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Sony PlayStation 4 Is Finally Adding Support For External Hard Drive (playstation.com)

The Sony PlayStation 4's next system update, out now for beta testers, will allow users to connect an external USB hard drive. From company's blog post: It's easy to upgrade the HDD that came with your PS4, but if you're still looking for more storage space on the console, we've got you covered. With this update, you have the option to store content to an external HDD. Just plug a USB 3.0 HDD into your PS4, and voila, you now have more space on the console.

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  1. Re:Just kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was fake news anyway. Everything about the PS4 is fake. Technology is fake. This article is fake, I am fake.

  2. So... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    I predict comments about how someone is never buying anything from Sony ever again because "other OS" for the PS3, CD rootkit fiasco, memory stick instead of SD, beta instead of VHS, etc. Pointless rant that dozens of people will reply to, one of which will include movies released by Sony.

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    1. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am never buying anything sony ever again because all of the aforementioned shit.

      And im still pissed over betamax

      Im going to go cry over here in my safe space now.

    2. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot something about Sony movies...

    3. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not necessary. Thankfully, they seem to be doing a great job of wrecking their own company themselves:

      https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/01/sony-takes-977m-writedown-movies-have-been-flops-dvds-sales-falling/

    4. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony movies killed my potato and raped my lawnmower!

      captcha: zeroing

    5. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm watching TWO Sony movies right now, using my two sony TVs and DVD players

    6. Re:So... by mwvdlee · · Score: 0

      You make it sound like those aren't valid reasons to shun a company.

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    7. Re: So... by tepples · · Score: 2

      And im still pissed over betamax

      Why? Without the ruling in Sony v. Universal that found Betamax recorders legal to sell in the United States, there would be no VCR, no DVR, and probably not even camcorders for the amateur market.

    8. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Out of curiosity, why would you be angry - even jokingly - at Sony about betamax? It's was a good product for its time that gradually lost its market to a competitor - it happens. What did Sony do wrong?

    9. Re:So... by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      The OtherOS issue permanently affected what i buy from Sony. I still have my full phat ps3, and i still have the HDD with PPC Yellow Dog Linux on it.

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    10. Re: So... by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      Not only that, Sony v. Universal set the standard of 'a backup is a backup is a backup, its origin is irrelevant.'.

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    11. Re:So... by RicktheBrick · · Score: 1

      I use to purchase sony cameras at garage sales. I have several sony cameras because they have two problems. First is storage. I have 3 that store pictures on 3.5-inch floppy disks. Who has a computer that uses them anymore? I have a couple more that use memory sticks that come in more than one version and are way more expensive than sd cards. Then there is the battery. I guess they could not use the standard aa or aaa batteries. They do not charge in the camera so one needs a separate charger of which there are a huge number and a lot more than I paid for the camera. I have a nephew that has a ps4 with a 500-gigabyte hard drive. It takes more than 40 gigabytes per game so one can store about a dozen games on it. I looked into buying another hard drive but they made the space for the drive smaller than standard. I am sure they need those couple of millimeters for other reasons than trying to make people buy from them. Sony does a lot to make people buy from them only and at a lot more money.

    12. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget you posted from a Sony AIO mediocre PC built into a mediocre TV.

    13. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should've done the same. Seriously, it was interesting and fun.

    14. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not angry at Sony over betamax.

      He's angry that betamax lost.

      So really, he's angry at all of us VHS-philes.

  3. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Loonix is for loons.

  4. Re:Just kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it existential Friday again already?

    captcha: churchly

  5. bought and paid for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    surprising how many sony shills are on /.

  6. I am glad I didn't know by pjv936 · · Score: 0

    since I connected a USB HD Drive to my PS4 a year ago.

    1. Re:I am glad I didn't know by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      You've been using it for backup/restore, it looks like you'll be able to actually play games off of it once this patch hits for real.

  7. Always assumed by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

    I just assumed that the reason external drives were forbidden in the first place was for copy protection and to make it harder to hack save game data.

    As far as I am aware (and I am not aware of much in this area) some of the more notorious hacks for PS games are from people exporting save game data on older systems to external hard drives then cracking it and re-importing.

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    1. Re:Always assumed by RogueyWon · · Score: 2

      I don't think that's likely to be the case with the PS4. You can already remove the hard drive from the machine pretty easily (and replacing the hard drive is an officially authorised modification that doesn't void your warranty). PS4 hard drives, like PS3 hard drives before them, use an encrypted structure that locks content to the console in question. I'm guessing there will be a requirement to format any external hard drives used in the same way.

      This, incidentally, means it is really important to keep backups (cloud or USB stick) of your PS3/PS4 saves. If your console fails, you will not just be able to stick the drive from it into a replacement console or a PC and get the data off it. Happened to me with my old PS3. Lost five years worth of savegame data.

