you're fundamentally broke paying for carbon taxes. It'll all work out right? Just like it is in Canada. The entire mood around "carbon taxes" is getting interesting here and I wouldn't be surprised to see mass protests in the near future. We've already hit the "people making choices between heating their homes when it's -40C, or keeping a roof over their head." And said taxes in many places have only been in place for a couple of years.

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    2. Re:Daily dose by KeensMustard · · Score: 2
      Don't want to be informed of things, curl up in a hole and don't come out.

      I'm non-plussed to learn that clean energy technology is somehow not technology.

    3. Re:Daily dose by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      Which part of Canada is going to suffer even if temperatures rise a few degrees?

      I'd think with the exception of a coastal area or two, they'd be trying to figure out how to emit more carbon if they actually thought it would help keep things warmer and create more usable land beyond the southern edge.

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    4. Re:Daily dose by willy_me · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am afraid you are more then a little wrong. For example, in British Columbia around half the lodgepole pine have been consumed by beetles. Why? Because it has not gone below 40 degC in the interior for the decade or two. Takes going below 40 degC for a week to kill the buggers. This has decimated the forest industry and put many people out of work. And this is just one example - wait until the glaciers are gone and Calgary is out of water.

      Climate change actually hits northern countries the hardest. While the US might experience an average increase of 1 degC, Canada will experience an average increase of 3. And while an increase in temperature can be pleasant, if the local infrastructure and environment were not designed (or evolved) to handle it then it brings disaster. Some reservoirs go dry while other areas flood. And half the problems will be such that we can not predict them coming - like the pine beetle example.

    5. Re:Daily dose by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Mashiki, when you hear claims like these being made, you really need to stop and ask yourself it it's another Pizzagate. You fell for that one and many other bits of fake news hook, line and sinker, and I'm afraid it's happened again.

      Scotland is blessed with some of the best renewable energy sources in the world. For them, exploiting those is much, much cheaper than other forms of energy. Coal is competitive on cost, but obviously since they have social healthcare it quickly loses on externalized costs.

      Their plan isn't even particularly radical. They were always aiming for 200% renewable electricity capacity by 2020, but that turned out to be too easy so they set some stretch goals.

      Scotland's oil resources are running out, so they need to find a replacement for that source of income. Their wind resources are exceptional and they can supply huge quantities of clean, renewable energy to the rest of the UK and Europe.

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    6. Re:Daily dose by jandersen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The existence of technology requires science, unless you're talking about the simple tool use we share with other animals, and - brace yourself for this - climate change is and area of science, it really is. Climate scientists, unlike climate change deniers - follow the facts, even when they don't please them by confirming their hopes. Climate change deniers, on the other hand, reject all data that they don't like, no matter how strong, while accepting even the most tenuous hint that offers them comfort. Who is most likely to get to the truth?

    7. Re:Daily dose by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I don't know when Slashdot became so luddite... Geeks should be loving this, we get cool new tech, cars with insane performance and zero emissions, get to rebuild the power grid right this time... We should be doing everything we can to help and make sure it gets done right, but instead it's just endless complaining that it can't possible work (even though it's already working) by armchair engineers.

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    8. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Which part of Canada is going to suffer even if temperatures rise a few degrees?

      None really. But the cost of carbon taxes to keep you warm in the winter? That hits home very quickly. When your electricity prices if you're heating with that go from $0.085kWh to $0.18kWh? This is true in appt. buildings/condos and such in big cites. In many cases you can't change the thermostat if you're renting. In some cases even if you buy in with a condo because the board controls what you can use. When NG prices go up by 50% in a single year? When oil prices spike jump by $0.18/L in two months? Those all make a huge difference. That's what people are seeing in Ontario, and Alberta. Not so much in Saskatchewan or Manitoba. Both provinces which haven't followed carbon tax plans. Lot of people forget that Canada is a place of extreme temperature swings. Though it hit -42C in Alberta this winter and through most of the prairies. The coldest in the most southern part of the province so far has been -22C.

