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Amazon Looks to Hire 30,000 Part-Time Employees in US (fortune.com)

Amazon's hiring spree is in full force. From a report: The online retailer on Thursday announced plans to hire 30,000 part-time workers in the U.S. over the next year, including 5,000 positions that will allow employees to work from home as customer service representatives. Amazon's incoming part-time employees will work 20 or more hours and receive benefits. About 25,000 of the positions Amazon has floated will work in the company's sorting and fulfillment centers, a nod to the company's plans to boost the number of logistics facilities across the U.S. in the coming years. According to Amazon, all of its part-time workers are eligible for a Career Choice program that pre-pays 95 percent of an employee's tuition if he or she is working in fields that Amazon says are "in demand."

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  1. In other news by ranton · · Score: 2

    Amazon Looks to Hire 30,000 Part-Time Employees in US

    In other news, 300,000 US customer service workers lose their jobs because of competition with Amazon. But I'm sure our economy will create new and better jobs for them, so this is good news for them.

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    1. Re:In other news by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      In other news, 300,000 US customer service workers lose their jobs because of competition with Amazon.

      Maybe the government should pay them to break windows to generate jobs for glaziers.

    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glaziers yes Trump has jobs for them. Trump's Wall will have bulletproof windows so the Mexicans will be able to look in and see Trumpland and its glory.

    3. Re:In other news by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> Maybe the government should pay them to break windows [wikipedia.org] to generate jobs for glaziers.

      Or, we could create an easy-entry, revolving-door justice system to generate jobs for prison guards, social workers, attorneys, etc.

    4. Re:In other news by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Maybe the government should pay them to break windows to generate jobs for glaziers.

      Trump is working on that one.

      http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/CoverStory-Blitt-Trump-Golf-1200x630-1490910856.jpg

    5. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Maybe the government should pay them to break windows to generate jobs for glaziers."

      I know you were being facetious, but that's actually not a bad idea. If the private economy cannot provide enough work, maybe it's time for the government to be the employer of last resort. It would give the people who still insist on believing in the Protestant work ethic comfort that their tax dollars are going towards work instead of direct payments to unemployed people.

      No solution to this problem of automation breaking the cycle of work, wages and consumption will be accepted by most people if it involves just giving up and giving people money to live on. Look at how much money people save for retirement with their earnings -- no one is going to let people off the hook of having to show up somewhere, do a job and get paid for it to survive.

    6. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the private economy cannot provide enough work, maybe it's time for the government to be the employer of last resort.

      The federal government was the employer of last resort during The New Deal of 1935-1943 when the Works Progress Administration existed.

      Still waiting for that New New Deal to Make America Great Again. Any time now.

    7. Re:In other news by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      "I have the best job-creating chaos! Nobody knows chaos better than me. I'm a Yuuuuge fan of chaos. Beautiful plentiful chaos. There will be so much job-creating chaos that people will be screaming, Don, stop the jobs, stop the jobs, too many. Make America Chaotic Again!"

    8. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes I wonder what would actually happen if all countries just said f*** it and allowed free trade and free immigration (so long as you dont have a criminal record etc) anywhere?

      One of the things I hated about New Zealand is you're basically stuck in that shitty remote part of the world with its shitty economy for your whole life. Had an opportunity to get the hell out of there and never looked back.

    9. Re:In other news by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      No solution to this problem of automation breaking the cycle of work, wages and consumption ...

      Except that "this problem" doesn't actually exist. Automation is slowing down as service jobs are proving much harder to automate than the manufacturing jobs that are mostly already gone.

      The real problem in our economy is the opposite: poor productivity growth because of low levels of automation adoption.

    10. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other other news they could probably hire 10,000 full time employees and give them benefits, and they might even be as productive as 30K part-time employees. Who knows, we won't get a chance to find out.

      And in still other other news, I saw a post on FB – because an acquaintance liked it – about a company in Wheeling, WV that's desperate (emphasis mine) to hire people. When asked what the pay was the the answer came back: $10-$15 an hour with assistance for benefits.

