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Canadian DMCA In Action: Court Awards Massive Damages In Modchip Case (michaelgeist.ca)

New submitter google20000 shares a report from Michael Geist: The Federal Court of Canada has issued a massive damage award in the first major Canadian digital lock copyright ruling involving circumvention of technological protection measures. The ruling, which is the first to conduct an extensive examination of the anti-circumvention rules established in 2012, adopts expansive interpretations to the digital lock protections and narrow views of the exceptions. The case launched by Nintendo confirms that Canada has tough anti-piracy laws with one of the most aggressive digital lock laws in the world and will fuel calls to re-examine the effectiveness of the anti-circumvention exceptions in the 2017 copyright review. The case stems from a lawsuit launched by video game maker Nintendo against Go Cyber Shopping, a modchip seller that operated a retail store in Waterloo, Ontario and several online stores. Go Cyber Shopping offered a wide range of products that allow users to circumvent the digital lock controls on the Nintendo gaming console (such as the Wii) and play unauthorized games including "homebrew" games. Go Cyber Shopping argued that it provided other services but the court says that it did not tender any evidence in that regard. The court concluded that the modchip seller engaged in copyright infringement and circumvented technological protection measures. In fact, it went out of its way to emphasize the importance of TPM protection. It adopted a broad interpretation of a technological protection measure -- rejecting a UK case that used a narrower interpretation -- in favor of an approach that covers access controls that go beyond restrictions on copying.

65 comments

  1. Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Run for Parliment, get law overturned. [One of the reasons] I moved to Canada to escape the DMCA laws in the US. We need legislators who take a hard line "No DMCA" eveywhere we can fight them, the TPM measures here could be used to lock us out from booting Linux on our new PCs in the future. We need a Pirate Party that isn't actually called the Pirate Party to fight hard and declare war on the copyright cartels, and Trusted computing.

    1. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am glad my president nuked TPP from orbit.

    2. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "[One of the reasons] I moved to Canada to escape the DMCA laws in the US"

      what kind of fucking weirdo are you?

    3. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Run for Parliment, get law overturned.

      1) Quit your job to go do a profession you may hate
      2) Take years to get the reputation and proficiency you need to get elected for Partliament.
      3) Maybe get law overturned???
      4) Profit!

      Sounds like a plan, I'm in.

    4. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      I moved to Canada to escape the DMCA laws in the US.

      I have some bad news for you.

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      Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    5. Re: Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you should have fixed your own country instead of going to another country and telling them how to fix it.

    6. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moved from where? Not the US if you claim he left democracy.

    7. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Run for Parliment, get law overturned. [One of the reasons] I moved to Canada to escape the DMCA laws in the US. We need legislators who take a hard line "No DMCA" eveywhere we can fight them, the TPM measures here could be used to lock us out from booting Linux on our new PCs in the future. We need a Pirate Party that isn't actually called the Pirate Party to fight hard and declare war on the copyright cartels, and Trusted computing.

      No we need a digital rights wall at the 49th parallel and we need to get Trump and his minions to pay for it! This is complete and absolute bullshit of the first order and another step towards digital dictatorship. I am ashamed that we allowed the Conservative party of Canada to bend Canadian assholes over in the name of the so called digital rights, for an essentially small group of American mega corps. Hopefully some with brains will take notice of what this really means, it is a slow but obvious move to taking back the ownership of devices and the ability to modify or repair them. Complete and absolute corporate bullshit with Apple, Disney, Nintendo, Microshaft, Sony and a few others writing the laws with their bullshit digital rights lobby stuffing gobs of cash up the assholes in both the government of the US and Canada. GRRRR!!!

    8. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Parliament". Learn to spell, dweeb.

    9. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am glad my president nuked TPP from orbit.

      For the wrong reasons, but I'll take it.

    10. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... or simply don't buy any Nintendo products if you are not happy with the fact that they want to control what you can run on their consoles. You can vote with your dollars.