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    9. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      You fell for that one and many other bits of fake news hook, line and sinker, and I'm afraid it's happened again.

      You mean except the part where I said there's an assload of circumstance evidence that should be looked at? Very falling for it. I still stand behind that too. You know why? One, because having been a crown witness(that's a witness for the state) in court cases(at count 13) before there's a lot of similarities between what I've seen in both. Second because of all those lovely politicians, entertainers, elites and so on that have been either caught or "found out" over it(like all those politicians you've got in the UK, and entertainers, and police covering it up) not forgetting your massive problem with child-sex grooming gangs there. You know, like Bill Clinton's 20 odd trips to Pedophile Island on Epstein's private jet. Along with all those other Washington insiders.

      If Scotland actually cared, they'd use coal and use the latest scrubbing technology. Instead they're going with energy sources which like in the UK will drive electricity costs through the roof. You don't hear it hitting the "big news" anymore, but old people freezing to death in your home country because they can't afford electricity still happens quite often. They could even buy the coal from Canada if they wanted, we've got so much of it just sitting in the ground it's stupid. Hell there's parts of Canada that have so much NG that they could supply the US at current levels for nearly 100 years.

      Oh, and just remember: When you try and push a "debunking video", and that person's idea of "discussion" is to not allow any? You know exactly how much faith they put into their view point. And Dan Olsen there got a visit from the RCMP for trying to find child porn to claim GG was pro-pedo, he's simply lucky he didn't get charged and got a warning instead. The definition of "child porn" in Canada is fundamentally different then in the US.

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    10. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Just like those same areas were under 2km of ice 7k years ago. The reality is in Alberta, most of their water isn't from glaciers, it's from the winter snow pack, and lakes built from said spring melts. The real problem with the forests in Western Canada(especially BC), isn't the cold. It's that large sections that have been cut are suffering from "yearly monoculture" planting. Which leads to less resistance to the damned bugs in the first place. Round that out with decades of thinking that no-burn policies aren't any good? Well we've got a hell of a problem now don't we. And when the thing goes up, not only does it have decades of crap on the forest floor. It's got trees that will go up like hay.

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    11. Re:Daily dose by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      A lot of northern communities are being hit hard because they're built on permafrost, which these days isn't too "perma"...

    12. Re:Daily dose by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You mean except the part where I said there's an assload of circumstance evidence that should be looked at?

      Yes, specifically the part where it was investigated by multiple people and you rejected their findings because they didn't fit your existing narrative about senior Democrats being paedophiles.

      This is your problem every time. You reject things that contradict what you want to believe. If something doesn't support your desired truth, you just google a bit more or find a reddit board that will give you the correct evidence.

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    13. Re:Daily dose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I gotta tell you if you don't know that climate science is dominated by a UN/government agenda you are out of touch with reality. Their so called "science" is built on manipulated temperature data---NASA, NOAA have used false data repeatedly.
      It's "scientists" not deniers that reject all data that they don't like, no matter how strong.
      It's "scientists" not deniers assigning temperature data to huge land areas where no instruments exist.
      It's "scientists" not deniers that created models whose projections grossly exceed real data.
      It's "scientists" not deniers that willingly lie, fabricate and hide the truth in order to be paid by the US government.
      It's "scientists" not deniers that constantly predict climate catastrophes that have not and will not happen.
      I'm sure you will not agree with my point of view, fine keep drinking that Kool Aid and worshiping at the altar of Gaia.
      Ironically, Gaia will be very unhappy with those "scientists" if they happen to reduce CO2 a life sustaining gas it needs to be healthy!

    14. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Yes, specifically the part where it was investigated by multiple people and you rejected their findings because they didn't fit your existing narrative about senior Democrats being paedophiles.

      You mean the part where it wasn't investigated by multiple people. Even to the point where a NBC investigative reporter asks the same question "why aren't police investigating this" and it's suddenly scrubbed off their website.

