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IBM Will Sell 50-Qubit Universal Quantum Computer In the Next Few Years (arstechnica.co.uk)

Months after laying the groundwork for offerings in emerging tech categories such as artificial intelligence and blockchain, IBM sees quantum computers as a big, if nascent, business opportunity. From a report on ArsTechnica: IBM will build and sell commercial 50-qubit universal quantum computers, dubbed IBM Q, "in the next few years." No word on pricing just yet, but I wouldn't expect much change from $15 million -- the cost of a non-universal D-Wave quantum computer. In other news, IBM has also opened up an API (sample code available on Github) that gives developers easier access to the five-qubit quantum computer currently connected to the IBM cloud. Later in the year, IBM will release a full SDK, further simplifying the process of building quantum software. You can't actually do much useful computation with five qubits, mind you, but fortunately IBM also has news there: the company's quantum simulator can now simulate up to 20 qubits. The idea is that developers should start thinking about potential 20-qubit quantum scenarios now, so they're ready to be deployed when IBM builds the actual hardware.

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  1. Hmmm. by olsmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

    I really want to buy one but at the same time I don't.

    1. Re:Hmmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Schrodinger's decision

    2. Re:Hmmm. by tomhath · · Score: 2

      I'd ask if you want one right now, but you'd probably change your mind

    3. Re:Hmmm. by billybob2001 · · Score: 2

      You appear to be in a super position.

    4. Re:Hmmm. by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      I'd ask if you want one right now, but you'd probably change your mind

      The fact that you've observed him wanting one means that the result is now in a fixed position.

    5. Re:Hmmm. by slew · · Score: 2

      I really want to buy one but at the same time I don't.

      Maybe if you don't look at your credit card bill, you can stay in a superposition of 1/2 bought, 1/2 resisted for a while, but as soon as you look, your world will collapse... Or maybe the decision is entangled with your spouse in which case your spouse can spontaneously collapse that decision for you...

    6. Re: Hmmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe not. Wtf are any of us going to do with these gimmick machines? Lol.

    7. Re: Hmmm. by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      Right, don't believe the spin.

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    8. Re:Hmmm. by monkeyzoo · · Score: 2

      Yikes! It's starting to happen fast.
      In terms of being prudent about encryption, what could one start to do now to prepare for the coming quantum computers?

      I'm not certain, but I believe the elliptic curve algorithms are supposed to be quantum computer resistant, right?
      Specifically, what kind solutions would enable these kinds of algorithms in tools like TrueCrypt (for local encryption) and PGP (for message exchange)?
      I have large amounts of data stored in both formats in cloud backups that I would like to make sure doesn't get snapshotted and trivially decrypted in a few years.

  2. "Will" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always in any sentence with "Quantum computing".

    1. Re:"Will" by Shimbo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think we can reasonably be sure that IBM will deliver on time; just not necessarily in this universe.

    2. Re:"Will" by Rei · · Score: 1

      I expect quantum computing would be like battery improvements: something people continue to complain about being hype, even while at the same time it migrates into their everyday lives without them noticing. I mainly expect that should quantum computing chips make their way into consumer processors, your average programmer would never touch them - but backend system library calls that they make would increasingly use them without the frontend developer ever being aware.

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    3. Re:"Will" by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Yeah let's get pissed off that advanced tech, requiring that many non-trivial problems are solved, isn't already here and already old hat. You've just pointed out that we don't already have QC. Well done.

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    4. Re:"Will" by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      The article doesn't say who they'll deliver it to.

      What exactly will it be useful for? Factoring 50-bit numbers? Any ideas?

      $15 million seems an awful lot of money just for bragging rights. It'd better come in a really pretty box so people can put it in the lobby when they get bored with it.

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    5. Re:"Will" by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >The article doesn't say who they'll deliver it to.
      >What exactly will it be useful for? Factoring 50-bit numbers? Any ideas?
      >$15 million seems an awful lot of money just for bragging rights. It'd better come in a really pretty box so people can put it in the lobby when they get bored with it.

      If it's a general computer then yes. You could implement Shor's algorithm for factoring, Grover's algorithm for inverting mappings (to find keys). There are a handful of non crypto related algorithms for things like simulated annealing.

