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Manatee No Longer An Endangered Species (miamiherald.com)

An anonymous reader quotes the Miami Herald: The manatee -- for decades the poster mammal for environmental decline in Florida -- is officially no longer an endangered species. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced Thursday that the manatee will instead be designated "threatened" -- a status change that reflects a boom in population over the last decade. In February, Florida wildlife managers released preliminary results of an annual count that recorded 6,620 manatees lumbering in the warm waters of Florida's lagoons, springs and canals... "We believe this is a devastating blow to manatees," Patrick Rose, Executive Director for Save the Manatee Club, said in a statement. "A federal reclassification at this time will seriously undermine the chances of securing the manatee's long- term survival."
It was the third consecutive year to see an increase in the estimated population of manatees.

89 comments

  1. Manatee for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't care.

    Doesn't matter.

    1. Re:Manatee for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, you aren't far from it, AC. As evidenced from the entire Slashdot staff being comprised of manatees which arrange "idea balls" to come up with headlines, they have really crept in to every crevice and orifice on the planet.

    2. Re:Manatee for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manatee? You're giving BeauHD an awful lot of credit. There's another derogatory term that is better fitting and also starts with an "M" and refers to ungrounded crybabies who live in their mothers' basements and go to their liberal arts colleges in their free time and confine themselves to hopscotch squares they call "safe spaces."

    3. Re:Manatee for nerds by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about, nerds love mermaids!

    4. Re:Manatee for nerds by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      the entire Slashdot staff being comprised of manatees which arrange "idea balls" to come up with headlines

      I didn't even realize that Cowboy Neal was still around!

  2. Oh the huge manatee by rsilvergun · · Score: 0

    increase in population. Seriously though, is this just the new administration's doing? It seems to me a single boom in population isn't enough to base a change in classification on. It's a little coincidental this happened shortly after the guard changed.

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    1. Re:Oh the huge manatee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Everyone thought Donald was after the Muslims and Mexicans, but it was just a ruse to distract the American people from the fact that his #1 political agenda is to kill off those fat fuck manatees. Don't tell anyone, but I have also seen drafts of executive orders that will effectively end fire ants, parakeets, and rainy days.

    2. Re: Oh the huge manatee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they already eat eachother!

    3. Re:Oh the huge manatee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Considering that they published a twelve month finding on the proposal to reclassify at the beginning of 2016, no, it probably can't be blamed on the Trump administration.

    4. Re:Oh the huge manatee by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If DT can effectively end fire ants, I will personally kiss the ring.

    5. Re:Oh the huge manatee by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      No! Not rainy days! Laying in bed screwing around on a rainy day is heaven on earth. Don't take that away. Fire ants? Please wipe them out.

    6. Re:Oh the huge manatee by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      Quit trying to confuse the issue with facts. We know The Donald was behind this!

    7. Re:Oh the huge manatee by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      increase in population. Seriously though, is this just the new administration's doing?

      Trump's policies on climate change should help the manatees. They benefit from warmer temperatures, and will be able to expand their range northward.

    8. Re:Oh the huge manatee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ban all boats with propellors. That will stop a lot of Manatees from getting injured.

      But they won't. Dumb Floridians don't care about their environment. As long as there are no 'gators' on their lawn they don't give a damm.

    9. Re:Oh the huge manatee by brianerst · · Score: 2

      The reclassification proposal came on January 7, 2017 - before Trump was inaugurated. This is the Obama US Fish and Wildlife Administration's proposal, not Trump's. It simply was approved now.

      This took two seconds to Google. Not everything in the world needs to be seen through the lens of Trump.

    10. Re:Oh the huge manatee by NaCh0 · · Score: 1

      That's why President Trump got my vote.

      Anything that looks like Rosie O'Donnell needs to be removed from existence.

    11. Re:Oh the huge manatee by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      You're forgetting the #1 rule of politics for anybody is off of the deep end:

      If the guy you didn't vote for is in office, then suddenly the country sucks now and everything is his fault.

      Meanwhile nobody else really gives a fuck.

