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If You Owned a PC With a DVD Drive You Might Be Able To Claim $10 (theverge.com)

If you owned a PC with a DVD drive more than 10 years ago, you're probably owed $10. From a report on The Verge: A class-action lawsuit is now accepting claims after Sony, NEC, Panasonic, and Hitachi-LG were accused of inflating the prices of optical drives sold to PC makers like Dell and HP. If you bought a PC with a DVD drive between April 1st 2003 and December 31st 2008, you'll be able to claim $10 for each drive as part of the class-action lawsuit. It appears you don't need to provide any proof of purchase -- the settlement administrators are simply collecting names, email addresses, and the number of drives owned at the moment. You'll need to submit a claim before July 1st, and the money won't be released until other defendants in the litigation have settled.

99 comments

  1. tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some lawyer gets rich, and everybody else gets $10. It's not even worth my time to file.

    Oh, and the companies named are just going to just pass the cost on to new customers, so we're all going to get fucked by this.

    1. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by ranton · · Score: 3, Insightful

      everybody else gets $10. It's not even worth my time to file.

      I put a pretty high value on my time, but it just took me about a minute to potentially claim $30. I would have to value an hour of my time at about $2000 for this to not be worth the time to file. Although if I have to cash a physical check the math changes dramatically.

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    2. Re: tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use the mobile banking app on your phone to deposit the check just by taking a picture of it.

    3. Re: tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1
      Why not just pass all your banking info to a lawyer someplace?*
      * I can't believe I got that all out before laughing at myself...

      Also, this is a good little read about banking apps in general...
      http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2016/02/mobile-payments

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    4. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 2

      no kidding, this was the easiest 60$ i probably won't ever get. but if it does... at some point this year... i will be very confused for about 10 seconds and then shout yolo all the way to my mobile banking app.

    5. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> everybody else gets $10

      I just got my check from the Wells Fargo settlement. It was $0.27, for the trouble of having to chase down a credit card opened in my name and a checking account opened with no money and a bunch of $6/mo "maintenance fees" I had to fight.

      $10...isn't that bad, considering.

    6. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ten bucks is ten bucks, eh?

    7. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by torkus · · Score: 1

      You don't have a bank that let's you deposit a check by phone? Even my local credit union supports that.

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    8. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by ranton · · Score: 1

      You don't have a bank that let's you deposit a check by phone? Even my local credit union supports that.

      Honestly my wife deposits all our checks and I've never even looked into what tech our bank supports.

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    9. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Last year I got a check for the DRAM Price Fixing settlement. Many years ago, I got a check for the audio CD settlement.

      I suspect that I'll get my $80 for this one. It'll probably take a 12-18 months but money is money.

      LK

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    10. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      I put a pretty high value on my time, but it just took me about a minute to potentially claim $30.

      That meant you would have to have the record of purchase with specific detail (e.g. receipt + computer spec) as proof too. I doubt that there are many people who still hold on the evidence for that long because their computers would have been purchased 9~14 years ago...

    11. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1
      Just correct myself. After looking at the page, it said "You do not need to have a proof-of-purchase or retain the item to participate in the settlements." It is interesting...

      What do I have to do to get my payment?

      File a claim online or by mail by July 1, 2017. The simple online claim form only takes 3-5 minutes for most individuals. Claims may be submitted by mail to In re ODD Products Indirect Purchaser Litigation, P.O. Box 43424, Providence, RI 02940-3424. We highly recommend that you submit the claim online to receive expedited service on July 1, 2017 or soon thereafter.

      After July 1, 2017, an email will be sent to your account on file with instructions on how to electronically receive your payment via PayPal, Google Wallet, Amazon Balance, and others.

      Plaintiffs have also collected direct contact information for class members and anticipate making reasonable attempts to distribute monies to class members where an address is available. This method is not guaranteed, however, and to ensure payment class members should submit a claims form.

    12. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Last year I got a check for the DRAM Price Fixing settlement. Many years ago, I got a check for the audio CD settlement.

      How did you find out about those?