      What no quantum computer to date has done and what a 50 bit quantum computer for $15,000,000 will not do is compute anything that can't be computed more cheaply or efficiently on a traditional computer.

      I remain a skeptic that quantum computers can scale up to useful sizes. The rest of the universe wants to bring that low entropy state back into line with the rest of reality and it has succeeded every time so far.

         

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    6. Re:"Will" by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      I expect quantum computing would be like battery improvements: something people continue to complain about being hype, even while at the same time it migrates into their everyday lives without them noticing. I mainly expect that should quantum computing chips make their way into consumer processors, your average programmer would never touch them - but backend system library calls that they make would increasingly use them without the frontend developer ever being aware.

      Given that the quantum computer requires super-cooling, it's highly unlikely that it's going to migrate into our lives any time soon...

      "In order to function as a quantum computer, it has to be super-cooled at all times. The system sits at the bottom of refrigeration system where the temperature is roughly 0.015 degrees above absolute zero."

      http://mashable.com/2016/05/04...

    7. Re:"Will" by jimbo · · Score: 2

      Any CEO worth his salt will find a way to play Solitaire on it.

    8. Re:"Will" by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I thought Qbits was a fancy term for the # of cats involved. My bad.

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    9. Re:"Will" by RoccamOccam · · Score: 1
      Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you ... The Internet!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    10. Re: "Will" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you can still push the reset button with your finger but.... it ain't coming back out attached to your hand.

    11. Re:"Will" by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      Nop, it's actually the currency we'll be using when the cylons are chasing us across the universe while we look for the lost colonies.

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    12. Re:"Will" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought Qbits was a fancy term for the # of cats involved. My bad.

      No, Qbits are what you get after you smash QBert with a big hammer.

    13. Re:"Will" by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      No, Qbits are what you get after you smash QBert with a big hammer.

      @!#?@!

    14. Re: "Will" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have some combined cryo and vacuum systems about the size of a small office microwave oven, and they aren't that new. As more condensed matter research is being done at small labs and for student projects, there has been quite a push to make small, self contained units for low temperature work. As a result, there are some newer units the size of a PC tower now.

    15. Re: "Will" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My fingers don't have a but!

  3. FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


    Please, anyone, care to explain why should we care?

    In the next 20-50 years when quantum computing is commonplace, what mundane, regular Joe Schmo life things will this help with?

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    1. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is unlikely that most people will see quantum computers in their day to day lives. But one will see the many improvements that they give. For example, there's strong reasons to think that quantum computers will make doing chemistry simulations easier, resulting in more new interesting things in different contexts, including medicines. For similar reasons, one expects that quantum computers will make it easier to design better classical computers.

    2. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by Rei · · Score: 1

      Its hard to say, because you can't directly translate conventional algorithms to quantum ones, and it's hard to say what processes will readily find a home in quantum computing vs. which ones won't. But if quantum chips were "commonplace", you can bet that any CPU intensive tasks today (graphics, neutral nets, physics simulation, etc) would seek to find ways to offload as much effort to quantum algorithms as possible, where they can be found. Some tasks, such as searching unordered datasets or doing Foureir transforms for image / sound compression, already have fast quantum algorithms.

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    3. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please get off of Slashdot if you don't care about cutting edge technology. You embarrass me and the rest of the nerds on the site.

    4. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      One wonders if we'll have someday have a quantum accelerator card sitting next to the graphics card in our workstations.

    5. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will finally make sure once and for all that only Windows can be booted on your machine.

    6. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

      It is unlikely that most people will see quantum computers in their day to day lives.

      Was it not one of the IBM's bosses who once claimed that the computer world market would consist of four or five computers? Or DEC's Ken Olsen who averred that nobody had the need to have a computer at home? Or Bill Gates who asserted (allegedly, probably just an urban legend) that nobody would ever need more than 640 KB RAM? It is next to impossible imagining a quantum computer in one's pocket, but people in the 60s would have laughed if told about the devices that currently hold in our pockets.

    7. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by gtall · · Score: 1

      Getting rid of the rest of IBM's U.S. employees?