    12. Re:Oh the huge manatee by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Anyone who thought manatees were endangered hasn't been to Florida in the past 40 years. They're everywhere!

    13. Re:Oh the huge manatee by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Agreed. 45's administration is setting out to commit so much willful evil that it makes no sense to "blame" this on his administration. If they arrived at this conclusion based on previous policies and guidelines that the population growth is such that the species is not in any danger of going extinct it is rather silly to "blame" 45 for this reclassification.

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  3. Patrick by BinBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > a status change that reflects a boom in population over the last decade.
    > "We believe this is a devastating blow to manatees," Patrick Rose, Executive Director for Save the Manatee Club, said in a statement.

    Patrick sounds like a really fun guy -- always looking at the positive side of things.

    1. Re: Patrick by Nidi62 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think Patruck is more worried about what reclassification would do to the longterm survival of his cushy Executive Director job at the Save the Manatees Club than he is the survival of the manatees.

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    2. Re:Patrick by mellon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is that just a couple of years ago manatees were dying off in large numbers—there were losses in some years of something like 30% of the total population, as a result of unusually cold waters. The current population peak coincides with a period of unusually warm water following El Niño. It's possible with global warming that that temperature trend will continue, but by no means guaranteed. So taking them off the endangered species list is premature. A population of 6000 is not exactly huge.

    3. Re:Patrick by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Patrick's club looks like a pretty slick operation.. Guess with the beasts no longer on the Endangered Species List he'll prolly sell a lot less Manatee Merch. Sounds like this may be a devastating blow to his income as well... Wait, you don't suppose that's why he's so upset, do you...? Nah, couldn't be...

    4. Re:Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes.

      This is why they were moved the the Threatened list and off the Endangered list.

      They were not moved to the Yummy Please Eat As Many As You Want list.

      Yet another reason to celebrate global warming: the manatees are saved! I never understood why the pro-cold-planet people have been trying to kill off the manatees for decades. They're harmless.

    5. Re: Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's enough that soon they'll come in land and take our jobs, so we have to start killing them again.

    6. Re:Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      And what about Patrick's "devastating blow to manatees" comment.
      It is very hard to deliver a blow of any magnitude to a manatee because they're in the water. And they're covered with fat so your fist just sinks in.
      Sometimes when I'm boating and see one of those fat fucks floating around, I get so pissed off I jump on it with both feet. They don't even turn to look at me.
      "Devasting blow" my ass. I bet he's never even tried to punch a manatee in the face. It's almost a waste of time.

    7. Re:Patrick by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      > a status change that reflects a boom in population over the last decade.
      > "We believe this is a devastating blow to manatees," Patrick Rose, Executive Director for Save the Manatee Club, said in a statement

      According to Patrick, no matter what happens to the manatee population, it's a bad thing, lol.

      Population shrinks = Bad Thing.
      Population stays the same = Bad Thing.
      Population grows = Bad Thing.

      The only solution is to wipe them all out so we don't have to worry about them.

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    8. Re: Patrick by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yeah because environmental protection is where the big money is.

    9. Re: Patrick by brianerst · · Score: 5, Informative

      His salary was $86,192 in 2014. Patrick is effectively the entire administrative expense of the Save the Manatee Club (9.9% of the budget is taken up by administrative expenses, 7.13% of the budget is Patrick's salary). There are 8 additional "staff" positions - they seem to be a combination of volunteers or are compensated under "fund raising" or "program" expenses.

      I'd say this is probably his major source of income. It's a small organization (around $1.4M) and seems to do good work, but its income flow is entirely dependent on donors that are concerned about the status of the manatee.

    10. Re: Patrick by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      No he's just saying it's too early to pull them off the endangered list.

    11. Re: Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Patruck is more worried about what reclassification would do to the longterm survival of his cushy Executive Director job at the Save the Manatees Club than he is the survival of the manatees.

      Got to keep that environmental activist industrial complex well funded.

    12. Re:Patrick by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Because environmentalists can NEVER see the bright side of anything.

      Uncompromising, humorless: the left.

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    13. Re: Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That, sir, makes you a Progressive!