    11. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      First we can name and shame all those who voted that law, and to a lesser extent those who voted for these MPs. And I am talking about every conservative or liberal MP.

    12. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      Canada is not perfect but it's more democratic than the US by just about any measure, and this is despite the fact that their head of sate is an unelected foreigner.

    13. Re: Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by rcastles · · Score: 1

      That's it! I'm moving to Canada! Wait! What?! Idiots.

    14. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      The Copyright Industry ("*AA. * Software Association) has a very effective weapon, called the USTR. They also set up local affiliates. Politicians are constantly being, on the one side, being treated to "campaign donations", free "VIP packages" (free tickets, meet & greets, etc.), this is more or less Pay-to-Play. On the other hand they are also being told how bad it all is for the poor starving artists, and how gazillion-billions of (taxable!) revenue are being "lost". Law Professor Michael Geist had a series of articles what was bad with the "copyright reform" bill, including many items on the digital locks. Of course Money Talks, so the DRM stuff is there exactly as the copyright industry wrote it. And now we suffer. Thanks Steven Harper (less that 4 in 10 Canadian voters cast their vote in support of his party).

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      When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
    15. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by harlequinn · · Score: 1

      That's a big claim.

      Please provide some of those measures.

    16. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by harlequinn · · Score: 1

      "I moved to Canada to escape the DMCA laws in the US"

      So, how's that working out for you?

    17. Re: Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's electoral districts are decided in a non partisan way and generally look squareish.
      Parties live and die and there are multiple parties. Parliamentary rules are not based around assuming there are two parties.
      The us system was setup with a much smaller population, it scales poorly....800,000 people to a representive these days.
      Etc. etc. There are many more examples

    18. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by fred6666 · · Score: 1
    19. Re: Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They kept telling me to love it or leave it.

    20. Re:Run for Parliment, get law overturned. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out the Free State Project where thousands have moved for freedom to New Hampshire and 10s of thousands more are working on moving for freedom. It's a migration movement of liberty activists from across the US and to some degree from around the world to New Hampshire for the purpose of forming a free state (it's harder to migrate from elsewhere, but it's the only real movement of its kind with people actually doing rather than just talking about such things). The reason this movement is working is because you don't need a lot of people to move when you focus your efforts on a (relatively speaking) low population state which leans freer already, is economically well off (ie jobs exist), inexpensive to live (hey-! less taxes means more prosperity- who ever would have thought), and your people can dominate politically because you have attracted a disproportionate # of people from your political disposition who are more likely to be actively involved in politics relative to the opposing sides (ie people who actually move aren't going to site by and do nothing whereas those who are living in an area already tend to be politically lazy and uninvolved in politics).

      There is also the Shire Society which is the same thing, but more for a free society (ie if your more prone to think the idea of a state is unethical, ie telling people they can't enter your country and using force to keep people out whom are not committing violence against you is already unlibertarian, at least for real principled libertarians). Principled libertarians (ie the sort who are moving, not the same thing as so called "libertarians") believe that there should be no laws for which there is no victim and for which there was no violence, fraud, theft, or coercion (ie one should be liable for ones actions, but until they're harming others, ie no drivers license should be mandated, but liability for hitting another driver should still exist, and we have to a limited degree that in NH where car insurance isn't mandated, even though drivers licenses are, but drivers are still liable for their mistakes).

      We're anti-intellectual property (what an ingenious deception to say you can't think or say something you've heard, it's the exact opposite of freedom/free speech and we can't have it in a truly free society), pro-property rights, pro-get-government-out-of-everything-including-marriage, pro civil rights like freedom to travel unmolested (anti-TSA,anti-boarder guards, etc), unhindered (it anti-drivers licenses, vehicular registration, etc), anti-copy"right" (it's dependent on the governments use of violence to achieve a political or social goal for which the crime includes no violence, theft, fraud, or coercion).

