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NASA's Scott Kelly Shares What He Discovered After a Year In Space (time.com)

Kelly, who returned to Earth after 340 days in space last year, is working on a memoir about his experience in the space since, and how he has been seeing the planet since. Two excerpts from his article on Time: The mission that I prepared for was, for the most part, the mission I flew. The data is still being analyzed, but the scientists are excited about what they are seeing so far. The genetic differences that appeared between my twin brother Mark and me could unlock new knowledge, not only about what spaceflight does to our bodies but also about how we age here on Earth. Emerging results reveal the condition of my telomeres -- the ends of our chromosomes that indicate our genetic age -- actually improved while I was in space compared to Mark's, contrary to expectations. The studies I worked on show promise in helping scientists reach solutions to health problems that emerge in long-duration spaceflight -- problems such as bone loss, muscle deterioration, damage to vision and the effects of extended radiation exposure. [...] Personally, I've learned that nothing feels as amazing as water. The night my plane landed in Houston and I finally got to go home, I did exactly what I'd been saying all along I would do: I walked in the front door, walked out the back door and jumped into the swimming pool, still in my flight suit. I'll never take water for granted again. Russian cosmonaut Misha Kornienko says he feels the same way. I've learned that showing up early, whether it's to a job interview or a spacewalk, is the only way to stay ahead of the game and be successful. "If you're not five minutes early, you're already late."

58 comments

  1. Centrifuge by sycodon · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that any long term solution for space travel or space occupation should just involve a centrifuge as living quarters.

    Heavy? Yes.
    Expensive? Yes.

    But if man can't live in space without getting totally fucked up, then I guess that's a small price to pay.

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    1. Re:Centrifuge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'll be really interesting to find out how much gravity humans need to be healthy. I imagine the lower the gravity required, the cheaper and easier the solution. Hopefully we'll find out when we put people on the moon long-term.
       

  2. "After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 1

    Sigh. 11 months (340 days is a hell of a lot closer to that than it is to 12 months) is in no way shape or form "one year".

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    1. Re:"After a Year In Space" by scunc · · Score: 1

      You're right. On Mercury it's almost 4 years!
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    2. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, on the space station it is one year. It has to do with relativity.

    3. Re:"After a Year In Space" by ASDFnz · · Score: 1

      Yes, on the space station it is one year. It has to do with relativity.

      Oh my goodness... Relativity would add ~ 0.001 second for that duration on the IIS.

      That is a problem for GPS satellites but it is not an entire month of the year.

    4. Re:"After a Year In Space" by iggymanz · · Score: 3

      *sigh* autistic pedantic slashdotter can't understand speaking in round numbers

    5. Re:"After a Year In Space" by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      Sigh. 11 months (340 days is a hell of a lot closer to that than it is to 12 months) is in no way shape or form "one year".

      It's 0.9315 years. How many significant digits do you want on that?

      (Actually given that his year in space included February 29, it might be more accurate to say it was 0.92896 years.

    6. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 1

      At what deviation from exactitude does "round" become "wrong"?

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    7. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 0

      This has nothing to do with significant digits.

      Anyway... 11 months is 0.91667 years, and that's a hell of a lot closer to 0.9315 years than it is to 1.0 years.

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    8. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New moms measure life events in months up to the first several years in months. For the rest of the world we use years to measure events like this. Work a job for 10 months or 14 months, people call it a year.

      Step outside of the pedantic bubble and experience causal conversation.

    9. Re:"After a Year In Space" by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      340 days is a lot closer to one year than 0 years.

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    10. Re:"After a Year In Space" by marklark · · Score: 1

      Ummm... Doesn't added speed slow time down? (It's always been my primary reason for speeding ;^)

    11. Re:"After a Year In Space" by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Well then we should have had the mission at 190 days since it rounds up to 1 year and saved a bunch of money on the experiment. Close enough right?

    12. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're actually doubling down on this weak argument you've made? Have a drink.

    13. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Trogre · · Score: 1

      After a [minute, hour, day, week, month, year, decade] in space.

      Which is closest to 340 days?

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    14. Re:"After a Year In Space" by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      Step outside of the pedantic bubble and experience causal conversation.

      In his defense, that's hard for nearly all of us here, myself included!