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    13. Re: tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by DatbeDank · · Score: 1

      Go to schwab.com , register for a checking account, and wait for all of the stuff to arrive in the mail. 100% free checking, no fees, and you can deposit your 10$ check via your phone.

    14. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it just took me about a minute to potentially claim $30... Although if I have to cash a physical check the math changes dramatically.

      If you had spent another 1 minute on the site, you may have read this:

      After July 1, 2017, an email will be sent to your account on file with instructions on how to electronically receive your payment via PayPal, Google Wallet, Amazon Balance, and others.

    15. Re: tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by SumDog · · Score: 1

      It's 2017. Two thousand fucking seventeen and in America, we still use checks.

      In every other developed country in the world, you put down your bank and account number, possibly a TAN number if you're in an EU nation, and a persons name and you can send them money. For individuals it's always fee free, works with any bank and. appears within 24 hours (same day if same bank).

      No no, Paypal is not good enough. Neither is Square. Those are closed, private companies. Every other nation has direct, person-to-person transfer, mandated by their government.

      In the US, you must still print and photo a check.

    16. Re: tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The annoying thing is people like you focus on the brokenness of checks (which is mostly fixable BTW) and not the greater brokenness of ACH electronic transfers (which need to go away and die). In theory, the check blank is an authorizing mechanism and we can make images thereof ridiculously hard to forge, but ACH has no security.

    17. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A number of institutions and Check21 vendors got caught up in patent lawsuits related to document imaging retrieval and storage, and had to suspend new feature deployments. I think most cases were resolved last year.

    18. Re: tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      If you mean allowing businesses to /draw/ on your bank account w/ ACH, then yes, that's broken as hell and I won't go near it.

      If you mean having a business /deposit/ to your bank account, then I don't see what security you need on it?

    19. Re:tl;dr: some lawyer gets rich by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I don't remember distinctly but probably from Slashdot articles.

      LK

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  2. Shut up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Ill give you $10 to shut the fuck up.

  3. No proof? Why yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure that I bought thousands of computers with DVD drives.

  4. I don't remember how many drives I had back then by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    I don't remember how many drives I had back then. At least 5-6 from owned systems and ones built for others.

  5. Re:I don't remember how many drives I had back the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That appears to be part of the point of this class action -- Optical drives were absolutely ubiquitous, and the lawsuit is constructed to send a strong anti-trust message. By fixing prices, manufacturers created a huge artificial cost across the IT spectrum -- from individual home users to enterprise IT purchasing. And since the 2000s, IT spending is a non-trivial part of individual consumers' and business' budgets. The point is to make them feel the pain over price-fixing of a very common and often-replaced device.

  6. I Build My Own PC's. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    But you can give me $10 anyway.

    1. Re:I Build My Own PC's. by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a place to submit a claim for raw drives, as well as computers....

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    2. Re:I Build My Own PC's. by rholtzjr · · Score: 1

      Ditto, but it was an HP DVD +R/RW. But I guess Texas is not included on the list of eligible states. So they did not overcharge these residents?

    3. Re:I Build My Own PC's. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      I guess they gave us a break since they already rape us with property taxes.

    4. Re:I Build My Own PC's. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Previous stories about this price fixing issue of optical drives has also mentioned drives in optical disc players.
      So if you bought a DVD player for your TV, that should also be a claim.

  7. Re: I don't remember how many drives I had back th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Therefore the correct number to write down on the claim sheet is 83.

  8. "Up to $10" by jlv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the end, especially in light of the "no proof of purchase required", everyone will probably get $1.43 per drive, or less. Meanwhile, those driving the class action suit will pull in $25M, or more.

    1. Re:"Up to $10" by chispito · · Score: 1

      In the end, especially in light of the "no proof of purchase required", everyone will probably get $1.43 per drive, or less. Meanwhile, those driving the class action suit will pull in $25M, or more.

      The only winning move is not to play.

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    2. Re:"Up to $10" by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If the lawyer fees are capped at a certain percentage of the money actually distributed, then there will be an incentive for the lawyers to actually make some effort to find the beneficiaries and get them some cash. As it stands now, the lawyers get a percentage of "estimated" compensation, deduct all their expenses and make a few news paper ads and go home. The money not distributed goes back to the defendant. So they don't have any incentive to actually distribute cash.