    14. Re: Patrick by ChrisMaple · · Score: 0

      How much could these 9 people produce if they had real jobs?
      Well, how much could the 8 produce? Patrick Rose is obviously a waste of protoplasm.

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    15. Re:Patrick by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      They're harmless.

      I wouldn't say that -- just how many more family guy episodes do we need?

    16. Re:Patrick by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      You know way too much about blowing aquatic mammals.

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    17. Re:Patrick by jittles · · Score: 1

      Patrick's club looks like a pretty slick operation.. Guess with the beasts no longer on the Endangered Species List he'll prolly sell a lot less Manatee Merch. Sounds like this may be a devastating blow to his income as well... Wait, you don't suppose that's why he's so upset, do you...? Nah, couldn't be...

      They're still on the Endangered Species List, they're just changing categories on that list. Whether that change will affect the bottom line of his charity, who can say? But it may change the criminal penalties involved for people who mess with manatees (I am no expert on the subject, I could be wrong).

    18. Re: Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For making a joke?

      What, are conservatives lacking in a sense of humor now?

  4. I'm sure Twitler will claim credit for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And then carry right on dismantling all the environmental protections we had in place.

  5. "a devastating blow to manatees" by cirby · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, a devastating blow to people who have invested their entire lives in telling people that manatees are dying off.

    Look, it's fine. We know about them, we figured out how not to kill them by accident.

    You did a good thing.

    Now, it's time to scale back the fearmongering just a bit.

    1. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      While I'm a strong supporter for saving endangered species, there hopefully comes a point when any endangered species isn't endangered anymore. It takes time and resources to protect endangered species, and when you can call your job a success and strike one off the list as done, you do so in order to direct your resources at the next needy species. There's only so much to go around, and you need to put it where it will do the most good.

      If lowering their protection now results in a significant decline, they'll get their name back on the list. But until then, there are many more in need of that assistance.

      And to the gentleman that's upset about the lift and says there aren't enough of them, I ask you, how many is enough? Can you put a number on it? Do you even have a number in mind? The EPA etc have entire divisions of bean counters whose job is to run the numbers and calculate the risks when deciding where to spend their money and dedicate their resources - they're not just pulling this one out of a hat. You can count on this decision being the result of examining the numbers closely, and that beats any activist's armchair-quarterbacking on the issue.

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    2. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, it's really not. Do you live in Florida? Because you can sit down and shut the fuck up otherwise. The restrictions here are common sense and rarely, if EVER, cause problems for anyone other than dickheads who like to mess with wildlife.

    3. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by cirby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I do live in Florida.

      And I do support the common sense restrictions on things like speedboats in areas where manatees live, and laws keeping people from annoying them.

      You can stop talking now.

    4. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fearmongering is still necessary for the sake of manatees and other protected wildlife like sea turtles. Mostly, the issue is not cruel individuals trying to haze or murder wildlife, but rather the unfortunate fact that Florida is filled with, among some otherwise responsible populations of humans, ignorant morons, who besides generating most of the news coming from the Sunshine State, also fuck shit up for everyone, constantly. They don't mean to, but it is still their fault, and the only disincentive that seems to work are draconian protections of wildlife.

    5. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is eco-terror organizations need these sort of high-profile cases (manatees, jap whaling, white seals, etc.) to build up their ranks and their bank accounts from emotional leftists. With these resources, they can accomplish the better part of their work, which is low-profile and doesn't bring in a dollar like investigate environmental costs of clothing, toxic dumping in rivers, and so on.

    6. Re: "a devastating blow to manatees" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? You clearly don't believe in evolution. Speciation and extinction events happen. That's okay. Not good is fucking up the environment to have extinction events grossly outnumbering speciation events.

    7. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, a devastating blow to people who have invested their entire lives in telling people that manatees are dying off.

      Look, it's fine. We know about them, we figured out how not to kill them by accident.

      You did a good thing.

      Now, it's time to scale back the fearmongering just a bit.

      Good. Now lets scale up that sentiment to include the EPA.

    8. Re:"a devastating blow to manatees" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Florida, the manatees will still have some protection from laws such as the Florida Manatee Sanctuary Act.