    15. Re:"After a Year In Space" by narf0708 · · Score: 1

      Whoooooosh

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    16. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends on the situation, but if you spend 340 days doing something, in most situations you would reasonably call it a year.
      Has your condition been diagnosed?

    17. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Sigh. 11 months (340 days is a hell of a lot closer to that than it is to 12 months) is in no way shape or form "one year".

      Thanks - we didn't know that.

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    18. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Sigh. 11 months (340 days is a hell of a lot closer to that than it is to 12 months) is in no way shape or form "one year".

      It's 0.9315 years. How many significant digits do you want on that?

      (Actually given that his year in space included February 29, it might be more accurate to say it was 0.92896 years.

      Are yu counting the leap second we added last year? Its apparently really important to some people.

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    19. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      This has nothing to do with significant digits.

      Anyway... 11 months is 0.91667 years, and that's a hell of a lot closer to 0.9315 years than it is to 1.0 years.

      Insignificant digits......

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    20. Re:"After a Year In Space" by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      So you are happy with Subway selling you a 11 inch foot long sub?

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    21. Re:"After a Year In Space" by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      That's an A- at my highschool.

    22. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was just early.

    23. Re:"After a Year In Space" by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      you tell me, but 0.93 years is about a year

    24. Re:"After a Year In Space" by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      but Kelly was 0.07 years short of one year

    25. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 1

      But it's much closer to 11 months.

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    26. Re:"After a Year In Space" by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      How many years did he spend in space? Go on. Round it.

    27. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 0

      You answer my question, then I'll answer yours.

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    28. Re:"After a Year In Space" by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      doesn't matter, 11 months is about a year too

    29. Re:"After a Year In Space" by aXis100 · · Score: 1

      Your argument will become valid when someone sells you a year long trip to space.

      In the mean time it's a frikin article on a frikin free website, so an approximation for convenience is perfectly reasonable.

    30. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has nothing to do with significant digits.

      Anyway... 11 months is 0.91667 years, and that's a hell of a lot closer to 0.9315 years than it is to 1.0 years.

      Imagine if there was a .08333 error somewhere in the re-entry calculations that we were talking about. Or if their salary was underpaid that much.

    31. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At what deviation from exactitude does "round" become "wrong"?

      When the message conveyed detracts too much from reality, which it doesn't in this case.

      Of course, that's subjective, so now you'll argue about that instead.

      You should simply just calm down.

      There are more important things to argue about than referring to 340 days in space as a year.

    32. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 1

      (The article didn't say, "about a year". It said "a year".)

      At what point does "X months" shift from "about a year" to "not about a year?

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    33. Re:"After a Year In Space" by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Imagine if there was a .08333 error somewhere in the re-entry calculations that we were talking about. Or if their salary was underpaid that much.

      Imagine you got 91 on an exam...it's still an A in the vast majority of schools. You need to learn the difference between what matters in casual discussion and astrophysics...it doesn't require five-nines or a six sigma effort.

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    34. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's say you were kidnapped and kept in a basement and fucked in the ass every night by an obese grizzly bear for 340 days, what should the news headline read?

    35. Re:"After a Year In Space" by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      (The article didn't say, "about a year". It said "a year".)

      At what point does "X months" shift from "about a year" to "not about a year?

      If you start with a pile of sand and take away one grain at a time, at what point does it shift from being a pile of sand to being a few loose grains of sand?

      Also, grasshopper, what is the sound of one hand clapping?

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    36. Re:"After a Year In Space" by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      This has nothing to do with significant digits.

      Anyway... 11 months is 0.91667 years, and that's a hell of a lot closer to 0.9315 years than it is to 1.0 years.

      Tut tut, you've got four different significant digits in each of your four numbers. How can you live with yourself?

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    37. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Answering a question with a question can be insightful, but in your case it's not.

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    38. Re:"After a Year In Space" by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Quite easily.

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    39. Re:"After a Year In Space" by hawkfish · · Score: 1

      you tell me, but 0.93 years is about a year

      It's an imperial year.

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  3. mental status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cosmonaut's comment about punctuality seems strangely off-topic. Might be good to get a earthbound psych eval after all that time up there.

    1. Re:mental status by Aeros · · Score: 1

      Based on that comment? But yea, if your in space for a year and running late up there then you seriously have some time-management issues.

  4. Early, late, whatever by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

    "If you're not five minutes early, you're already late."

    Or, show up five minutes early for a meeting, and get kvetched at for spending time in the conference room that you could have been working. You can't win.