      I don't know about you, but if the company is only offering $10-15 per hour they might not know the definition of desperate. (And I don't even know what kind of work this is.)

      And FFS, this is capitalism and free markets. If nobody is applying for your jobs at $15/hour, or if all you're getting are the dregs of society, that should tell you something. I hope those managers didn't pay much for their shiny MBAs – their diplomas don't seem to be worth the paper they were printed on!

    11. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was called the 1950s.

      Don't go bowling with strange dwarves in the Catskills, Rip.

    12. Re: In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn. Can we try a new joke? So played out...

    13. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Maybe the government should pay them to break windows [wikipedia.org] to generate jobs for glaziers.

      Or, we could create an easy-entry, revolving-door justice system to generate jobs for prison guards, social workers, attorneys, etc.

      Your idea is a force multiplier so it is doubly good. Let's do.

    14. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes I wonder what would actually happen if all countries just said f*** it and allowed free trade and free immigration (so long as you dont have a criminal record etc) anywhere?

      People from poor countries would migrate to wealthier countries causing a collapse of the wealthier country's economy because of the burden imposed by the massive population surge without jobs. No thank you.

    15. Re: In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Progressives have been trying the same joke for the last 80 years. Not funny then, still not funny now.

    16. Re:In other news by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Right.

      Let's hire people to dig ditches.

      And then hire other people to fill in those ditches.

      Think of how many jobs we would create.

      Great idea

      /sarc

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    17. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, its probably a step too far.

      It would be nice if at least the western countries in the commonwealth club actually acted like it. Sure Aus and NZ are pretty reciprocal, basically no border for citizens of either country, just need a passport and a plane ticket. UK or Canada, same head of state, many similar things in our cultures, we made to feel like we're part of the same club when it suits, wanna stay a while? No thanks, you might as well be as foreign as someone from the most foreign place you can think of.

    18. Re: In other news by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      It's fake news that my jokes are bad. I make the best jokes and everybody knows it. Rasmussen polls confirm it! And I have the most mod points, which shows I know humor. You are a low-energy slashdotter with no mod points. Good people tell me you hacked your way into here after Commander Taco tossed your loser ass out for such low ratings. You're not even a real user and your body language shows it.

    19. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the (2-year old) article:

      At the higher end of the salary spectrum, we still don't have robot doctors who can treat patients in lieu of costly and inconvenient human ones

      Oh no? IBM thinks otherwise. So to the manufacturers of robotic surgeons whose abilities were on display on Reddit the other day.

      The 2015 Economic Report of the President calculated that if productivity growth had continued at its 1948–1973 pace for the past 40 years, the average household's income would be $30,000 higher today.

      Except that in actual fact the post-inflation income of households has been dropping for the last 30 years. And nothing was said about "productivity shrinkage, just :insufficient" growth.

      This is a nice article with lots of charts and graphs and I'm not patient enough to sort through it all and try and figure out why it's at odds with virtually every other report on productivity and technology out there. Although I'm not sure I saw anything there that factored in the transition from a primarily 1-male family household income to a 2-income-required household with women as co-wage earners.

      And while we all know the statistical value of a sample size of 1, I can assure you that as a creator of new kinds of automation, I'm not lacking for clientèle.

    20. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you wouldn't want to just give them money. After all, if people don't work for their money, they'd just sit around drinking and smoking pot all day. Worse, occasionally one of them might write a series of popular children's fantasy novels, become billionariis and actually pay their taxes! What would the government do with all that money? Someone might want to give it to people with no jobs!

    21. Re:In other news by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Sometimes I wonder what would actually happen if all countries just said f*** it and allowed free trade and free immigration (so long as you dont have a criminal record etc) anywhere?

      People from poor countries would migrate to wealthier countries causing a collapse of the wealthier country's economy because of the burden imposed by the massive population surge without jobs. No thank you.

      If that were true, then Appalachia would be totally depopulated by now. You can find plenty of wealthier places in the USA without encountering any immigration or trade barriers at all.