      This is your problem every time. You reject things that contradict what you want to believe. If something doesn't support your desired truth, you just google a bit more or find a reddit board that will give you the correct evidence.

      This coming from the person who holds on to the belief that gamergate is a harassment group, refuses to believe that the people he supported were the actual harassers. That nobody can tie a single GG supporter to an actual case of harassment type of stuff that you refuse to believe. That even the most ardent feminist "safety" groups who've looked are unable to find any proof. Oh the irony of that entire quote.

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    15. Re:Daily dose by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Mashiki, you were pushing the Pizzagate crap right up until that guy went in there with a gun and found nothing. The record is right here on Slashdot, you can't erase it. And well before that happened, multiple media outlets were saying they had investigated and it was complete bunk.

      It was obvious bullshit to most people from the very start. High ranking, power paedophiles decide that the best way to traffic children is to advertise their illegal activities on the street, in case passing paedophiles who they don't know and would be insane to trust spot them and decide to help out. Or maybe it was just because most sat navs don't include "paedophile smuggling house" in their POIs.

      Oh, and of course they used symbols that are well known to law enforcement, a fact that they would certainly have been aware of since their ringleader was the fucking Secretary of State.

      It was actually hilarious until some loon took a gun into a pizza restaurant that it turns out is just a fucking pizza restaurant.

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    16. Re:Daily dose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      40 C ??

      That's fucking hot. Like desert hot. About 105 F.

      If British Columbia had not dropped below 40 C in the last decade or so then that would be some serious fucking global warming!

    17. Re:Daily dose by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Just spoke to someone on another forum -- Ontario resident who has the misfortune to own a house with electric heat. And in the past year their bills went from high but tolerable, to just under $700/month -- with the heat turned down as far as it can be without all the pipes freezing up, and their kids walking around wrapped in blankets.

      The anti-warming types who raise such a fuss every time we have a hot summer are silent when an unusually cold winter kills a lot of people, whether through direct cold or financial hardship.

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    18. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the joys of green energy and carbon taxes. This is what feel-good policies lead to in the end, and you're starting to see the same happen in Alberta. They elected a NDP government that has an even further left policy then the liberal party does.

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    19. Re:Daily dose by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was like... Alberta is the only province that wasn't going down the toilet, why on earth did its voters want to change that? You reap what you vote for, folks...

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    20. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The Alberta PC's(progressive conservatives) had something like 40 years in power. Lot of good leaders, lot of really good stuff done too. The last leader in power? Alison Redford, not so much. Corruption would be far too simple as a way to paint it. Nepotism is too simple as well. If I said that she treated the province like her own personal fiefdom? That would also be too simple. All of those were in play, and the entire thing exploded and the PC's lost power rightfully because of that. I would have been happier to see Wild Rose come into power, but they're still very new to the political scene and you could see that. The entire thing is just a gigantic clusterfuck, AB hates the Liberals with a passion because of what Trudeau Sr. did back in the late 70s with the national energy plan. The NDP had never held power, but this is pretty much the same thing that happened in Ontario back in the 90's I think it was. Liberals were corrupt, the PC's fucked up everything as well. The only option was the untried one and as people have seen, it's leaving nothing but heartache, empty pocketbooks and a world of hurt. And well, every place that the NDP have gotten into power has been a gigantic mess as well. We're likely to see populist leaders start rising here in Canada soon because of all of this garbage though. And if Trump is successful in his whole "US first" policy I wouldn't be surprised if it happens faster.

      If you want to read more on the Redford stuff this article will probably help.

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    21. Re:Daily dose by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I hadn't heard this part, so thanks. Hopefully AB will vote this current mess out before 40 years of prosperity is destroyed beyond recall. I remember when half of Calgary shopped in Great Falls (my home town :) because of high domestic prices and lack of options.