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    1. Re:Early, late, whatever by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 2

      Or, show up five minutes early for a meeting, and get kvetched at for spending time in the conference room that you could have been working. You can't win.

      Quit that job. Fin.

    2. Re:Early, late, whatever by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      Or, show up five minutes early for a meeting, and get kvetched at for spending time in the conference room that you could have been working. You can't win.

      Quit that job. Fin.

      I'm pretty sure that my meetings bear little semblance to astronaut meetings. For some careers it makes sense that showing up early will help with success. For example, students, sales people, astronauts, etc. Anything where it helps you get into the right frame of mind, gets noticed by your manager, or aids you in getting that sale.

      However, my meetings tend to be about IT projects, are scheduled on top of each other, have varying priorities, etc. Very few, if any, would lead to an increase in success by attending early. Much of the success in IT is driven by results and who you know, not by attending meetings early...

    3. Re:Early, late, whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ummm... no? Showing up to meetings early for no specific reason is silly. There are a few ways to look at it but at the end of the day I do agree you should arrive precisely when you *mean* to. Sometimes that is 15 minutes early, sometimes it is on time, sometimes it is late. As long as you have a specific reason to be at the meeting early rather than doing *anything* else that could be more productive. Sitting in an empty room for 5 minutes for no reason doesn't help anyone.

      If you have a reason to show up early: such as preparing your presentation, you know other will be early, etc. that is fine but to make blanket rules that you just do everything 5 minutes early is stupid, especially if you are advocating everyone do it. Everyone might as well just set their clock five minutes back and pretend they are following this advice but do everything the same... get it?

    4. Re:Early, late, whatever by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      This.

      If you're making others wait, or repeat themselves, by showing up 15 mins late to meetings, then you're just being rude. It's not the same as being sociably late to a party.

      I run a lot of meetings, and am known for starting them on time. People used to show up late, but quickly learned that I wasn't about to repeat covered topics for their convenience. If key folks don't show up on time, I reschedule.

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    5. Re:Early, late, whatever by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      Yeah, IT meetings are about sharing information, maybe receiving direction from higher up the chain.

      It's kind of a shame they're treated like any other meeting, because if you could appear when the agenda has an item that might involve you and then step out afterwards (assuming those items cluster well...), a lot fewer people would be sitting there bored out of their minds instead of possibly being productive back at their desks.

      The manager is the only one who needs to be there end-to-end, because they're the ones who need to know where everyone is and roughly what they're doing. I only need to know or share when my actions and a colleague's are likely to overlap.

  5. Re:Human health by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Eventually, they'll be able to use genetic therapy and or medication to fix the problem.

  6. Questions by yo303 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let's ask him to do a Slashdot Ask Me A Question!

  7. less gravity = less thoughts = less aging by elcor · · Score: 1

    That's what they're finding.

  8. There's not much water on mars by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    and probably won't be making swimming pools of it for a long time.

  9. Genetic Age. by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

    telomeres -- the ends of our chromosomes that indicate our genetic age

    Huh. I knew all that. But then it hit me. After a certain point we should really start talking about people's genetic age as a decreasing value of their telomeres' lengths. Probably an average? Or the minimum? Not all your cells divide at the same rate for sure.

    People will go into the negative numbers. When they run out of telomeres and start losing genetic code each division.

    It'll show 40 year old people that have a genetic age of T -10 years and 60 year old people that have a genetic age of T -20 years. Plan your savings and health needs accordingly.

    1. Re:Genetic Age. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When they run out of telomeres and start losing genetic code each division

      It doesn't work that way. Telomeres are the anchor point for the DNA replication machinery. The actual point this enzyme is sitting on can't be replicated, which is why the copy of your DNA string has a slightly shorter telomere. When your telomere is completely gone, the DNA replication machinery cannot attach itself anymore and copying will not be able to proceed. The shortening that happens at each copy won't eat away actual genes beyond the telomere ending.

  10. BTDT by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, it took him a year in space to learn about water, and family, and much else... that I learned in ninety days on my first SSBN patrol.

    1. Re:BTDT by deadweight · · Score: 1

      Well if your sub stayed out a year, you would presumably learn the same lessons and probably at 80 days too. BTW, do modern subs smell bad? One night on a diesel boat and my wife made me dump my clothes outside.