      Sure, places like Detroit and West Virginia have been losing population slowly because there's no money to be made there. But an awful lot of people have also remained right where they were and would continue to do so until there was either no way to live there anymore or they died.

      Ripping up one's roots and moving isn't something that most people would like to do unless they have no choice. The rootlessness of the post-WWII American Middle Class isn't typical of most times and cultures. And even there, you don't see mass migrations.

    22. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking too local.
      How many Somalis will want to come. (almost all)
      How many shit-holes in the world do you think are worse off than Appalachia? You're forgetting just about everyone in America is a 1%er compared to the rest of the world.

  2. Part time, not full time by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are doing this to cut their expenses. I understand why small businesses might need to do it, but close this loophole for big ultraprofitable megacorps like Amazon. Also quit allowing them to stash their profits overseas and avoid paying tax. This should be a bipartisan effort, and any politician opposed to it should be voted out of office.

    1. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No healthcare matching, no retirement. Just a job.

    2. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so good with the reading are you...

    3. Re: Part time, not full time by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      How the fuck does someone budget for cancer treatment? Some people get it twice, three times, some people need treatment for the rest of their lives. That is just one common ailment. Do you have $5 million budgeted in?

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    4. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People do contribute to their 401K. Employers typically don't match if you're part time.

    5. Re: Part time, not full time by ranton · · Score: 1

      You want something like retirement and healthcare, budget and pay for it like an adult instead of working looking for a nanny. We'd have much less of a mess if that was done across the board.

      Our tax code provides additional benefit to those who have these forms of benefits from their employers. You probably cannot deduct as much of your insurance premiums as your employer can, especially since you probably don't itemize deductions if you work for a low paying job which doesn't offer insurance. 401k contribution limits are also over 3x as high as IRA limits, so having a 401k often makes it easier to save enough for retirement.

      My current employer didn't offer great benefits, and I was up front about asking for $8k in extra salary to cover for $5k in lost benefits (since I would pay taxes on that $8k). Most people do not have good enough bargaining power to demand that from an employer though.

      It isn't the employees' fault the tax code is set up this way. And employers who don't create benefits packages which take advantage of these programs in an effort to cut costs do their employees a great disservice.

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    6. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, I'd rather take your money through taxes thanks

    7. Re: Part time, not full time by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      No healthcare matching, no retirement. Just a job.

      There is no logical reason that either your healthcare or your pension should come from your employer.

      In Maoist China, each factory ran a school for the children of their workers. So if you changed jobs, your kids would have to switch to a different school. That was a stupid system, but asking your employer to make your healthcare decisions for you is just as stupid, and you only think it makes sense because you are used to it.

    8. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did you become a giant piece of shit? Trust fund, inheriting Daddy's money? Paul Ryan is that you?

    9. Re: Part time, not full time by bobschmagogee · · Score: 1

      You know the article says that these part time employees will receive benefits, right? Now, what benefits, I have no idea, but benefits usually mean some kind of health insurance, retirement, and the like.

    10. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Social Security was created during the last Great Depression of the previous century because telling people to "budget and pay for it like an adult instead of working" is like telling poor people to "just be rich."

      The Great Recession of this century has returned us to the old ways of the robber baron mentality. The rich deserve to get richer and the poor deserve to die. It's no surprise to me, since I've never paid into Social Security. It was going out of fashion even before the Great Recession.

      For your sake, I hope Medicare is abolished at the exact moment you discover you need it because your retirement savings got embezzled by financial fraudsters. And then I hope you die in horrible pain of an easily curable disease. You deserve it.

    11. Re: Part time, not full time by sexconker · · Score: 0

      Maybe he's like me - sick of seeing nearly half of his paycheck disappear before it gets to him.

    12. Re: Part time, not full time by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      People do contribute to their 401K. Employers typically don't match if you're part time.

      I've found part time or a job not seen as lasting till one is 65, a 401A is the best approach.

      You pay the taxes on any monies contributed but you pay no taxes when cashing it in or any pentilities for early withdrawal.

      You also won't get two people to agree on what a 401A really is either, but the above is true.