      Manatees have been threatened by boat strikes, but more recently the risks have changed to include red tide, entanglement (especially from monofilament), unusually cold water, and harassment. Those threats have only increased over the last 10 years.

      The fear in delisting them is that some future change will push them into the "critically endangered" realm more rapidly than the reclassification process can handle.

  6. April 20th International Leftwing Slap-off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Commies, socialists, progtards or antifa - if you see 'em, slap 'em! Let's set a global record for leftist butt-hurt!

  7. I probably shouldn't say this by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 5, Funny

    But does this mean I can have a manatee steak now?

    They're often referred to as sea cows.

    I love steak and I love seafood. Maybe this would be the perfect meal.

    I'm glad they're off the endangered species list though. This is good news whether or not it means I can every eat one. I don't expect to see it on a menu anytime soon. They are cool creatures.

    1. Re: I probably shouldn't say this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No muscle, just blubber :(

  8. Yo mama is still endangered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's up with my brain wiring?

  9. I misread this at first as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Managers ..."

  10. Caveat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There's a boom in the population, now that Larry has learned French and Barbara will have him. The problem is that the boom consists of a manatee-cucumber mix and it's not yet clear whether it's a new species. That depends on a ruling from the religious council. The lift from endangered status was made assuming the council would say no.

  11. manatee reproduce too slowly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was curious about that, and looked into it for a day. Manatees reproduce too slowly to be viable. Cattle which take two years to grow up are considered too slow by the beef industry. Heck, beef is facing competition from chicken, which get fried at age 35 days. There is increasing competition from fish, which produce a ton of eggs.

    1. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Fish have the highest feed to meat ratio. That's where the money is at. More fish meat per pound of food. Read some of the innovative ways they grow Tilapia.

    2. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by tomhath · · Score: 2

      You'll never eat tilapia again if you find out what they feed it.

    3. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by Hartree · · Score: 3, Funny

      "There is increasing competition from fish, which produce a ton of eggs."

      Yeah, but how many fish eggs would I have to crack for an omelet?

    4. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Tilapia is one of my least favorite fish. It always tastes dirty to me.

    5. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You'll never eat tilapia again if you find out what they feed it.

      What, ground up chicken and insects? The chicken is weird, I'd prefer they avoid that. But insects are good sources of protein. Oh, you mean Tilapia from China. You buy food from China? What kind of nutcase are you? Enjoy your melamine!

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    6. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Well the frozen Tilapia can be from anywhere. Fresh is most likely from somewhere in this hemisphere.

    7. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Well the frozen Tilapia can be from anywhere. Fresh is most likely from somewhere in this hemisphere.

      They can be from anywhere, but I have yet to see a bag of frozen tilapia which didn't say where they came from, and if I did, I would assume they came from China and I wouldn't buy it.

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    8. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I don't eat any frozen fish unless I caught and froze them myself.

    9. Re:manatee reproduce too slowly by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I don't eat any frozen fish unless I caught and froze them myself.

      It's okay, I only eat artisanal frozen fish.

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  12. Save the Manitee club! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Some editorial correction...
    "We believe this is a devastating blow to Save The Manatees Club," Patrick Rose, Executive Director for Save the Manatee Club, said in a statement. "A federal reclassification at this time will seriously undermine the chances of securing funding for the manatee club's long- term survival."

  13. "Estimated" population by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure this means much of anything. Different method of counting, different estimate outcome.
    Regardless, even if their numbers have quadrupled from ~1500 to ~6000 that still seems barely sufficient minimum viable population against development and impending climate change, especially given their restricted habitat.

    1. Re: "Estimated" population by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe that no one has asked Wendell what he thinks of this.

      For those that don't know I'm talking about, he's the CFO of CorreiaTech.

    2. Re:"Estimated" population by tomhath · · Score: 1

      that still seems barely sufficient minimum viable population against development and impending climate change

      Which is why they're still listed as "threatened".

  14. Awww... Pwetious witwe manatee snowlakes... by denzacar · · Score: 0

    ...got thewe witwe fewengs huwt...