      http://www.freestateproject.org/
      http;//www.shiresociety.com/
      http://www.porcfest.org/ Camping festival (motel on site too) in NH run by the Free State Project that attracts thousands of people from around New Hampshire and across the US and around the world whom are interested in liberty and freedom. Most people who visit end up moving within a few years because they can for the first time see what its like to live in a free society around people who think like them.
      http://www.freekeene.com/ News covering the migration, politics in New Hampshire, liberty activism, court cases, protests, rallies, and similar. From helping to spread Bitcoin (a non-government user controlled decentralized distributed currency) to getting rid of drug decriminalization laws.
      http://www.victimlesscrimespree.com/ Derrick J's Victimless Crime Spree | 540 days in jail for dancing (a civil disobedience activists first year in NH)
      http://101reasonsfilm.com/ 101 Reasons: Liberty Lives in New Hampshire
      http://www.gunsandweed.com/ Guns and Weed – The Road To Freedom
      http://www.freetalklive.com/ The largest principle libertarian radio show in the world is run right from Keene, New Hampshire and is one of the biggest outlets and introduced a lot of people to the ideas of liberty, freedom, and moving to New Hampshire for the purpose of developing a free society.

  2. Oh crap... by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    Now my country is going down the tubes too. Corporatocracy wins again. Bastards.

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    'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
    1. Re:Oh crap... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really surprised with this one, it's a company. It's like selling copies of DVD's.

  3. Qualifications for "legitimate paths" by tepples · · Score: 2

    From the featured article:

    Of considerable concern is the court’s conclusion that the availability of a Nintendo-approved interoperability approach would be enough to eliminate the availability of the anti-circumvention interoperability exception. The court stated: "the Applicant’s evidence establishes that there are legitimate paths for developers to develop software on its consoles without circumventing the Applicant’s TPMs. There is no need for any TPM circumvention to achieve interoperability"

    Nintendo's policy during the Wii's commercial lifetime was that only a company with "relevant video game industry experience" and a dedicated office detached from any residence had such "legitimate paths". This came to a head in 2009 when Nintendo's denial of a devkit to a home-based video game studio run by programmer Robert Pelloni made the news.

    (Nintendo has since substantially loosened this policy, and Pelloni has since admitted that he should have released it on PC first.)

    1. Re:Qualifications for "legitimate paths" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pelloni has since admitted that he should have released it on PC first.

      No, he shouldn't have to. If he wants to run his own code on a device he bought and paid for, he should be able to do so without approval of the manufacturer.

      There is no need for any TPM circumvention to achieve interoperability

      Can I run my code without bypassing the TPM restrictions? No? Then it's NOT interoperable.

      Definition of interoperability 1. : ability of a system (as a weapons system) to work with or use the parts or equipment of another system

      The TPM prevents the use of the system by my code. THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT OF IT'S EXISTENCE. Nintendo in this case even admitted as such. That means it's not interoperable by definition. The court is wrong, plain and simple.

      Not only is the court wrong, but that's before you even get into the issue of needing to pay AGAIN to develop for the hardware you purchased. (Although I think Nintendo gives away the SDK now. You still can't run the code built by the SDK on an unmodified system without Nintendo's signature.)

      So now the question is: We have to pay to develop software now? We can't use our own tools? The manufacturer gets absolute veto power over anything we may produce? We have no legal authority to tell a device that has the power to get someone killed or commit a crime "No", but we have absolute culpability under the law for whatever the device does? Is this what we really want for our society?

      Apparently the court's answers are: Yes. Yes. YES. You bet your ass. Yes.

      My answers are: No. No. NO. NO. Mother******* HELL NO.

    2. Re:Qualifications for "legitimate paths" by tepples · · Score: 1

      We have to pay to develop software now? We can't use our own tools?

      That's been true since iOS 2. In addition to a device on which to test, you have to buy a Mac (in addition to whatever other brand of computer you might already own) and a $99 per year certificate once you're ready to publish.

    3. Re:Qualifications for "legitimate paths" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT OF IT'S EXISTENCE."

      But the point of the apostrophe is to make the contraction for it is.