    13. Re:Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ultraprofitable megacorps like Amazon

      Amazon has hardly ever made money.

    14. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It cost to live in a society. Pay the price or move. Nice exaggeration though.

    15. Re:Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What big loophole are you talking about exactly? Somehow you got modded up by making unsubstantiated slights. The Slashdot Goosestep is alive and well.

    16. Re:Part time, not full time by Tharkkun · · Score: 0

      They are doing this to cut their expenses. I understand why small businesses might need to do it, but close this loophole for big ultraprofitable megacorps like Amazon. Also quit allowing them to stash their profits overseas and avoid paying tax. This should be a bipartisan effort, and any politician opposed to it should be voted out of office.

      Or...they don't have to pay for health insurance for part time employees. So they cut expenses by offering double the part time jobs in their rotation. They opened a warehouse a few miles from where I live and they only hire part time.

    17. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, I'd like to budget and pay for things that cost $10,000 on a salary of $2,000. How is that supposed to work, O Math Whiz?

    18. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want something like retirement and healthcare, budget and pay for it like an adult instead of working looking for a nanny. We'd have much less of a mess if that was done across the board.

      The free makeret has ruined that as, now you get charged more for the same procedures if you don't have teh correct insurance insurance (the insurance companies negotiate discounts and doctors inflate the base price accordingly) and the cost of insurance is inflated because your employer usually pays most of it and prices have risen to where the portion you pay after than is what the market will bare.

    19. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yup i use the IRA loop hole currently so when i retire i can be exempt from the minimal dispersement clause and still keep money tax free.

      its good to be rich enough to enjoy some loopholes.

    20. Re: Part time, not full time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like japan?

  3. Wow! Part time employees! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way to go, Amazon!

    Not that if you were hiring 30,000 part timers you couldn't afford to hire 10,000-15,000 full timers instead or anything, eh?

    This is NOT good news.

  4. Not really that big of news. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    announced plans to hire 30,000 part-time workers in the U.S. over the next year, including 5,000 positions that will allow employees to work from home as customer service representatives. Amazon's incoming part-time employees will work 20 or more hours and receive benefits. About 25,000 of the positions Amazon has floated will work in the company's sorting and fulfillment centers...

    So they're only hiring 5K work-from-home CS positions, the rest of these are just an expansion of their horrible warehouse positions. Aren't they always taking applications for those jobs?

    1. Re:Not really that big of news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually they have new datacenters constantly being built around the world. I work in one of them - we have half the staff we need and an expectation of doubling (or more) the number of datacenters etc that we have, so there's plenty of work for intelligent people.

      I'm guessing you've never applied for one of the jobs at Amazon or bothered to check out the PLETHORA of listings at jobs.amazon.com

      Fucking typical - the world of the internet at your fingers and you'd rather talk out of your ass than spend 5 minutes seeing if you're actually correct (hint: you're not)

  5. sucks by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    Hey I agree that part time jobs are better than no jobs but they are no match for full time.

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  6. Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by ErichTheRed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sears actually put in a financial statement a couple weeks ago that they don't feel confident they're going to make it. Macy's is on the way out as well. This is a shift I never thought I'd see and it seems to be happening at an extremely fast pace. Given how bad the reports are on how Amazon is as an employer, I'm assuming they're just preparing to hire a bunch of desperate people suddenly thrown out of their jobs and willing to take anything.

    I guess it's OK that they're hiring 30,000 part-timers, but the reality is that people who have gone beyond the college or high school student phase of their lives need full time work with benefits. Also, a lot of these jobs are probably in their "fulfillment centers" where people are working like robots in warehouses, while Amazon figures out how to replace them with actual robots.

    No matter how many gig economy jobs you string together, nothing is going to make life easy for a family whose workers are only working part time and have no benefits. It's like we haven't learned anything in the last 100 years since the Gilded Age was put to bed. This rapidly accelerating destruction of retail is probably just the first wave of what will be an extended period of massive unemployment. We had better figure out something for all these people to do quickly, or give them a basic income and call it a day. Otherwise the guillotines are going to make a comeback...