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    3. Re:"Up to $10" by supremebob · · Score: 1

      Yeah, this is going to be like the Prosper.com lawsuit all over again. I lost about $400 because they grossly overestimated the credit rating of the dead beat lenders I was giving money to. My settlement check from the class action lawsuit came out to $4.61. The law firm probably made millions.

    4. Re:"Up to $10" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If even that. Been a part of probably three dozen class action lawsuits since I used to work as a property manager and bought a lot of appliances then later owned a small ISP so I bought a lot of computing equipment. I never made a single penny from one. They're scams. I was supposed to get a pretty large check from a lawsuit CenturyLink (phone monopoly in Seattle). We didn't get a damn thing and the law firm lied to the court and said we cashed the check we never received. The next biggest was a Merrill Lynch settlement for fake charges on our apartment mortgage. Again, we never got a penny. Merrill Lynch lied to the court and said they paid us.

      The courts don't actually follow-up on class action law suits so they mean nothing and almost no one gets paid.

    5. Re:"Up to $10" by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the end, especially in light of the "no proof of purchase required", everyone will probably get $1.43 per drive, or less. Meanwhile, those driving the class action suit will pull in $25M, or more.

      Then go file your own lawsuit for whatever money you'd get.

      Class actions happen because there's a hole in the current legal system - as in "steal from many and get away scot-free". If you steal $1,000,000 from 1 person you can probably get a lawsuit to reclaim it. But if you steal $1 from 1,000,000 people, you can get away scot-free.

      Think of all the times your cellphone carrier jacks up your rates - if you're on a contract, technically they're not supposed to, but they do. And what are you going to do about it? If they jack it up $5 4 months in a 2 year contract, that's $100 over the term. Are you going to sue them to reclaim that?

      Probably not - between court filing fees ($25-40 typically) and having to take a day off, you're probably just going to sit there and complain and pay up. Meanwhile, the carrier makes an extra few million dollars.

      And even if you do go through, they'll not show up (lawyers cost money), and take the default judgement. Then they'll pay you back your $100, because they factored that 99.99% of people wouldn't, but the few bored enough to do so, well, it's not a big deal.

    6. Re:"Up to $10" by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      As they should. They are the ones doing all the work.

    7. Re:"Up to $10" by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1

      In the end, especially in light of the "no proof of purchase required", everyone will probably get $1.43 per drive, or less. Meanwhile, those driving the class action suit will pull in $25M, or more.

      On the bright side, the next time companies think about doing something similar, they'll have 25 million reasons as to why it's not a such a good idea.

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    8. Re:"Up to $10" by King_TJ · · Score: 1

      Exactly!

      There's a class action underway right now over milk price fixing, and it started out talking about you earning as much as $43 or something like that.
      I went ahead and filled out my claim, since I lived in one of the states covered and bought milk during that time. But a week later, a friend of mine checked the site and the estimated payout was down to under $10 already, due to all the claims filed.

    9. Re:"Up to $10" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the fact here still remains that the number of people actually willing to go through the trouble of claiming their money is still going to be quite low, even after a class-action lawsuit (given the amount to claim is not in thousands). Many of the class-actions of the modern day seem more like a cash cow for lawyers than anything else.

  9. Does the lawyer's cut depend on this? by tomhath · · Score: 1

    You'll need to submit a claim before July 1st, and the money won't be released until other defendants in the litigation have settled.

    It sounds like your chances of actually getting any money are slim. Probably all this does is raise the damages so the lawyers get a bigger payday.

    1. Re:Does the lawyer's cut depend on this? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know about that. I had forgotten all about the DRAM lawsuit against RAMBUS et al until a couple months ago when a $85 check for my portion of the settlement arrived in the mail. These things DO pay out.

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    2. Re:Does the lawyer's cut depend on this? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      until a couple months ago

      Holy shit. What about that huge and non-trivial number of people who died of old age between the time of the incident and the time the money was finally released?

