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Android Wear 2.0 Is An Evolutionary Update To Google's Smartwatch OS (techcrunch.com)

Google is officially launching Android Wear 2.0 today -- the biggest update to the company's wearable operating system since its launch in 2014. While Android Wear 2.0 will be launching with two new flagship watches from LG -- the LG Watch Sport and LG Watch Style, a number of existing Wear watches will also get this update in the coming weeks and months. TechCrunch reports: The first thing you'll notice when you get a 2.0 watch is the overall update to its design -- both in terms of the overall look but also the user experience. The look of Wear 2.0 now skews closer to Google's Material Design guidelines. While the overall look will still feel familiar to Wear 1.0 users, the update put a stronger emphasis on cards, for example. This means every notification now gets a full screen to show its preview and you can use the watch's dial to scroll through them (assuming your watch has a dial, of course -- otherwise you can obviously still use the touch screen to scroll). The other marquee feature of Wear 2.0 is support for standalone apps that don't need a companion app to run on your phone. That means developers can write apps that are purely geared toward the watch and they can then publish it on the Google Play store, which is now also available directly on the watch. That sounds more useful than it is -- unless you plan on getting an LTE-enabled watch and leave your phone at home. That's an option now that you could run Hangout or Google Music directly on the watch, but, except for runners, that's likely not a typical use case. At the end of the day, the most important use case for a smartwatch remains dealing with notifications. Everything else often feels like an unnecessary complication. [In summary, Frederic Lardinois writes via TechCrunch:] The Android smartwatch market could use a revolution to kickstart what now occasionally feels like a moribund ecosystem. Wear 2.0 doesn't feel revolutionary. It is, however, a perfectly adequate update that addresses many of the issues with Android Wear. It also puts it on parity with its competitors, like Apple's watchOS or Samsung's Tizen. It does also introduce some new use cases for LTE-enabled watches, but I can't help but feel that this will remain a niche category. Much, however, will depend on Google's hardware partners who will now have to bring Wear 2.0 to life.

40 comments

  1. But my Casio! by farble1670 · · Score: 2

    Queue the "But my Casio's battery lasts for years!" and the "Only 13 people in the history of the world have purchases a smart watch" comments ...

    1. Re:But my Casio! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you want them to stand in a line?

    2. Re: But my Casio! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have Timex, and was waiting for Pebble steel.
      If Android watch is as clogged by junkware as the OS - fuck it.

    3. Re:But my Casio! by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ditto. My Data Bank watches kick arse. I still wear one, 300. Also, small, light, etc.

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    4. Re:But my Casio! by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Queue = Cue
      purchases = purchased

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    5. Re:But my Casio! by neo-mkrey · · Score: 1

      I won a Samsung Gear S2 at my company's Holiday Party last year. It's a nice toy, but I still prefer my Casio G-shock.

    6. Re:But my Casio! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a watch collector, and I focus on cheap watches, because it's, well cheaper and just as satisfying to spend $14 on an Indian-made HMT Pilot as it is to spend $10,000 on a Patek Phillipe if you don't count prestige.

      The Casio F91-W will still be in production long after any curent smart watch is history. It's a masterpiece of design whereas every smartwatch I've seen thus far feels not quite there, and I've owned several so I know what to look for. Somehow with a smartwatch I've found my satisfaction with my purchase fading after a few days, but a $10 digital watch sitting there on your wrist doing one thing (well, four if you count alarm, stopwatch and hourly chime) flawlessly year after year... that can actually grow on you.

    7. Re:But my Casio! by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      No, "queue" as in queue them up. Thanks though.

    8. Re:But my Casio! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Wrong, and you know it.

      http://grammarist.com/usage/cu...

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    9. Re:But my Casio! by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      It's a masterpiece of design whereas every smartwatch I've seen thus far feels not quite there

      So true. And while we are on the topic, can you believe those people that buy COMPUTERS when they could instead go for a calculator??? I mean really, a calculator is smaller, lighter, the battery lasts for years, has a dedicated keypad with only the necessary keys, comes with it's own display, and it adds numbers FAST.