  4. $20K per "work"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That PDF is a piece of work... From what I can tell the total award is $12,700,00? Anyone know what they mean by "work" here?

    1. Re:$20K per "work"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oops. Missed the $60K for the Header Data "works". That would be a total of $12,760,000.00

    2. Re:$20K per "work"? by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      That PDF is a piece of work... From what I can tell the total award is $12,700,00? Anyone know what they mean by "work" here?

      Slashdot say "Court Awards Massive Damages" and then completely fails to say what was awarded. Careful there, AC. I think this might be part of slashdot's "RTFA DRM", and your post may be considered circumvention measures.

  5. Infringement of *actual* property rights by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What we have here is where Nintendo (and the dumbasses who signed this idiocy into law) are claiming that Nintendo's temporary monopoly on its idea is somehow so important that it usurps the owner of the computer's right to modify his own property. I dunno about how Canadians feel about it, but for those of us south of the 49th parallel, our justification of government was based in part on John Locke's principle of "life, liberty and property" (which got changed to "pursuit of happiness" in the Declaration of Independence, but it still counts!). The right to own property is inalienable, but this copyright run amok turns that principle on its head in some kind of bizarro-world feudal dystopia. That tyranny must not stand!

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    "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    1. Re:Infringement of *actual* property rights by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

      Agreed. And, I believe my fellow Canadians who are aware of this law agree for the mostpart as well.

      We have a Liberal government at the moment, and they may be amenable to fixing the law. I've already written my MP about it, and hope others will as well.

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      A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
    2. Re:Infringement of *actual* property rights by dryeo · · Score: 1

      While we don't feel quite as strongly about property rights as Americans, it is still bloody important. Really the problem with this law and that it was argued in the Federal Court is the fact that Section 92(13) of the Constitutional Act, 1867 gives "13. Property and Civil Rights in the Province." so why the hell did the Federal government pass this law. It's seems not to be criminal,which is enforced by the Provinces anyways, might be covered under the commerce clause, which is different and weaker then the American version.
      Hopefully this will be appealed and struck down as it doesn't seem to be a power that the Federal government has, namely creating new forms of property that infringe on our established property and civil rights.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    3. Re:Infringement of *actual* property rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copyright Act is a federal act, hence federal prosecutors.
      Copyright Act is up for review this year - write in and let your MP know your concerns, along with whatever minister you feel is relevant.

  6. No good by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Are games really worth all the legal bullshit? I think they're not. I'm also beginning to think no software is worth it if you have to agree to sign your rights away. If I buy a hammer at the store I don't have to sign any god damn EULA, so why should I have to if I buy a drawing program, or video editing software? Do I sign a EULA when I buy a pack of playing cards? What about Monopoly? Must I sign my rights away in order to play it? Only if it's digital!

    1. Re: No good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That hammer is a commodity, buy some exotic tool and you may find that you can't, you actually have to rent or buy a franchise or something.

  7. Collision course with right to repair ... by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

    All those tractor manufacturers are going to use this to stop farmers repairing their own machines and will jack up the prices for repair jobs. That will be the start, next: cars, mobile 'phones, washing machines, ... anything with a CPU in it that runs code that can be 'protected' by XORing bytes with 0xFF.

    1. Re:Collision course with right to repair ... by davecb · · Score: 1

      The specific case was affected by the company being able to make a claim about "stolen games", by which they meant copyright breaches, and that gave them an excuse to claim copying, invoke the DMCA and argue the anti-circumvention clause.

      Cases in the US have narrowed the law to eliminate schemes such as DMCAing print cartriges, and we just ameded the "Combines Investigation Act" to cover similar cases: see Exclusive Dealing and Tied Selling under the Amended Combines Investigation Act

      This case tries to narrow the defenses against and widen the power of the DMCA, and needs an appeal and a good set of amicus briefs.

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      davecb@spamcop.net
  8. That's what Dems do when they move to Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Canada is the perfect homeland for disaffected Democrat Party members. After the election, all the Dems moved to Canada and immediately started implementing their agenda to destroy personal freedom. This is only one example.