  10. Don't hold your breath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometme back AT&T ripped me off for over $600 in overcharges. Eventually there was a huge class action lawsuit. It dragged on forever, but eventually the ruling was in favor of the plaintiffs. After another year or so I received my check--for eight cents!. The only ones who collected were the lawyers for both sides. If anyone here expects to get more than a few pennies out of this, you are deluded.

    1. Re:Don't hold your breath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got over $200 from the DRAM settlement less than a year ago. I had a lot of over-priced DRAM c. 2000.

  11. You're probably NOT owed $10 by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 5, Informative

    Residency requirement. FTFA: Arizona, California, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, or Wisconsin.

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    1. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by sh00z · · Score: 1

      WTF, Texas!?! I was going to come here to ask if "HP" is inclusive of Compaq, but never mind.

    2. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe no one was certified for a class action from any excluded states. Also, important to realize that just because HP purchased a company formerly known as Compaq, does not in fact mean that company has liability just because the parent or subsidiary does.

    3. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And the link to the actual form which is always left out of TFS: https://www.opticaldiskdriveantitrust.com/

      If you purchased a new computer with an internal ODD, a stand-alone ODD designed for internal use in a computer, or an ODD designed to be attached externally to a computer while a resident of Arizona, California, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, or Wisconsin during the period of April 1, 2003 and December 31, 2008 for your own use and not for resale, you may be eligible for benefits from settlements reached in antitrust litigation currently pending in federal court. ODD refers to a DVD-RW, DVD-ROM, or COMBO drive manufactured by one or more Defendants or their alleged conspirators. For class members to ensure payment, you must file a claim online or by mail by July 1, 2017.

    4. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I was a Canadian living in Canada between April 1st 2003 and December 31st 2008 and not eligible.

      Fortunately I remain a Canadian in Canada in 2017 and may survive to 2020.

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    5. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, wtf, only 23 states + DC covered? Damnit.

    6. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Boooo! No free money for me!

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    7. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know I just ought to go read it, but I wonder if that means current resident or resident then. I was a resident of one of those states during the specified period and did purchase a machine from one of those companies no less with a DVD drive, but I live in a new state now that isn't covered.

    8. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by sootman · · Score: 1

      Actually, you PROBABLY are, if you're in the U.S. The 23 states and DC add up to about 162 million people (2010 census) which is a little over half of the 308 million people in the U.S.

      Yes, I should be working right now.

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    9. Re:You're probably NOT owed $10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if I owned a total of 16 drives and lived in 3 of those states to I claim $480?

  12. Re:I don't remember how many drives I had back the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The point is to make them feel the pain over making a profit.

    Fixed that for you.

  13. Re:I don't remember how many drives I had back the by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    Great! Now, we just need 374,999,999 more posts from the rest of the computer owners.

  14. Re:I don't remember how many drives I had back the by ET3D · · Score: 1

    I don't remember either. Probably in the millions.

  15. What about overpriced Apple products? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple is making an absurd amount of profit.

  16. US Customers only, just like VW by SciCom+Luke · · Score: 1

    Just like Volkswagen. US Customers get millions, and the European customers still pay a thousand per year in tax for having a Diesel car, without seeing any of it back. The sue-culture is apparently good for something...

    1. Re:US Customers only, just like VW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you bought a diesel DVD player between 1 April 2003 and 31 December 2008 then you are an idiot.

    2. Re:US Customers only, just like VW by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      If you bought a diesel DVD player

      Where can I purchase one of these diesel DVD players?

    3. Re:US Customers only, just like VW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You deserve it. For having a stupid diesel tax... Seriously why are you taxing diesels?

    4. Re:US Customers only, just like VW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will have to make them yourself: http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/V8-Engine-Case-Mod.jpg

  17. It's BASIC INCOME, people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TEN DOLLARS for EVERYONE

  18. My Newegg order history... by Bruinwar · · Score: 1

    My Newegg order history shows 8 total DVD drives. Plus one laptop with a DVD. Dang,within the years 2003-2008... reduces it to 2 drives, one laptop with a DVD. I'm sure there were more dammit... Then again it doesn't say I have to prove it. I bought some locally from the local computer store. If I got $30 from these guys I would be shocked.