    1. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >> Otherwise the guillotines are going to make a comeback...

      You don't think Trump's election over the Marie Antoinette of our time was a shot across that bow?

    2. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, until everyone figures out that he had no intention on following through with most of his promises. Look at all the unemployed coal miners he promised he'd put back to work, along with just about every other blue collar worker who voted for him.

      It might take a little while longer and things will have to get worse, but when people are desperate and angry, that's when the torches and pitchforks come out. Think of how you'd feel if you had no marketable skills, no way to feed your family and zero hope of a comfortable future. I think that's how a lot of the voters felt this time around and they rallied around someone who told them the good times were coming back.

    3. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Financial Statements are forced to put in worst-case scenarios. It's not a prediction of what will happen, just an acknowledgement of possibilities. Surely Amazon has much the same language.

    4. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sears actually put in a financial statement a couple weeks ago that they don't feel confident they're going to make it. Macy's is on the way out as well. This is a shift I never thought I'd see and it seems to be happening at an extremely fast pace.

      You just haven't been paying attention. Sears has been dying for ten or fifteen years now. Possibly since the internet replaced the Sears catalogue.

    5. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't think Trump's election over the Marie Antoinette of our time was a shot across that bow?

      Maybe. When so many seem to be completely ignorant of the fact that Trump lost the popular vote? The fact that he managed to pull out a win in the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote just means it'll be his neck in the guillotine when everyone who voted for him finally wakes up, gets over their embarrassment at having been fooled, and realizes that he isn't going to deliver on his promises, and never intended to in the first place.

      The irony in that is just delicious...

    6. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Sears actually put in a financial statement a couple weeks ago that they don't feel confident they're going to make it. Macy's is on the way out as well. This is a shift I never thought I'd see and it seems to be happening at an extremely fast pace.

      While I can't speak to Macy's - Sears has been dying for a very long time, since the early 90's at least. (Long story short, as retail trends have shifted - Sears has been coasting on reputation.) Amazon may have accelerated their demise, but the writing has been on the wall for decades.

    7. Re:Taking up the dead retailers' employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't think Trump's election over the Marie Antoinette of our time was a shot across that bow?

      Trump is the Marie Antoinette of our time... a born billionaire having nothing in common with those he rules over.

  7. News For Nerds? by Thelasko · · Score: 0

    These are "box thrower" positions, and not technical.

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    1. Re:News For Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Source?

      Nah, you don't have sources - you have no idea what you're talking about.

      jobs.amazon.com

  8. Re:Wow! Part time employees! by bobschmagogee · · Score: 1

    If you read the article, it also says this:

    "The 30,000 hiring spree Amazon announced on Thursday follows the company's announcement in January that it plans to hire 100,000 full-time employees by the middle of next year"

  9. Ah Yes... Ignoring the Cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand all the fury over Amazon and mega corps replacing small businesses. When IT and business people love The Cloud! AWS, cloud based computing, cloud apps that replace entire departments... We all love The Cloud. All hail The Cloud.

    It's all the same thing.

    I bet /. outsourced their computing to the cloud...

  10. No retirement? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    No healthcare matching, no retirement. Just a job.

    Pretty sure they are paying social security tax like the rest of us. How is that not retirement?

    Not to mention they could always save something to retire on...

    Why does every job have to come with extra benefits? What is wrong with people working a much more relaxed schedule, which may mean a vastly higher quality of life than a 40+ (really 60) hour a week job?

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  11. What is it with you losers and "promises"? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Maybe, until everyone figures out that he had no intention on following through with most of his promises.

    What is with you Trump-haters and promises?

    What other president has kept all, or even most of his promises? So what makes you think ANYONE expects Trump to keep all of them or will be mad at all if he does not?

    Seriously, the ONLY ones I see constantly harping about promises are the Haters, never the Trump supporters.

    Trump was elected because of who he was, and how he spoke. Trump was elected because of who Hillary was, and how SHE spoke. Not because of promises made by either the world knew were manginess and conditional.