    Thank God for President Trump for saving us from the overreaching nanny state of facist control freaks.

    1. Re: That's what Dems do when they move to Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't tell if you're sarcastic or an idiot, so well done. This is about increasing property rights of corporations and making sure that people who paid money for something are still beholden to corporate masters.

      If we were talking about land and farms and not video game machines the word used would be feudalism, and the business of government ensuring corporate power is fascism. Neither are liberal ideals or ideas. This is what republicans and conservatives fight to achieve--not regular people, at least not most. Those people are duped into voting for leaders with that agenda with the usual religious and 'muh freedom' propaganda.

      Btw, this isn't really about Trump. He is different, but all the corporate cretin slimeballs in Congress from Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan all the way down somehow managed to take his victory as an endorsement of the sorry job they do and the corporate kleptocracy they want to impose.

  9. And because of this .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nintendo can keep its overpriced Switch tablet.

  10. Re: Pirate Party not called the Pirate Party by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Well then, how about one called The Pirate-Ninja-Zombie Party? www.facebook.com/groups/545267922328106/ Though on a more serious note, I did put more thought into it thsn that, but couldn't determine if there might be someone who wouldn't mind creating a Democratic-Republican-Whig psrtu Facebook group with me. If someone is interested, they can contact me at https://www.facebook.com/hackw... or go it alone.

  11. Re:What it's worth by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I found that Steam prevents me from losing games from things like physical media going bad or being stolen and makes it much easier to install games on new machines, and this is enough to tolerate their little DRM game.

  12. Boycott Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God forbid that I play homebrew games on a machine that I own! Nintendo has every right to tell me not to play a free game which has no relation to Nintendo's copyrights!

    Oh wait...BOYCOTT NINTENDO.

    1. Re:Boycott Nintendo by tepples · · Score: 1

      I wonder why people even went through the hassle of running homebrew on a Wii console instead of just using a TV as a PC monitor. True, many during the Wii's commercial era (2006 to 2012) had an SDTV, but back then, I used a $40 scan converter like one of these to turn a PC's VGA out into composite or S-Video.

    2. Re:Boycott Nintendo by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I for one did it because the Wii was small and quiet and had interesting input devices, and the PC was big and goofy and didn't. You could use the ones from the Wii, and a lot of people have, but that only rams home the point really.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    3. Re:Boycott Nintendo by tepples · · Score: 1

      Laptops are also relatively "small and quiet".

    4. Re:Boycott Nintendo by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Laptops are also relatively "small and quiet".

      At the time, small and quiet laptops had garbage graphics, often even being incapable of high-resolution output due to limited video memory. So if you're going to have all that, why not a Wii? It had interesting input devices. It had interesting games, actually, if you're a Zelda fan anyway. It was cheap. 480p was good enough for the kinds of games Nintendo wanted to make, and I had a good time playing some of them. If you are going to have the thing around, and it's feasible to make it run homebrew, why not? The original Xbox is arguably a better platform for that, but it's also bigger and noisier.

      I ripped my Wii out of the entertainment system recently in preparation to be rid of it, because I haven't turned it on in ages. But it was cool in its time. Now you can do all that stuff on an Android stick.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  13. Shameful by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

    Shameful ruling on a shameful law. :(

    I, as a Canadian, will write my MP, and I encourage others to do the same.

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    A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
    1. Re:Shameful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suggest that you move to the United States. Unlike Canada, America iis the land of freedom. Heck, just over the border you have Vermont. You can buy any gun you want without restriction. Put it in your pocket, strap it on your hip, strut about. No problem. We can hack our games with impunity here, no one cares. You can call a rag head a rag head, hey no problemo, chief! In Canada any cop can stop you without reason and demand "papers, please!". Not here in the USA. Plus half our country has a mild and amenable climate. Come on in, the water's fine!

    2. Re:Shameful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your America went away a long time ago...

    3. Re:Shameful by harlequinn · · Score: 1

      He's telling you how America is (and I'm pretty sure all his claims about the USA are verifiable).