    8. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      For that price it'd better have a REALLY pretty box.

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    9. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by sl3xd · · Score: 1

      We're talking about IBM. Look elsewhere for pretty boxes.

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    10. Re:FTLOG -WHY SHOULD WE CARE? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 1

      Sure, it is possible that these will turn out to be useful and cheap enough to be common devices in the home. My comment was what was likely. And if that does happen, it will be very far off (just as there were about 40 years between that IBM remark and when personal computers were a thing). In order for quantum computers to be common enough for personal use, two things need to happen: first, the computers will need to be small and cheap enough that they can be in fit in the home attached to a classical computer; one might imagine something like a special quantum processor for the processes that take advantage of it. Second, and this is really important: we would need algorithms that the quantum computer can use to do things that are common that a classical computer does slower. Right now, most of the things that a quantum computer can do asymptotically better than a classical computer are highly specialized things like factoring integers that most people don't need. If we found good quantum algorithms to do things like graphical processing that might change.

  4. Quantum supremacy tests will come first by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the major issues is the need for actual empirical evidence that quantum computers can do things that classical computers cannot with reasonable time constraints. Right now, the general consensus is that if we understand correctly the laws of physics this should be the case, but there are some people who are very prominent holdouts who are convinced that quantum computing will not scale. Gil Kalai is the most prominent https://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/why-quantum-computers-cannot-work-the-movie/. It is likely that before any 50 bit quantum computer we'll have already answered this question. The most likely answer will be using boson sampling systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boson_sampling which in their simplest form give information about the behavior of photons when scattered in a simple way. Scott Aaronson and Alex Arkhipov showed that if a classical computer could efficiently duplicate boson sampling with only a small increase in time then some already existing conjectures in classical computational complexity had to be false. (In particular, the polynomial hierarchy would have to collapse and we're generally confident that isn't the case.) Boson sampling is much easier to implement than a universal quantum computer, although no one has any practical use of boson sampling at present.

    All of that said, the "a few years" in the article is critical- it isn't plausible that a 50 qubit universal system will be sold in 5 years. But 10 or 20 years are plausible. It also isn't completely clear how practically useful a 50 qubit system would be. At a few hundred qubits one is clearly in the realm of having direct practical applications, but 50 is sort of in a fuzzy range.

    1. Re:Quantum supremacy tests will come first by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      Because if I understand quantum theory correctly, it both works, and doesn't. There is no measurement for a half binary state in a binary world of absolute on and off. I think pursuing analogue supercomputers might be a better place to start.

      A more reasonable argument would be "We need more money to continue milking this quantum cow that never produces anything."

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    2. Re:Quantum supremacy tests will come first by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because if I understand quantum theory correctly, it both works, and doesn't. There is no measurement for a half binary state in a binary world of absolute on and off.

      I'm not sure what you mean by "it" here, but pretty much every interpretation of this is wrong. In fact, measurement of quantum superpositions do return specific classical states, with a probability based on the superpositions.

      I think pursuing analogue supercomputers might be a better place to start.

      We have specific theorems about what analogue classical computers can do. See for example http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0196885888900048 and https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0502072. In general, analog computers cannot do error correction and can when used to do optimization get easily stuck in local minima.

      A more reasonable argument would be "We need more money to continue milking this quantum cow that never produces anything."

      Quantum computing is still in its infancy and is best thought of as still in the basic research category. But even given that, there's been massive improvement in the last few years, both in terms of physical implementations (how many entangled qubits one can process) and in terms of understanding the broader theory. One major aspect where both the experimental and theoretical ends have seen major improvement is quantum error correction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_error_correction.

    3. Re:Quantum supremacy tests will come first by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Because if I understand quantum theory correctly, it both works, and doesn't.

      If you're talking about superposition, or decoherence, then I don't think you've understood.

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    4. Re:Quantum supremacy tests will come first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In general, analog computers cannot do error correction and can when used to do optimization get easily stuck in local minima.

      Neuromorphic computing?
      https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.0233.pdf

  5. 50 cubits? That's one big ark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Noah would be happy!

  6. But by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    But does it play Crysis?

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    1. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but only at 30 fps.

    2. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We won't know until we see it in action.