      You need to get past the word "watch" in "smart watch". It's a watch as much as your laptop is a calculator (hey, they both can add numbers). A smart watch is a wrist computer. They are user programmable, have WIFI, LTE modems, voice input, bluetooth, NFC, Color 480x480 OLED display, quad core 1.6GHz processors, 512MB RAM, 4GB flash. It's as different than your Casio as a calculator is from a computer.

      Maybe smart watches aren't for you, but comparing it to your Casio X-94-521-Xb mk 2 is apples to deviled eggs.

  2. well by bhcompy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At the end of the day, the most important use case for a smartwatch remains dealing with notifications.

    Well, in general, maybe, but I got mine for golf and many golfers I know use them. Distance and hole layout just with a look, tracking shots is very easy, etc. There are a number of very specific use cases that they're one of the best tools on the market for

  3. One thing by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    I just want to make and take calls over the watch without having to pull my phone out. Just let me answer and talk over it. The other stuff maybe someone else wants but I can't think why.

    1. Re:One thing by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      So you want the watch to be just a speaker phone? Oh god no! I can just imagine the results during my commute hours.

      Get yourself a Bluetooth headset. You can still use your watch to answer the phone, but then please use your headset. We don't want to listen to both sides of your conversation at full volume.

    2. Re:One thing by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      No to the headset. I can't wear a headset all the time like I can a watch. I don't generally carry conversations more than 30 or 40 seconds so I just want the convenience of not having to hold a phone in my hands. I hear people yapping on the phone for hours on end everywhere I go so it's not like it's going to stand out.

    3. Re:One thing by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      I just want to make and take calls over the watch without having to pull my phone out.

      Add a Bluetooth headset to you gear collection, and that's quite doable today. Not something I ever cared for, but I guess we all have our use-cases.

      For me, the "killer app" is being able to see if a call while I'm driving or in a meeting is something I have to pull over/leave the room and take, or something I can ignore. In a car pulling out a phone to check who's calling is potentially dangerous, and in a meeting its incredibly impolite.

    4. Re:One thing by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      No to the headset. I can't wear a headset all the time like I can a watch.

      I bought a headset torque a couple of years ago when I had to work by phone with a vendor much of the day, and my ear and arm were starting to ache. Much to my surprise, I fell in love with the thing. Haven't been without one since.

      The first obvious advantage is for taking calls. Ironically, modern cellphones are just not well-designed to actually use for phone calls. You're basically holding a big rectangular bottom-heavy slab of glass up to your ear. With the headset:

      • You can talk much more comfortably. Like human bodies were designed to talk.
      • You can operate the phone pad and still listen. This is required for a lot of menu-based automated phone systems.
      • You can look up information on your mobile device that might be relevant to the conversation while still listening. (Typical use case: "The place we planned to meet at is closed. Sorry. Let me see what else is around here...")
      • You can listen and still do things that require full coordination, like operating a computer, walking down stairs, etc.
      • It acts as a distance sentinel for your phone. If I forget to pick it up my phone and walk off, after about 30 yards or so (or when I get a wall between me and it), the torque vibrates and audibly complains. For me this alone makes it worthwhile.
      • It acts as a phone finder for its paired phone as well. I lost my phone at home last week, and was able to locate its room using BT connections/disconnections on the torque. I'd (without even realizing it) shut it in my bill drawer. It could have been as much as a week before I found it in there!
      • As someone who listens to podcasts and music, I always have headphones with me.
      • When connected, my phone never audibly rings (except through the earbuds). This is a huge piece-of-mind enhancer when you go to public places, like meetings, movies, and church sanctuaries. Its gotten to where I really resent people with audible ringtones, since I now know its trivial to prevent.
      • The torque itself is essentially a piece of jewelry. Lots of folks wear necklaces; I wear this.
    5. Re:One thing by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      I just want to make and take calls over the watch without having to pull my phone out.

      Wear 2.0 supports that, and the new LG Watch Sport has it (for only $350!!!). With Wear 2.0, the watch can operate completely independent from the phone.