      Really unfortunate when you have no good choices, but "Hold your nose and try the untried" is usually worse. And this craze for voting in "anyone who is not a white male" is bringing us a lot of Hillary Clintons and damn few Maggie Thatchers.

      Best of luck getting it turned around. Canada is America's best friend in the world, and we don't want to lose you.

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    22. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Thanks man. Have a good one, it'll probably take a decade to fix the mess that's going on right now. And it looks like we've started seeing a rise of our own populist candidates against the establishment as well.

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    23. Re:Daily dose by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Sooner the better!

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    24. Re:Daily dose by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Mashiki, you were pushing the Pizzagate crap right up until that guy went in there with a gun and found nothing. The record is right here on Slashdot, you can't erase it. And well before that happened, multiple media outlets were saying they had investigated and it was complete bunk.

      No, actually I wasn't. If you want to lie feel free, but that proof is right there -- in my post history. I mean it's not like you haven't been pushing the actual lie that gamergate is about harassment for 2 years or anything. Or that you've been discredited so hard that you run away every time over it.

      And there's the part where you haven't looked at any of those podesta emails. Just a FYI, there wasn't anything "on the street" rather it was all in emails which repeatedly used similarities. And a second FYI, podesta was never secretary of state. Which is what it revolves around.

      I'm personally not sure which was funnier with that gun bit. The fact that the media claimed that there was a shooting, when there wasn't any. Or that it wasn't actually about pizzagate in the first place. Oops, did you miss the retractions from the media on that one too?

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  3. Re:Trumps Target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah poor liberal losers. Your tears are delicious though.

    Bye bye Obummer!

  4. I'm was searching for a no true scotsman joke by rmdingler · · Score: 0

    Labour's Claudia Beamish, who has put forward a members' bill calling for a fracking ban, said it was a "major let-down" that it was not mentioned in the statement. While she broadly welcomed the draft plan, she said: "If the government was serious about tackling climate change it would back my Bill to ban fracking in Scotland."

    You poor fucking Scots have the same type of no win system as we do.

    Sincerely,

    The Rest of the World

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  5. yeah and how are they going to pay for it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All very laudable and all that, but when an economy like Germany is struggling to get to zero carbon economy. How does the Scottish Government plan to pay for this shift in energy use??

    1. Re:yeah and how are they going to pay for it? by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

      Pay for it? - It's saving them money.

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    2. Re: yeah and how are they going to pay for it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By draining the money from the rest of the UK whilst simultaneously blaming England for everything from the economy to the weather. Or, if the worst happens and they actually get what they "want" - independence from the UK, they'll have an economy built almost entirely on North Sea oil and gas. So they'll start exporting that all while claiming their country is "low-carbon".

    3. Re:yeah and how are they going to pay for it? by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      The obvious solution would be to build a dyke across the Pentland Firth coupled with a bit more pumped storage for which there is ample resources for and Scotland could easily get 100% of it's electricity from renewable's. There is more tidal options in the Solway Firth but that would need to be shared with England I guess.

      Full electrification of the railways in Scotland would help too; at least it's an easy win.

      Scotland has for decades got well over 20% of it's electricity from renewables. There is a potential to take that well over 100% and sell it south of the border. In fact the UK as a whole has tremendous potential for tidal, with the Severn, Mersey and Conway offering really significant generation opportunities, it would be piss easy to push the UK as a whole well over 50% from tidal alone.

  6. Next step... by cheesybagel · · Score: 0

    ...is to intubate Scottish sheep to collect their methane emissions.

    Emission cuts are the XXIst century equivalent of self-flagellation in the Middle-Ages to cure the Black Plague. Pointless.

    1. Re:Next step... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Emission cuts are the XXIst century equivalent of self-flagellation in the Middle-Ages to cure the Black Plague. Pointless.

      So what you're saying is our current plan is useless we need the equivalent of the London fire to burn out the center of the plague?

      What does that look like, a human-made Ice Age?