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    1. Re:What is it with you losers and "promises"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, until everyone figures out that he had no intention on following through with most of his promises.

      What is with you Trump-haters and promises?

      All us Twitler haters, it isn't about the promises.

      It's about the pussy grabbing.
      And the racism.
      And the misogyny
      And the fascism.
      And the lying.
      And the cheating.
      And mocking the disabled.
      And the tax dodging
      And the draft dodging
      And the dismantling consumer and environmental protections
      And after having taunted Obama for eight years about a birth certificate, but we still haven't seen his taxes?
      And having also taunted Obama for eight years about work ethics and taking vacations, and playing fourteen rounds of golf in eight years; but so far in fourteen weeks Twitler has managed to squeeze in fourteen rounds of golf already, and will make it fifteen this weekend.

      and the list goes on...

      What is it about you Twitler lovers that you're willing to look past all that and pretend to see something to be proud of?

      But the real crux of the matter is the reality hiding behind him: Steve Bannon. Bannon is a revolutionary. He wants to dismantle America and remake it the way he wants.

      But there are 66K Americans, more than 4K more than voted for Twitler – and who also didn't vote for Bannon – who don't want the same American that he wants.

    2. Re:What is it with you losers and "promises"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love him or hate him, President Trump seems to be focused like a laser beam on fulfilling his campaign promises.

    3. Re:What is it with you losers and "promises"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love him or hate him, President Trump seems to be focused like a laser beam on fulfilling his campaign promises.

      Promises like "...and Mexico is going to pay for it."
      or "...pipelines will be built with American steel."
      or "...I'll release my taxes..."
      etc., etc.

      Yeah, tell us another one!

  12. I got that mail too. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Work from home, make 80K a month. I get those mails all the time. This time they tried to make it look like a press release from Amazon. The editors seem to have fallen for it.

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  13. It's called insurance by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    How the fuck does someone budget for cancer treatment?

    The original poster did say you save AND BUY INSURANCE like an adult.

    Something really expensive is exactly what insurance is for.

    Do you have $5 million budgeted in?

    Yes, because I have health insurance.

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    1. Re:It's called insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know how I know you've never had bad cancer? or been privvy to the finances of someone who has?

      If you go >12 weeks with big time chemo (3 cycles for typical solid tumor tx.. most go 4-6), good luck keeping your job - FMLA wont help you.

      If you have to cover 20% of chemo in copays to keep getting treated and stay alive, and you lose your income, good luck keeping COBRA coverage to keep your insurance going.

      Are you budgeted for that??

    2. Re:It's called insurance by narcc · · Score: 2

      The original poster did say you save AND BUY INSURANCE like an adult.

      No, no he did not. That all-caps assertion was just something you imagined.

    3. Re:It's called insurance by Tharkkun · · Score: 1

      You want something like retirement and healthcare, budget and pay for it like an adult instead of working looking for a nanny.

      The original poster did say you save AND BUY INSURANCE like an adult.

      No, no he did not. That all-caps assertion was just something you imagined.

      Or maybe it was something you failed to comprehend. It certainly seems to be implied, even though it's not explicitly stated. With such poor critical thinking skills among the masses, it's no wonder they turn to the government to be their nanny.

      It's more than 401k and health benefits you asshat. They also don't have to pay for vacation benefits, sick time, medical leave, bereavement, pregnancy, etc, etc, etc.

    4. Re:It's called insurance by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Do you have any idea what private insurance costs for a person who has had cancer and is not fortunate enough to fall under a previously existing condition clause? Also, I have heard of one instance of cancer hitting lifetime ceilings, never mind having multiple issues.

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    5. Re:It's called insurance by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Problem with you B$, just because you have insurance, does not mean, you will receive a benefit. The insurance company want so take in as much premiums as possible, pay as little cost as possible to collect those premiums and then pay out as little as possible by denial of payment, for as long as possible. A copayment is the most extreme corrupt form of denial of health cover "It must be paid before any policy benefit is payable by an insurance", company.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copayment ie you get sick, lose you job, you can not pay the copayment and they just laugh at you and say die fucker we don't have to pay one cent. Now that doesn't ever cover treating one condition as multiple conditions and demanding repeat copayments and then there is coinsurance claims and of course, temporary denial, sufficient that you die before you can claim payment for treatment and on it goes. Having insurance is meaningless in today's corrupt corporate controlled society, they might pay, it is never they will pay.

