Apple Is Expanding Its War With Qualcomm (fortune.com)

Apple has opened a new front in its global patent war with Qualcomm. From a report: The Cupertino, Calif.-based company has sued Qualcomm in a U.K. court, accusing the chipmaker of violating patents and design concepts Apple owns. Details on exactly which patents Qualcomm has violated and why Apple believes Qualcomm has violated the patents were not disclosed in the public court records, according to Bloomberg, which earlier reported on the lawsuit. The lawsuit is the latest in a string of disputes Apple and Qualcomm have engaged in around the world. The main dispute resides in the U.S., where Apple has accused Qualcomm of using its position as a prominent chipmaker to hurt competition in the mobile marketplace. Apple, which has used Qualcomm chips for its iPhone's wireless connectivity, claims Qualcomm owes the company $1 billion in rebates the chip maker allegedly held back after Apple spoke to South Korean regulators about Qualcomm's business practices.

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Apple's philosophy

[postmortem]

You really haven't won... ...until all others have lost.

Re:Apple's philosophy

[Anonymous Coward]

So apple is a narcissist?

Shakespeare for the rescue!

[KiloByte]

There's a simple solution for this plague on the mankind, proposed in Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2.

Re:Shakespeare for the rescue!

[dgatwood]

... stealing a cade of herrings?

Re:Shakespeare for the rescue!

[Anonymous Coward]

The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

Re:Shakespeare for the rescue!

[geek]

... stealing a cade of herrings?

Shh, lest the Herrings hear you

Re:Shakespeare for the rescue!

[Gravis Zero]

Shakespeare? How about something with a bit more class.

Re:Shakespeare for the rescue!

[dgatwood]

Nah. They're deaf. This also means that they have to learn through their eyes. Fortunately, they're well-red.

Women keep "expanding" too

[Anonymous Coward]

And no one writes articles about that

Re: Women keep "expanding" too

[Anonymous Coward]

You haven't seen the magazine rack near a grocery checkout in the last 50 years?

Lawsuits

[Anonymous Coward]

You know a company has run out of new ideas when it goes into full lawsuit mode. My bet is that because Qualcomm is defining 5G while Apple has barely any contributions in that space they are trying to make up for it by filing these lawsuits. Also, the USPTO is to be blamed for this mess. They basically rubber stamp patent applications yet somehow take arbitrarily long times to get back to you. I mean I have stuff filed in 2015 that I have no idea wtf the USPTO is sitting on it for this long. For all I know they've lost the paperwork. I know for a fact a lot of these companies use the fact that the USPTO takes years to get back to you to own a technology virtually forever. I mean, there are HDTV patent application filed in the 1990s that are still not issued or rejected. When those patents issue, by law, they are given a 20 year monopoly from the issue date (not the filing date) because the USPTO took more than 3 years issue the patent. Think about that, if the patent is owned by a company that already has HDTV patents they just get to keep monopolizing the technology for that long.

Anyway, my point is that these lawsuits are mainly possible thanks to the USPTO's refusal to work properly. Someone needs to file a FOIA request to the USPTO to ask them difficult questions like "how old is the oldest application that is not issued?". I can't be the one to do it cause I have stuff filed I don't want them taking revenge me.

Re:Lawsuits

[Anonymous Coward]

didn't Quallcomm sue Apple in the USA first?
IF that is true, then who has run out of ideas?

Re:Lawsuits

[Anonymous Coward]

Qualcomm got butthurt when Apple testified against them in court in Korea. Qualcomm felt that Apple should have lied for them. So Qualcomm decided not to pay Apple the billion dollars they owed them.

Apple sued to get the billion dollars they were rightfully owed, which was the moral just and sane thing to do.

Qualcomm got butthurt again cause they looked like the immoral, spiteful company they are.

Qualcomm now is just trying to lash out everywhere, hoping that some 3rd world court will give them some KY to help with their butthurt.

FRAND

[organgtool]

We all know that Qualcomm must license their wireless technology patents under FRAND terms (for comically cheap prices) in order for their technologies to be included in the standard, but are Qualcomm forced or sell Apple chips or could they tell Apple to make their own damned chips?

please see..

[Anonymous Coward]

pls see..
https://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/03/03/1526240/apple-losing-out-to-microsoft-and-google-in-us-classrooms

for an explanation..

Did they dare

[m2shariy]

To make a rectangular chip?

I hope they lose

[AndyKron]

Even if Apple if right I hope they lose. As always: Fuck Apple

We want our chips for free

[Anonymous Coward]

Details on exactly which patents Qualcomm has violated and why Apple believes Qualcomm has violated the patents were not disclosed in the public court records, according to Bloomberg, which earlier reported on the lawsuit.

Isn't refusing to disclose information vital to the case something that SCO is known for in their Linux lawsuit against IBM? I don't think Apple has a leg to stand on, from what I have read Apple's big complaint is that they are paying the exact same royalty as everyone else and they want money for nothing and their chips for free.

Now look at them yo-yo's that's the way you do it
You play the odds and run a lawsuit scam
That ain't workin' that's the way you flimflam
We want money for nothin' and our chips for free

Apple Is Expanding Its War On Common Sense

[Anonymous Coward]

n/t

Rebate fine print

[Anonymous Coward]

The rebate was actually a "No Snitching Rebate" and denied the rebate request from Apple for the following reasons:

1. Stamp on envelope was post marked a day late
2. Missing upc bar codes
3. Didn't sign and date rebate form
4. snitched