    2. Re:Next step... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's a false dychotomy... to fix [something I don't want fixed] we would have to [do something ridiculous exteme]. Why? why not make small corrections for long term benefits?

      I don't see why being carbon neutral means we have to re-introduce the black plague. Let alone whip ourselves on the back!

      I do see that you're simply equating progress with oil consumption.

    3. Re:Next step... by matbury6017 · · Score: 2

      Emission cuts are the XXIst century equivalent of self-flagellation in the Middle-Ages to cure the Black Plague. Pointless.

      Cheaper, cleaner, renewable energy that we can get locally is self-flagellation? Please, do go on. Explain that to me.

    4. Re:Next step... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because he thinks that if he denies the reality hard enough, time will go backwards, back to happier days when things were much simpler.
      That's why you can't discuss with deniers, they have left the domain of rationality.

    5. Re:Next step... by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Renewable energy isn't cheaper (all the countries which use it have the highest priced energy in the world and prices rose substantially after the buildup), sometimes isn't cleaner either (e.g. biomass burning is considered as a renewable energy source and consists of burning forest residues).

  7. Dirty water vapour!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its good to see the scotts limiting the amount of evaporation their country contributes to the CO2 force feedback methodology pushed forward by a few universities and many activist organisations under the guise of "United Nations".

    With over 66% of the greenhouse atmosphere over head being this dangerous heat capturing gas as the cause of and primary blame for the peak of temperatures last year (oh, and El ninio).

    Its great to see the Scotts being responsible when it comes to this alarmingly powerful planet warming pollution.

  8. Haggis! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are they going to do with all that extra haggis?

  9. Kick out the liberals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Liberals are known for making long pointless talks about global warming and produce a huge amount of C02 in the process. A quick back of the napkin calculation shows that by removing the liberals and liberal politicians from Scotland and transplanting them to Mexico we could eliminate 55% of Scotlands current carbon emissions. The remaining 11% could easily be combated through more efficient transportation and energy production that will naturally flourish when the bottum feeders are no longer clogging up the Scottish Economy.

    As an additional benefit the deportees will be forced to become productive members of the global economy and get real jobs. The new transplants will find that they have to stop worrying about ( gender inequality | global warming | European Privilege, etc ) and get a real job like plumbing or masonry.

    Of coarse you will have a hard time getting Mexico to accept these people because they have tough immigration policies and do not like to support useless bottom feeders

    1. Re:Kick out the liberals by quonset · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you would like to discuss long pointless talks about global warming with Trump. In his filing for his Scottish golf course, he explicitly mentions the need to build a sea wall to protect it because, wait for it, current scientific evidence points to a rise in sea levels which would increase erosion.

      You can read Trump's own words right here. Let me point out what Trump said in his petition:

      "If the predictions of an increase in sea level rise as a result of global warming prove correct, however, it is likely that there will be a corresponding increase in coastal erosion rates not just in Doughmore Bay but around much of the coastline of Ireland. In our view, it could reasonably be expected that the rate of sea level rise might become twice of that presently occurring. ... As a result, we would expect the rate of dune recession to increase,"

      Of coarse (sic) this is the same guy who has tried to stop construction of wind farms off the coast of Ireland and Scotland and also says wind farms are not economically viable while simultaneously investing in wind farm companies.

      So what was that about producing huge amounts of CO2?

  10. Science is now propaganda?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It's not propaganda, its simple well understood science backed by a mass of empirical observation.
    Pre industrial revolution out CO2 was 280ppm, by the 1950's we'd reached 315ppm, by the year 2000 we'd reached 360ppm. Now we're over 400ppm.

    The temperatures are rising, the oceans are getting more acidic and the chemical mechanisms are well understood.

    Do you think that if you shut enough people up, that CO2 will decline, and global warming stop? How? By what mechanism? Does this chemical reaction involve la-la-la-lanium? Do twitter rants from 'Whiney Orange Victim' affect atmospheric CO2?