    3. Re:But by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it can't play Star Citizen.

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    4. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the game is over before your quater hits the coin bucket. (pun intended)

  7. I Imagined... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I imagined a Beowulf cluster of these things and it suddenly existed. It then went on to destroy the universe when Windows 10Q failed an update. However, on reboot, it restored the Universe to what is laughably called "its last known working state."

    1. Re:I Imagined... by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      I imagined a Beowulf cluster of these things and it suddenly existed. It then went on to destroy the universe when Windows 10Q failed an update. However, on reboot, it restored the Universe to what is laughably called "its last known working state."

      Hence Trump and Brexit!

  8. They work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the consensus was still out on when the things were actually working as quantum computers?

  9. I misread as "50 Quid Universal Quantum Computer" by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    At first I misread the headline as "50 Quid Universal Quantum Computer", but thinking about it, based on the speed of advance from Colossus to some of the cheap tablet computers there may be some people reading this who will be alive to see a £50 Universal Quantum Computer!

  10. Q Algorithms. by AlanObject · · Score: 1

    Some tasks, such as searching unordered datasets...

    I have never understood how a device with a handful (50 in this case?) computing elements can do better than, say a 10Mbyte TCAM for a task like this. You can get a TCAM like that for under $100 at the chip level. It seems that Q tech that costs $15M has a long way to go.

    A computational problem like reversing a hash key makes a lot more sense.

  11. Osborne effect by DrXym · · Score: 1

    I was all ready to buy their 5 qubit universal quantum computer. I guess I'll wait for the new model now.

  12. Idea for TV commercial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pitchman stands in front of the thing, spouting off speeds and feeds. Then a few cats enter the picture from the left. Then more cats, until there's a flood of cats until the pitchman turns his head and gets a bit rattled.

  13. Re:50 cubits? That's one big ark by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Humpty Dumpty would get pissed off though.

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  14. D-Wave accepted as real now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So is it accepted now that D-Wave is selling real (if limited) quantum computers now? Last thing I heard there was still some skepticism.

    1. Re:D-Wave accepted as real now? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 1

      This is not the D-Wave system being discussed. This is a true universal quantum computer, whereas D-Waves system uses a modified form of quantum annealing and whether it gives any fundamental speedup over classical computers is open.

    2. Re:D-Wave accepted as real now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not the D-Wave system being discussed. This is a true universal quantum computer, whereas D-Waves system uses a modified form of quantum annealing and whether it gives any fundamental speedup over classical computers is open.

      Schrödinger's D-Wave?

  15. It uses Python! by Gabest · · Score: 1

    Oh wait...
    qasm = "IBMQASM 2.0;\n\ninclude \"qelib1.inc\";\nqreg q[5];\ncreg c[5];\nu2(-4*pi/3,2*pi) q[0];\nu2(-3*pi/2,2*pi) q[0];\nu3(-pi,0,-pi) q[0];\nu3(-pi,0,-pi/2) q[0];\nu2(pi,-pi/2) q[0];\nu3(-pi,0,-pi/2) q[0];\nmeasure q -> c;\n" device = 'simulator' hots = 1 experiment = api.runExperiment(qasm, device, shots)

    1. Re:It uses Python! by nctritech · · Score: 2

      I pasted this into Bash and my computer sprouted limbs, walked out of the room, and kicked my dog square in the balls. The part about this that really has me weirded out is that I don't actually own a dog.

  16. And won't by raymorris · · Score: 3, Funny

    In a secret box IBM has a quantum computer. It' ready to ship. And it's not. They call it Computer Advanced Technology, or CAT.

  17. What are its capabilities? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What kind of problems can this particular computer solve, within a reasonable time (hours? minutes!) that would take an ordinary PC - or even a massive classic supercomputer - decades, or even millennia, to solve?

    1. Re:What are its capabilities? by quonset · · Score: 2, Informative

      From my perspective, simulations. For example, a simulation showing the motion of water molecules when water is boiled. Not the current version where we have an approximation of the molecules as they are heated, but a simulation where each and every molecule and its motion within the mass is calculated and shown.