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  19. Yeah, get paid to fight unscrupulous companies by raymorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While that's true, it's not necessarily *bad*. Without class actions, or if class actions weren't lucrative for the lawyers who organize them, the companies would just get away with it. The lawyers basically a reward for going after companies v who screw consumers over, with sufficient investigation to prove in court what the companies did and how consumers were harmed.

    It's not a perfect system, but I'd rather have (proper) class actions than not have them. When a company screws me out of $5 or $10 I'd rather a lawyer go after them (and get the $5) then just let the company get away with screwing epople2 over.

    1. Re:Yeah, get paid to fight unscrupulous companies by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      the companies would just get away with it

      Only in your crappy legal system that puts complete weight on lawsuits. Maybe it's time America got some consumer protection laws and an industry ombudsman with some teeth. Then companies can be held accountable to the letter of the law, rather than breaking the law, getting a slap on the wrist and some already rich bloodsucker pocketing the remaining change.

    2. Re:Yeah, get paid to fight unscrupulous companies by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      1. America is far from the only legal system where corporations trample over everything

      2. I'm hopeful things will improve once the greedy boomer generation starts dying off, but right now, voters can't even agree that we should have laws against companies dumping lead in the water we drink. "JOBS! JOBS! KILLING JOBS! THE LOONY EPA IS KILLING ALL THOSE JOBS!!!"

    3. Re:Yeah, get paid to fight unscrupulous companies by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I didn't say it was. But it is a prime example that lawsuits don't trump consumer protection. When it takes a class action and a horde of lawyers not to mention so many years that the product is no longer on sale to solve these problems then the system is fundamentally broken.

    4. Re:Yeah, get paid to fight unscrupulous companies by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      You did say "Only in your crappy legal system that puts complete weight on lawsuits." I'm not sure how else to take that, but I'm glad we're on the same page that this is not a problem unique to America. However, it does present a problem to your insistence that we don't need to solve these things in the courts: what alternatives are you proposing? Because I don't know of examples of countries that whip companies for bad behavior outside the courts, at least countries where capitalism is actually practiced.

  20. Re:Why the fuck would I give a shit about $10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess with you living in Mom's basement and having her feed you when you happen to get up to the ground level 10 bucks doesn't mean much to you.

  21. Texas among lowest taxed states by raymorris · · Score: 3, Informative

    Texas is one of the least-taxed states. We have no state income tax (on individuals) and reasonable sales taxes. Texas total state tax burden is 7.6%. Compare California, Wisconsin, and llinois at about 11%. Some states are 12%. Only Alaska is less than 7.1%.

    https://taxfoundation.org/stat...

    1. Re:Texas among lowest taxed states by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

      Depends where you live in TX. If you live in a high cost real estate area you get it up the ?. I pay 15 grand a year in prop taxes + 8.25% sales tax. It is more than 7.6% of my income. High cost real estate areas subsidize the education system of the entire state thru a law often referred to as robin hood. If I remember right about 40% of the prop tax I pay for schools in austin is redirected to the state low cost areas. One of the problems with relying on prop taxes is if your income goes down, your tax burden goes up. I plan on moving when I retire as I just can't see dropping that kind of coin for prop tax.

    2. Re:Texas among lowest taxed states by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      OP mentioned property taxes not sales. But congrats on the low sales taxes. That is definitely good. The only real downside is having to live in Texas.

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    3. Re:Texas among lowest taxed states by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd kill to pay $15k a year in property taxes. I pay $3600 a *month* in property taxes for a 1000 sq. ft. bungalow in Toronto, and Toronto has much lower property taxes compared to surrounding municipalities. Add on 13% sales tax and I think you're getting off pretty easy.

    4. Re:Texas among lowest taxed states by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://wx.toronto.ca/inter/fin/tax.nsf/Tax?OpenForm

      not too bad having a $6.3 million bungalow.

  22. collecting email addresses you say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VERIFIED email addresses, too.

    Follow the money on this one.

  23. Re:Why the fuck would I give a shit about $10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even the Constitution says you shouldn't give a shit about less than $20.