    Trump is Putin's pedo puppet president, he'll seed all the agencies with his Trumpskys, so one thing you'll begin to see is a hiding of all that unpleasant empirical data from NASA and NOAA and a new fluffy science. Climate scientists are the cause of global warming. Accountants cause bankruptcy. NATO hacked the elections. Hawaii is really Russian territory, and Trump corp gets the casino and hooker rights.

    1. Re:Science is now propaganda?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you say Trump is bringing hookers? He's gonna make America great! Sign me up!

    2. Re:Science is now propaganda?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why exactly do you think Obama / Hillary were not also Putin's puppets?

      I didn't vote for any of the above, but Obama had 8 years in office when he could have been tough and stood up to Putin. He didn't. The USA became a laughing stock. .Obama did everything and anything to bend over and kiss Russia's big white cock. Now he wants to get tough and worry about national sovereignty? Really? Too little and too late.

    3. Re:Science is now propaganda?? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      I hope they are from Russia. I heard they are the best.

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    4. Re:Science is now propaganda?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely no evidence for it. Do you think we have to default to Putin owning everyone just so you can hate those you don't like for no reason???

    5. Re:Science is now propaganda?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of our intelligence agencies are convinced that Putin ordered the hacking of the DNC and release to Wikileaks specifically to help elect Trump, and help defeat Hillary. If she was in the bag for Putin, she must've done a pretty bad job of it.

    6. Re:Science is now propaganda?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely no evidence for it. Do you think we have to default to Putin owning everyone just so you can hate those you don't like for no reason???

      Hillary's Reset button?

      Obama telling Putin that he'd have great leeway to work with Putin after the 2012 election?

  11. No problem - they've done it before by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Scotland's emissions dropped a massive amount a few decades ago back when Thatcher used the one-off North Sea oil windfall to finance a transition from a UK wide manufacturing economy to a Southern England financial services economy.
    Scotland and the UK in general had not recovered yet.
    So there are not a lot of emissions to cut which doesn't make it a very difficult job.

    1. Re:No problem - they've done it before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Thatcher used the one-off North Sea oil windfall to finance a transition from a UK wide manufacturing economy to a Southern England financial services economy."

      The country is the 11th largest manufacturer in the world, apparently adding 220 billion to the economy:

      http://www.themanufacturer.com/uk-manufacturing-statistics/

      The financial sector contributes 126 billion, admittedly a good chunk of change but still behind manufacturing:

      researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06193/SN06193.pdf

      So the transition in absolute terms is a myth however having a balanced economy is good.

    2. Re:No problem - they've done it before by dbIII · · Score: 1

      The country is the 11th largest manufacturer in the world

      Down from number two or three.

      is a myth

      Calling it such is known as "revisionism", the sort of thing Soviet Russia got up to.

  12. More SNP Bollocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Meanwhile the Govt is in serious debt, the Education system is failing, North Sea Oil is on it's arse and the First Minister is blindly hanging to the concept of Independence #2 [whilst being tied to the EU] despite the EU saying "Non", the UK Government telling them there is snowball-in-hells chance of a 2nd Referendum and Brexit hammering in the final nails.

    Never mind all that - Climate Change Virtue signalling is what we need ! Is BeauHD a shrill for the SNP ?

    How is the 80% of domestic heat from "low carbon heat technologies ?" Most people I know have Gas Central heating not electric. If it's not that is fuel oil. Since when was North Sea Gas low carbon? Or are the Government going to pay to rip out all the Gas Boilers ? [British Gas might have an issue with that].

    As for a "healthier Scotland" - Add a tax of 1000% to Buckfast, Greggs Pie's, Chicken Nuggets and Lamber and Butler fags and you might have a fighting chance at it.

    1. Re:More SNP Bollocks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      How is the 80% of domestic heat from "low carbon heat technologies ?" Most people I know have Gas Central heating not electric.