  14. Just some Harper era insanity that needs repealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's all this ridiculousness is. I'd personally be happy (and I know I'm not alone) to see every single law that got passed when that government was in power get rescinded.

  15. In other words the court had figured out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the rules actually were until you ass was hauled there.
    How are you to know if you live under loose or restrictive.
    Thats like always bull shit.

  16. How to make money not a good product now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    POS game console that everyone throws in the trash. then wait for others to make pos usable sue get rich.
    Thanks law maker for only thinking of your pockets.

  17. FPTP screws you over by Dagger2 · · Score: 2

    Canada uses first past the post voting, which makes it very difficult to set a new party up. If you try, you end up splitting the vote with whichever of the two main parties most closely aligns with you, which leads to the other main party being more likely to win -- as a result most people won't vote for you, even when they support you more than either of the two leading parties.

    "Set up a new party" would be rather a lot viable if that was fixed... but good lucking getting FPTP replaced by anything else.

    1. Re:FPTP screws you over by alexo · · Score: 1

      There was an attempt to introduce a "mixed member proportional" voting system in Ontario.
      A referendum was held in 2007. The attempt flopped.
      See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      I would offer that Canada's last two majority governments (Harper's and Justin Trudeau's) were effectively a 1-man dictatorships, with the prime minister able to pass or block any law he wishes due to his control of the party that controls the parliament.

  18. Here is why they lost by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    The problem isn't the mod chip per-se. If you read the ruling it shows that they were providing instructions for how to modify the headers of dumped ROMs so that they could play them. They basically were selling the chip as a way to clone games. What we have seen in the US courts is that, if you provide a service that permits copyright infringement, you have to show that you were actively policing the system to prevent that from happening. But if you basically sell something as "Hey look here, you can download free stuff off the internet here!" then you lose.

    In bygone days, I had a modded Nintendo DS, and the homebrew community was very active. There was hardly another device like the DS at the time. Is the Wii homebrew community just as active? Or are the mod chips really just being used for piracy? It seems like there is really nothing special about a Wii that makes it a good target for homebrew development.

    1. Re:Here is why they lost by tepples · · Score: 1

      It seems like there is really nothing special about a Wii that makes it a good target for homebrew development.

      I asked a similar question. Let me summarize the reply I got and other articles I've written about the topic (1 2 3). In no particular order:

      1. Wii had SDTV out and PC didn't, which was important in the mid-2000s when the largest monitor in a home was likely to be standard definition.
      2. Wii is smaller and quieter than a typical tower PC.
      3. Wii plus the Super Smash Bros. Brawl disc and SD card to launch Smash Stack was cheaper than a typical PC.
      4. The pointing device bundled with a Wii could be used from a couch; the one that came with a desktop PC required a desk.
      5. Lower latency audio API by default.
      6. Many don't want to have to lug the family PC back and forth between the computer desk and the living room, as if you were going to a LAN party every day, or to tie it up while a game is being played.
      7. Predictability of hardware capability eases evaluation of a program's system requirements.

  19. Re: Pirate Party not called the Pirate Party by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    I've been thinking of setting up a Nazi party, because people sometimes call me a nazi due to my attention to detail and willingness to maintain order and sense. The party would have nothing to do with national socialists, right wing extremists etc. as it would be all about logic and reason. We would base our decisions on science rather than semi-religious feelgood arguments, which seem to be common in politics.

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    Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  20. Re:What it's worth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found that Steam ... makes it much easier to install games on new machines

    Really? How so? Steam isn't going to clean up your Windows/Linux/OSX installation to make space for your new game. It isn't going to upgrade your RAM or video card. AFAICT it doesn't do anything for you that you don't already have to do for yourself, with the possible exception of letting you know that there is a new version of your video card drivers available - which other 3rd party tools also do for you.

  21. Of all the companies to care... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nintendo? Most of their current systems can be modded with an SD card and 10 minutes reading...