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IBM To Hire 2,000 More Veterans, Expand Tech Training Schools (axios.com)

Ina Fried, reporting for Axios: IBM CEO Ginni Rometty is among the tech leaders meeting Friday with President Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Axios has learned. They'll discuss worker training. And IBM will announce plans to: Open 20 more of its P-TECH schools, which let students get a combined high school degree and associate degree in science and technology in as little as four and a half years. Hire 2,000 U.S. military veterans over the next four years and expand a program that trains and certifies veterans in the use of the type of IBM software often used by law enforcement, cybersecurity and national security agencies.

32 comments

  1. What wars does India have vets from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are they hiring people who fought in Kashmir against Pakistan? Or maybe they are hiring Pakistanis who crossed into Afghanistan to fight for the Taliban? Can't think of any other armed conflicts in South Asia.

    1. Re:What wars does India have vets from? by rfengr · · Score: 1

      TFA says Germany, so it's probably ISIS vets they'll be hiring.

    2. Re:What wars does India have vets from? by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      Are they hiring people who fought in Kashmir against Pakistan? ...

      Maybe IBM's hiring Gurkhas. They defeated a much stronger Imperial Japanese force armed only with keyboards.

    3. Re:What wars does India have vets from? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      The Indian War on the US IT industry . . . ?

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  2. Ginni is a quick learner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She's starting to do the same things that Trump's been doing over the past year and a half.

  3. IBM to discriminate against 2,000 students by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

    IBM to practice discriminatory hiring practices against 2,000 students over 4 years in a bid to reduce the likelihood of qualified college graduates receiving degrees. Inflation of the supply market for degree students and subsequent downward pressure on salaries to save billions over the next decade. Landlords gearing up for the Evict College Students To House More Veterans Credit.

    1. Re:IBM to discriminate against 2,000 students by gtall · · Score: 1

      That's not the real problem, the real problem is that moronic companies like IBM think science and technology is all there is to education. Yes, let's produce a crop of unidimensional idiots who cannot tell their ass from a hole in the ground, but can measure both.

  4. What does it matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They will all be replaced by H1-B workers.

  5. Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm proud IBM is working to increase the number of our military veterans who will lose their jobs to H1B replacements in violation of the law within the next few years.

  6. that's funny (ironic) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see several IBM-ers on my LinkedIn saying they were recently laid off.

    1. Re:that's funny (ironic) by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I see several IBM-ers on my LinkedIn saying they were recently laid off.

      I had an in-law who got laid off as a full time employee and then got rehired as a consultant by IBM, making more money and working fewer hours than before.

    2. Re:that's funny (ironic) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too old to work again, never made rockstar money, might as well kill themselves now.

      Captcha: mortally

    3. Re:that's funny (ironic) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You tell a lot of tall tales, troll.

    4. Re:that's funny (ironic) by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You tell a lot of tall tales [...]

      Not a tall tale. Then again, this is the same in-law who bought a five-bedroom house for $1M in the Gilroy foothills (30 miles south of Silicon Valley) that had a 20-foot tall wire fence to keep the mountain lions out of the backyard.

      [...] troll.

      Thank you for your confession, as I only troll trolls on Slashdot.

  7. Re:War Protesters FOAD by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    [...] but now(!) is also too old to work in tech.

    Define "too old" to work in tech?

    I'm 47 and work in government IT. Most of my coworkers are in their 60's and 70's. As long as Microsoft products exist in the enterprise space, no one is retiring soon.

  8. Training the robot repairmen? by ErichTheRed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I guess I don't see how this will help domestic employment. In my world of IT, the next big thing is cloud/DevOps stuff and managing thousands of servers via automation. IBM barely makes hardware these days -- they do mainframes, storage and POWER systems. The only thing I can think of that would provide immediate military employment is maintaining Watson or whatever, watching over data that requires a security clearance.