      Ah but wait until May's hard Brexit crashes the economy. Sitting in a cave burning renewable wood for heat is definitely low carbon.

    2. Re:More SNP Bollocks by magpie · · Score: 3, Informative

      Um...the Scottish government has no debt, it wasn't allowed to get any until the last Scotland bill (even then it is very constrained), the only debt it ,arguably, has is the PFI crap that the labour signed up to. The EU has not said no to an independent Scotland joining (even spain has not said that). What happened to the price of oil (now climbing again) can hardly be blamed on the SNP.

      Oh as for the healthier scotland crap...why are the unionist parties and friends doing all they can to block minimum pricing of booze?

      But facts never get in the way of a good yoon rant.

    3. Re:More SNP Bollocks by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      When they say Scotland is 15 billion in debt in this article, who exactly are they referring to?

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      Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
    4. Re:More SNP Bollocks by magpie · · Score: 1

      That is not actual government debt and is based on the GERS figures that have one heck of a lot of guess work. As I have said the Scottish Gov isn't allowed to have any debt.

    5. Re:More SNP Bollocks by TheNinjaCoder · · Score: 1

      An iScotland would certainly get its share of the UK debt. EU has not said no to Scotland joining after independence, but they have said Scotland can't be in both the UK and the EU. As has the UK, and anyone with an ounce of sense. Minimum pricing for alcohol is blocked by...Court of Justice of the European Union. Was the EU the union to which you referred?

    6. Re:More SNP Bollocks by TheNinjaCoder · · Score: 1

      That's the gap between the money raised in Scotland, and the money spent in Scotland. The reason the Scottish Government "has no debt" (in the sense of a National Debt) is that Scotland is part of the UK and so debt is taken at the UK level. The Scottish Government's expenditure is decoupled from tax raising, although after the 2014 referendum they gained more tax-raising powers. Predictably they've bottled it and rather than increase taxes or living within their means prefer to complain about austerity whilst taking the money from the UK.

    7. Re:More SNP Bollocks by TheNinjaCoder · · Score: 1

      GERS (= Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland, http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Sta...) are the official accounts and signed off by the Scottish Government. The SG has been under the control of the Independence seeking SNP for 10 years. When the oil price was high they were happy to use the GERS figures, but now the price is low, the independence crowd seek to denigrate the figures, although the SG themselves accept the numbers; after all they are responsible for them.

  13. Happy to drill it, just not burn it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yet the SNP are committed to maintaining--if not expanding--North Sea oil and gas operations.

  14. A good start by jez9999 · · Score: 1

    A good start to reducing gas emissions by 66% would be for the SNP to stop talking.

  15. Re:Trumps Target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, I see, when liberals berate trump, it's tears. When YOU berate, and berated for 8 years, Obama, it's, um....

    What?

  16. Climatedot. Just rename the site and have done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with it.
    It's laughable.
    'Greenhouse gases'. Do you mean 'carbon dioxide'? There is no such thing as 'catastrophic man-made global warming'. As for "decarbonized", words fail me.

    The whole thing is a giant shakedown, by people who do nothing whatsoever of value in their jobs.

    www.climatedepot.com
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  17. Scotland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scotland can get cold. You'd think they'd welcome a few degrees of warming. But then again, like the loss of a 'stiff upper lip' in England, all good sense seems to have deserted the Scots. They actually seem to think they could make a go of it as a nation without subsidies from the English.

  18. If a country by pjv936 · · Score: 1

    near the Arctic Circle can significantly reduce its Carbon output then there is no reason why the rest of us can't.

  19. Bravo to Scotland! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kudos to the Scots for taking a cut in their standard of living! Thanks to Scotland's draconian commitment to global religiosity, worldwide greenhouse gas emissions will be cut by 0.0000000023%. Well, that's assuming that China, India, Africa, Indonesia, Brazil, and Thailand don't increase their greenhouse gas emissions, or cut down any more forests.