  4. Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by Camembert · · Score: 2

    I am curious about the main pros and cons of a Wear 2 watch vs the current Apple Watch, next to the fact that they are tied to their own ecosystem of course. I have the first generation Apple Watch since a good year, and my wife has the new one. We like them. I am actually a big fan of traditional mechanical watches and yet I find that I wear the AW at least two days per week (I have 10 other mechanical watches in my rotation, hence relatively it is worn a lot). What I like most: the discreet tapping notifications and reminders, the dial with integrated activity plots, the ease of Apple pay, occasionally it is quicker to answer a call on the watch than on the phone. Also the dial designs while less plentiful than on android watches are restrained and in good taste (nothing is as offputting as a screen dial that is bright like a torch). I like to use Siri to control a few homekit devices (Siri switch on standing lamp) through it. The daily charging is less an issue than I expected. The build quality and feel is quite premium, my stainless one feels more posh than most watches in the mall at similar price levels.
    At first glance, Android Wear 2 seems comparable in functionality with the difference of having round dials in the case of LG. I must say that round dials look better to me for time display. Not so sure yet for general information display, rectangular seems better for that.
    Any comments on the relative merits of Android Wear 2? What does it do that the Apple Watch doesn't and vice versa?
    Regardless, I think that the true breakthrough of this category of devices will come when eventually more health related sensors will be added. It is well known that Apple hired people with PHDs on non-invasive sensors for blood glucose, blood oxygen etc; I can imagine Google having done the same.

    1. Re: Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You stupid shill, kill yourself, nobody cares about faggety craple watch.

    2. Re:Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by jgfenix · · Score: 1

      If the app is well designed a round display is not bad. For reading concise information like a health/sport sensor/tracker, a message, an email is good. If you wanted to read a novel or do graphical design it would be horrible.

    3. Re:Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by Jaegs · · Score: 1

      "next to the fact that they are tied to their own ecosystem of course"

      That's not entirely true. Initially it was the case, but I can own an Android Wear watch and use an iOS device to drive it:

      https://itunes.apple.com/us/ap...

      I do not believe the opposite is true.

      I actually have both--a first-gen Apple Watch and an LG Watch Urbane--and prefer the Apple Watch, but I am firmly in the Apple ecosystem, so it works better with that. I do like the "look" of the Urbane, though, as it feels more like a traditional watch. A bit more objectively, I have found that battery life is better with the Apple Watch, it is more stable, and does a better job of measuring the biometric data. I've had the Urbane crash a few times, and it is basically useless until you re-pair it. Not the case with the Apple Watch.

      I've had the Urbane in storage for a year, now, but I am going to try Wear 2 to see if it has improved.

    4. Re:Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      I am curious about the main pros and cons of a Wear 2 watch vs the current Apple Watch

      I have a gen 1.5-ish Wear watch and my spouse has an Apple Watch 2. You get more variety and options with Wear, but in general you get a less polished product than Apple. That pretty much sums it up. Wear is a little ahead in what features it supports but they are IMHO pushing the limits of the hardware too far. For example, Wear 2.0 supports LTE modems, but the battery life is only ~12 hours on the newest watch that supports it.

      A watch needs to last a solid, long day. It's hard for me to fathom that they released a product, ~2 years from when I bought my Wear watch that has 1/2 the battery life.

    5. Re: Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by Camembert · · Score: 1

      The deplorable level of the unambitious lazy failing class... instead of looking at their own weaknesses and failings all they do is spewing bitterness...

    6. Re:Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by Camembert · · Score: 1

      That is a good point. LTE support would be good for independence - but only if the battery can last long enough. I can imagine Apple adding that eventually, if and when they can do so in a still svelte case with enough battery life.

    7. Re:Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by Camembert · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the correction about IOS and Android Wear - I didn't know.

    8. Re:Interested in comparison with the Apple Watch by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      I read that Apple was actually prototyping LTE support, but dropped it for Watch 2 because they couldn't provide a decent experience w/ the available hardware.

  5. Ars Coverage included Google Fit by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

    The Ars coverage of this was much more thorough. Android Wear 2.0 is nice, but Google Fit saw the most improvements. Of the two watches launching with Android Wear 2.0, the more expensive LG Sport is all about the additional sensors and activity tracking... not Notification Cards.