      That additional stress, does great harm to your recovery, if you even get treatment, that constant fear of termination of insurance as termination of life but in America greed is God, it says so on your money, right there on your money and that is not by accident, they are laughing at your gullibility right to your face.

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  14. Thanks Trump by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I say that sincerely.

    Other people are complaining because these are part time jobs - but if Hillary were president Amazon would be layout off 30k workers, not hiring new ones, in addition to all the traditional retail job loss that would have been accelerating even faster.

    Some jobs are better than no jobs.

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    1. Re:Thanks Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. All thanks to Trump. Now go back and take your meds now, mmmkay? Grownups are talking here.

    2. Re:Thanks Trump by Required+Snark · · Score: 1
      Wow, you can see into alternate time lines!

      If Hillary were president Amazon would be layout off 30k workers

      By the way, nice sentence structure there.

      I'm curious. Since you have this phenomenal ability to know the outcome of events that did not occur, why are you wasting your time posting on Slashdot? Since truth is stranger then fiction, you should be taking note of fantastic events in lots of other time lines and turning them into movies scripts, comics, fiction, etc. You could be rich and famous!

      Heck, you should be writing for Fox News right now. Since they have been worldwide leaders in what is now termed "fake news", you could write news stories that didn't happen in this timeline and the Fox audience would love it.

      Sadly, you might not be able to cut working at the White House these days. Trump and his toadies have clearly departed the time line that all the rest of us are stuck in, so they are even further along then you are. You just can't compete.

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  15. Flexibility! by man_ls · · Score: 1

    This is interesting. Work-from-home CS jobs aren't a new thing, but aren't widely deployed either. It can be tough to monitor remote workers, although phone calls have a lot of good metrics associated with them that are easier than some tasks. The rest are part-time warehouse positions, which are fine for what they are, but aren't breaking new ground just expanding what they already have.

    I'd really love to see some more corporate knowledge worker roles be able to move part-time, though. I work for a good employer, my work is interesting, but I'd really just like to be at work in general a bit less. There's not a lot of market for a "freelance" project manager the same way a coder or designer might be able to pick up. I'd just like to work on half the number of projects, and take home less pay. I'd be happy to work 3 days a week for $60K and the low-tier health plan, instead of more than double that plus considerably more expensive benefits and matching etc.

  16. Re: THANKS OBAMA AND HILLARY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently you hadn't noticed, but neither of them is in office.

    Also, not sure if you'd noticed, but nothing seems to be improving much...shocking how many people think that Obamacare is different from the ACA...just daffy.

  17. for Amazon, "part time" = 80 hours a week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They work their people to death.

    1. Re:for Amazon, "part time" = 80 hours a week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, I get paid good money and while I generally work a bit of overtime a week we're usually capped at 50 hours.

      Sounds like (many others) you don't know what you're talking about.

  18. Does Amazon suck to work at? by Bodhammer · · Score: 2

    I'm getting headhunted by Amazon. Is it a good place to work or not?

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    1. Re:Does Amazon suck to work at? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Um, if you don't know Amazon's reputation in the workforce, you probably don't want to be working there. It's a meat grinder environment. If you can survive political infighting, don't mind being thrown to the wolves and you'll never know it, and want to have no other life than being an Amazon employee, go for it. If you want to work in a sane environment, for a little less money, someplace else would probably be better for you.

    2. Re:Does Amazon suck to work at? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work at Amazon and love it. Great company to work for (no shit!)

      Andrew

  19. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Obama inherited a shitshow, eight years later, it was still Bush's fault.

    Now that Trump's inherited a shitshow (the economy is so great that job growth is largely part time/contractor with no health insurance, and retailers are closing physical stores right and left)... Yep, it's Trump's fault.