      How about tensile or compression strength of solids? Again, instead of an "object" being depicted we could depict how steel is deformed at the molecular level, including how impurities or additives affect its strength.

      Wave motions (who knows, maybe the gun as well), atmospheric currents, ocean currents, stress and sound in a moving car/truck, how sub-atomic particles react to each including calculating the various forces at that level, and the list goes on. I'm not even scratching the surface of how this technology could be used.

      How about real-time holographic images? Someone stands in front of the camera in New York giving their presentation and people around the world can see that person standing in their room as if that person was with them in real life. No elaborate set up at the receiving end, no screens or anything, just a simple projection of the person's image from a single camera (or something similar) which the receiving person can walk around as if it had all dimensions.

      Whatever you can dream up would be the only limitation.

    2. Re:What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can factor 50-bit integers in 50 clock cycles.

      (granted each clock cycle takes a century.. and no one has yet observed one completing).

    3. Re: What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the only limit is our imaginations?

      Imaginatiooooooon...imaginationnnnnnnnn, immmmmmagggggaginnnnatioooooooooon...

      And we are off to Imagination Land.

    4. Re:What are its capabilities? by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Asymmetric crypto using Diffie-Hellman. It's a problem a quantum computer can solve easily (compared to a classical one at least.) It's a big thing on the horizon in cryptography, and I wouldn't be surprised if state actors already possess the tech, or will soon. Definitely important enough to land a spot on the weapons ban list, at least.

    5. Re:What are its capabilities? by gtall · · Score: 1

      Easy, the problem of life, the universe, and everything.

    6. Re: What are its capabilities? by sl3xd · · Score: 1

      Failure of imagination is real, and can have life threatening consequences - the Apollo 1 being a prime example.

      One of the things young kids teach parents quickly: Kids haven't learned what's not possible, so they try anyway, and often succeed where their parents fail. Locks are a great example of it - kids don't 'know' locks only open if you have a key or combination, so they open the locks without either.

      The bottom line is that physical limitations are a constraint, but they're very rarely as much of a limitation as the failure of human imagination.

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    7. Re:What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How about real-time holographic images? Someone stands in front of the camera in New York giving their presentation and people around the world can see that person standing in their room as if that person was with them in real life. No elaborate set up at the receiving end, no screens or anything, just a simple projection of the person's image from a single camera (or something similar) which the receiving person can walk around as if it had all dimensions."

      You don't understand quantum mechanics if you think information can be transferred at faster than the speed of light or that anything is instantaneous. Entanglement doesn't work that way. "Entanglement" is a probabilistic result of tensor interactions within Hilbert spaces. There's no magic about it that lets you do magic things like move information faster than light. People who at a minimum don't understand hyperbolic differential equations should be precluded from talking on this subject....

      I'd address the other points too but it would not be good for my blood pressure.

    8. Re: What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      lol what is this nonsense. reasoning by analogy is for retards who want to be wrong.

    9. Re:What are its capabilities? by cryptizard · · Score: 2

      Pretty much all of your examples are pure bullshit. Quantum computers are not magic. They are just better at solving some very specific problems compared to classical computers, and as far as I am aware your examples do not fall into any of those categories.

    10. Re:What are its capabilities? by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

      Asymmetric crypto using Diffie-Hellman. It's a problem a quantum computer can solve easily (compared to a classical one at least.) It's a big thing on the horizon in cryptography, and I wouldn't be surprised if state actors already possess the tech, or will soon. Definitely important enough to land a spot on the weapons ban list, at least.

      I wouldn't be surprised if state actors are pushing quantum crypto nonsense to scare people into abandoning actually secure systems.

      Thus far nobody knows if scalable quantum computers are even practically possible let alone any clue how to go about creating one.

    11. Re:What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From my perspective, simulations. For example, a simulation showing the motion of water molecules when water is boiled. Not the current version where we have an approximation of the molecules as they are heated, but a simulation where each and every molecule and its motion within the mass is calculated and shown.

      How about tensile or compression strength of solids? Again, instead of an "object" being depicted we could depict how steel is deformed at the molecular level, including how impurities or additives affect its strength.

      Whatever you can dream up would be the only limitation.