  6. Not sure if it's at parity really by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    AppleWatch OS 3.0 added a number of features to help ensure key applications could receive background data updates that made third party apps that involved data display (as opposed to our action apps like Uber) perform much better and therefore made them more useful. Did Android Wear 2.0 do anything to help in that regard?

    A lot of what makes the AppleWatch really useful is, as with iOS, the applications I can install and use later...

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    1. Re:Not sure if it's at parity really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android Wear 2.0 now supports similar "complications" for adding third-party app customisations to watch faces etc, if that's what you're referring to.

  7. Till they get it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd like something comparable to pebble... Always on screen, week long battery life, button (tactile) navigation.

    Tiny touchscreens are pretty useless - and impossible in winter with gloves (even if they are touch-enabled)

    1. Re:Till they get it right... by lord_mike · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, there is nothing in the market that can compare to Pebble, now or in the future. As long as these watch designers insist that smartwatches must look and act like little phones instead of watches, we'll never get good battery life or always on screens on them.

  8. A standalone watch *is* the killer app by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    I was kind of jazzed about the LG Urbane and its stand-alone LTE capabilities, but it never really materialized. I would much rather ditch my monolith phone in favor of a watch. Add connectivity to automotive head units (Android Auto) and better and better speech recognition and the number of applications requiring a slab phone is reduced. If I could get two days of life from a watch while having it paired (even just BT) with my tablet, it would be suffice ~98% of the time for all my needs. Let me usb tether (power & data to my tablet) for high intensity work and I might never need a handheld phone again.

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  9. On-watch Play Store by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The review seems to have missed one thing about the on-watch Play Store which could be significant: it makes it easy for iOS users to get apps. The whole "if you want a smartwatch and use Apple, get an Apple Watch or dick around" speedbump is removed, and that's a segment who are cheerfully spendy on tech toys.

  10. Can you hear me now? by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    I hear people yapping on the phone for hours on end everywhere I go so it's not like it's going to stand out.

    "I see people spitting on the sidewalk everywhere I go so it's not like it's going to stand out."

    Yeah, it still stands out. One of you isn't less annoying and wrongheaded just because you're all annoying and wrongheaded.

    Wear a headset, please. And speak quietly. Very quietly.

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  11. Ticking the store box by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    The review seems to have missed one thing about the on-watch Play Store which could be significant: it makes it easy for iOS users to get apps.

    Doesn't the play store make it easier for non-iOS users to get apps? I mean, not that it was in any way difficult or troublesome before, that's not anything I've experienced. I have had absolutely no trouble finding or getting faces or apps, and in fact, appreciate the larger display area of my phone for reading about them.

    I suppose some people may have found the process formidable, but honestly, I can't imagine why.

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  12. Hardware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's true that 2.0 is kind of catching up to Tizen a bit in the UI department. Still the software is not really the problem.

    In reading first reviews, it seems neither of these new LGs has the processing power to run something like the voice assistant either tethered to the phone or stand alone. If you had the cpu grunt you could certainly run Hangouts and Maps stand alone, other key apps that also appear to be sluggish. And then the LTE version is too dang big and thick. With a much more efficient faster CPU and better battery life enabling a more svelte device . . . I bet these this OS would be impressive, though that goes for Tizen and iOS as well.

    So at this point you might as well mostly just run these things tethered to a phone for the most part. I recently got a Gear S2 - definitely a tether baby, but a big step up from my fitbit. Just having good notifications and fitness stuff and alarms on your wrist turns out to be pretty nice. I hadn't anticipated how just being able to leave your phone in your pocket or in your bag or on a desk most of the time - well, that is a lot better than pulling it out 20-30 times a day just to see what telemarketer is calling me or some trivial text message or email. I mean some days I do not need to look at my phone. at. all.

    Another generation or two then. My experience with this semi-smartwatch has me fairly convinced by next phone upgrade could well be a watch, and that would be pretty great.

  13. Who gives a shit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is another worthless piece of spyware shit from a marketing company.