    IBM is basically rebranding itself as a "cognitive" Accenture/Wipro clone with an AI system, so what will all these graduates of the P-TECH schools actually do? Are they just going to add a few token US employees to their offshore outsourcing operations? Teach them to fly around the country in identical suits giving PowerPoint presentations to executives? I'd love to see domestic job growth in tech, but this seems like a PR stunt.

    1. Re:Training the robot repairmen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess I don't see how this will help domestic employment.

      It seems like there's always some story or other about Company X hiring more of some group Y that is somehow more deserving of having a job than everyone else. Maybe the group is a "disadvantaged" gender or minority - black women but not asian men. Or maybe the group has supposedly done great service to others - politicians or members of some religion.

      But what I always end up wondering is why we can't all have decent jobs? The world economy is now sufficiently efficient and technologically advanced to produce enough material goods for everyone on the planet to have simple comfortable lives. And there's an essentially infinite amount of real meaningful work that desperately needs doing - requiring a whole variety of different skills and training levels - everything from curing cancer to keeping our streets safe at night.

      A priori, I don't see why it has to be a zero sum game. And there are countries in the world, such as Denmark, where essentially no one is trapped in poverty. Forget try to figure out who's more and less deserving. Just try to figure out what Denmark is doing right and start doing it ourselves. :)

    2. Re:Training the robot repairmen? by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      I guess I don't see how this will help domestic employment. In my world of IT, the next big thing is cloud/DevOps stuff and managing thousands of servers via automation............its called quantom computing and has nothing to do with domestic workers, it does have everything to do with seriously intelligent people...you have to think out of the box and its not stuff, its called enterprise security.

  9. Re:War Protesters FOAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Masturbating to granny porn in your basement while you live off government disability checks. Cool story bro.

  10. Re:War Protesters FOAD by jandersen · · Score: 1

    Define "too old" to work in tech?

    Too old to work in tech: aka Dead

  11. Let me see... by slew · · Score: 2

    So, now IBM wants to get into the diploma mill business too... I guess the transformation is complete.

    1. Re:Let me see... by GeekCrumbs · · Score: 1

      They always were ;-) But now that they've burnt their leadership role in engineering, they realize it's one of the few profit centers left.

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  12. Veterans of what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Indian Army?

    The Republican Guard?

  13. Cheap way to hire people with security clearance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Though, given IBM's hiring and firing practices, hiring people with PTSD and who know how to use guns could be beneficial overall ;)

  14. Best choice? by Dareth · · Score: 1

    "let students get a combined high school degree and associate degree in science and technology in as little as four and a half years"

    Will these students have any transferable credits to continue their education into a bachelor or greater degree?

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  15. yay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just what we need; more incompetent old people in tech who just want to blow shit up.

  16. IBM helped the Nazis, big time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not many people know that

    1. Re:IBM helped the Nazis, big time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who doesn't know that? They helped Hitler do the census that recorded who was Jewish or not.

    2. Re: IBM helped the Nazis, big time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, by hiring veterans, they are still helping nationalistic jingoistic die hard statists.

      Why else hire Veterans with no computer skillz and train them, when there is an ocean of out of work IT people out there... since... well... for the last 20 years.

      I saw this locally in action when the local military based trained a woman who was a truck driver in the military to be a computer networking tech. This woman was clueless; I had 30 years experience and couldn't get a job locally.

      Tons of cybersecurity IT jobs right down the road from me, working from the NSA, but (1) you need a Top Secret Clearance, and (2) you have to be willing to sell out humanity to the state. It will be a cold day in hell before I sold out humanity and worked for the state.

  17. Stop-loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... law enforcement, cyber-security and national security agencies.

    I imagine a good number of ex-military go into law enforcement but I think this is an attempt to keep those with an 'attack' mentality in government by re-purposing them to do essentially the same thing in a civilian job, if they're smart enough to understand computers.

  18. DeVry are too picky by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Yes, but they'll only be accepted by Trump-U.

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