      You have an overactive imagination. I am not an expert but I know enough to confidently say that there is not a single quantum computing expert who would agree with what you are saying.

    12. Re:What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      42

    13. Re:What are its capabilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > How about real-time holographic images? Someone stands in front of the camera in New York giving their presentation and people around the world can see that person standing in their room as if that person was with them in real life. No elaborate set up at the receiving end, no screens or anything, just a simple projection of the person's image from a single camera (or something similar) which the receiving person can walk around as if it had all dimensions.

      And she will be a impossibly leggy, green-haired loli with a leek and she will say: Konnichiwa Minna-san, I'm Hatsune Miku, nice to meet you! On occasion of the opening ceremony, let me perform the Tokyo 2020 Summer Games' offical theme song "Olympiapro" for you.

      An alternative future would be the russians coming with their vodka-powered battle tanks and balls-on-wires handheld calculators, to crush the decadent and perverted post-industrial capitalist civilization and re-juvenate it. Probably the better option, especially if their tanks are manned by anime girls, too...

  18. But, will it run Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it run Arch for the nerdiest of all nerds?

  19. Does it come with... by neoRUR · · Score: 1

    A Cat? or 50 Cats?

  20. Vaporware by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    Yea right and 2017 is the year of a working 100 MW compact fusion reactor prototype from Lockheed Martin.

    IBM will not have a 50 qubit quantum computer in the next few years using a definition of the word "few" anyone recognizes.

    1. Re:Vaporware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just bought, from a dollar store, a laser.
      Right there on the case with the other safety info it says:
      "1 MW"

      For only a Dollar!
      We live in amazing times, my friend.

    2. Re: Vaporware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's right, that's not vaporware, that's vaporizeware.

  21. Why? by jsepeta · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't they focus on making the virtual Q-bits as good as possible, then sell Q-bit computing as a service?

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  22. Re:50 cubits? That's one big ark by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Noah's computer, the Ark (TM), was 300 cubits by 50 cubits by 30 cubits. IBM is so far behind.

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  25. ECC isn't resistant, Truecrypt (AES) is, PGP isn't by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Elliptic curve isn't particularly resistant to quantum attacks. It's actually less resistant than good old RSA, given currently popular key sizes for each. If much larger (and slower) keys were used, ECC might survive the first few years of practical quantum computers.

    The category of algorithms you use with Truecrypt isn't vulnerable to quantum attacks, as far as we know. Those are symmetric key algorithms, where the same key is used to encrypt and decrypt. AES is the currently recommended symmetric cipher.

    I say "as far as we know" they aren't vulnerable because every few years another algorithm gets cracked. We can't be sure which ones will be cracked in the next five years or ten years. We do know some have been used a long time without ever being cracked in the past. We also know that with classical computers, algorithms are normally half cracked years before they are fully cracked - so we get a warning a a few years ahead of time. A new crack using a new kind of computer in clever way might completely defeat any given encryption in one step, though.

    What *is* known to be subject to quantum attacks are public key algorithms, where you have a public key and a private key, a pair. These are used for PGP/GPG, TLS, and other instances in which two people need to communicate securely. Quantum-resistant public key algorithms may include the Stehleâ"Steinfeld variant of NTRU. McEliece signature using random Goppa codes hasn't been broken in 30 years, so it looks like a contender. There are many approaches which are likely quantum-resistant. Over the next few years cryptographers with advanced degrees in mathematics will analyze the options and probably come to a rough consensus about which two algorithms are best to adopt next.

    Because there will undoubtedly be some suprises once clever people start actually using quantum computers in unexpected ways, it might be prudent to use some sort of belt-and-suspenders approach rather than assuming that one particular algorithm will survive the next 20 years or so.

  26. Moore's law - nine years to a thousand cubits by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > I have never understood how a device with a handful (50 in this case?) computing elements can do better

    A thousand cubits can do some really interesting things. If cubits follow Moore's law and double every two years, a thousand cubits is nine years away.

    Another nine years would be a million cubits. A million-cubit quantum computer may change our lives much as the classical CPU has done.

  27. Re:ECC isn't resistant, Truecrypt (AES) is, PGP is by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

    Ahh. Thank you!