    If by some miracle our economy comes out of fucktarded mode over the next few years, it'll all be due to the greater glory of whatever asshole hasn't even been elected yet in 2024.

    1. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eight years later, during which time the DOW went from 7K to 20K. Unemployment went from over 10% to under 5% (yes, all phony numbers). A year ago I drove through Louisville, Memphis, and Nashville; all of which seemed to have booming, vibrant economies compared to previous times I've been there..
      So what exactly about this economy is it that's a shitshow?
      Could it be that a bunch of high school grads who wanted a job at the steel mill or the Ford plant like their dad had can't get 'em? Because the world changes, and has changed?
      You were probably pleased when Reagan handed out tax cuts to the rich and lied to you about how those tax cuts were going to trickle down, amirite?
      Now 30 years of Trickling Down, or not, as it turned out, has caught up, and you're mad at Obama? And Hilary?
      And it certainly was the Shrub's fault that the biggest economic disaster happened on his watch. Eight years of him ignoring the writing on the wall and cutting deals for his banker friends? But more than any one person, it's all of them: Reagan, Bush, Shrub, and Republicans in general, and their tax cuts for the rich. That's what has gutted this country. Really.

  20. Make sure 15,000 of them are women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Otherwise the SJWs are going to come whining here about inequality.

  21. aaand ... back to Amazon ... by swell · · Score: 1

    This was about Amazon, wasn't it?

    Following the links, it seems they pay ~12/hour in California for laborers. No work-at-home listings were found. You might gross $1K/month. It could be a step up for an Uber driver. But there is a cost that all job hunters pay: you give up privacy big time. They can do anything they want with your data, including altering it, now and forever; here in the words of Amazon:

    "1. are acknowledging that you have read the job description for the position you are applying for and that you understand the basic requirements needed to perform the job;
    2. consent to the processing, analyzing and assessment of your personal data by Amazon, salesforce.com or any other third party for the purposes of your application and for any other legitimate purposes of Amazon. For the avoidance of doubt, the âoeprocessingâ of your personal data will include but not restricted to collecting, receiving, recording, organizing, collating, storing, updating, altering, using, disseminating, distributing, merging, linking, blocking, degrading, erasing or destroying of your personal data; and
    3. consent to Amazon retaining your personal data after the application process, in order to assist it with the effective monitoring of its job application processes and to your personal data being stored in an electronic database in the USA."

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  22. Amazon Looks to Hire 30,000 Part-Time Employees in by rickyslashdot · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm . . . OK, so it's NOT the premium job everybody dreams of - it STILL pays a (sub) standard wage, and it DOES provide some extra income - and it CAN supplement a retirement income for someone that is bored stiff.
    Get a grip - even slave-wagers can provide extra help for the terminally unemployable retired community.
    I am NOT advocating this type of employment as a general standard of living, but it DOES provide some of us (disabled, retired, bored, looking for some extra income) with a bit of extra help and a bit of challenge in our lifestyle.

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  23. Fulfillment work is being a galley slave. by Required+Snark · · Score: 1
    I know someone who ran out of other options and started working in an Amazon fulfillment center. It was brutal.

    The location was in San Bernadino California. The climate sucked. They had to work long hours with uncertain shifts, so planning life was impossible. The pay was so low that if you didn't live in the area you could not afford a motel. Renting a room was not an option because the work was irregular. People ended up trying to sleep in their cars, but the cops would drive around and roust anyone sleeping in a car. Car thievery was common when people were at work.

    Shift hours were strict, and checking in and out took a lot of time that was not paid for. A shift could have an extra two or three hours added time because of this. If you didn't show up early enough you wouldn't get clocked in on time and you could get fired. If you fell ill on the job or hurt yourself with the physical labor you had to cover it up or get fired.

    This was in the US within the last 18 months or so. Obama was in office. Guess how it will become once Trump gets his plan in place?

    Amazon adding 15,000 part time crap jobs means nothing. Amazon already directly employs over 340,000 people (world wide). They could hire this many people as a PR move and it would make no difference.

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