    Chill out dudes. Trump won. Enjoy!
    Go the beach. Have a few beers. Drive around chanting "TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!"
    Just don't forget your "Not a manatee - a Trump supporter making America great again!" laminated poster.

    And your MAGA cap. Skin cancer and sun strokes are a REAL thing, whether you believe in science or not.
    We wouldn't want you to get any of those and be forced to use any of that nasty Obama's care now would we?

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  15. Job Security by Shoten · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actual quote:
    "We believe this is a devastating blow to manatees," Patrick Rose, Executive Director for Save the Manatee Club, said in a statement. "A federal reclassification at this time will seriously undermine the chances of securing the manatee's long- term survival."

    Translated for clarity and accuracy:
    "We believe this is a devastating blow to my career," Patrick Rose, Executive Director for Save the Manatee Club, said in a statement. "A federal reclassification at this time will seriously undermine my chances of maintaining long-term employment."

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  16. April Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the most ridiculous April Fools story yet!

  17. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No the only endangered species are Progressives who self identify as "victims". Eventually their histrionics will be the end of them. The rest of us will roll along in life just fine.

  18. Why not listen to the experts? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    So taking them off the endangered species list is premature. A population of 6000 is not exactly huge.

    Perhaps not but perhaps it is worth relying on the experts who actually have some experience in managing endangered species and who have actually done the population studies rather than relying on a gut reaction that a population of 6,000 is too small? That is not how science is done and it's not like the experts have a vested interest in seeing the manatees die off. In fact I would argue they are strongly motivated to have them remain as endangered since they are going to look really incompetent if they have to put them back on the endangered list in a few years time.

    1. Re:Why not listen to the experts? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Well, everybody agrees a population of 6000 is too small.

      They didn't get delisted, they got their classification changed from "endangered" to "threatened." They're still "on the endangered species list," because that list has a bunch of different classifications, and "threatened" is still one of the ones that receives protections.

      It just means that instead of being right on the brink of extinction, now they still needing help for their longterm survival.

      There were only "a few hundred" at one point, and the population has been steadily rising. So it is clear that they're going extinct in the short term.

  19. Good News Everyone by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    The Manatees are rebounding! People Eating Tasty Animals approves!

  20. Re:Hmmm by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    It's spring. The snowflakes are melting.

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  21. Fi. Na. Lee! by ichthus · · Score: 1

    Mmmm. I've been waiting for years to get me some sea cow burgers. It's about burger-flippin' time!

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    1. Re:Fi. Na. Lee! by n329619 · · Score: 1

      "We don't serve sea cow burgers. You insensitive clod!"

      Regards,
      The Manatee

  22. 2016 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You misread that. January 7, 2016. It was before the primaries. And as I pointed out above, that was at the end of a 12 month finding period on the proposal.

  23. Wondering....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it now legal to take a ride on manatee..............?

  24. Manatee population grows while activists whine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I blame this catastrophe on global warming. Obviously if it was not for the dramatic increase in temperatures over the past 18 years, the growth in population, and thereby the reclassification would not have occurred. No rise in temperatures? Then what is the cause? Perhaps measures taken to protect the manatee have worked. Is that a case to bemoan?

  25. Oh thank goodness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obligatory:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpcf_qD3GW4

  26. Manatee Recipes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how would one go about preparing a manatee for consumption?

    Do you grill, smoke, bake, fry, sautee? Or maybe more like put it on a spit over a fire? Or wrap it in banana leaves and bury it in the coals?

    This question needs answers soon! I've been waiting for this day!

  27. Do sea cows fart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As much as dairy cows?

  28. Identity politics joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is because more people self identify as Manatee-kin

  29. Won't someone please think of the snowflakes!!! by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Awww... Does a little snowflake need a safe space from the big bad internet making fun of its manatee-like figure?
    Or is the little snowflake still sore from all the "winning" in its life?

    .

    There.
    That's the worlds smallest string orchestra playing Mozart for all the precious little whining snowflake manatees out there.
    If you put your ear to the monitor you can almost hear it.

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