    2. Re:Always assumed by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 2

      It is almost as trivial to pull the hard drive out of a PS4 if you are a hacker, the root problem is the 2TB limit on laptop hard drives vs. the storage needed for the modern consoles. Hacking was never the issue, I think the concern was more related to game performance and/or they just didn't think anyone would ever need more storage (which is obviously stupid).

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    3. Re:Always assumed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and to make it harder to hack save game data.

      You could backup saves to USB key / external drive any time before this.
      You couldn't use external drive to expand the console HDD storage, install games on it.

    4. Re:Always assumed by avandesande · · Score: 2

      Most game are network now and your 'stuff' is online, so hacking the game isn't nearly as fun.

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  8. Finally by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 2

    Glad to see they are finally fixing this. This was really the one problem that I had with the PS4. The day after I bought my PS4 I upgraded it to a 2TB internal laptop drive, but with every game taking up 40GB plus, it is not that hard to fill up a drive that big, and indeed I recently ran out of space. Contrast this with my Xbone, which I think is the loser in this generation, but at least with Xbone I was able to plug in a 5TB USB3 external drive and was good to go.

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    1. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't used a PS4 yet, but yes XBox One's support for an external drive is a great feature. On XBox 360 it was a real pain in the ass to run out of space, as you had to buy a new drive, move (literally) everything over, and I guess recycle the old drive. I've got a 3TB USB drive connected to my XBox One - let's me install more games and also try more game demos (which can be very large themselves!).

    2. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh?

      The PS4 internal drive has (i think) always been able to work with larger drives, albeit with some issues related to rest mode, but those issues got resolved in an older update some months ago. (3.50 I think).

      (I probably suggest that there are a few games on there that you haven't played in a while and can be deleted as well, it takes what, 1 hour or something to re-download one these days?)

    3. Re:Finally by tepples · · Score: 1

      it takes what, 1 hour or something to re-download one these days?

      That depends on where you live. If you live within range of 12 Mbps cable or fiber with a data transfer allowance of several hundred GB/mo or larger, redownloads can finish overnight. But if you're stuck on DSL, satellite, or fixed cellular, you'll probably need to stick with discs except for sub-2 GB indie games.

  9. 1994 called by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They want their feature back.

  10. They were not forbidden though... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I just assumed that the reason external drives were forbidden in the first place was for copy protection and to make it harder to hack save game data.

    Since the PS3 I've used an external USB drive to do system and game backups. The PS4 even had a way I could backup saves from individual games, so it seems like I could have edited them after... but I'm also assuming the backups were encrypted in some way. If they just have an encrypted FS it seems like it would work just as well to store game data, I wonder if you could go to another person's house with a drive that held your games, log in as yourself and be able to use that HD... hmm.

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  11. Re:Only LUDDITES use hard drives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you mean for those words to come out in that order, or did they just fall out randomly?

  12. Really? by Jahoda · · Score: 1

    So for the past 3.5 years you haven't been able to use a USB hard disk with the PS4? That seems pretty consumer-unfriendly.

    1. Re:Really? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      So for the past 3.5 years you haven't been able to use a USB hard disk with the PS4? That seems pretty consumer-unfriendly.

      Well, you could, with restrictions.

      First, it was for media only, and only FAT32 was supported (no NTFS or other filesystem supporting larger than 2GB files).

      You could move save games onto it, but only if it wasn't blocked.

      Whereas on the Xbone, you could add an external drive and it will appear as internal storage. Thus, even if the internal drive was full, you can still use it as the Xbone can utilize external storage as internal storage. This is because the hard drive was not designed to be removable on the Xbone.

      With this, it also makes switching internal hard drives easier - because you could only move save games around, if you replaced the hard drive you needed to reinstall/redownload all the games again.

    2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "So for the past 3.5 years you haven't been able to use a USB hard disk with the PS4? That seems pretty consumer-unfriendly."

      Was still far more user friendly than all the things Microsoft had originally planned for their users.

  13. Re:Just kidding by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    I skipped work, therefore I am.

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  14. External HDs are nice, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the really exciting news ( at least for me ) is that you can now play 3D Bluerays on the PSVR headset. Unlike glasses, you wont lose half the brightness and it will look like 3D Imax

  15. Why don't you let Sony treat you badly today? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    So this is what the shills have to offer—a blanket and unjustified declaration that people in the know (who presumably read /.) should not only be willing to be treated badly but an attempt at narrowing the scope of allowable debate to exclude reminding people of Sony's horribly bad choices which treat consumers badly ("pointless rant"). Sony's defenders/shills must be seeing the increasing retelling of such stories as a threat, otherwise there would be no need for posts such as the parent post in the first place.