    You jogged my memory... I forgot that only asymmetric algorithms are particularly at risk with quantum computers.
    Good news for my TrueCrypt FDE (well, VeraCrypt now). =)

    Can you give an example what you mean by belt and suspenders approach?

  28. Basically wrapping one algorithm in another by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > Can you give an example what you mean by belt and suspenders approach?

    Essentially I mean wrapping one algorithm within another, such that cracking it requires cracking BOTH algorithms.

    I don't know which algorithms we'll be using 10 years from now, but for sake of illustration let's pretend it's good old Diffie-Hellman. For the moment, we'll pretend we think DH is quantum resistant. With DH, each party sends their modulus in the clear. Because you can't solve the discrete logarithm problem, knowing the modulus doesn't let you compute the key. Suppose, however, that a clever person might figure out how to use quantum computers to solve the discrete logarithm and therefore crack DH (we're pretending we didn't expect that). What we can do is instead of sending the modulus in the clear, send it via some other algorithm Y() from an unrelated family. In that way, if the attacker cracks DH generally, that does them no good because the essential part of the DH exchange is invisible to them, protected by Y(). Cracking Y(), it does them no good - that only gets them the computed modulus that was originally intended to be sent in the clear anyway.

    Another approach that does basically the same thing would be:
    1) Use asymmetric algorithm A() to compute symmetric key ka, as normal.

    2) Use asymmetric algorithm B() to compute symmetric key ba, as normal.

    3) Use ka xor kb as the actual symmetric key.

    Once again the attacker can succeed only by cracking both algorithms A() *and* B().

    One should be cautious when combining algorithms; in some cases the combination is weaker than either algorithm alone. For example, md5(sha1(plain)) is weaker than either md5(plain) or sha1(plain). One shouldn't combine algorithms willy-nilly without understanding the consequences, but if done carefully you can guarantee that the combination is stronger than either algorithm alone. (For example, concatenating sha1(plain) with md5(plain) is stronger than either sha1 or md5 - but also results in a hash much longer than either algorithm does alone.)

  29. Combining two unrelated algorithms by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > Can you give an example what you mean by belt and suspenders approach?

    Essentially I mean wrapping one algorithm within another, such that cracking it requires cracking BOTH algorithms.

    I don't know which algorithms we'll be using 10 years from now, but for sake of illustration let's pretend it's good old Diffie-Hellman. For the moment, we'll pretend we think DH is quantum resistant. With DH, each party sends their modulus in the clear. Because you can't solve the discrete logarithm problem, knowing the modulus doesn't let you compute the key. Suppose, however, that a clever person might figure out how to use quantum computers to solve the discrete logarithm and therefore crack DH (we're pretending we didn't expect that). What we can do is instead of sending the modulus in the clear, send it via some other algorithm Y() from an unrelated family. In that way, if the attacker cracks DH generally, that does them no good because the essential part of the DH exchange is invisible to them, protected by Y(). Cracking Y(), it does them no good - that only gets them the computed modulus that was originally intended to be sent in the clear anyway.

    Another approach that does basically the same thing would be:
    1) Use asymmetric algorithm A() to compute symmetric key ka, as normal.

    2) Use asymmetric algorithm B() to compute symmetric key ba, as normal.

    3) Use ka xor kb as the actual symmetric key.

    Once again the attacker can succeed only by cracking both algorithms A() *and* B().

    One should be cautious when combining algorithms; in some cases the combination is weaker than either algorithm alone. For example, md5(sha1(plain)) is weaker than either md5(plain) or sha1(plain). One shouldn't combine algorithms willy-nilly without understanding the consequences, but if done carefully you can guarantee that the combination is stronger than either algorithm alone. (For example, concatenating sha1(plain) with md5(plain) is stronger than either sha1 or md5 - but also results in a hash much longer than either algorithm does alone.)

    Of course, it would also be a mistake to combine two *related* algorithms. XORing keys exchanged by two algorithms which both provably depend on discrete logarithm doesn't make it much stronger - if they can solve discrete log, they can crack both algorithms. One would need to combine two unrelated algorithms which depend on different hard peoblems as their primitives.

    In case you're wondering, yes, I do security for a living. :)