    The Seventh Amendment,

    In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

  24. Re:Why the fuck would I give a shit about $10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mom is lazy so she just tosses a care package downstairs every week.

  25. Funny thing. by drolli · · Score: 1

    I think i did not. Back then i only bought used thinkpads, so i did not by that drive from a manufacturer - and probably these were made before 2003 (I anyway used mainly external USB-dvd drive). Next step (around 2008) was to buy laptops without optical drives embedded (i had an external one+did not see the need for installing OSses-1G USB drives worked fine for debian/ubuntu).

  26. Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is awesome. I can document 6 laptops and 24 standalone drives since 2004. That's $290, less 289.99 in lawyers fees, of course...

  27. Wrong headline by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

    Since "you don't need to provide any proof of purchase" the headline should be:

    Here's how to get $10 free!

    1. Re:Wrong headline by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Yes, although, should there be any form of checking in the future, what would your charge be? Perjury? Potentially serious punishment for a measly $10.

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    2. Re:Wrong headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, although, should there be any form of checking in the future, what would your charge be? Perjury? Potentially serious punishment for a measly $10.

      This is not a statement made under oath, so it would be fraud, not perjury.

  28. The Virg. For people who find Wired too demanding by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    ... the settlement administrators are simply collecting names, email addresses, and the number of drives owned at the moment.

    At the moment I have about a dozen.

    Oh, that's not what you meant? Learn to fucking write then: " ... at the moment, the settlement administrators are simply collecting names, email addresses, and the number of drives owned [at the time]".

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  29. I just sunk Westinginghouse! by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    PSAW!
    Everybody knows diesel DVD players are less noisy on SONAR than nuclear DVD players.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  30. Re:Why the fuck would I give a shit about $10? by Ant2 · · Score: 1

    But yet writing about your feelings about it and submitting your comment to Slashdot for $0.00 IS worth it?

  31. Bad Link by StormReaver · · Score: 1

    Here is the only link that matters. Pointing to the Verge is pointless.

  32. Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My PC didn't have one -- though I paid a lot of money for. It did have a button operated cup holder though which I thought was pretty neat.

  33. re: Prosper by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    Same here!

    I lent nearly $1,000 to deadbeats on Prosper who never paid back a dime.
    I got payments from 2 separate class action suits against Prosper since then, but both were for under $10.

    The part that angers me the most is that Prosper was SUPPOSED to turn those debts over to your choice of 2 collection agencies they supposedly employed. I selected one but never heard a THING again. For all I know, they never even really sent anything to collections at all? How would you know as an individual lender?

  34. Would be interesting to compare costs of different by raymorris · · Score: 1

    It would be interesting to compare costs of different systems. In the US, state Attorney's General offices handle some of these things, the FTC handles some, etc. Each spends resources (money) to do so and each collects fines from time to time. Here, when the Attorney General and the regulatory agencies let things fall through the cracks, any concerned citizen can address via a class action, and the bigger the problem, the bigger is the incentive to organize a class action.

    I haven't seen any studies, I would like to, but my guess is that the three systems together may be more effective than any one alternative.

  35. I'm going to be rich by crow5599 · · Score: 1

    I vaguely remember buying somewhere between 2 and 500,000 PCs in that time period. To be safe, I'll claim the 500,000.

  36. Same here by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    I agree. Last one I did was the LCD monitor one. Got around 100 bucks for doing nothing more than filling out a web form...about a minute of time. If this one pans out, it's another easy 90 bucks or so for me. I'll spend a minute of time, to get easy money. May not be much, but it's more than I had.

  37. Re:I don't remember how many drives I had back the by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I don't either. I wrote down 2 machines and 3 external drives because I can actually prove that I own that many of them, not because I'm sure how many I bought. I know it was a lot more than that.

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    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  38. Do not bother by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    Of the FOUR class action suits I've "subscribed" to in the past, I've received exactly ZERO dollars.
    Because, frankly, once the lawyers have your name and can make their money, there is no real motivation for them to actually obtain anything for you.
    I refuse this sort of thing now on principal.

  39. ratspit by ananamouse · · Score: 1

    my state is not listed.